Reddit came up with a list of books everyone should read before

>most of these appear on those list of /lit/'s 100 favorites

But we sure are better and superior guys!

>>9418946
Didn't expect any more or any less. Reddit-tier, is how I would describe it.

>comics
>"religious texts" in an attempt to be pc
>only 1 book in spanish and it is not don quixote
>stephen king
>no shakespeare
>no homer

...

>>9418946
>no Tolstoy

Why are they so fucking stupid and yet so arrogant?

How can someone be both elitist and plebeian?

Calvin & Hobbes isn't even the best American newspaper comic strip. Where is Peanuts, Krazy Kat, Lil Abner, and KRAZY KAT?!?!?

They're a fucking cancer.

>>9418946
Lacking some heavy weight

>>9418971
>Where is Peanuts, Krazy Kat, Lil Abner, and KRAZY KAT?!?!?

They didn't grow up reading them so they don't count.

>>9418946
>before they die:

More like before they finish high school

>Maus
>Implying comics are literature

>>9418946

I wish I had read more of these while I was getting my BA. Instead, we'd read Heart of Darkness, Achebe's essay about how racist Heart of Darkness is, and then some contemporary African fiction, we'd do it like it was a sacred rite that kept the funding flowing from the gods of progressive liberalism.

there's at least seven truly excellent books in that list, it's not that bad

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>>9418977
Pathetic.

But really, it's their loss. I have no affection for niche things, I wish Krazy Kat was more popular, but it isn't, and that doesn't keep me up at night either. Anyone who can't appreciate its beauty, its poetry, its humour, its incredible artwork, is missing out.

>>9418946

For god's sake, add in some non-fiction.

>>9418946
>Reddit came up with a list of books
Haha maybe you should go back to check on them
I'm sure we'll be okay without you for a while ;)
xoxox

>>9418991
>theres at least seven truly exellent books in that list
Yeah, nobody is denying that. Some of the books are legitimately good. The problem is that they're all entry tier books that you read in high school. The only books in that list that are arguably life-changing are The Brothers Karamazov and Meditations.

Any list that doesn't at least have the Divine Comedy and Paradise Lost in it are objectively garbage.

>>9418991
There are better book lists.

Here are some:

http://www.toptenbooks.net/the-list-of-books-view

http://thegreatestbooks.org/

http://sonic.net/~rteeter/grtadler.html

http://sonic.net/~rteeter/grtbloom.html

http://sonic.net/~rteeter/grtfad3.html

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>>9418957
people likeyou should be executed. STOP ruining our tribal fights. What do you know?
We need it
Genetics
Joy
And a taste of happiness

>>9419045
It's always a mistake to overestimate Reddit's taste.

Take a look at this garbage with 10,469 points (85% upvoted)

https://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/5ftsnt/inspired_by_the_100_books_every_man_should_read/

He was upset someone posts The Art Of Manliness's top 100 list (which is a decent entry level list for the average normie)

>I saw a post this morning that linked to the 100 books every man should read, and upon going through the list, I was unimpressed. Some of the picks were ridiculous (The Bible?), and some a little heavy-handed (The Prince?). I guess my problem with lists like these is that they are so long and sprawling. What do I do when I read them all Grow a beard and barbecue a pig? What's the end goal?

>I think these sorts of lists should be smaller and less preachy. So what I am going to do is share a list of books that profoundly influence me as the human being, adult, and man I am. My goal is to share some good stuff. Hopefully people read this, get into these books and writers, and are touched by these stories and ideas. One of my professors said we read fiction to learn how to live better, which is kinda corny but also a little true. So here is my list. Trying not to go too far into summaries.

Then he lists

>Fight Club by Chuck Palahniuk.
>Ask the Dust by John Fante.
>East of Eden by John Steinbeck.
>"Winter Dreams" by F. Scott Fitzgerald. T
>Sirens of Titan by Kurt Vonnegut.

This fucking retard lists Fight Club in his reading list of 5 books but thinks the inclusion of THE BIBLE is ridiculous. THE BIBLE. But Fight Club is essential.

>>9418946
>Asimov, Stephen King and Douglas Adams
>two graphic novels

I occasionally like to relax with genre fiction and comics too, but they're not literature, more like escapism; and less deserving of being on this list than the other sci-fi esque works here which do approach being literary (Vonnegut, Keyes, Huxley, Tolkein). This is while Tolstoy and Shakespeare are nowhere to be found.

I confess I don't know who O'Brien, Gilman, Wiesel are.

>>9419082
I feel like adding that Mary Shelley's Frankenstein seems like a big omission.

>>9419077
By the way, the guy who is posting advice on books that "profoundly influenced me as the human being, adult, and man I am" has a user history that consists of posting on Pokemon, Professional Wrestling, Advice Animals, and Rick & Morty. I'm sure his list is better than Harold Bloom's.

reddit is better than 4chan. so is 420chan and goodreads

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stop making lists

make ternary trees

>>9418946
>no Italian authors
reddit you fucking suck so much

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>night
>to kill a mockingbird
It's even worse than I would expect of reddito

>>9418946
This list is so American it hurts

>>9419107
That reminds me, here are two essential articles from Kantbot:

>Advice on Beginning a Serious Study of Literature

https://autisticmercury.com/2014/05/04/no-25/

And his reading list:

https://autisticmercury.com/2017/02/25/kantbots-critical-forests/

1. Jacques the Fatalist and his Master by Denis Diderot

2. The Exemplary Novels by Cervantes

3. Daphnis and Chloe by Longus

4. Robinson Crusoe by Daniel Defoe

5. The Sorrows of Young Werther by Goethe

6. The Vicar of Wakefield by Oliver Goldsmith

7. Heinrich von Ofterdingen by Novalis

>If you would like to extend this list a bit, I would also recommend the following works:

>The History of Rasselas, Prince of Abissinia by Samuel Johnson
>The Princesse de Cleves by Madame de Lafayette
>The Tales of Hoffmann
>An Ethiopian Romance by Heliodorus
>The Expedition of Humphry Clinker by Tobias Smollett

>>9419108
This. At least put Puzo on there.

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>>9419128
Fuck you. I know you're joking but just fuck you.

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>The Last Question - Isaac Asimov
>a fucking three page short story

>>9419077
>he thinks the bible is ridiculous to include in a top 100 list
Ok, I usually don't let these reddit retards get to me, but that's legitimately triggering. Anyone who disregards the bible as one of the greatest pieces of literature should be rounded up and sent to re-education camps in Serbia.

>>9419077
guy thinks the Bible is a ridiculous inclusion before listing East of Eden, a book that couldn't exist without the Bible.

>>9418946
>Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams


If I could burn a book and all the people who love it, it would be this fucking piece of shit.

Or maybe I would use a cleaver.

>>9419144
Exactly.

>http://sonic.net/~rteeter/grtfad3.html

>The Lifetime Reading Plan by Clifton Fadiman

>A Preliminary Talk With the Reader
>"I have assumed that anyone who would read this book is already familiar with the Bible." — Fadiman

Also, the fucking retard listed EAST OF EDEN in this book, how the fuck is he able to understand the story's references to Cain and Abel, or EDEN? It's in the title.

Biblical literacy is the most important part of literary literacy.

>>9418957
the difference is that /lit/ reads them to tell everyone they are shit

>>9418991
What'd you get, and where'd you go?

>>9419077
>>9419100
>a user history that consists of posting on Pokemon, Professional Wrestling, Advice Animals, and Rick & Morty

Internet 'manliness' is a joke.

>>9419077
Maddox is a cuck

>>9419180
Here's the difference between Reddit and /lit/.

/lit/ reads the best books and we all get called faggots, retards, and kids for liking them. We have high quality but low praise. /lit/ is humbling.

Reddit reads the shittiest books on the planet and they call each other geniuses for liking them. They have low quality and high praise. Reddit is arrogant.

>>9419047
The indexes on that sonic site is much better than any individual list

>>9419202
I agree, but it's too much for someone just starting out.

A nice classic top ten or top 50 list is enough.

>>9418983
More or less the same

>>9419077
>It's always a mistake to overestimate Reddit's taste.

It's just the average normie taste though, i don't know why people treat reddit like it's some specific taste. It's one of the biggest sites on the net and /r/books is one of the biggest subreddits.

Of course it's going to default to entry level milquetoast works. The demographic is too big for anything else. Most aren't even interested in books, beyond a sort of cursory glance. Almost everytime it get's mentioned here and i go on there you will see a post on the front page about someone just getting into reading, or reading their first book as an adult.

It just seems kind of silly belittling them.

>>9419022
Is there a decent collection of the strips?

>>9419172
I unironically have to agree, Hitchiker's Guide is one of the main reasons cancerous nerd culture is so popular nowadays

>>9419219
They're arrogant retards and it's fun to laugh at them for being so.

>>9419222
Fantagraphic's large print Sundays. They're called "Krazy & Ignatz"

The best decade is the 1920s. Each book is one year. Get the black & white sundays before getting colour sundays or daily strips.

>>9418957
they actually don't?

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>>9419022
I just found out about this, published a few months ago.

>>9419239
So they collect all the strips? Somewhere I read that there is no complete collection...

>>9419271
His life and racial issues are secondary to me.

>>9419282
All the Sundays have been released. Still waiting on dailies.

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>>9418946
Are you sure they didn't mean before you turn 15?

>Dosty, Camus, and Aurelius on the same list as Calvin and Hobbes, The Phantom Tollbooth, and Steven King
Thanks Reddit

>>9418946
>https://autisticmercury.com/2014/05/04/no-25/
>The Stand

in all my years of reading, this book was the single biggest waste of my time.
I strongly encourage everyone to read *anything* else instead.
(You can listen to Anthrax's "Among the Living" to get the story, that's worth it)

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>all this hatred

list 5 books everyone should read then

>>9419481

5 books everyone should read? Well, reading is not for everyone, but 5 books that a reader should read:

The Bible
Plato's Complete Works
Shakespeare's Complete Works
Divine Comedy
Anna Karenina

>>9419481
IMO everyone should read at least 50 books in their lifetime so I can't really answer your question.

>>9418957
At a glace it's like maybe half and that's hardly relevant since there are some classics that are obviously make it on any list (Brothers Karamazov, The Stranger, etc). The top 100 list from /lit/ is also a pretty poor indicator of the actual taste here as it's hugely influenced by memes there's so little participation that it only takes like 4 votes to make it on. I have confidence that contributors on this board, at least those who actually read, wouldn't seriously propose the literal high-school curriculum mediocrity that makes up a majority of this list, let alone the, at best guilty pleasure, fluff like The Stand and Hitchhiker's Guide.

the "Religious Texts" part is hysterical. on some buried psychological level reddit recognizes that its taste is nonexistent, reducible only to the books forcibly heaped on them during school and by well-meaning relatives, but seeing the suffocatingly bland list laid out before them, they had no choice but to add "Religious Texts" to maintain some semblance of the worldliness they hoped to project in the first place. no one will ever read the quaran because reddit suggested it, but at the same time, the list wouldn't look "worthy" of taking seriously if it lacked the perfunctory gesture toward "Ancient History" and "Religion" and "Places Outside the Western World." so we have this little bluff in the form of "Religious Texts," an empty promise everyone will nod their head to without ever intending to even google what the religious text of Buddhism is called, but nonetheless something they can point to on the list and assure themselves that "look! it really covers all the bases! isn't great that whoever made this is so educated?"

The yellow wallpaper is my favorite short story ever

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>>9419525
If you could all ignore the fact that I used like twice in such retarded succession I'd really appreciate it.

>>9419534
You seem a bit too insecure. I can assure you that nobody noticed your mistake because nobody reads your posts anyway.

>>9419481

1. Pentateuch
2. Nevi'im
3. Ketuvim
4. New Testament
5. The Iliad

>>9419556
Should've put the Apocrypha instead of the Iliad.

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>>9419077
>questions why anyone should read the bible
>tells people to read east of eden

>>9419195
At the end of the day, though, you're all just nerds who get/got bullied and will never function as real humans.

>>9419517
Fixed it for you:

>The Iliad
>Plato's Complete Works (Oxford's Platonis Opera)
>Shakespeare's Complete Works
>Racine's Complete Works
>The Divine Comedy

>>9418946
>quran
Opinion dismissed right there
>night, maus
They couldn't pick one book about the Holocaust, what a surprise coming from (((reddit)))

>>9419077
>>9419100

Reddit users should have to wear a special identifying star on their clothes

>>9419481
The Fourth K
The Stand
Where Did The Towers Go
Dianetics
Crossfire

>>9418946
> all quiet on the western front
> not Storm of Steel
> (((Night)))
> Maus
>The Yellow Wallpaper
> hitchhikers
> Huck Fin
> Siddhartha

Weeeeeeeeew what a shit list

>>9419481
Ulysses
Gravity's Rainbow
Infinite Jest
Moby-Dick
Women and Men

>>9419595
To be fair if everyone read the Quran the public would be a lot more against Islam than it currently is.

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>>9418983

>>9418946
>The Yellow Wallpaper - Charlotte Perkins Gilman
Fuck this book, hated it
>The Stand - Stephen King
Ending was shit, but otherwise good King story.
>Maus - Art Spiegelman
Read it in comic form as a child. As well as the sequels. Meh.
>Religious Texts (Bible, The Quran, Shruti and others)
They didn't specify the fucking VERSION
>Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
A good laff, but not supposed to be in this list.
>Night - Elie Wiesel
Same as Maus but without pictures.

>>9418970
Can't believe Don Quixote wasn't on there. My pick for Shakespeare prob would've been The Tempest, but fuck me, right?

>>9418983
kek'd holy shit

>>9419077
Speaking of John Steinbeck, my lit teacher in high school wrote her masters paper thingy (fuck me whats the name) on why Steinbeck was the antichrist.

>>9419529
:) kys

>>9418946
I don't see anything wrong with it. Other than a couple childhood and king books, it's a completely standard best books list.

>>9419808
Meanwhile evangelists burn more bibles on accident then they actually read

>>9420505
I think you're looking for "thesis" there, friend.

>>9419481
The odyssey
War and peace
Quiet flows the Don
All quiet on the western front
Divine comedy

Also missing from the list:
>Snow Crash
>Ready Player One
>Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

>>9420505
>why Steinbeck was the antichrist

Go on

>>9420616
Hitchhikers is on the list.

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>no Homer
>no Paradise Lost
>no Don Quixote
>no Divine Comedy
>no Shakespeare
>no Tolstoy
>no Dickens
>no Joyce
>no Melville
Sad!

>>9418946
>no American Gods
swing and a miss

>>9419077
>The Prince
>heavy-handed
Jesus christ, has he even read it?

>>9419172
The fans and the subculture can be obnoxious, but I still enjoy the first four books.

>Infinite Jest
>Infinite Jest
>Infinite Jest
>Infinite Jest
>My diary, desu

Protip: read all the books that you like before you die

>>9419481
A canticle for Leibowitz
On certainty
Tao te Ching
The Canterbury Tales
The Odyssey

>>9419527
I think it's more like they wanted to put the Bible in, because it's important to the Western canon, but they couldn't put in the Bible without reference to all the other religious texts to be politically correct and tolerant :)

>>9418946
no
>pynchon
>david foster wallace
>italo calvino
>tolstoy
>fucking james joyce for christs sake
4chan can be a shithole but sometimes im genuinely glad i fell in with you guys rather than ending up as one of these redditors

>>9419573
Glad someone else on this goddamn board figured the irony in this

>>9420883
Tribalism anon.
Fuck the other tribe,ours is so much better.
But I don't blame you, I feel right at home here too.

>>9419586
Why are you here?
>BOOKS ARE FOR NERDS, NON-FAGGOT!

>>9418946
>Religious Texts
What, all that of them?

>>9421191
Books are for nerds? Reading is as much a basic human function as getting laid.

>>9420505
>The Tempest

Hamlet is the best Shakespearean work you fucking pleb

>>9418971
>Why are they so fucking stupid and yet so arrogant?
>How can someone be both elitist and plebeian?

Literally /lit/

Has anyone read On Nature by Parmenides? The surviving fragments, anyway. I'd argue that it's necessary reading, personally. At least for anyone interested in metaphysics or pre-Socratic philosophy.

>>9418971
Liking Dosto gives you more pseud and contrarian points. Tolstoy just can't compete.

>>9420793
If you never read any books then you never like any books.

>>9419195
>We have high quality
Ok kiddo

>>9421472
I'll have you know that my shitposting is world class

>>9419520
Which five do you consider the most relevant to suggest then?

>>9418946
>Religious Texts (Bible, The Quran, Shruti and others)
finally except what the fuck is the shruti

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>>9418946
where is anything by homer, plato or aristotle
>>9419077
>Some of the picks were ridiculous (The Bible?)

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>>9421522
>Platonic dialogues as anime

>>9418946
>Meditations - Marcus Aurelius
no one has actually read this and thought it was worthwhile
>the cunt of monte cristo by alexandre dumbass
no
>Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
>The Lord of the Rings - J.R.R.Tolkien
>The Last Question - Isaac Asimov
might as well add jurassic park (i love jurassic park to be fair)

>>9421506
>shruti
General term for Hindu dogmatic texts in Sanskrit

/lit/'s list:
Homer - The Illiad
Homer - The Odyssey
Plato - The Republic
Herodotus - The Histories
James Joyce - Ulysses
DFW - Infinite Jest
Thomas Pynchon - Gravity's Rainbow
Max Stirner - The Ego and his own
William Gaddis - The Recognitions
Roberto Bolaño - 2666
Cormac McCarthy - Blood Meridian
Herman Melville - Moby-Dick
Anonymous - My diary, desu

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>>9421571
>no bible
>not the letters of james joyce
>no nietzsche
inaccurate

>>9421584
it's a work in progress. Don't be angry

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>>9419481
Five books that every normie can and should read to be considered basically literate:

The Bible
Aurelius' Meditations
Aesop
Homer's Odyssey
Graves' The Greek Myths

And five more to be a good citizen.

Plato's Complete Works
Enchiridion of Epictetus
Apuleius' The Golden Ass
Campbell's Masks of God
Bernays' Propaganda

>>9421724
I'm surprised you're still posting after getting BTFO over the Gospel of Thomas. I'd have retired my trip in embarrassment.

>>9421767
Stop being a forum queer, anon. It was a good discussion.

>>9418946
me: a cool guy, big dick, lots of money
everyone else: huge nerd, thinks clitoris is a pokemon, owned