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I've got two questions, /lit/friends
What are some philosophical works that need little to 0 knowledge from others works to understand?
pic related or unrelated? (to the first question?)
I'm really more interesnted in some new ideas, I know Plato is the basis, his dialogues just go on for so long, he could had made his points in a shorter way
already read theaetetus, that one was long but pretty straight forward
so the second question is (since everyone will tell me to start with the greeks) what are the essential plato works?
the "on sophists" or something like that was such a wank, I mean, yeah, socrates is a pretty clever guy, but I dont want to read a bunch of rethoric from the other guy, and they are just discussing ONE poem at this point
there most be more "important" dialogues than others, right?
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Well done, you have selected the greatest book ever written.
Remember to read the two Moore essays beforehand (a defence of common sense and proof of an external world)
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>>9251224
Descartes stuff
Humes stuff
Lockes stuff
Freges stuff
On certainty sure but you might not appreciate it as much
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>>9251234
>Well done, you have selected the greatest book ever written.
Do you honestly think that or are you just memeing?
I just want to feel that feel when you read about an idea you have thinked before but some guy a bunch of years before already thought of it and wrote it in a coherent way
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>>9251249
No, it is genuinely brilliant.
If you don't find it brilliant after reading it then you didn't get it.
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and hopefully are really short, didn't point that out in the OP
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>>9251272
ok i guess i will order it with my mom's credit card
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>>9251224
Pic better not be related. Dump that shit. Of course you don't need anything before reading it, but when it's done, you won't have read anything more either.
Regarding Plato, the Republic is not actually harder than other dialogues, it's just pretty long but contains ideas on various subjects. If you want something short, I'd say Gorgias. Gorgias also has the advantage of treating various subjects.
Other philosophical essays that need 0 to little knowledge ? I assume the questions implies that you may not be at ease with author whose prose is difficult, so Descartes' Meditations is a no. The Discourse is fine though. Hume is fine (Enquiries), Locke is fine (Second treatise).
I'd be prone to add Bataille's "The accursed share", for two reasons : it requires no knowledge (easy to read, not aimed at some specific philosopher etc.), but at the same time it's really a general theory of nature, society, man, well, a general theory of the world, both human and not. It's really thought-provoking.
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>>9251281
Just buy a second-hand copy from abebooks or download it from online, friend.
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>>9251234
>looks here's my hand
>external world exists
>QED
ebin
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