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How do I into Nietzsche? Seems like there's a lot of misconceptions

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How do I into Nietzsche?

Seems like there's a lot of misconceptions surrounding this guy even within the communities of people who really enjoy his works.


Is there any particular piece of his I should begin reading first? Just curious what you guys think.
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On the Genealogy of Morality
Lecture series on the book: https://youtu.be/2fTnEB_r_6Q

Get the Basic Writings of Nietzsche translated by Walter Kaufmann. It's in there and you also get a few of his other major books. Another good book to get is The Portable Nietzsche translated by the same guy.
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>>9158737
start with Beyond Good and Evil
it was written specifically as an introductory to his philosophy
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>>9158767
>>9158757
Beyond Good and Evil is also in the Basic Writings book. If you get the Portable Nietzsche and the Basic Writings you will have the great bulk of his work.
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>>9158767
Beyond Good and Evil would be a good place to start too. Maybe it would be cool to start with Beyond Good and Evil and make your way in order to Ecce Homo/Nietzsche contra Wagner. Then after you finish his later philosophy, start from The Birth of Tragedy and work your way to Zarathustra.
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>>9158778
Interesting strategy. What's your thinking behind this? I read his stuff chronologically so I'm curious. You seem to outline the normal trajectory of people interested in Nietzsche (get into his middle and late stuff and only after that explore the early stuff).
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>>9158784
Just think the later stuff is more interesting, especially if he's new to you. And I like the idea of saving Zarathustra to the very end. Also, some of the middle works are more expensive to buy and it's easier to get the two volumes I mentioned, which cover all of the late stuff.
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>>9158757
are you a certain british lad?
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>>9158815
Solid reasoning. You're right about the middle works. Kaufmann has really sparse selections from them. Hollingdale has really good translations of them with the Cambridge UP but they're pretty expensive.
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>>9158815
Have you read The Will to Power? I'm conflicted in recommending it and I always have to give "the talk" about its origin, but there's some great stuff in there. Maybe like the early/middle work that can be recommended if someone wants more after reading the late stuff.
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>>9158831
Yeah, I've read almost everything but it's been a couple of years, some books several times, except the very end of Human, All Too Human because I forgot to bring my book inside and it got rained on. Thinking about rereading all of his works in order from the beginning. Might even learn German.
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>>9158841
>it got rained on
you are!
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Another cool place to start might be Philosophy in the Tragic Age of the Greeks.
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>>9158854
This is supplemented really well by the volume Philosophy and Truth (admittedly a collection of unpublished notes), but I don't know if I would recommend either of them to someone without exposure to Nietzsche's later stuff OR the Greeks
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>>9158849
>Attention seeking faggot.

Even with those slave genes, you're not fooling anyone with that fedora and indoor sunglasses.
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Another thing Nietzsche recommends to understand his philosophy is to read all of the prefaces in order. Most of them were written really late and added on later.
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>>9158864
like, just the prefaces?
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>>9158910
After reading the main texts, obviously. The prefaces frame and clarify the project.
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>>9158737
Start with Untimely Meditations
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>>9158925
read Ecce Homo after reading the main texts
it's a fucking riot
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>>9158910
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>>9158737
Start with Twilight of the Idols, then BG&E. Nietzsche really is one of those philosophers where you should have read some of the philosophers he is referencing prior to starting him though (e.g. Plato). I know everyone wants to hop right into him b/c *le edgy nihilist* misconception, but you're not really doing yourself any favors by taking this approach.
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>>9158767
Agree

>>9158927
Weird, but after all I only read the second one. Is the first one interesting ? It's the one about David Strauss, right - who's this guy ? And what about the 3rd and 4th meditations ?

>>9159424
Also agree, however the Twilight of Idols is more something where OP could read 5-6 pages whenever he wants, without necessarily read the whole as a complete essay (contrary to Beyond good and evil).
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>>9158737
He constantly references his earlier work and expects you to fucking know it so just read them in the order of publication
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>>9158737
>How do I into Nietzsche?
Understand that his own opinions changed and evolved as he wrote. That's the source of half the confusion. That and his opportunist whore sister.
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Seriously, not a single person said start with Aristotle? are you all fucking retarded?
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>>9158827
you can find pdfs of both online, just Google them
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>>9159516
This, but also Spinoza, which is, apart from Schopenhauer, Nietzsche's biggest inspiration.
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>>9158737
Buy any book you choose. Proceed to shit inside of it. Close said book.
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>>9159581
Don't use, so many, commas
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Go to http://maddox.xmission.com/ and replace "hippies" with "Socialist", "Apple" with "Morality", and "Ubermensch" with "pirate". Add your own random purple prose now and again. Stop when it gets tiresome.

You're finished Nietzsche. Flush Nietzsche.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpA4ldGoHRQ
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>>9161533

Uh I mean "pirate" with "Ubermensch".
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Could a kind anon share that Nietzsche mspaint comic about:

I AM THE WARRIOR OF MY DAYDREAMS!
THAT HURTS MY FEELINGS!
etc.?
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>>9161573
faggot ass cowboy.
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>>9158737


The Will to Power
It's my favorite.

>inb4 'it is incomplete and just notes'
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Which of Aristotle's works are most essential as prep for Nietzsche?
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Just like Nietzsche himself recommended: read a philosopher from his earlier works to his latest ones. Watch the philosopher change.
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You know, it's not that there are "misconceptions" about this work, I don't think that's a good way of thinking about this. It's more to the fact that people interpret him through various ways. Even those who know a fuck ton about Nietzsche disagree about Nietzsche. Who's to say who is right and who is misconceiving him?
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>>9163588
You should have read at least 4 of Aristotles major works before embarking on philosophy.
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>>9163588
>>9163958
Definitely bullshit, you don't need Aristotle in order to Nietzsche. Nietzsche himself doesn't care much about Aristotle.
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