Hello /lit/, I have devised a simple system of moral philosophical

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The smart egoist knows that the enforcement morality and hierarchy are in his best interest

Oh, and if you think the four questions can be better altered to best define a moral philosophy, please speak up

>>9384792
SNTQ

>>9384792
SNTH

>>9384792
Isn't impossible for someone to be BUxx? Doesn't someone's finding moral values *objective* require by this very objectivity that the moral values are *necessary*? Or am I missing something here? It seems to me that where case 1 = B, case 2 must always = N.

>>9384878
It is not going to be a common belief, but I do not think it is impossible for someone to rebel against the God they believe in, whatever that god may be.

>>9384792
>Is there objective value and/or morality or are these things pure constructs?

The fact that they are constructs doesn't exclude the fact that they can be objective.

>>9384997
I don't see how that can be true at all. In order for a value to be objective you need an objective axiom with which to measure it by.

>>9384792
>egoist/hedonist

They are totally different things. You have demonstrated you know fuck all about philosophy. A hedonist could claim that they're spreading their philosophy for the benefit of others i.e. altruistically.

>>9385012
I'm referring to psychological hedonism/egoism

If a hedonist can do as you say, an egoist certainly can as well

>>9385028
But for an egoist to do it would be flatly contradictory: they would have to recognize that even if they claim they spread their philosophy to "benefit others" the outside benefit thereby derived must initially be to their (the egoist's) benefit. A self described egoist would be easily found out trying to make a claim to "pure" altruism, while the contradiction isn't as obvious when a hedonist makes this claim.

>>9385048
Both an egoist and a hedonist can recognize that helping others may be the best way to serve themselves in certain (many) situations. I'm not sure what the massive divide between egoism and hedonism is in your mind

>>9384792
BNTH masterrace reporting in.

>>9385056
I never said it was "massive," I said it was "total."

The hedonist says that helping others is pleasurable to me, and pleasure is the highest moral good, so I will help others. The egoist says that helping others benefits me, and there is no moral goodness in it, so I will cease helping others as soon as this aid stops benefiting me.

I do recognize that some branches of so called "egoism" (e.g. Objectivism) are just hedonism rephrased in that they replace the supposed moral good of pleasure with the moral good of self benefiting. To use the Objectivists again, they more or less mandate that a "true egoist" can't help others without material payment because that's somehow never egoistically beneficial. The actual egoist needs no moral underpinning for their selfishness: they are so selfish that they know they needn't justify this selfishness.

>>9385058
feelsgoodman

>>9384792
SNGQ.

Lit needs more socialists.

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>when a Q tries to talk to you

BNGH

prove me wrong nerds

>>9384792
XXXX god here

>>9385211
SNGH here
I'm you but with more arguing

>>9384792
1) S
2) N
3) T
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