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Was he a good professor? What do we know about his classes? Are there any published first-hand accounts?
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>>9247917
is he ironically wearing that shirt?
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>>9248458
are you ironically living your life?
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>>9247917
>What do we know about his classes
he used his position as an excuse to get as much student pussy as he could.
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>>9248458
>he unironically hates the prequels
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>>9248458

haitng the prequels = Reddit
appreciating the prequels as a flawed, but new frontier of storytelling = 4chan
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>>9247917
he would probably claim that he sincerely enjoys star wars enough to wear that shirt. This is also why he thinks that he is a fraud.
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>>9248499
Except anything that is 4chan inevitably becomes adopted by at least some of Reddit. Now Reddit likes the prequels.
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>>9248477
most all profs do that kiddo
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>>9248477
Literally all profs.
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>>9248499
The prequels were objectively bad movies but props to Lucas for fleshing out the universe with multi-media and even attempting political intrigue(politicians manipulating wars to their advantage) in a space opera popcorn movie at the height of the war on terror
Still terribad though
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>>9247917
According to the DT Max bio he was a very involved and caring professor, he would try to see the good in every one of his student's writing and at one point cried for some reason related to a student, I wish I could tell where in the book exactly
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>>9248499
>storytelling
= reddlit
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Here is the unit outline for one of his courses. He seems very strict desu, which I suppose is good.
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>>9249096
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>>9249098
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>>9249096

>giving your students a statistical breakdown of your grading tendencies
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>>9247917
what the fuck is he wearing
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>>9247917
How did dfw get the audience pussy?
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>>9248499
buying into the expanded universe = literal middle schoolers

The prequels, especially the first two, are objectively bad films and not even fun to watch in a self-indulgent way
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>>9249109
what.... isn't this how its done everywhere?
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>>9249103
>English 102

Why was he teaching such a shit class?
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>>9247917
Eh.

He would be the type of professor that tries to juggle roles of mentor and cool-adult-guy. You know, the kind that lectures you on some issue on the basis of "been there, done that". You'd lose count of shoulder pats in two months, as he would give them generously in a manner that's both condenscending and flatterous. "Your generation might save this miserable blue ball, don't squander yourself". For some reason, he would feel as though his prime is already past him and all he can do is to be a role model. When somebody snaps and demands the academic dealings to be done in a respectful an official manner (after "Your essay is A when compared to the rest of the class, but you can do much better, so you don't pass), without the fog of familiarity, DFW is the type of prof to react violently. Any rejection of his soft authority is treason to him, purposeful sabotage.

You know the type of guy.
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>>9249414
I've read this before:thinking:
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>>9248477
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>>9247917
He sexually harassed his students
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>>9249453
That nervous anime arm grab
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>>9249363
Haven't seen this yet in any syllabus
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>>9249354
Revenge of the Sith is literally better than Return of the Jedi.
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>>9249449
Nobody saves my posts because they are not entertaining, I don't do it myself because that's humiliating, so each time this thread comes up, I have to write what I've written tens of times, except it becomes less expressive and shorter each iteration.
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he was lucky, he died before disney bought the franchise
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>>9249455

D-DELETE
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>>9249474
It's really good, even if you didn't write it
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>>9249398
>>9249363
Also his attendance policy is gay as fuck
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>>9248488
>He unironically hates sincerity
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>>9249398
He is probably the reason why the curriculum is full of shit and the description is a tiresome joke.
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>>9248499
prequels are borderline incompetent at times but ultimately charming, in that lucas' passion for his franchise is palpable. i'll take that over sleek corporate product any day.
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>>9247917
Someone posted his syllabus once, which read like an introduction to reddit
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>>9247917

I read his biography. He would hate students who tried to be "smart" in their writings, like the show-off po-mo he hated, and then advise them to write something about a kid who's pet bunny died. He once got in an argument with a student about this shit that was so intense he shoved him against a wall.
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>>9249453
I didn't know Courtney Love and Sarah Palin studied English.
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>>9247917
Wow that's a really cool shirt.
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Wow, what a sincere used diaper he has on his head.
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>>9249503
Unprincipled, uncontrolled and terrible
Just like his work
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>>9249503
Based DFW, showing those pseuds who's TOP DOG.
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>>9249518
>throwing your diaper across the room because you felt like it was not what liberation is, liberation is mounting the diaper; filling in as the turd and just doing it. just doing it
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>>9249503
>Try to be smart one more time kiddo
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>>9249503
Good Old Neon was literally inspired by that same kid. He send it to his parents originally and only published it because they approved of it so fervently. He knocked in his left lateral incisor iirc.
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Do you guys think you could take DFW in a fight?
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>>9247917

According to DFW in the Charlie Rose interview, nobody knew he was a famous author or that he wrote Infinite Jest; they just knew him as the "grammar nazi."
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>>9249109
Every single professor that I've ever had has done this.
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>>9249503
>I read his biography
how to waste your time: the manual
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>>9249556
>call him a fraud who's not as intelligent as he thinks he is and that he knows this
>he breaks down sobbing
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>>9249556
how tall was he?
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>>9249474
Very unrelated and not even very funny but I had a government exam for English and we had to write the essays on the computers using shitdows vista and the OS crashed halfway into my second essay on NATO policies and AGAIN the FOURTH essay I wrote so I had to shitpost each one a THIRD time with the disclaimer the computers crashed at the bottom and the marker thought they were decently impressive given the circumstance so I wrote similar anecdotes on all my crappy essays since. Fin. Also, you should write more aphorisms like that but then make a gigantic story with the rolodex of archetypes. Would purchase for a reasonable price given such "types" can be manipulated to flesh out cash for the right cause (which is in some way or another self-depreciative)
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>>9249556
Without a doubt
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Paul Thomas Anderson went to that school entirely to see him then left when he quit. My thoughts on PTA says that yes, he is good.
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>>9249577
6'3"
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>>9249497
yeah but even so if you have a very prominent author on staff shouldn't you have him teaching something a little more advanced than a freshman english class?
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Do you think DFW enjoyed popping his zits? What about his student's zits
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>>9249595
They knew he was shit and didn't want him to corrupt anyone
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>>9249463
where do you go to school?
you mean you have no idea how much your assignments are worth? sorry to make a big deal about this but this is baffling...
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>>9249503
he talks about this a lot, its no secret. he actually says that when HE was in college him and his classmates would write complex, self-reflexive, post-modern shit that they thought was so clever and rule-breaking and get marked down for it, not because they were bad writers but because it was boring as fuck to read. He said his professors made a point to prove that good writing has to be entertaining first, smart second.
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>>9249562

Hey it was a cool book. Really breaks the myth on that "sincere saint" bullshit his fanboys spread.
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>>9249652
As I read it he meant the breakdown on the bottom of the page, that is, how many people he's had as students and how many of them have gotten this and that grade
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>>9249666
oh right kek
anyway i've had professors do that, not all of them but a fair few. it's to give a rough indication of where you stand in relation to your peers. getting a high distinction means nothing if everyone got a high distinction.
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>>9249098
Literally high school tier
Would have dropped day 1
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>>9247917

not to shitpost, but i rly have never gotten more than a few chapter into any of his stuff

it bores me, and i srsly do not understand in what ways any of infinite jest is insightful or meaningful much less profound

inb4 "u hafta invest 2,000 pages before you'll get 'it' tho" -- No, I'm not going to just take ur word on this and read 2000 fucking pages or however ridiculously long it is to hope that, on the last sentence, I didn't just waste my time. That is my theory on why so many ppl sing it's praises, sunk cause fallacy makes them feel as if they have to believe it was great or they'll have to understand they just wasted so much fucking time
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>>9249103
What does the F stand for?
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>>9249687
Is this copypasta?
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How the fuck did he become a professor without a Phd?
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>>9249706
Now it is.
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>>9249474
I saved your post :3
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>>9247917
I took a creative nonfiction course with him at Ponoma back in '94. We weren't allowed to show anyone our essays outside of the class for some reason. He seemed naturally intelligent, didnt need to look at any notes or textbooks or prepare for any lectures, he just knew his stuff and was super casual.

I saw him talking to a girl on campus one day. He uncharacteristically wore a Fila sweatsuit, the kind that looks like it's made from the same material as parachutes, and trainer sneakers with a matching bandana. That was his pussy hunt outfit apparently. Several times a week, same outfit, I'd see him hitting on women in it. I once saw him wearing it while carrying an identical outfit from the dry cleaners, he had like 4 sets of same Fila sweatsuit.

I asked him about it in class and he said we aren't allowed to discuss anything unrelated to class while inside class, the same way we can't show anyone outside of class our essays. A student called out "but Dostoevsky isn't in this class and last week you talked about replicating his black tea obsession to test its affects on your own writing". Wallace stared blankly at the student with dead eyes for 30 seconds in dead silence then said "you just got knocked down a full letter grade. Any other smart asses? Didn't think so." and pushed up his glasses with his index finger.

I remember telling myself this guy will either be super successful or kill himself.
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>>9249717
this was pretty common back in the day, actually, and even today you can see it among adjuncts.
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>>9249737
I... actually believed you for a second, well-done.
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>>9249717

He's said in an interview that they just like it if you're a published author.
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>>9249737
KEK
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>>9249737
6/10 bretty gud
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>>9249717
Nowadays you can easily become a professor with just a master's. The English department head at my local state school is like that. In arts departments, where output doesn't necessarily mean publications, I've seen professors with just high school degrees.
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>>9249687
Certainly insightful. Not very meaningful, not very well written. But it's fun to read and insightful. It wouldn't have been a meme if big Dave didn't it make so clear he was trying so hard.
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>>9249752
>>9249754
Which parts were good? What could I improve to make this would-be pasta better? Thanks
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his short stories and essays are the best things he wrote.
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>>9249767
pasta isn't really meant to be believable. I'd simplify the "We weren't allowed to show anyone our essays outside of the class for some reason.". redundancy really isn't needed

the tracksuits bit is where you know it's bullshit, i.e. because it's funny. maybe make him more pathetic seeming? DFW being a playboy isn't really believable
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>>9249098
"Anybody gets to ask any question about any fiction-related issue she wants."

freudian slip perhaps?
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>>9249737
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>>9249779
His pussy hunting outfit being a Fila tracksuit is hilarious. I don't need to know he had four of them, the dry cleaning alone is hilarious.
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>>9249767
After the relative formality and elaborateness of the beginning, "That was his pussy hunt outfit apparently." made me laugh out loud
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>>9249767
I wouldn't add the 'didn't think so' part and would have probably redone that dialogue altogether, but as inane to his character "you just got knocked down a full letter grade" seems it actually works just because of how inane staring for 30 seconds is. That actually made me laugh the most. The pussy hunt thing is tasteful because it reflects a certain sexual innocence on you the writer desu so flaunt that knack. The other things are minor and you'll figure them out hitting post enough times.
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>>9249584
Source?
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>>9249805
>it reflects a certain sexual innocence
I got that too lmao
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http://htmlgiant.com/craft-notes/grammar-challenge/
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>>9249556
Nah. I can't beat retard strength
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>>9249767
>Wallace stared blankly at the student with dead eyes for 30 seconds in dead silence then said "you just got knocked down a full letter grade. Any other smart asses? Didn't think so." and pushed up his glasses with his index finger.

I lost hard
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>>9249828
>You have been entrusted to feed for your neighbor’s dog for a week while he (the neighbor) is out of town. The neighbor returns home; something has gone awry; you are questioned.

>“I fed the dog.”

>“Did you feed the parakeet?”

>“I fed only the dog.”

>“Did anyone else feed the dog?”

>“Only I fed the dog.”

>“Did you fondle/molest the dog?”

>“I only fed the dog!” [Here Wallace’s voice cracked funnily.]

fukn lol
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>>9249664
>breaks the myth on that "sincere saint" bullshit his fanboys spread
The saint david idea is only a strawman invented by DFW contrarians who want something to mock or criticize. Everyone knows DFW's a weird sperg and nobody tries to gloss over it.
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I took a creative nonfiction course with David a Foster Wallace at Ponoma back in '94. You were not to discuss essays with anyone outside of class for some reason, he kept it secretive. He seemed to know his stuff, didn't need any lecture notes or prep, was all from the hip, super casual.

I saw him talking to women on campus several times. He would uncharacteristically wear a full Fila sweatsuit that looked like it was made of the same material as parachutes, trainer sneakers and a matching bandana. Apparently this was his pussy hunt outfit. Every time I saw him, same outfit, several times a week. I'd see him wearing the sweatsuit while carrying dry cleaning of the same sweatsuit, he had like 4 sets of the same exact outfit.

I asked him about it in class one time and he said we're not allowed to discuss things from outside class, just like everything in class stays in class. A student called out "but Dostoevsky isn't part of this class and last week you talked for like 20 minutes about mimicking his tea obsession to test its affects on your own writing." DFW stared at him motionless for 30 seconds that felt much longer and said "I'm knocking you down a full letter grade for not raising your hand." That same student raised his hand immediately. DFW looked away, glared at me for bringing up the sweatsuit. "Any other smart asses?" He said, pushing up his glasses with his index finger.

I remember thinking he'd one day be a successful writer or flat out kill himself
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>>9249881
first one was better
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>>9249585
probably not then, but im on a cut. after my next bulk id chance it.
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>>9249881
Took all the wrong advice. This is worse.
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>>9249737
>>9249881
>Ponoma
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>>9249686
It's a 102.
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>>9249881
Great post
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>>9249915
>30 seconds that felt much longer
come on thats pretty funny
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>>9249414
Ive never had one of these types in Australian university. The more i hear, the more american "college" sounds like an extra few years of high school...
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>>9249897
>>9249881
I agree with this anon. The first one was better. It's more casual maybe?
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>>9249624
>>9249624
My gf likes popping my pimples, i dont really see the appeal when you do it to someone else...
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>>9249954
I remember this being described is a Bukowski book. Always seemed really disgusting to me.
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>>9249098
>You are FORBIDDEN to keep yourself from asking a question or making a comment because you fear it will sound stupid
d'awww
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>>9249737
thats bullshit but i believe it
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>>9249946

He's bullshitting. I got a master's degree and never encountered a professor like this. You probably won't even interact with most of your professors during the gen ed/intro to major classes anyways.
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>>9247917
Thank you so goddamn much OP I was looking for that picture for half a year
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>>9249968
not as disgusting as leaving a festering blob of pus on your face
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>>9249585
more like 6', if that. he was shorter than Franzen who is supposedly 6'2"
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>>9250152

Post rare Daves.
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>>9250261
Is Frazen reaching up his ass or something? Is that why David's right hand looks like it's withering?
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>>9250255
nm i could take the king of manlets
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>>9249103
Jesus, he was teaching Jackie Collins and Mary Higgins Clark?
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>>9249098
>she wants
hahahahahaha

that's how he got 'em
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>>9249737
>That was his pussy hunt outfit apparently
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>>9249737
this is what i come to /lit/ for
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>>9249779
>DFW being a playboy isn't really believable
but he actually was. "audience pussy" isn't just a meme, any time he did a reading he would try to get laid with his fans. also fucked a bunch of other writers like the woman who wrote prozac nation and of course mary karr. a lot of people who knew him well thought he was a chauvinist. all this imo makes the fila suit thing even funnier
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>>9250347
That comment I found strange as well. Audience pussy is so deeply engrained here.
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>>9249453
I wouldnt mind having that blonde in my audience if you read me
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>>9249453
So this...is the power...of David "Audience Pussy" Foster Wallace
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>>9250255
coroner's report lists him at 6'5, dumb ass. do you think he stretched 5 inches from a noose?
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>>9249453
>>9250261
Tell me about David. Why does he grab the arm?
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>>9249737
>>>924791
I live down the street from where he lived, you still in Claremont?
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>>9250368
probably covers the needlemarks

unironically though, what did dfw use, exactly?
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>>9250375
He had the most problems with alcohol and smoked copious amounts of weed. As far as I know he didn't use much hard drugs. And of course he was on antidepressants too, primarily Nardil.
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>>9249354
They're very fun to watch, don't kid yourself. You love episode 2.
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>>9249805
very wrong; the "didn't think so." part was objectively great.
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>>9249737
this is the new electrical infetterence pasta
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>>9249737
fucking fantastic aha
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>>9250496
>>9250491
Hasn't this been around for quite some time?
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I fell in love with DFW reading his essay on attending the annual Academy Awards for porn films. His description of the "strange and traumatic" experience of standing at a urinal in the restroom of the awards show surrounded by extremely well-endowed male porn stars is priceless.

I guess that's the thing with Wallace: He notices things and describes them perfectly. In that respect, I think of him like Shakespeare. Once he writes on a topic, he sets the bar for all others. Wallace didn't care whether he used a ridiculously arcane term or a common profanity. His quest was always to find the perfect descriptive word or phrase. Maybe he didn't always succeed, but he succeeded more often than not. And when he got it, he nailed it.
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>>9250261
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>>9248458
Of course. Everything he ever did he did ironically.
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>>9249098
>be DFW
>struggle with depression for your whole life

>you're still adamant in punishing people for not attending his classes

I wonder how many depressed/bipolar students have either killed themselves or quit unviersity cause of DFW's policies
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>>9250261

Why does Zadie look so disgusted, bros?
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>>9249098
This is English 102?? Yeah, would never take this.
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>>9248458
>>9251746

not really ironically

just to fit in

although the shirt itself is ironic in a way
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>>9248499

saying hating the prequels = reddit = reddit
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>>9249474

Lel
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>>9249662
>entertaining first, smart second

Isn't writing primarily supposed to be meaningful!?
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>>9251944
There is good intelligent and there is reading scientific articles about the composition of egyptian tombs.
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>>9251950
But my point is that, writing should be meaningful first, entertaining second. To the extent the writing is "smart" is should be in service of those two goals.
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>>9251958
No. The primary point of literature is aesthetic beauty. Works reach aesthetic beauty through intellectuality, but the point is still it being enjoyable.
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>>9251967
Well, we disagree my friend.
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the real question:
would you rather attend a semester with Wallace or Land?
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>>9247917
Why does he wear the bandanna?
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>>9252036
Apparently Land used to jump around the classroom in a type of 'active lived-out philosophy' style. Sounds intriguing to me...
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>>9252036
Land without a doubt

any more where that gif came from?
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>>9252110
Here man!
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>>9249098
Dropping grade by 1 whole letter is fucked desu. Is this normal for America or something?
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>>9253105
I'm not sure but if I didn't drop the class on that embarrassing reading list I would have dropped it upon reading his attendance policy.
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>>9251642
Why do they look like two brothers who are in a perky noise band together?

I want to punch them both in their ovaries.
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>>9250261
Who the fuck are Crutches, Mysterio and Slick Rick?

Also Eugenides looks as annoying as he writes.
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>>9249500

This. The new movies are made for the TV generation and it's nauseating how banal they feel.

DFW would have agreed, I'm sure.
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>>9251967

>The primary point of literature is aesthetic beauty

I disagree too but not in all cases. I think cryptic literature needs to be grounded in meaning otherwise it's dismissable. You can't go around writing Gravity's Rainbow if you aren't writing something with valuable truths scattered somewhere inside.

DFW makes a good point by implying a less talented (or knowledgeable) writer should concern themselves more with sincere ideas rather than cryptic messages. So yes, that would probably mean looking to achieve aesthetic beauty.
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>>9249584

Not true. PTA happened to have him as a teacher, and he turned out to be his favourite teacher. He did not go specifically for DFW. This is discussed on the WTF Podcast.
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>>9249503
>He once got in an argument with a student about this shit that was so intense he shoved him against a wall.
>>9249551

Source??
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>>9253264
>pta has met 2/3 of the meme trio
Has any human met all three?
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>>9251900
underrated post
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>>9249780
no, just a gay SJW way of standin up for womens RIGHTS!
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>>9249103
>narcotizing
>sedulous

jesus what a pseud
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>>9251944
>Isn't writing primarily supposed to be meaningful!?
kek no. you need to walk before you can run, man
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>>9253730
Sedulous is such an excellent word. On my favorite page of any essay.
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>>9249968
Saw it referenced in one of R. Crumb's comics.

I mean it's fucking disgusting, but it's also true intimacy
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>>9249687
I agree with you, but I can tell from the way you write that you're a dumbass
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>>9249828
fuck he was so gay in everything he did. that caps passage about suing people who failed to teach you those pedantic rules is so corny and unfunny. fuck you dave..

NO YOU'RE RIGHT,

"She didn't seem ever to stop talking" sounds SO MUCH BETTER than "she never seemed to stop talking"
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>>9250870
are you joking man? it's shit like this which is the exact reason DFW sucks as an author, his needlessly complicated way of describing simple things. Instead of "strange and traumatic" (which is definitely an exaggeration, not to mention redundant), he could've just said that it was "uncomfortable." the same message would have gotten across, dave standing and trying not to lose hold of his tiny dick while surrounded by BBC, and it wouldn't have that insufferable twee vibe that he gives off with everything he says
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>>9253738
why not just say diligent?
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>>9253802
lol
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>>9249103
Ugh...

Jackie Collins
Thomas Harris
Stephen King

You must read each work twice, and he's trying to show you how to read them 'deaply' to 'come up with interesting insights'. Jup, dickass teacher if I ever saw one.
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>>9253105
I agree that it is unusually harsh and it seems ducked to me as an non-American who lives an hour from his campus, and works in between attending classes, and for whom which time is a valuable resource BUT if you did LIVE on campus and also did not work, as is the norm in a lot of American colleges from what understand... what excuse do you have to not attend classes, and to not attend them on time?
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>>9254278
Your head is so fucked.
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>>9249096
>In-Class Participation 15%
it'll be a shame if anxiety attacked buddy
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>>9254282
That's pretty rude. In context it's a little different to miss Dave F.'s class than your ordinary roody-poo's.
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>>9254521
If you had an anxiety attack the very first person on earth you'd want to go to is DFW though is his logic.
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>>9254521
In-class participation is 10% in all my university classes. More and more faculties are moving to online-participation in order to accommodate for 'shy' people who don't like to speak up in class.

But I'm sorry. You're an university. Fucking speak up. Learn to come out of your shell. You're not telling me that 90% of my class has a debilitating anxiety disorder, they just to toughen up and be less self-conscious. If you can't do that now at university, you better learn to do it because you wont survive in the workplace. You're an adult. Speak up!
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>>9254701
I'm not shy. I just really don't want to talk to you in particular. I certainly don't even want to attend a class where you read books written by Stephen King.
Also, you seem like an ignorant little shit.
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>>9254716

The person you're responding to is 100% right, and you're coming off as rude and immature. In real life we have to talk to strangers sometimes, it's part of being an adult. If you don't want to talk to people who aren't on some sort of pre-approved list don't go to university.
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>>9254701
I'm a confident quasi-Chad (comparatively to this board, which I assume is full of perma-virgins) and fucking hate speaking in front of a class. It's probably hereditary, since my dad has the same phobia. I'll just go to a public speaking coach or something.
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>>9247917
Unlike the other faggot in this thread, I actually did have a creative writing class with DFW. He was a very casual and laid back teacher, and the stuff about students writing pomo garbage is true: he hated it. There was one guy in the class who was renowned for it; the day after we had to hand in a piece of creative writing, Dave came into the class and just stood at the front for about 5 minutes without saying a word. After the long and awkward silence he said three names and got them to come to the front of the class. These students were the paragon of the oversocialized, "I think i'm smarter than everybody else here because my parents are both professors and I went to a good school and i've pretty much read every major piece of pomo fiction that is worth it's weight" type that have become a staple in any kind of revered educational institution across America. Anyway, he made them all get up in front of the class; he handed all 3 of them a copy of Raymond Carver's "What We Talk About When We Talk About Love", a book Dave enjoyed for it's economy of words but eventually grew to slowly dislike for the avant-garde editing style of Gordon Lish that he felt robbed most of the pieces of their "sincere emotional core" that is present in his later work, this is what he said. Then he said to the rest of the class after the three he called to the front were up at the front of the class: "I hate to do this to you guys, and waste your parents money, but for today's class I'm going to get these guys to stand in front of everybody and read, in unison, Carver's 'I could see the smallest things', over and over until class is over, I think they know why, and I think you all know why". He just sat back in his chair, and told a girl sitting a few seats down from me to "tap him on the shoulder if they stop, or are out of sync, otherwise everybody in the class would lose a whole letter grade on the last piece of writing they handed in", then he put his walkman in his ears and proceeded to turn up the volume as loud as it would go, and set up a tape recorder on his desk that he said he would "be listening to later". I was sitting in the front row, and I can tell you guys, I will never, ever forget that lesson. All I could hear was these three annoying middle class brats who have sailed through life on their parents money and knowledge and connections, reading, in unison a Carver short story. You could almost hear the dread and humiliation in their stomachs, everybody could, they read that story in unison for the rest of the class, everybody was watching and making sure they did not slip up or stop, everybody was frowning, the hate and mixed confusion in their eyes was something I'll never forget. All I could see and feel was that, all while Dave was listening to Pearl Jam's 'TEN' on his shitty old walkman.
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>>9255203
haha i hate pseuds too dude!
DFW initiating these stories makes me sick.
No one would be humiliated by doing this.
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>>9249109
Every class I've ever taken does this.
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>>9255231
Thanks for being the seventeenth person to say so.
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>>9255203
What's so special abut that short story?

I never read Carver (I'm not American).
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>>9255203
do you live in claremont?
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>>9255248
>I never read Carver (I'm not American).
And I thought this thread couldn't get worse.
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>tfw my sister attends pomona and she has no idea that DFW ever existed.

She's a math genius , but really bad at reading and writing.
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>>9255248
here, why don't you read it?

http://chrismart.byethost15.com/Materials/UOD/LEVEL_6/Creative%20Practice%203/LA/readings/17.%20I%20Could%20See%20The%20Smallest%20Things.html?i=1
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>>9248488
>>9248499
>>9249500
Anyone who legitimately thinks the prequels are in anyway redeemable needs to watch the Plinkett reviews.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI&list=PL5919C8DE6F720A2D
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>>9251847
She's forced to hang out with insicure beta males, what do you think
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>>9253794
>everyone should write Vice articles
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>>9255365
Tell me more about your sister, Anon.
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DAVID FOSTER WALLACE WAS A REPRESSED TRANSGENDER WOMAN

So now you all know.
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>>9255203
>Emotional abuse is ok if they wrote something too smart! Smart and complex writing is only good if I do it!
Yeah i think that's how he would have behaved
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Why did he kill himself?
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>>9256719

watch the movie 'the end of the tour'
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>>9247917
he slept with many of the female students, so I guess yeah he took a great interest in his students.
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>>9256719
read Infinite Jest
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>>9256719
>>9256723

more importantly read "Good Old Neon"

seems to pretty much sum up what were probably a lot of his thoughts before he did it
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>>9255682
I'm scared that you will know who she is... lol.
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>>9256719
He's not called DFCMW for no reason.
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>>9251900
i post like this

nonchalantly

it gives me an air of importance while also looking cool at the same time
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>>9250355
Reading you loud and clear, Incster.
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>>9247917
I can just imagine how much of a douche professor he is
I wonder how many times we wrote "well written, but not what I was looking for" on essays
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>>9249096
I wonder who were the two mother fuckers who received an A+ from God Himself.
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>>9250261
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>>9255203
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>>9249881
It feels robotic.
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>>9257827
two hot sluts who wrote trash but big dave was tryna get sum
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>>9255395
Thanks, can you explain the significance of the story?
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