Is it about time we retired the "start with le greeks"

>>9435508
>people will respond to this as if the OP was serious
>OP will now claim he is serious to ensure replies from people who believe he is serious

Stop shitting up this board

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>>9435508
>that filename

>>9435508
On the contrary, I cannot believe people actually read Nietzsche without first starting with the Greeks.

que a hundred undergrads angrily replying to this post because they jumped into zarathustra in high school without any philosophical context and desperately wish to believe they understood it

>>9435508
This is a typical response that you would expect from an ignorant sophomore.

Yes, we now now a lot more and yes they were wrong on many isues. That's not the point you fool. Their methodologies, their philosophical vocabulary/concepts, the issues they discussed, in short their whole approach to epistemological, metaphysical and ontological questions shaped western thought for centuries - and still do.

So no we don't start with the Greeks to blindly follow their explanations, but because you cannot understand western thought without this intellectual legacy.

>>9435525
>que

queue or cue, m8. que is what you say if you're an imbecilic waiter from Barcelona. also, you took OP's bait.

>>9435526
You fell for it. Congrats, you are literally ten times dumber than your imagined foe.

Are you literally autistic?

>>9435526
found the retard

Thanks for the wallpaper.

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>>9435532
>>9435538
no need to be so harsh, anons. you're giving /lit/ a bad rap. anon's explanation was complete and succinct, profressor grade shit. your posts are garbage.

saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaage

>>9435526
>muh historical importance
I can drive a car just fine without learning how to drive a carriage. To claim that you can't understand muh West without the greeks is outright retarded, greeks were by and large lost to the western world until renaissance, and the world carried on just fine. Nobody cares about greek epistemology or their childish cosmological ideas too.
Move on, life's too short to pay a tribute to some cunts.

>>9435532
>>9435538
Maybe we fell for his bait

>>9435550
>false analogies
>'muh greentext'
If only you read the Greeks you'd be able to form a valid coherent argument.

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>>9435508
>he thinks reading the greeks is a meme
stop making threads and go read the greeks

OP's a retarded shitposter. That being said, given that Western education is predicated heavily on the core intellectual concepts of the greater Greek historians and philosophers, it seems unnecessary to start at square one for the majority of texts. While a reader may miss blatant references to the Greeks, they are unlikely to strongly misinterpret or otherwise fail to understand the meaning behind most works of Western Canon provided they have even a highschool education.

>>9435508
You're wasting your time. I'm not disagreeing with you, but asking these people to admit just how useless and irrelevant greek philosophy is would be asking them to admit that the one thing they can take solace in and be proud of in their otherwise empty and unhappy lives, is a giant masturbatory waste of time. Let them play pretend philosophy has bettered them.

>>9435550
>greeks were by and large lost to the western world until renaissance
Is this a joke? Do you not know about the impact of neoplatonism on christian philosophy?

>>9435675
samefag as OP

>>9435716
you realize you are on 4chan right.

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>>9435508
>Fact: average highschooler these days is smarter than Plato and Socrates combined

Hmm, you sure seem to know a lot about the nature of intelligence. If that's the case then you shouldn't have any problem describing it for us, would you?

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>>9436232
SOCRATES MY NIGGA LETS DRINK

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>>9435508
>Heidegger recommended postponing reading Nietzsche, and to "first study Aristotle for ten to fifteen years".

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>>9435508

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>>9436251
>nietzsche never read aristotle

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>>9436253