How often do you read authors that have different political views

who gives a shit what they say on twitter

>>9034353
I guess not just authors but celebrities whose main demographic are kids. It's propaganda-lite.

I don't really look into political leanings of authors 2bdesu

>stop liking things I don't like!

Rarely, at best.

>>9034351
Neither Christian nor liberal but where does Jesus speak out against race-mixing, immigration or in any way support anything resembling modern right-wing economic policy?

>>9034347
You sound like one of
>I'm a very tolerant person, but

So not, you're not. If you think that a tweet like this is over the line, then you're not open-minded at all. Of course you read a lot of left-wing writers, otherwise you would run out of decent books in two weeks and would have to read fantasty and YA only.

The point of reading "the other side" is to understand them a bit. I'm pretty sure that utilitarianism, kantianism and virtue ethics all would tweet exactly like your John Green, so why is it so hard for you to understand, that some people may feel this way?

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>>9034351
Jesus beat the shit out of the capitalist nazis in the temple though, he's definitely not in your favor.

>>9034353
>>9034362
Of course it matters what they say on there, or anywhere. Why wouldn't it? To truly understand the work you must understand the person, as best as you possibly can. Well, in my opinion, that is.

So if this cocksucker is naive enough to believe that what he is saying is a good thing, then I can tick the "naive dumb cunt" box in my mind when reading his work, thus saving a great deal of wasted time reading into things that weren't meant to be read into, as this was not his intention when writing it. Which in turn, ensures that the overall integrity of his work remains intact and I haven't attached too much of myself onto it, as the integrity of the man and the context of his work are inextricably linked, old chap.

>>9034402
>once you understand left-leaning perspectives, surely you will agree with them!
Also, by today's standards, most authors would be at least centrist, if not right wing

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>>9034407
>implying capitalism or nazism existed 2000 years ago

>Refugees are welcome here!
>I mean, generally here, not where I live, okay?
- every rich cunt in America

>>9034423
>John Green has never shown any aversion to refugees being in his neighbourhood but I'll pretend he has to make a shitty point!

>>9034411
I don't read to become virtual pals with the author, I read for the joy of the book itself. Authors could be switched around, I wouldn't care.

>>9034407
>nazis
spotted the pseud who has no idea what words means, what a fag

>>9034420
Are you serious? Capitalism hasn't been invented in the last century.

>>9034619
You're right, it was the century before that.

>>9034551
You simply misinterpreted my post

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>>9034420
>>9034555
>being this dense
It was a joke you brainwashed idiots

>>9034667
It's a hotly contested term. Most people use it to mean the political structure that emerged around the collapse of the European aristocracies and the industrial revolution.

All the time. The only thing you're accomplishing by refusing to read the works of people who disagree with your political opinions is shutting yourself in to an echo chamber.

>>9034351
well he was a sandnigger and never said anything against race mixing, immigration and communism

>>9034402
>kantianism, utilitarianism and virture ethics would all tweet like john green
No. Kant personally despised niggers just like the vast majority of thinkers of the past - they barely considered blacks and browns human. And rightfully so.

>>9034347
I read people of every ideology except liberals.

>>9034707
Sorry, the comment is too long.

If it isn't capitalism, then I don't know what it is.

Actually, when Jesus of Nazareth is said to “overthr[o]w the tables of the moneychangers (…)” in the Scriptures, these “tables” were called “banca” and that's precisely the origin of the word “bank”.

>>9034665
>Merely pretending

>>9034347
Build it high, build it low. No more spics from Mexico.

>>9034347
Literally all the time OP. Even my family members don't agree on anything political, and neither do my friends.

I don't agree with anyone I read politically either(or it's extremely rare), but I still listen to what they say because it's interesting.

>>9034347
>How often do you read authors that have different political views than you?
You can only get the whole picture if you read works from all ideologies, even and especially those that you despise.

John Green is a different animal though, he inserts his stupid opinions into his 'lectures' all the time, which is a big no-no. A teacher should represent the facts and not teach his opinions, unless he declares the course as such.

>>9034428
>defending meme green
Wew laddy

>>9034619
>>9034667
>>9034707
>>9034711
Kys tripfag

>>9034825
yeah how dare he go against the echo chamber

>>9034707
oh, yeah, uhh... uhh...

I'm masturbating to this post right now

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>>9034347
I think Marlon James is probably the most gifted author of popular literary fiction at this time, but politically he deserves a bullet in the back of the head after a slow trudge into a basement.

>>9034707
I'd differentiate this as capitalism ~being present~, rather than capitalism being the overruling, general system.

You could say 'there was capitalism going on' but it would be weird to refer to capitalists as the ruling class (and therefore as having the same material and political dynamic they have today). A capitalist was still kind of an agent of revolution, so your capitalist-bashing Jesus should probably be read as taking pro-monarchic, in fact authoritarian actions. Which to me as a Catholic sounds exactly right, but I'm not sure it will to you.

>>9034991
Why? This is the most dignified defence of idpol I've ever seen (saying this as someone stridently anti-idpol).

>>9035027
Which makes it all the more poisonous. Operating on the very assumption that privilege removes a degree of authorial integrity is disgusting.

>>9035044
This is fascinating and you're persuading me. Can you possibly link a decent text on this?

>>9035059
My reference is Jacques Ellul's “History of Institutions”, first volume but I doubt you would get it online. He refers to “Il capitalismo antico: storia dell'economia romana” by Giuseppe Salvioli a lot, but I haven't read it yet. I'd suggest you to read a lot on Roman law as well, it's instructive and has striking similarities with our own civilization.

>>9034351
Jesus actually was a mudskin though

>>9034347
All the time. My favourite authors are the ones who rail against my political views, i.e. Egoistic nihilism.

But the best realise that politics is fairly minor.
>>9034351
You know, when you read stuff like the Divine Comedy, you see a lot of very interesting condemnation of...usury. It's "creating money without creating anything of use", it's only playing number-games, moving money about.

>>9034714
Not even you can be this autistic.

>>9034347

Pretty much all the time. Hamsun is my favorite author even though I despise nazis. Not being able to appreciate art, even if it is infused with something you disagree with, is so fucking plebeian. It's on par with disliking a novel because you didn't think the characters were sympathetic.

>>9034351

>Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.

- Matthew 19:21

Jesus was quite obviously heavily left-leaning bro. The single time he lost his shit was when the capitalists were peddling their shit in the temple.

>>9035077
Cheers

The author is dead

>>9035154
Living a life of asceticism isn't left wing. You can give away your worldly possessions in search of spiritual/intellectual enlightenment while believing in a well ordered conservative state. To give up your possessions is not an aim to benefit their recipients but to rid yourself of material things which restricts you from Ascension in the mind and soul.

If anything Jesus is advising him say fuck you guys enjoy worldly corruption I'm going with God.

>>9035249
Just because you can do something doesn't mean doing it isn't fucking retarded and self-contradictory.

Jesus, in any case, did not concern himself with the state. That was his whole "give unto Caesar" thing.

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>>9035249
>"You can give away your worldly possessions in search of spiritual/intellectual enlightenment while believing in a well ordered conservative state"
>implying jesus was literally a modern conservative

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>>9034833
>I'm masturbating to this post right now
Good taste.

>>9034707
Good job, Vesp.

>>9034692
This

>>9035154
>applying the left right dichotomy to 1st century Judea

>>9035038
LOL you can't argue that it isn't a valid criticism

Write from whatever perspective you want just don't cry when someone challenges you on it. If the work is good enough this shouldnt be a problem.

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We are in times were writers arent intelectuals anymore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNu4xU9qOEM

>>9036845
I'm confused, are you suggesting PJW is an intellectual?

>>9034347
All the time probably. But I can't really care wether Tolstoy agrees or disagrees with Russian intervention in Serbia or wether Poe voted democrat or republican.

>>9034411
I think apocalypto is one of the most underrated films of the its decade. Politically I think Mel Gibson is abhorrant why should I let personal details influence my opinions on art?

>>9034832
t. John Green

>>9036953
Read my post again, moron.
I said to UNDERSTAND the work. Not whether you fucking happen to like it or not.

>>9034709

ebin post friend

Does someone want to tell him to check his privilege for deciding for an entire nation what's ok?

>>9036884
Yes.

>>9037002
Ah yes, Apocalypto is after all just a portrayal of Mel's hatred on jews ;^)

>>9037253
Who cares?

>>9034347
I try to read stuff from different political POVs to not fall victim of my own bubble, but I admit it, it's harder than reading something you know you'll agree with.

>>9034551
You might actually be retarded

>>9034991
This is a perfectly acceptable review though.

>>9034347
He forgot to type not. As in "Say it loud. Say it clear. "Refugees" are not welcome here."