/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General:

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>series full of non-human girls, varied as the colors of the rainbow
>MC hooks up with a third-string human girl with zero personality

when will this shit stop?

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What is the absolute most comfy book/series you can recommend to just wrap yourself in a blanket while reading and forget the world exists?

>>9500250
Borges + DXM

The world you enter will be so comfy, you'll never escape, try though you might.

>>9500263
Not that anon but if I wished to read Borges is there any specific translation I should seek out?

Cyberpunk is gay

any recent audiobook recommendations? I noticed the unabridged version of The Terror by Dan Simmons just got released on Audible...was that any good? Hoping for something longer than 10 hours to get my money's worth...

>>9500263
The Lord of the Rings

>>9500308
I like the concepts but apparently I've heard that it hasn't had much luck as a genre which is saddening. Either it is unpopular or authors are shit at it. Maybe books just aren't the appropriate medium.

But I guess I can at least hope

>>9500456
A bit of all of those. Everything I've looked at was garbage but I've heard good things about Stand On Zanzibar. If you're looking for quality that's one place where you might have a slim chance of finding it.

There are also some cool movies around but this isn't quite the place for that.

>>9500222

I see you liked my sanzo images anon

Which books will upgrade my vocabulary level?

>>9500620
Gene Wolfe, Clark Ashton Smith, Jack Vance

>>9500197
Hmm i have an itch i want to scratch.
Book where protagonist betrays his country/faction whatever, turns to dark side so to say.
Note i dont want something like classical spy fic where protag is evil ruskie and betrays for goodie muricans. I'd much more like protag is murican and joins nazis or something.

>>9500686
Same. It's very dull to see middle of the road protagonists sacrificing everything to benefit their boring, slightly less morally perfect friends.

Dull and predictable and insufferably boyscoutish, but it's standard, because apparently readers are very thin skinned and want the protagonist to be their bestest bud.

>>9500703
You can somehow find dark fiction like prince of thorns where protag is bastard/evil but ones where protagonist starts as good and gets "seduced" to dark side (betrays goodies for baddies) are impossible to find....

>>9500301
As a long time Borges aficionado, I don't think so. Borges prose itself is fairly average, it's the stories that he tells that are so incredible - which pretty much every translation is able to capture quite well.

>>9500456
That's absolute bullshit, Cyberpunk lit is amazing, Do Androids, Neuromancer, Naked Lunch the list goes on..

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Best Space Operas?

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>>9500250
The Realm of the Elderlings series by Robin Hobb.
It might be extra comfy for me though because of how long it's been in my life.

>>9500893
I'm partial to the works of Alastair Reynolds.

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>>9500893
hey bb

Finished Red Sister.

Very anime. Very Reddit.

>>9500981
>The live of Fitz"I will fuck everything I love"Chivalry.
>Comfy.
You are a monster anon. Poor moppy fucker only knew happines a few times, and then fleeting.
>>9501260
I liked the Prince of Thornes, it was edgy shit done right.
I started the red sister but It didn't grip me (I hate vikings), what's so reddit about it?

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>>9501289
Those books helped me through my depression a long time ago thanks to the mopey antics of Fitz.
He had a nice bitter sweet end though I guess.

>>9501289
What do vikings have to do with Red Sister?

>>9501289
>>9501322
Does he mean "Red Country" by Joe Abercrombie d'ya reckon?

>>9501339
>>9501322
>>9501260
Or maybe Red Rising, with it's wack af gri

>>9501385
>>9501322
Shit, I mixed Red Queen with Red sister, my fault anons.
So, what's bad about it?

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>>9500250
The Face in the Frost by John Bellairs

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/24718342-the-face-in-the-frost

What should I read?

The Lies of Locke Lamora or The Blade Itself?

>>9501471
Locke Lamora.

>>9501471
read blade itself. listen to the locke lamora audiobook, it's great

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>>9502038
>audiobook

Next you're going to tell him to buy it on kindle! Friggin plebs are everywhere these days.

>>9502060
maybe the anon commutes to work on occasion or exercises(things a fat lazy NEET like you probably know nothing about). he could use that time to listen to some audiobooks? I don't see the problem with that?

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>>9502078
Absolute filth you are.
Audiobooks are for people who don't even care about the work.
You just want to avoid silence because you can't be alone with your own thoughts.
Don't even pretend that you have the mental capacity to fully visualise a piece of literature whilst you're doing other things.

>>9502174
>the mental capacity to fully visualise a piece of literature whilst you're doing other things

if you can't do this while jogging, driving, or some other mindless daily tasks or chores, I question your IQ level tbqh

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>>9502185
Your level of visualisation must be a pale imitation of a true /lit/tard if you can do it whilst you're paying attention to your surroundings.
I pity you.

>>9502196
Sorry, I forgot The Blade Itself or The Lies of Fucking Locke Lamora were such deep literary works that require such focus to follow and understand. I'm done wasting time with memester such as yourself. Enjoy being a trolling idiot.

A while ago I saw a guy on the L-train reading a fantasy book, don't know what it was. He got to a page that had lines of verse on it, some song or poem, and he skipped it.

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>>9501260

Well duh

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>>9502218
Who said anything about understanding?
A book doesn't have to be deep to benefit from good visualisation you peasant.
There's no need to lash out at me just because you can't admit your own lack of imagination and therefore your inability to truly appreciate any written work.
You're a shallow normie.
There's nothing particularly wrong with that, but you should acknowledge it and leave this place.
At the very least, stop embarrassing yourself.

>>9502275
The nature of language, spoken or otherwise, conveys meaning. Spending a few minutes visualizing the paragraph you just read and read again is certainly one way to enjoy a novel, but it's by no means the only way.

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>>9502275
>trying to assert superiority over other posters
>while avatarfagging

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>>9502389
>complaining about jpgs

>>9502275
Who the fuck is this guy
Getimoutah here

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>>9502419
A prominent UK politician, leader of the Lib Dems.
Here he is with his wife.

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>>9502445
Wtf I'm British lol, I'm too out the loop.

What's some good semi-realistic Space Opera like Hyperion?

>>9502487
Not a big written scifi guy myself, but Legend of the Galactic Heroes is the GOAT space opera.

is the broken earth series or other series by NK Jesmine decent?

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Read pic related recently.

The central idea is underdeveloped in favor of the protagonists somewhat prosaic personal narrative. The ending of "The Plural of Helen of Troy" also seriously undermined one of the central points of the whole collection regarding the fundamental immorality of time travel.

"The Slayer of Souls" was an unexpectedly good horror story. Wright ought to do that more often.

I'm struck, as another anon pointed out when recommending this, that Wright is actually good at writing dialogue. He's not quite at Jack Vance level, but he's getting there without the annoying Joss Whedon/"reddit" factor that bothers me about so much witty banter in contemporary fiction.

He also manages (here and elsewhere) to keep his goddamn characters distinct. They occasionally descend into caricature but I don't have trouble keeping track of who's who. I might be giving him too much credit having just come off of a Clarke stint though.

>>9502506
The Broken Earth is pretty good. Of her other series, I've read The Hundred Thousand Kingdoms and it was awful.

If a book isn't in bookzz or #bookz is it safe to assume no e-version exists? I'm specifically looking for Stephen Baxter's Obelisk.

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I just finished Ursula Le Guin's award gobbling The Dispossessed from 1974. My initial thoughts? It's a clever book with a lot of worldbuilding; the barren planet founded by anarchists, and the capitalist dystopia they came from. Le Guin is comprehensive in her worldbuilding; geography, history, politics, culture, domestic life, education, dating, food production, and more besides. Annares and Urras feel like fully constructed worlds. I think this even surpasses Dune for breadth and depth of detail

Le Guin explores the shortcomings and pitfalls of the anarchist utopia while comparing/contrasting it with the capitalist hegemony. It turns out that anarchy can produce a restrictive orthodoxy and static society after all. In a society without government and private property, control comes from the collective social conscience, producing 'walls' that stultify the conscience and freedom of the individual, such as that of the genius physicist protagonist, who falls foul of the anarchists and elopes to the the other side. The book is full of comments on the nature of anarchy, capitalism, and the individual, but there is also an interesting subtext on the true nature of time and suffering. It's an extremely thematically dense book, and this along with the non-linear plotting meant that I had to pay more attention than is perhaps customary when reading most SF. I even took notes for heaven's sake. Anyway, it gets 4/5, one star omitted for making me work hard, and because I lost some interest during the lengthy passages about physics.

>>9502585
Flow My Tears, The Policeman said still should've won some of those awards.

Anyone read worldbreaker series by kameron hurley?

>>9502645
I know it's like comparing apples and oranges, but I enjoyed Flow My Tears more. The Dispossessed is so dense and clever, though, that it's award bait, and the kind of book that will have a life in the reader after the last page is finished. Although her Lathe Of Heaven is more charming, simpler while still being philosophical. It may just be my preference for SF books with a narrow focus and scope.

I've had multiple people recommend Book of the New Sun to me but many people have also told me Wolfe is a difficult writer so I feel slightly intimidated. Should I just jump right in or is there maybe a better starting place with Gene Wolfe's works.

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>Warrior born, warrior bred, Sir Danic of Drakehorn has faced death, capture, dismemberment, and torture, but he is not prepared for this curse — trapped inside the body of a beautiful elfmaid!

nice

>>9502724
His treatment of female characters is very sexist.

>>9502776
I bet Heinlein would've been so proud. Would've brought a tear to his eye.

>>9502487
Some works of Alastair Reynolds
Expanse

>>9502844
Who the fuck cares.

>>9502844
Triggered

why was Harry Potter so popular? It couldn't have just been that "It was good," there has to be something that made it good

>>9502884
It was imaginative but grounded enough in reality I guess. It made a world than would make any lonely child desire it to exist, colorful characters and well weaved relationsb helped too.

>>9502884
fun story and characters + millions in marketing budget

someone tell me american gods gets better.
im at page 140 and it's dreadfully boring and the writing isn't very good.

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>>9500197
Can anybody suggest a book with a similar theme/story.

I really enjoyed the first 1/2 but the second 1/2 was way too drawn out and repetitive. It picked up near the ending again but the actual ending was a bit to cliche for my tastes.

>>9502060
>>9502174
>>9502196
>>9502275
>>9502445
African kingdoms anon, do you actually read sff related books, or are you just here to be an avatarfag? You seem to be purposely stirring shit up.

>>9502776
Was.. she taken against her will? I don't think I like trannies because they look like females (some even better than real females) and I know they can't get pregnant, but maybe deep down I know they are a failed shell of a creature who failed at being a man, and now has to take dick and be subservient like a bitch ro survive. I like that.


I wonder who won >>9500000

>>9502724
If you're completely unfamiliar with SFF then read The Fifth Head of Cerberus first. Otherwise just go for it.

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>>9502923
I make numerous posts about books, I just don't always accompany my posts with an image.

Fuck you whoever recommended to kill a god to me, 150 pages in and it's so fucking shit
thanks for wasting my time asshole

>>9502982
But are they sff related books?

>>9502994
>Fuck you whoever recommended to kill a god to me,
Nice try S. No one recommended shit to anyone.

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>>9503002
Well yes.
I actually made a couple in this very thread, though I won't point them out to you.

>>9502994
Kek you deserved it.

>>9503008
It's been in my backlog for some time, I just wanted to tell the guy to go fuck himself

>>9500250
It was WoT, before Sanderson ruined it for me.

>>9500250

Dracula

what are some good non-textbook/journal books on history and science to get ideas for scifi?

>>9503051
What ideas are you looking for? That's kind of a broad purview.

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>>9503051

>>9503064
In terms of science, anything obscure besides modern physics (I've read enough of that). In terms of history nothing I would have already learned of in history class

A mix of both is ideal

>>9503030
It was the author shilling the books. We never recommended them. He used to edit our charts and slip it into the OP.

Anything like Nuruto?

>>9500636

You forgot Gary Gygax..... milleu

>>9503191
This isn't a manga board.

>>9503048

I'm stalled a hundred pages into Dracula. 19th century writing is my bane. Not to mention that the format is my most hated....Journal entries and correspondence. I'll slog through it again soon but fuck if I don't find it repellant....I hope it get more interesting and distracts me from my peeves.

>>9503212

I liked to listen to the audiobook while laying down on my bed
Super comfy

>>9502884

I tried to read it back before the movies were being made. I read like 125 pages in and couldn't understand why the fuck friends and acquaintances were drooling over such garbage. I was going to to toss it in the trash but a cute girl in my office was interested so I gifted it to her.

>>9500197
Thoughts on (RIP) Iain M. Banks? He's very popular around where I am (Fife, Scotland). I just finished up Feersum Endjinn and i thought it was quite good, better than any of his culture novels (though I do adore them as they were what got me into reading sci-fi as an adolescent) although the ending was rather poor which is quite typical of his books I think.

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>>9503234
whoops

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>>9502844
You're gonna need a moby bait m8

>>9500686
>>9500703

Sounds like the The Traitor Baru Cormorant.
I didn't like it very much personally, but for a reason unrelated to the theme of betrayal.

>>9500893

Vorkosigan series.

why the fuck can't i suspend disbelief. i overanalyze everything i read and ruin it

Jake Featherston did NOTHING wrong

>>9503377
most likely it's autism

>>9503384
the prognosis is grim at this point

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Wtf is going on? Why is there some many reddits in the thread? You can see the reddite oozing off their posts.

>>9502913

It doesn't.

>>9502585
I've been binge-reading LeGuin. Started with Left Hand, then Rocannon's World, then Earthsea and Tombs of Atuan. Gotta head down to the library or used book store and get some more.
Currently reading Mona Lisa Overdrive by William Gibson. It's good so far.

Where should I start with Lovecraft?

>>9503234
I like him. Phlebas and Use of Weapons are both top-tier. I also enjoyed the Wasp Factory. I have a copy of the Bridge on my to-read shelf, anyone read it?

>>9503415
I started with Dream Quest of Unknown Kadeth and it's always been my favorite even after reading others. Just get an anthology with a mix of short stories and novellas and you'll find something you'll like.

>>9503398
Shouldn't the Reddit logo be underneath the mask?

>>9503040
After reading some of Sanderson's actual work, and rereading WOT I understand so much how he lacked what I enjoyed in Robert Jordan so much, as well as the stupid anime level ending and lackluster character interaction.

>>9503473
It is. The mask is 60% transparent.

>>9503495
It's been a while since then, so I don't recall exactly what my issues were, except his, later by his own admission, horrible depection of Mat, but I remember I felt like all the characters lacked emotion somehow. Robert didn't write the most developed characters himself of course, the women in particular, but they didn't feel featureless. Obviously finishing a series like WoT is a thankless job at the outset so I can't fault Sanderson too much. He did an ok job all things considered, and I admit I was suspicous of how well he'd do from the start, which probably colored my impression.

>>9503415

Most people are lured in by the Cthulhu mythos so start there:

http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/sources/ccmt.aspx

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>>9503415
i started with this. it also gives you some back history to each story.
>>9503628 this is also a good idea

>>9502575
Did you try Library Genesis? If that fails too then you're probably out of luck.

>>9502724
Read some of his earlier work first. If you don't understand how Wolfe writes there's a strong chance you'll waste 1000 pages worth of reading. Also you should have a reasonable understanding of Catholic thought or else the narrative might seem pointless.

>>9503377
Stop reading shit books. If you're really an analyst at heart go read Seven American Nights and tell me what happens to the protagonist at the end.

>>9503040
so unbelievably dull. Nothing remotely compelling about WoT

daily reminder that sci-fi/fantasy is for degenerates and not real literature

>>9503415
His short stories are great. I started with The Cave and The Alchemist. I was incredibly impressed.

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>>9503747
>people like what I don't like
>REEEEeeeEEEEeeEEEEe

>>9503752
there there, it's okay anon

go back to reading some game of thrones ;)

>>9503747
Infinite Jest is sci-fi, so you're right

>>9503758
Gross this is a sci-fi/fantasy thread not a psuedo-historic porno thread.

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>>9503747
Shoo Mr Spooky.

>>9503784
Took lazy to change music band to genre book or something? Maybe the iron throne or something to show normie stupidity?

>>9503747
>post unironically uses the term "degenerate"

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Why can't Fantasy authors worldbuild like Tolkien?

Any chance I could get an epub of Altered Carbon?

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>>9503415
Just start with anything of his work with the excepcion of at mountains of madness..
Lovecraft is a completely world of different fiction, sometimes you have tales with a huge and obvious influence by the fantasy of Lord Dunsany and sometimes there's gonna be a tale with an atmospheric Poe influence..
Keep going and you will find the unique Lovecraft writing starting with Dagon and the call of Cthulhu, then here m8 it's a long road with the cosmic horror thematic..

Should I use an existing myth as the origin of a character's abilities or should I use one I made up on my own?

>>9503803
Honestly, tolkien's world building is actually grossly overstated. Tolkein only ever wanted to create a language (something few authors are autistic enough to do), and just about everything else was an afterthought ripped from norse or gemanic myth.

Still, if you're asking why fantasy authors can't create whole worlds it's because a 90% of the time the world exists exclusively for the purposes of the story, so much of the society ends up revolving around the one or two things the author wants to showcase (usually the setting's version of magic, or dragons)

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>>9503803
1/5 made me reply

>>9503835
>what is google
If you can't find something so old and abundant on google you don't deserve it. We aren't your fucking servants to fetch what book you desire to read. If you can use 4chan to post (understands captchas) then you are able enough to use google.

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>>9503899
I would use one of existing origins, unless your intent is to pay homage.
>tfw I really need to get around to making the author picking a brain macro

>>9503948
huh, I was expecting you guys would say the other because of "muh low fantasy" Honestly though, even if I do use an existing myth I'll have to either make changes or only mention parts of it because it's not very self-contained and barely focuses on the important parts. Apollo and the Python sucks ass, but I can't think of any other of legendary oracles involving snakes

>>9503967
Hermes got snakes on his staff (messenger but could be made into an oracle), medusa can be turned into an oracle (snake hair), lord shiva (hindu) got snakes around his neck, an Egyptian god has a snake head I think.

>>9500197
Why haven't you read Malazan yet.

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>>9500197
What am I in for?

>>9504274
really far down in my backlog. and i havent found them in a bookstore yet.

Is it worth finishing neuromancer?

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>>9500981
I was halfway through Royal Assassin before dropping it because I got tired of Fitz's thirsty ass and Molly's shit, so please spoil this for me because I actually liked Fitz and his story up until that point despite a few things that irked me:
1. Does Molly either die or fuck off at any point in the series?
2. Do any of the other characters get more time in the story like the Fool, Chade, or Burrich, or literally anybody but fucking Molly?

>>9504432
1.Yes, she dies in the history. Of old age. She doesn't appear that much after some events until the later trilogies.
2.All of them get more screen time than Molly. Burrich even has some very bad ass moments.
Fitz Mopiness will never be healed tough.

>>9504446
How good is the rest of the series/other trilogies? I tend to favor the characters more than anything else as long as it's all decent, but certain characters just boil my piss hot enough that I can't bother unless there's something else that makes the reading worth it.

>>9504511
Anything be Fitz is cool, there is lots of suffering tough, and feeling sorry for himself etc. that series basks in self pity a wee too much, but is full of characters than are cool. Action isn't that common but Fitz delivers some very badass moments,but there are very slow moments. At what book are you? The setting gains more importance novel after novel.

>>9504387
Yes, do you not like it?

>>9504536
midway through Royal Assassin, think I might pick it up again if it really is that good, though I feel like a retard sperging out over inane shit like the romance. And Fitz was cool, mopiness doesn't bother me unless it becomes extremely excessive and unwarranted. I heard some crazy shit happened in later books which is what i'm looking forward to, especially the suffering.

>>9504656
Fitz obsessing over Molly is because he's a hormonal teenager. It really does dial back as he grows up.
The second trilogy is GOAT, and the third is decent, even if the pacing is pretty awful.

What makes literature anime? Thinking about Sanderson's literature always being referred to as anime.

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>>9504849

Anything they don't like is either Reddit or anime writing. I don't know where that faggot theory comes from .. I don't watch anime but I love Sanderson ... I don't know if they're talking about the fight scenes or what

>>9504849
For lack of a better word it has lots of BEAST MODE and highly dramatic and exciting moments. E.g random powerups, idk if you've read stormlight but the Journey before "Journey Before DESTINATION


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3jWwAjfhjo

It's very entertaining imo and I like it but it is very anime.

>>9504849
If you've read Sanderson's action scenes, it's like he's describing an anime's fighting scene

>>9504656
End the book, it starts to pick up, the trilogy has quite an epic final and Fitz will be more and more badass and Molly will not bother you a lot (she ends being quite a good woman tough).

>>9504849
>>9504862
Forgot to add, you will also imagine health/mana/stamina bars in the corner as the fight goes on like in a video game

>>9504859
>>9504862
Haven't read Sanderson and have only watched DBZ and Naruto, so I don't really have reference points.
>>9504865
This seems logical/natural tho. I mean, having limited health, stamina, and ability to use magic.

>>9504871
It has lots of moments like when Naruto loses control of the nine tails and people running out of chakra and stuff, it totally is anime but that isn't really a criticism.

>>9504874
It's a description not criticism

Is Glen Cook's SF series "Starfishers" any good?

I enjoyed Dread Empire and Black Company.

>>9504849
Random powerups.

>>9504874
But what fantasy series doesn't have that?

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Everyone is a pleb but me.

>>9503362
>The Traitor Baru Cormorant
What a poorly written book. I bought it purely because the title and the cover intrigued me. The author just didn't write characters very well, and it relied on a few obvious plot twists.

I know this isn't /tv/, but has anyone seen the BBC/netflix show The Last Kingdom? I just finished up the second season, I think it's entertaining enough to justify watching. Better than Game of Thrones is now, but not as good as the first couple seasons of that show.

What about the books they are based off of, Bernard Cornwell's The Saxon Stories?

Uthred is insufferable after the first couple episodes, but I like most of the other characters, especially Beocca and Hild.

>>9504980
LOTR for example.

>>9504329
A fun dark fantasy adventure.

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Jist picked up the first book in the Earthsea series by Ursala K. GUIN.. seems like an easy read so far.. is this series worth the read?

>>9505059
I liked them, after a while tough they are pretty repetitive.
Read the Warlord chronicles for a Dark Age King Arthur than isn't that bad.

>>9505259
The first three are some of the better early YA series, Le Guin took too many fluoride pills and everything she wrote after 75 goes to shit.

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>>9504849
Read this series and find out. It's anime in prose.
This guy is more of an offender than Sanderson.

>>9505059
I just finished The Expanse 2 and I'd kill for a new fantasy show. Is Kingdom fantasy or historical? Trailer looks like history.

>>9505618
History desu, based in the saxon chronicles novels.

>>9504849
When Kassad breaks the sound barrier kicking the Shrike. Madness.

>>9500250
Hobbit and/or Lord of the Rings. You can't deny that it is comfy as fuck to read.

Jack Vance or Gene Wolfe.

Who do you like more and why?

I'm looking for something with an interesting magic system and low romance. Sanderson is okay and the name of the wind is fine. hit me.

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After reading The Dispossessed I felt like something simpler, so I picked up a volume of Fritz Leiber's Lankhmar stories from my pulp pile and read The Jewels In The Forest, 1939. Here, Fafhrd and Gray Mouser are pursued to a tower among the woods, where they seek an unguarded treasure. This is a story that establishes promises early on and fulfills them; horse chases, sword fighting, mysterious old men, a damsel in peril, tense scenes in a dark skeleton-strewn tower, and between everything the camaraderie of the archetypal thief and his taller barbarian companion. This is the first Lankhmar story I've read. It feels like a more lighthearted and readable Conan story with less purple prose. Instead of the usual dinosaurs I feel like awarding this a Siskel and Ebert inspired two thumbs up; more particular rating is reserved until I get a better grip on Mr Leiber and find out if he is a one-trick-pony or not. In itself, this is good escapism in forty pages.

>>9505583
>Will Wight is the author of the Traveler's Gate trilogy, and he has dominion over all sea creatures. Speak not his name into a mirror three times, lest he turn his gaze upon you. Under the light of a full moon, he is revealed as a sentient penguin.
Cringe.

>>9505974
They do different things and are difficult to compare, even if Wolfe was heavily influenced by Vance. Wolfe writes intricate, metaphor-heavy mysteries shrouded in sf&f tropes that carry grand themes. Vance writes perfect/near-perfect adventure stories with truly alien environments and superlative dialogue.

But gun to my head I'd say Wolfe, because his highest highs are as remote as the stars from which Lucifer fell.

>>9505059
Most Bernard Cornwell protagonists are basically the same guy. Gruff, pragmatic, caught between two worlds. A bit wild. A bit romantic. Skeptical of the existing power structures, and a loyal friend.
Unless you're a historyfag, you're enjoyment of his books will depend on your preference for "The Bernard Cornwell Type."
If you're curious, try Stonehenge, since it's a single novel rather than a series.

>>9502174
Ha! So true, but sometimes audiobooks are a nice change.

Just finished Enders game. Should I keep up with thr sequels? The story felt nicely wrapped up by thr end.

>>9506337
I wouldn't bother desu. Like Dune the first one is the best one and the only one you need to read.

>>9506337
If you liked Ender's character, go ahead and read Speaker for the Dead. That was the book Card originally wanted to write, Ender's Game only exists for backstory. Don't read Xenocide or Children of the Mind, they are utter shit.

If you liked Bean's character, read Ender's Shadow. Those books are not as "intellectual" and are basically just military conflicts but are still entertaining to some extent.

>>9506337
I preferred Ender's Shadow to Ender's Game. But that's just my opinion. Bean is a much more interesting character.

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Post some books that you will have your kids read

>>9506464
I need to make a list when my kids grow up. I'll be looking what people post.

>>9506464

>want my kids to read Redwall

>but reconsider it on the off chance that one of them becomes a furry later on

>>9506478
id love to have a list of good YA and kidlit stuff
to tell you the truth i like consuming those even now

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>>9506464
What a ride this series was, if you stuck with it to the end.

>>9506464
I won't make my kids read fantasy.

>>9506500
So fucking good. I cranked through all 12 of them in a month back in Middle School

>>9506515
I did that, too -- but whenever I read like that I forget so much that I have to reread it.

>>9506500
even the manga of this was good, they got a great artist for it

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Can it meet expectations?

>>9502174
I can if its a fugging Harry Turtledove novel

>>9506464
redwall

ranger's apprentice

>>9506535
Yes, I'm sure it'll be just as bad as I expect.

>>9503040
This is such a meme in so many levels.

>>9506464
Redwall
The Dark is Rising
Chronicles of Prydain
The Edge Chronicles
A Wrinkle in Time
The Giver

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After reading some classics, I gave The World at the End of Time by Frederik Pohl a chance, since I was looking for some more contemporary, pulpy stuff.

His prose is giving me a headache, jesus christ. His writing style is something like:
>John sat in the corner that, mind you -even if he didn't want to admit- most of the time, was very damp.
He sets up a focus/subject and then adds detail by nesting it and drifting off to other things, only to return to the subject in question, this can sometimes stretch for a whole paragraph.

Is this the way the genre moved in the early 90's? am I the plebeian here?

>>9506535
I hope so, but the expectations are too high already.

>>9506479
It's not literature that you need worry about.

>>9506756
Fair enough

My sister always had a suspicious fixation with the fox version of Robin Hood

I think I like the concept of Biopunk more than cyberpunk however the only book usually reccomended is one about a robot sex slave living in Thailand and I don't really feel like suffering all the way trough. Anyone know any cool books?

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>>9506464
Nation by Terry Pratchett

It's pretty great. Doesn't shy away from the topic of death, as it starts with a cataclysmic event that kills everyone from around the young main characters. Has a fair bit of the fantastic too.

I really should get around to lending my copy to my cousin.

>>9502724
Start with Wizard Knight or Soldier of Mist. Starting with Book of the New Sun is like starting Tolkien with Silmarillion.

>>9502853
>Heinlein
Looks more like a Jack L. Chalker type.

>>9503191
Will Wight. His books feel very anime-like. And I mean that in a good way.

Shadow and Sea specifically for ninjas.

>>9506535
I don't care. I'm already on mr Sandersons wild Cosmere ride. My expectation is for that brick of a book to give more plot and worldbuilding, and it certainly will. Don't have any expectations on what I'd like the characters to do. Hell, even Lift isn't quite that annoying anymore after Edgedancer.

>>9504329
The good stuff.
>>9504274
Damn, I forgot about that. I got Dune earlier today.

Anyone know of any fantasy novels that focus on people learning science?

>>9506935
fantasy is incompatible with science

>>9506935
perdido street station

>>9506957
>>9506935
>First get your facts straight, then distort them at your leisure.

-Mark Twain

>>9500893
I have pretty much scoured the entire space opera subgenre over the years i worked in a small warehouse and unfortunately this anon is right:
>>9501151
Truly and thoroughly shit subgenre with gigantic amounts of awful books and hopeless authors. Alastair Reynolds earlier works in revelation space "universe" (and House of Suns standalone book) are probably the best though

Other than that Hyperion books are ok, Vernor Vinges A Fire Upon The Deep is good, Watts's Blindsight is worthwhile and Iain banks's The Player of Games as well.

...And i feel like i have to also mention Peter F. Hamilton when talking space opera, the author with a lifetimes supply of wasted potential. His prose is good and he is the grandmaster of world building but the actual storytelling is lacking and characters are generally poorly written so the books feel like a mix of literal soap opera and an overly cliche blockbuster marvel movie at times. Still, Pandoras Star/Judas Unchained duology is among my favourite space operas, a step or 2 above rest of his books. Definitely worth your time if you want to lose yourself into another universe for an extended amount of pages.

>>9500250

Foundations trilogy by Asimov, The Dark Tower by King.

Or if you want comfier-

Tolkien. Series of Unfortunate Events. All the Wrong Questions.

Can't think of many others, despite that everything seems to be a series these days.

>>9500636

Don't forget your Harlan Ellison, and your Arthur C. Clarke.

>>9506935
The Baroque Cyle?

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Is it bad that I read the first book at a speed of 15 pages an hour? It is very calming to read, I often dwell on the choice of words

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>>9506464
No childhood is complete without reading this and getting inspired to fill a notebook with the natural history of the phooka

>>9507059
Slow reading is patrician

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>>9502235

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>>9507097
>phooka
just realized what these things are based off of, thanks.

>>9502506
stay away from Jemisin

>>9502776
>kindle only, no printed version
sad

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>>9506464

>>9505618
I'm late coming back to the thread. Like that other anon said, it is historical. Based mid-9th-century England when the invasion by various Norse peoples is ongoing.

If you like fantasy just for the WONDER, you won't find it here. They're fairly dark and gritty, down to earth for the most part. The main character is pretty irritating, he's arrogant and brash and always thinks things should be his way. Not a mary sue though, the world kicks him around pretty hard. I think the characters are interesting enough to make the series worth watching.

>>9506184
>try Stonehenge
Thanks for that, I'll probably try it some day.

>>9506522
I should do that at some point. Track down the whole series for myself. It would look nice on my bookshelf

>>9506837
The best I can think of is Paul di Filippo's Ribofunk

>>9502506
I've never read her, so my opinion is more worthless than usual, but from what I heard she writes message fiction: she cares more about tackling social issues than writing a good story or characters. Now I guess that's fine but it's not what I want to read. I like interesting narratives, not political messages. I mostly ignore literary fiction because I don't really care about language or beautiful writing.

>>9503415
>>9503659
Don't get that one, it looks tacky as fuck (this one is "as is", that's not the dustcover) and has silvered page edges so every time you read it your hands turn a nice sparkling silver.
get this one:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1631060015
or this one:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0785834206
or this one (not yet released though) instead:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1607109328

There's also an annotated version:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0871404532

I'd recommend another one from a British publisher, which is the best one, but I forgot the name of it and it is for some reason a bit harder to find on amazon, and since you'd pay $1000 anyway due to it being out of print, there is no use to do it.
Can't give any recommendation to paperbacks.

>>9506935
The Baroque Cycle
Perdido Street Station
As a stretch: Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality

>>9507191
>Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality
I'm reading that now, god help me. Though I must say AU-Harry's autism is funnier than expected.

>>9502506
It's good

>>9507207
Is it actually good or so bad its good

>>9507307
Too early to quite tell yet, I'm only up to Chapter 6. Harry genuinely seems to be on the spectrum - talks about everyday actions in terms like "fundamental attribution error", "rejecting the quantum Hamiltonian", etc - but he also seems to enjoy fucking with people for no reason, which at least makes him more interesting than Rowling's bland messiah figure.

>>9507349
I think harry was alway meant as a blank template for self insertion in contrast to all the more identifiable charcters around him. Ron is really the only exception being so bland the movies had to turn him into the comic relief

I've read the first two books of BotNS, and I've heard that you're supposed to realize at some point that there are certain inaccuracies in the story. Does that happen in 3/4 at some point, or in 1/2 and I just missed it because I'm a retard?

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I'm so utterly fucking divided on what my next writing project should be. How do you sit down and embrace a single fucking piece when there are so many things to write?

Also, I'm about to finish Bakker's "The Warrior Prophet," and I want some puply adventure to enjoy to escape my rut. Any recommendations?

>>9507420
Yeah, that makes sense - I know a big part of its success is that he grows up along with the reader. Yudkowsky's version, it's just fun to see him sperg out about the exchange rate of Galleons to pounds sterling not making sense, or trick Draco into saying he wants to be a Gryffindor just as Lucius walks in the room.

>>9507459
I spend a set amount of each day wroting and a set amount of each day planning. If I think I have enough of my current story planned out to do the day's writing, I'll make plans or detail the outlines for others to sate my storylust.

>>9507472
*also, did I mention the damn thing's 2000+ pages long in Kindle? Wew lad.

>>9507004
>Player of Games
Have to disagree there, if you're going to read Banks then Phlebas is definitely the place to start.

>>9505028

To give it some credit, I thought the first third (focusing on economic warfare) was pretty interesting, but it all went south from there. I'm also surprised at how so many people (judging from the reviews) didn't see the plot twist.

>>9507491
I always thought the easiest way into The Culture was The State of the Art. Consider Phlebas throws you right in with hardly any lore/worldbuilding
>inb4 muh world building
while TSOTA gives you a nice and cozy overview of what the culture is able to do because the Culture related short stories in it throw a lot of useful information at you in a short and digestable amount of text.

>>9507448
Just keep reading. The most obvious "lies" involve Thecla and are most evident in the third book.

>>9507448
I just finished the first book. It felt slow and plodding, and I didn't care about any of the characters. Some neat world building, but I'm wondering if I should bother with the next book.

I want to read some dino.

Who goes first? Shadow of the torturer,Titus groan or dying earth?

>>9507826
If you thought the first book was "plodding," yeah, go read some Rothfuss or Sanderson.

>>9507897
Shadow of the Torturer my dude

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>>9507155
Here's my slapped-together collection of the series.

>>9506691
I like this list, and I would add the westmark quartet, the first two lives of Lucas kasha, some Diana Wynne jones, and watership down.

>>9507134
Me on the left.

>>9507134
I do not believe Harlan Ellison said those things, unless he was being sarcastic.

>>9508210
>watership down
You want to traumatize your children?

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>>9508286
I was surprised too, given his grumpy persona, but he wrote a whole introduction
>They could not have been more offended, confused, enraged and startled... There was a moment of stunned silence... and then an eruption of angry voices from all over the fifteen-hundred-person audience. The kids in their Luke Skywalker pajamas (cobbled up from older brother's castoff karate gi) and the retarded adults spot-welded into their Darth Vader freight-masks howled with fury. But I stood my ground, there on the lecture platform at the World Science Fiction Convention, and I repeated the heretical words that had sent them into animal hysterics:

>"Star Wars is adolescent nonsense; Close Encounters is obscurist drivel; Star Trek can turn your brains into puree of bat guano; and the greatest science fiction series of all time is Doctor Who! And I'll take you all on, one-by-one or all in a bunch to back it up!"

>Auditorium monitors moved in, truncheons ready to club down anyone foolish enough to try jumping the lecture platform, and finally there was relative silence. And I head scattered voices screaming from the back of the room,"Who?" And I said, "Yes. Who!"

>(It was like that old Abbott and Costello routine: Who's on first? No, Who's on third; What's on first.)

>After a while we got it all sorted out and they understood that when I said Who I didn't mean whom, I meant Who... Doctor Who... the most famous science fiction character on British television. The renegade Time Lord, the far traveler through Time and Space, the sword of justice from the planet Gallifrey, the scourge of villains and monsters the galaxy over. The one and only, the incomparable, the bemusing and bewildering Doctor Who, the humanistic defender of Good and Truth, whose exploits put to shame those of Kimball Kinnison, Captain Future and pantywaist nerds like Han Solo and Luke Skywalker.

>My hero! Doctor Who!

>For the American reading (and television-viewing) audience (and in this sole, isolated case I hope they're one and the same) Doctor Who is a new factor in the equation of fantastic literature. Since 1963 the Doctor and his exploits have been a consistent element of British culture. But we're only now being treated to the wonderful universes of Who here in the States. For those of us who were exposed to both the TV series on BBC and the long series of Doctor Who novels published in Great Britian, the time of solitary proselytizing is at an end. All we need to do now is thrust a Who novel into the hands of the unknowlegable, or drag the unwary to a TV set and turn it on as the good Doctor goes through his paces. That's all it takes. Try this book and you'll understand.

Only other time I've seen him praise something is on pic related

>>9507097
haven't actually ever touched this. Worth the read even in my 20s?

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>>9508326
Sure - it probably loses something from no longer being that "there might be a magical world just over the garden wall" age, but there's still plenty of neat characters and lore in there. And they're pretty short, so it won't take long

>>9508316
>and the retarded adults spot-welded into their Darth Vader freight-masks howled with fury. But I stood my ground, there on the lecture platform at the World Science Fiction Convention, and I repeated the heretical words that had sent them into animal hysterics:

I don't think I've ever been simultaneously offended to my core and made to laugh hysterically with a single sentence. That's a neat introduction, thanks for that Anon.

>>9508338

Hey, I've got some of them.

https://youtu.be/dDKHBepPgQ8

Can anyone recommend me some fantasy novels similar in setting to The Ambergris Cycle, Dying Earth, or The Etched City?

>>9508462
BotNS

>>9508316
The Iron Dream had an interesting premise completely wasted by lazy execution.

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Could anyone help me identify a couple of sci-fi novels I've forgotten the titles of?

The first one is a short story, written somewhere between the 50s and 70s, about a moon base in which a couple of engineers built a series of machines that can produce milk and meat from raw ingredients and they call it an artificial cow.

The second one is a novel series. Protagonist is one of a group of people digitally replicated into dozens of sleeper exploration ships. After the ship arrives a group of aliens build several towers full of technological gifts including an energy-field spacesuit and a small golden FTL vessel. Shortly afterward it turns out a hostile species is following the gift-givers and destroying any species that receives the gifts. Protagonist escapes in the FTL ship and returns to earth to find that he is the only copy of his original that didn't go insane and that the aliens have followed him back to the solar system. He escapes with a companion as the solar system is destroyed and they embark on a quest to find out what the enemy ships are and why they do what they do.

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Fantastic book. The protagonist's total immersion in the setting and culture and resulting limited viewpoint give you a lot of hints at a much bigger picture than what most of the characters are concerned with.

>>9508316
Harlan Ellison has written more introductions than he has written stories.

>>9508638
It was shit. Stop lying to yourself and anons, just because you don't want the times spent on this to look like a waste.
>muh sword
>muh brain cleanse
>muh shattering
>muh embedding
>muh another fucking political power grab novel
If I could find the anon who suggested (shilled for all those weeks) this novel....

I went and randomly ordered two books from Amazon. They're both relatively new fantasy novels I've heard nothing about. likely to be shit, but hey.

http://www.bkstr.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CourseMaterialsResultsView?catalogId=10001&categoryId=9604&storeId=10537&langId=-1&programId=888&termId=100046559&divisionDisplayName=%20&departmentDisplayName=U65&courseDisplayName=311&sectionDisplayName=31&demoKey=d&purpose=browse

how is this course reading list? i think i'm gonna take the class if it'll count for transfer credit but just wanna know what you folks think.

>>9503715

mobilism and Lib Gen....if neither pan out then wait or give up

>>9507826
I assure that there's 0 exaggeration in saying that ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING you just read was vital and pays off. Don't think of Shadow of the Torturer as book one of four, think of it as the first quarter of the one big book.

>>9508870
While your right, I don't think anon is going to enjoy the other books if he didn't enjoy the prose or pace or based Dorcas of the first book.

>>9508874
I don't recommend starting Wolfe with New Sun. If you don't know how to approach his work it can seem very unfulfilling for something that's 1000 pages long. The Fifth Head of Cerberus and Peace should be considered required prior reading.

>>9508693
If all his introductions were collected in their own book, would he then write an introduction to it?

>>9508923
Naw Neil Gaiman would write it. He is a huge fan.

>>9508832
>They're both relatively new fantasy novels
What are they?

>>9508953

Let's check the order, The Hundredth Queen by Emily R. King and The Red Sea by Edward Robinson.

The queen one interests me because it's supposedly in the YA section but the blurb is full of shit about concubines and revolution so I want to see how badly it handles the subject, and the Red Sea is from 2015 and is part of the "Galand" series but I picked it because it's about traveling on the ocean and I feel like reading that.

I'm not a smart person.

>>9508923
He should do that and publish it as Last Dangerous Visions

Reading Stand on Zanzibar atm

It's pretty out there, I'm loving it.

Must finish Neuromancer as well

>Finished first Powder Mage

wat,
>Gods are just really powerful sorcerers
>Gods can't die
What's going on here, and can someone explain those privileged who are like a thousand years old? How does that work?

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What I'm up to get there?

I'm up for any sort of fantasy series, but I'd like to read something with excellent prose. I could care less what it's about, just recommend a fantasy book/series with god tier prose.

>>9509636
"Good prose" is so subjective and the term "prose" itself is misused so much that it might as well be completely meaningless. What exactly do you want out of it other than "good prose"?

>>9509636
>>9509707
isn't using the term "good prose" simply an excuse to pretend you are not just reading for plot

>>9509791
Yeah pretty much. It's complete nonsense, it doesn't actually mean anything other than that you want to sound intelligent.

>>9509808
suck a dick. it's people like you with your low expectations of sci-fi and fantasy that keep it from being more than pleb tier. i'm out, you knuckle dragging faggots

>>9506464
My oldest will read his dark materials, considering I named her Lyra

Slightly off topic but nobody's forcing you to reply.

I just saw Alien: Covenant. It was okay with occasional flashes of excellent. Fassbender carries the whole thing again. 6.5/10 movie.

I just want to go on an adventure. No fate of the world shit, just explorer guy on a horse, trusty sidekick, unknown lands, sky's the limit.

>>9509878
I enjoyed the lore sections of Prometheus, are there lots of them? Is there blatant sequel bait?

>>9509636
Gene Wole-sama is the sempai for you

>>9509879
Do you mean that you yourself want to do that or that you want to read a book that gives you that experience?

>>9509902
The movie is at its best when there are no guns or spaceship problems to fix and there's just spooky ayy lmao mystery stuff going on. There's a decent amount of that but it's not what I'd call the heart of the movie. It's a spooky expedition of explorers getting fucked up by weird stuff movie with a couple of well done lore moments. If you really liked Prometheus I'd say it's worth seeing but if you're a general science-fiction fan you can take it or leave it. Nothing mind-blowing but it's got a few neat visuals, a couple of cool sequences and a handful of characters that are actually interesting.

>>9509844
>his
>her
Gender is a social construct and my child can choose xer gender freely and change anytime.

>>9502585
This is the best post I've seen in 30 sffgs. Very underrated.

>>9509911

Well I don't see any unmarked spots on the map, anon.

>>9507059
Reading well > well read

>>9510052
You didn't answer the question mon ami.

>>9507059
Took me longer than it should to read Watt's stuff, and even Tolkein was a struggle for me at times.

Does any one here own both Hardback Stormlight Archive Books?

If that's the case, how do I see which edition mine are? Because WoR has almost twice as much depth as TWoK.

>>9509391
This is what happens when your raised on a strict diet of Obsidian and BioWare.

>>9510006
It's just reviewer /dino-as-measurements anon. He does this all the time.
Most of us place our reviews in goodreads where they won't be deleted and forgotten in 7 days.

>>9510791
Explain please. (Don't play video gamez)

>>9510825
Don't worry about posterity my fellow, they'e backed up to wordpad, google drive, or used as a basis for a larger blog. I do have a goodreads as it happens. Anyway, I put things here for reasons of egoism and to stimulate discussion.

>>9510831
Avellone, Sawyer, Gaider, etc do this in literally every game they're involved in, It got so ridiculous in Pillars of Eternity that even your average fedorist thought they went full retarded.

>>9510825
>dino
this meme hasn't caught on and it's sad you're still doing this. you're right, they won't be forgotten in 7 days, they'll be forgotten in 7 minutes because it's goodreads and you're not a top upboated reviewer.

>>9510864
you have a blog? i'd love to read more, or even from your goodreads. it's a shame there aren't enough quality readers to have elicited a bigger response here.

>>9510884
Against my better judgement to link it - but I keep a blog at https://cs7850.wordpress.com where I try and post twice a month. My goodreads is just for keeping track of books.

>>9510864
>>9502585
Le Guin's understanding of Political Science is at a high school level, she does the same shit with Earthsea, a French Lit graduate pretending like she's a anthropologist because she can name-drop her parents.

>>9509831
Sorry you had to find out you won't be able to impress anyone by reading sci-fi and fantasy. People here generally read for fun, not to pad their goodreads account with titles that make people think they're some kind of intellectual.

>>9510954
Why would anyone care if anons see them as intellectuals?
Seems weird to me.

>>9509636
Lord of Light

Hey friendos.

I'm about to finish up book 3 of the Eragon series. I know it's not that great, but i read them when I was young and enjoy them.

What kind of novels are similar? I also love books that have the spirit of DnD.

>>9511109
His Majesty's Dragon

>>9509632
India privilege checking mainland Europe for colonization

>>9511109
Eragon is awful. the Malazan series is directly inspired by DnD and several other tabletop games, also a fairly recent one is the Crimson Queen novel, it's the first in a trilogy and has a similar kind of aesthetic as a lot of DnD stuff (Spider cults, lots of intelligent non-human monsters, Paladins etc), but it's not really similar in a narrative sense.
Also if you can handle manga read Dungeon Meshi, it's basically a DnD party on a dungeon crawl who run out of money for food and have to cook monsters.

Then there's the actual DnD novels, but they're mostly terrible. Then again, if you can enjoy Eragon you can probably enjoy them anyway.

>>9511147
I'm relatively easy to please book-wise, which I'm grateful for. Basically, any high fantasy with well written characters will hook me.

>>9510919
Thank you. You shouldn't have any trouble as long as you're not a booktuber roastie.

What are some good reads that involve exploring the unknown? Maybe discovering new horrors.

>>9503415
I don't know if you should start there, but if you have some spare time, try Pickman's Model:
http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/fiction/pm.aspx
It's a fun and entertaining little story (although you can see the ending from a mile away, but don't let that discourage you).

And I found Pickman's Model to be pretty funny too, anybody else?

>>9511255
Not really, then again I haven't read it in ages. At The Mountains of Madness is my favorite, I wanna see more stories like it.

>>9507791
>involve Thecla
What was that about?

>>9511249
Blindsight :^)

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>>9511330
I found this part really funny. The way he comes out of the room with his revolver, having fired all six shots, and muttering about the rats.

>>9511353
>"Send a linguist with multiple-personality disorder and a biologist so spliced with machinery that he can't feel his own flesh. Send a pacifist warrior and a vampire recalled from the grave by the voodoo of paleogenetics. Send a man with half his mind gone since childhood"
>Vampire

>>9511249
As already suggested, blindsight is worth reading, there are very few well written cosmic horror first encounter sci-fi books. Admittedly though the priests tale from Hyperion is imo the apex of 'discovering new horrors' when it comes to sci-fi, way better than rest of the book.

>>9509632
Basically fantasy Russia had actual gods and several hundred years in the past enslaved a neighboring continent. Eventually fantasy India invented guns and so on, used them to kill the gods and brought, ah, a conqueror's justice to their oppressors. The book is set a century or so afterwards (about 1890 in tech level) and is about a woman who is part of a MIB/Warehouse 13 type organization that investigates the little remnants of the divine that still pop up and is sent to the capital of the old empire after her mentor is murdered.

I thought it was damn good. Really well crafted and while the main character is kinda twee (I guess), the supporting characters and everything else make up for that. The sequels switch to the two supporting characters and take place years later, respectively the General character is sent to investigate a disappearance, and Viking Old Snake on a quest for revengeance.

>>9511349
How about you read the books and find out? Instead of looking for handouts so you can meme and pretend as if you read the fucking book.

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Since one of the anons mentioned Eragon. It made me remember a specific kind of itch I've been having recently.

Are there any actually good novels with a MC/Talking pet dynamic? When I was brat I liked Digimon over Pokememe because the monsters could actually talk.

A boy and his dog comes to mind. But thats an actual pet, I was looking for something more out there.

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>>9511973
>mc/talking pet dynamic

Robin Hobbs books have that going through a mental bond (most other people cant hear them).

>>9512098
Isn't that daddy issue: the book?

>>9512150
Ehhh more like mommy issues, if you're talking emotionally.

>>9512150
It's bloo bloo bloo I'm a bastard nobody loves me the series

>>9512193
Which is why it's pretty good for hormonal teenagers.

>STILL no TUC ARCs on ebay

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>>9512265
Don't worry friend

Only 50 days you can buy the official version and see Akka finally end his journey and get cycled to death

NEW THREAD

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>>9506618
this bait thooooough