What's /lit/'s opinion on the guy and where to start/what

The earlier translations are seriously fucked up. I didn't have a fucking clue what was going on in the first few pages of the copy of Practical Reason I borrowed. He's horribly inefficient at getting his point across, and shitty translations don't help.

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>>9032629
>He's horribly inefficient at getting his point across
Oh eternal Anglo

This is why you will never transcend your petty pragmatist/empiricist paradigmata

>>9032629

Yeah, I feel your pain, man.

I have already heard of how notoriously prolix and roundabout his writings were, but up to actually trying it I thought that reputation was built solely by butthurt amateurs who picked the wrong starting point, but he's really something else.

I tried his Critiques first just after reading my first Nietzche book and i plainly could not bear it. I have been trying to get on his teachings again but all the advice i get is to start from "Groundworks". Since my local scene here is so weak i thought i could get some clarification from /lit/.

>>9032530
> skip
all of kant
> start
aristotle

the less german philosophy you read, the more you live!

Most important texts by Kant imo are:
the three critiques (obviously)
what is enlightenment
perpetual peace

the groundwork is for lazy people and the prolegomena is too.

>>9032669
How well do you know Descartes and the British empiricists, Hume in particular? You are guaranteed to get lost in the CPR if you're not aware of the problems those lads saddled Kant up with.

>>9032796

From the british empiricists the little I know came from third party texts and essays.

The only english philosophers I am acquainted with are Hobbes, Locke and Mill.

Yes, i am pretty acquainted with Descartes.

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>>9032530

In my opinion Kant is not even a bad writer, he's just talking about some very difficult concepts which get even harder to understand when translated. Start with Hume/Leibniz/Newton (probably means you're gonna need to read Descartes too but if you're time strapped just look his shit up, and actually read Newton!) and then read Prolegomena to Critique of Pure Reason. Spend a lot of time reading the commentaries. After that you won't need /lit/ to know where to go.

Don't read Kant, he's a hack.

>>9032875
A helpful answer on /lit/? Must be a Holiday.