Give me one example where a C doesn't just sound exactly like either an S or a K
>>9361896
more like dropping new MIXTAPE SOON AW YEAH
>he calls his fanbase 'fraserheads'
>ch
And they say the world is unjust
wait
>>9361896
Most examples are that, if you're not a big tone deaf baby.
>>9361896
wow not one C in this picture
cease
computer
>>9361932
>Sease
that's seize ?
cease is more like a 'ts'
>>9361938
Cease = Sea-ss (or more accurate siːs)
Seize = sea-zz (or more accurate siːz)
Dolce.
My example is sweet, but your a faggot and will whine it's not English so...
Cello.
Cello is a commonly used word in english, where the c is pronounced 'chuh'.
>>9361921
holy shit
aficionado
>>9361963
afisionado
The only unique (or at least distinctly so) example of a c is the 'ch' sound
boipucci
>>9361965
it's more like afishiando
But it's not really english anyway
Glacial
Efficient
>>9361981
Both can be replicated with an S
Are you people even saying these out loud?
>>9361989
>Efficient can be replicated with an s
more like sh desu
>>9361989
I don't know how they don't get it, honestly. Lit just lost a little bit of my respect.
>>9361995
The point is you can replicate the sound without a c
The only way to get enlish speakers to say C is to CZ
>>9361989
Are you?
Who the fuck pronounces 'glacial' 'glay-see-uhl'? 'Efficient' 'effi-see-uhnt'???
WASP cunt.
>>9361999
>exactly like either an S or a K
>>9362001
Or TS(Z)
cat
>>9361999
Is it?
>Give me one example where a C doesn't just sound exactly like either an S or a K
The 'c' in 'glacial', 'efficient', nor 'special' sound exactly like a 'k' or an 's'.
>>9362003
Yes, glacial is pronounced 'glay-si-uhl' and efficient IS pronounced 'ef-ish-uhnt'
I don't really care about your 'other' pronunciations
>>9362012
The c in both of those words can be replaced with an S. You may need to add an h in some cases to get it exactly(see: efficient), but the point is that it sounds incredibly close to either S or K in every case where it doesn't form a 'ch' sound.
Chthonic
>>9362020
>>9362023
Fancy attempt, but try actually saying it out loud
>the moment we learn anon has been saying 'kuh-thonic'
>>9362020
>glacial is pronounced 'glay-si-uhl'
It's more of a "glay-shh-uhl"
>>9362024
Czar
>>9362030
Maybe in some kind of American drawl
>>9362033
Are you telling me the 'Ts' in 'Tsar' (or the 'Cz' in 'Czar') is pronounced with a C sound?
Please educate me, because it sounds a lot like a 'tsa' or a 'za'.
>>9361963
afiksionado
>>9362044
You can replace the 'ci' with a 'si'
You can replace the 'c' with a 'sh'
I'm very open to you showing me how the C in these words are pronounced differently, but I have more trust in dictionaries than /lit/ at the moment.
>>9362042
No, I was giving an example of a C that doesn't sound like an S or a K
>>9362029
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>>9362042
yes it is an unambiguous c sound
>>9362044
>deleting your post
embarrassing
>>9362051
Oh right, sorry. So in these cases it can be replaced with a Z instead.
>>9362055
Please show me one(1) source where the pronunciation uses a 'C' sound
>>9362048
wut
>>9362085
He's just having some fun anon, loosen up
>>9361896
Such a challenge. Also check em.
>>9362100
oooOOOUUuuu
>>9362100
>>9361896
Cao Cao
prince
>>9362054
Kek
>>9361896
That's because C, S and K are letters not sounds. Paired with specific other letters in English they generate certain sounds. In other languages they are used differently.
Learn the International Phonetic Alphabet.
>>9361896
Give me one example where an S or a K don't just sound exactly like a C
>>9361896
3,000 years ago, Phoenician’s alphabet had “G” as the third letter. “C” wasn’t around yet. The Greeks copied their alphabet and brought it to Italy. The Etruscans there had no “G” sound, apparently. Their nearest sound to it was “K”. (So they didn’t need Greek’s third letter “G” [gamma]). They had “K” and “Q”. Sources show that the Etruscans kept gamma in third place in the alphabet but used it to represent the sound “k”. The shape of the letter went through changes, and the Etruscans stopped using the Greek name gamma and went to something similar to “kay”. They might have said the spelling was “C-E” (long e sound).
Romans, Latin speakers, probably didn’t like the Etruscan alphabet with three letters making a “K” sound and none for “G”. They made their own letter for “G” and used “C” more often than “K”. Still “C” only represented the “K” sound. (It’s interesting to note, according the book mentioned above, that Caesar was pronounced like “Kye-sar”.)
When did “C” start borrowing from “S”? In later Roman times. Everyday Latin speakers began to slur the Latin “C” before “I,e” and “Y” (vowels where the tongue is pushed forward) and making it sound like “ch”. This sound became part of languages such as French and Spanish etc. (languages arising from the dying Latin).
“C” in the Middle Ages sounded like “K” and “ch”. Italian’s soft “C” is “ch”. As for the other Romance languages, the sound disintegrated to “s”.
Remember reading about the Norman invasion of England in 1066? Those Normans brought their Medieval French there, and it mixed with Old English eventually melding into an interesting Middle English. So, most of our words with the soft “C” sound came from that Norman French. Our newer words like “cybernetics” follow those old rules.
>two watches
He'll be fine
Any language that isn't completely retarded (ie, not english)
>>9362100
Nise dubc
>>9362817
>Our newer words like “cybernetics” follow those old rules.
kybernetiks
>>9362020
Such an egregious instance of moving the goal posts.
Katowice
Krzyszkiewicz
Cangjie
If everyone ITT spent four minutes reading up on the International Phonetic Alphabet, this thread could have been avoided.
Cappuccino
>>9361896
>tfw a fraserhead
>>9363040
autism?
>>9361896
In English, C does not have a unique phoneme. Neither do Q or X. Can we
>/thread
now?
>>9361932
The ch sound can be made by an X
>>9361896
English is a bastard language so it doesn't really matter.
>>9361896
Child
Chloe
Chide
Retard
>>9363468
Yes. This is very silly question. Phonology is an interesting subject but it has to be approached with more specificity than "does this letter always sound like this other letter?".
>>9361896
Batch (clearly not an s sound)
Bach (the c is a W, the h is a K)
Brick (the c is silent, the k is a K)
ezpz
ricc thicc blacc nicca
>>9364851
You make an X sound and a CH sound with opposite sides of your mouth and the result is completely different for each one.
Think before you post bitx.
>>9366344
Bach - bah-k the c is an h not a w.
Brick - "brikk" would be pronounced the same way
>>9361896
Anything Italian in origin: Cello, Concerto, Crescendo
>>9361896
Chart
>>9361896
My favorite language is C.
>>9361896
In Czech c is pronounced as "tse".
>>9367108
Except if you're Chinese
>>9367118
>Bach - bah-k the c is an h not a w.
>>9366344
>Bach (the c is a W, the h is a K)
>People pronouncing Bach wit a K sound