>Lol my mom dressed me up in girls' clothes when I was

Because we're all fuckin' pussies that are just trying to hide under a veil of machismo, so it's pretty easy to relate.

No?

It was actually quite intentional, pleb retard.

I don't like him, in fact he is the only academically approved author I actually hate and I hate him because of his retarded """""minimalism""""".

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>>9068360
That pic always reminds me of this

Kek. I thought you were talking about lovecraft

>>9068360
>Lol my mum treated me to what was relatively normal for the time I lived in and now everyone interprets the things I like to do, which tens of thousands of other people enjoy, to be compensating for a normal upbringing... somehow.
Fixed it for (you).

>>9068866
Yeah it was pretty normal but it's unquestionable that Hemingway completely overreacted, he always said he hated his mothers and acted like fucking Popeye.

>>9068360
It's Hemmingway, retard.

>>9068906
it isn't tho (or 'tis a maymay)

>>9068922
*Hemmmingway

Does anyone have interesting reading or anecdotes about when Fitzgerald and Hemingway hanging out and being bros4life?

Kinda off topic but
>mom used to french kiss me until I was 4
>suppress the memory for 20 years
>finally remember it

I'm 99% sure that this is why I'm borderline asexual. Am I dumb for thinking this?

>>9068947
that never happened

we dont

>>9068953
I swear to god, it's true.
I remember one day, I was about 4 or 5, she tongue kissed me and then told me ''this was the last time we did it''. I also remember that we shared often food. One of us would chew some food, and then we would kiss and share it. It may sound hot to you, but for me it's extremely fucked up, since it directly conflicts every other memory I've had of my mom.

I know it sounds like a doujinshi but I'm being 100% honest here, and I honestly don't know what to do with this memory.

>>9068969
the fuck

>>9069003
I know, I've had you're same reaction magnified 1000 times when I actually remembered that shit.

>>9069026
>>9068969
maybe it was a dream you had that is beginning to get confused with memory? i've had that happen

>>9068969
Hot.

>>9069026
Sorry bro, that's messed up. You ought to see a psychoanalyst or therapist or something.

>>9068969
write a book i'll buy it

>>9069042
>maybe it was a dream you had that is beginning to get confused with memory? i've had that happen
I'm 100% sure that it wasn't a dream. If that counts, my mom always forced me to sleep with her (nothing sexual, she would just cuddle me all night long), and she always hug and kiss me on the cheeks extremely often. I stopped sleeping with her and enjoying all that shit when I hit puberty, it was way too creepy for me, yet to this day she always ask me to partake in those old behaviours. Hell, I'm 25 and she asked me 2 weeks ago to sleep and cuddle with her.
It's not as fucked up as frenchkising your 3 years old son, but it's almost there.

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>>9068969
>inb4 your mom was a bird

>>9069077
You should fuck her.

A birb th whole tiem

>>9069077
That is pretty weird.

>>9069084
She is very attractive, but honestly I'm phisically unable to find her sexually arousing, her becoming disgusting as soon as I start thinking about her sexually is hard-coded in my brain.

>>9069096
Eh, talking about it makes me sick.

>>9069077
Did your father leave the family when you were at an early age? This type of shit happens when the father leaves and the mother tries to use the son as a replacement husband (emotionally, not literally). It's really fucked up.

>>9069101
You think that now, but when the fucking actually starts, you'll be okay and find a way to enjoy it. Like me, I'm gay and have at times had sex with women. I felt the same way, but after it started I enjoyed it. Don't be a homophobic pussy, Anon. Fuck your mom.

>>9069110
They divorced when I was 12, but my father has always been absent from our lives (he is an entrepreneur and worked all day long).
I don't remember him ever seeing this.

>>9069111
I won't fuck my mom, mate. It goes against everything I believe in, and even from a purely utilitarian point of view it's a potentially life-ruining experience, that could easily drive me to suicide.

>>9069118
>They divorced when I was 12, but my father has always been absent from our lives (he is an entrepreneur and worked all day long


Yeah that is almost certainly the reason for your mother's behavior. I'm sorry to say it, but your mother basically abused you. I had a similar but much less severe relationship with my mother myself. It's a shitty situation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enmeshment

>>9069101
Post pics please, im begging you, i have to know

>>9069118
It'd give you writing material. Think how much more exciting it would make your biography, and hence how much more marketable you'll be. This is your moment, Anon. This is when you decide whether you're truly an artist.

I won't tell to what to do fuck your mom, but I will say, whatever decision you make, make it a courageous one. Fuck your mom.

>>9068922
It's a Hemmingmaymay

>>9069118
your mom is asian?

it is normal for moms (even more for single moms) to try to be intimate with the only child, because they try to be less self absorbed.
the other way for them is to despise the only child for being a drag on their social life and their pathetic life without a man.

>>9069118
>purely utilitarian

What did he mean by this?

>>9069146
It means he wants it and knows he wants it.

>>9068938
a moveable feast

>>9069143
>it is normal for moms (even more for single moms) to try to be intimate with the only child, because they try to be less self absorbed.

It's not because they try to be less self absorbed.

see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enmeshment


>Enmeshment was also used by John Bradshaw to describe a state of cross-generational bonding within a family, whereby a child (normally of the opposite sex) becomes a surrogate spouse for their mother or father.

It's most definitely some oedipal shit.

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>>9068360
>>Lol my mom dressed me up in girls' clothes when I was 3 years old
Well, I'm not a specialist on Hemingway, but the guy that was actually dressed an educated as a girl was Rilke.

>>9068969
>>9069077
>4chan

>>9069130
What should I do about it? Meet a therapist?
When it comes to my sexual presence I'm a disaster, as I've said earlier I'm on the brink of asexuality. I can find female bodies attractive, but I truly don't understand people who are obsessed by it, and every sort of attempt at romance looks to me as a waste of time. I'm truly not interested in sex. Can this be linked to what my mom did to me?

>>9069131
She's a minor celebrity in the city I live in, I really can't.

>>9069135
I'm a musician, so that bucket of feelings could not help me in the slightest, especially since I can already channel my own depression into my art.

>>9069143
She's middle eastern, but has lived in Continental Europe for the last 25 years (she's 41).

>>9069146
It means that even when I consider all the pleasure involved it's not worth it, since the coitus would be counterbalanced by a traumatic psychological experience.

>>9069232
bruh you're a walking art film waiting to happen. just fuck her and start taking heroin, then steal a police car or something.

>>9069232
Yes you really should see a therapist, and your attitude towards sex is certainly linked in some way especially if this

>when I consider all the pleasure involved it's not worth it, since the coitus would be counterbalanced by a traumatic psychological experience.

is true.

>>9069251
>>when I consider all the pleasure involved it's not worth it, since the coitus would be counterbalanced by a traumatic psychological experience.

This wasn't meant to describe sex in general, only what having sex with my mom would be like.

When it comes to sex I'm just uninterested. Also I have some sort of phobia for vaginas. While I like female bodies as soon as I see a vagina I have to look away, or cover it with my hands.
I had sex only once and it was as gross as it gets. I was unable to touch or look her pussy, and putting my dick into it felt disgusting.
Fuck, at this point I'll just open later a thread on /adv/.

>>9069270
Ok but that doesn't sound like being uninterested as much as it sounds like being disgusted.

>>9069210
Rilke didn't have severe mommy issues though, he just grew up into a girly poet.

>>9069281
Well, the disgust is what happens when I have sex, yet even before that, when I didn't know about this mild phobia, I was completely unaware of what being obsessed by sex looked like, not even in my teenage years.
I already know it's not hormonal, since I get tested every 6 months.

>>9069232
>It means that even when I consider all the pleasure involved it's not worth it, since the coitus would be counterbalanced by a traumatic psychological experience.

W-what.

Seek help of a specialist, don't waste your time in the shithole that /lit/ is.

>>9069232
holy fucking shit dude, most people on here just pretend to be autistic for shits and giggles, seek a therapist immediately.

This thread turned out mighty fine. And if you think there's anything overly masculine about Hemingway you need to get out more. He was just a normie with normie interests. Most guys I know (me incuded) has pretty much the same interests.

>>9069301
yeah dude just go to a therapist. seriously.

>>9069301
Anon, i wish you sincerely the best of the lucks. Keep going, streight!

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>mfw I'll never see anon's mom's pics

>>9069232
Film it and blackmail her. Tendies and blowie joeys for life!

>>9069157
thanks, this appears to be exactly the type of thing i was looking for.

>>9069270
You may just be gay senpai

Pics of your mom!!!!!

>>9069110
sounds like Sons&Lovers to me

>>9068360

It's Earnest Hemmingwway you fuckhead.

let me dress as you and bang your mom.pls im so lonely

>>9068969
Getting me all boned up here anon

Best thread on /lit/ anon is going to sex his mommy.

>>9068379
Speak for yourself

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>>9068360
>This fucking thread

>>9069301
I am like you minus, the incest. but there is nothing wrong with disgusted by sex. if anything, it is a help for meditation.
do you fap ?

>>9071764
>>9069301
and what do you fap to ?

bonp

>>9068360
because of his incredibly influential writing style

>>9068360
we went from hemmingway being an insecure manlet to some guy's suppressed unconscious memories of his mom molesting him

this is great
this is why i come here

>>9069232
is this.... is this real?

>>9072758
If you have to ask, the answer is no.

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OP here. Kek this fucking thread turned to fucking gold, good job guys and god bless that poor guy's soul.

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>this thread

>>9068969
Disgusting. Please kill your mom softly, if she's alive.

>>9068360
Stop reading my diary anon

>>9068379
I guess this is what the feminists mean by masculinity being fragile

>>9068969
Sounds like a xiu xiu song

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>>9068360
I always kinda' felt bad for him.
Mommy issues led him to adopt a persona of tough guy.
Mommy issues led him to adopt a strict minimalist style.
Then he got fame and felt trapped in that facade. Imagine writing an experimental book for a lark and then being locked into that style for the rest of your life.

I rather dislike his work, but for a few novels. Mainly, those who appreciate him like his minimalist prose and straightforward descriptions, but I personally find these make a story more bland. I am the type who likes excess prose and needless descriptions, so take that with a grain of salt.

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>>9068969
probably a good thing you repressed that one

>>9069232
>>>9069130
>When it comes to my sexual presence I'm a disaster, as I've said earlier I'm on the brink of asexuality. I can find female bodies attractive, but I truly don't understand people who are obsessed by it, and every sort of attempt at romance looks to me as a waste of time. I'm truly not interested in sex. Can this be linked to what my mom did to me?.
Yes

>>9072887
but feminists never accurately predict things so we can assume it's not true

>>9068969
Damn bro, get therapy.

I'm thankful the only thing I remember is my mom telling me I had to pee in a burger king cup because the school needed my urine sample. In truth, my dad needed to pass a drug test so he could keep his job.

>>9069111
You really need to stop, also that would make you bisexual no?

>>9068360

He's easy and enjoyable to read. Funny, melancholy, insightful and very quotable.

I find it hard to find actual flaws in his writing, though he may be easy to critique.

>>9068938
In A Moveable Feast, Hemingway talks about how Fitzgerald came to him depressed because Zelda made fun of the size of his penis. He then made Hemingway look at it to reassure him it was of adequate size. Lol

>>9073819
I'm willing to bet you're not white.

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Please, someone has to screencap this thread! You have to start making art with all this shit bro and go visit a psychoanalyst

>>9069143
>the other way for them is to despise the only child for being a drag on their social life
have you been reading my diary desu?

>>9074072
Am I misremberbing or did Zelda accuse my man F. Scott of having a crush on Hemmmmingway?

>>9068379
>Because we're all fuckin' pussies that are just trying to hide under a veil of machismo, so it's pretty easy to relate.
>No?
Actually Im macho hiding beneath a deflective aura of pussy-ness, tyvm

I am curious what the psychoanalytic "solution" to asexuality would be

>>9069130
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covert_incest

seems like a more relevant wiki

>>9075515
the most important question is why they think it is bad, why they want to have sex.

bumprr

>>9068360
So Hemingway is the american version of Mishima

>>9068969
These kind of things are abnormal but not the end of the world, your mother's behaviour is also not incredibly sick. Read some psychoanalysis. Of course it's somewhat of a shame that your mothers psychological conflicts affected you directly and even lead to "abuse", but y'know it's not like you were fucked in the ass as a child.

>>9068906
it's actually Memmeingway

>>9074142
Screencap it yourself, you trash monster

>>9075458
Same

Or so I like to think.

>>9078613
this, french kissing and cuddling isn't "molesting"

>>9075515
You should write "asexuality"

Most "Asexual" people i know (that's two desu...) masturbate. I find the term dishonest. It implies an absence of libido, but what they mean is that their libido is not directed at other people. The solution is to understand why that isn't really optimal for living a satisfied life. But if a person is fine with the way things are, then of course there isn't any need.

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>>9078603
>>Natsu did not allow Mishima to venture into the sunlight, to engage in any kind of sport or to play with other boys; he spent much of his time alone or with female cousins and their dolls.[7]

>Mishima returned to his immediate family when he was 12. His father, a man with a taste for military discipline, employed parenting tactics such as holding the young boy up to the side of a speeding train. He also raided Mishima's room for evidence of an "effeminate" interest in literature and often ripped apart the boy's manuscripts.

>>9069079
kek

>>9069077
Have you tried gaslighting yourself?
It can be powerfully therapeutic and cure your negative symptoms. It's like spoofing your own system to regain control.

>>9075515
>>9078886

There you go.

>>9078746
>being french kissed by your mother isn't molesting

Wew lad

>>9069077
im 25 and i still sleep with my mom sometimes, i dont see anything weird in here. I feel it so natural and it never felt awkward. I have my gf wich i fuck every two days at hers. So dont take it to my mom.