>having discussion
>friend off handedly mentions "you read ayn rand, you're opinion is meaningless, you are a child"
>others clap
can someone explain why ayn rand is bad?
>>9081385
We could, but we would have to do it veeery slooowly
>muh a=a
>poor reading of aristotle
>even worse reading of nietzsche
>muh bootstraps
Whoever your friend is, he has it right. Save your soul and abandon whatever childish cognitive dissonances led you to take a single word of hers seriously.
There are two novels that can transform a bookish 14-year-kid’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish daydream that can lead to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood in which large chunks of the day are spent inventing ways to make real life more like a fantasy novel. The other is a book about orcs.
Let me pontificate shortly, for your edification.
>>9081424
I think
>>9081420
Is actually a copied reddit post, the image gets posted from time to time.
The ironic reddit meming gets tiring, but its not as bad as this
>>9081410.
This is unequivocally, unironically reddit.
The typical 4chan post is contrarian and autism all bundled up. The redditor critiques, austicly yet somehow earnestly. They genuinely believe what they are saying has value, and offer no semblance of why they think that.
Even the worst /pol/ poster has the latest dank meme to accompany their idiocy, some ingenuously bad logic ad science from the late 19th century perhaps.
But redditposting such as this is meant to leave the reader with the idea that the OP IS actually in the right, having been well seasoned by the constant bickering and nitpicking that naturally ensues an un-anonymous board culture. There defenses are learned, arguments sharpened, and fallacies minimized.
Then they set out to right the world they now see so clearly, for how could they experience something new? Having browsed /r/gore and /r/s4s they are well equipped to handle these blathering idiots.
"Abandon whatever childish cognitive dissonances led you to..."
We see here the reason anon-culture is somewhat more pleasant. It does not make any claims. It is the epitome of NEET. It read Nietzsche and laughed , realizing that ultimately he may be wrong, and that other works may be out there. It is the search for truth among shitposts that is worth effort, not the haphazard dismissal of an author's work simply because of poor writing or philosophical construction. Because here lads, the ride never ends. Once you've been introduced to the reality of a world where you can be wrong, all your days will be spent here looking for that next post that will sooth what has become your addiction, as you browse through the catalog one more time before bed.
>or not
>you read the whole post lmao baka tbqchwyf
>>9081493
Wtf
Rand just isn't that great of a writer, desu. Her novels are just a vehicle for her shitty ideas, and the characters are just cringeworthy. At one point, Rand had to have sad there and imagined Humphrey Bogart as a good stand-in for Howard Roark.
Rand is a testament to a time in American letters when quality control maybe wasn't so exacting.
>>9081385
>can someone explain why ayn rand is bad?
she is a very weak philosopher who is celebrated by her followers as a great philosopher. this is because either (a) they know very little about philosophy outside of rand and so don't understand how weak her arguments are, or (b) they are so committed, ideologically, to her positions, that they don't care that her arguments for those positions are very weak or confused
here is a proper philosopher, robert nozick (who is also a small government, pro-capitalist, libertarian type, so there is no ideological bias here) explaining some of the problems with her most fundamental arguments:
http://www.nowandfutures.com/large/On-the-Randian-Argument-Nozick.pdf
>>9081493
>this isn't a copypasta
>he genuinely got so offended by people not agreeing with his bad opinion that he wrote this entire post
>he unironically calls others autism in the midst of a giant sperg out
How many non-Boomers would have even heard of Ayn Rand if not for BioShock?
>>9081385
Her fiction is forced and boring. She doesn't write beautiful prose. Her characters aren't well developed or engaging. Nearly everything in her fiction is a mouthpiece for her philosophy.
The only exception I can think of in The Fountainhead is when the old friend goes to the main character and shows him his art, and the main character says "It's too late". It was brief and had nothing to do with her philosophy. It was a good moment in a sea of shit.
Her philosophy is just poorly thought out. Descriptive egoism doesn't necessarily lead to perspective egoism. There, it's done.
>>9081534
>he doesn't see the classic redditisms laced throughout, trying to underhandly employ humor
>he doesn't see it as third perspective meta irony shitposting
TFW when no-one appreciates your shit
>tfw to intelligent too p..plz respond
>>9081566
That doesn't look like a brain, it just looks like everything is cover in hair.