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Shall we dispel the >translations meme already? There's

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Shall we dispel the
>translations
meme already?
There's no strong case to be made in favour of original text over a good translation. If fact, 99.99% of people won't even be able to distinguish which is which unless told in advance.
Common arguments for the meme are the following three:
>1. All languages have unique properties of expression that cannot be transferred to another tongue.
This is pure bs. All languages are capable of expressing all things, language is not a limiter, a thought is.
>2. Original works carries unique properties of a culture
Another load of shit. There's no reason to assume that same properties of a culture cannot be expressed in any other language.
>3. Argument for aesthetic/musical beauty of a language
I won't argue that because it only applies to poetry in which I have no interest, and not novels. There's also an argument to be made that language is first and foremost a tool for expression, and using it for it's 'musical' properties is lateral to it's purpose at best, and fucking stupid at worst.
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I want to have sex with Machida.
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>>9020452
dumb weeb
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>99.99% of people won't even be able to distinguish which is which unless told in advance.
are you really this retarded
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>>9020452
>99.99% of people won't even be able to distinguish which is which
Source?

> All languages are capable of expressing all things
May be true, but not in the same way.

> There's no reason to assume that same properties of a culture cannot be expressed in any other language
If something like sense of humour is contained within a language, sometimes even within dialects (British v American), then even less subtle things are more so contained.

> using it for it's 'musical' properties is lateral to it's purpose at best, and fucking stupid at worst
I've no idea what you meant by this. Reading poetry in a native language works better than in any other, as there are metres, rhymes, and assonances to follow. This is obvious.

Read the Illiad in Greek, then in English. I dare you to say the English is better.
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Reminder to put sage into options when replying to baiting retard.
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>>9020485
>Source?
Secret illuminati experiments.
Ok I lied, common sense
>May be true, but not in the same way.
True, but who really cares? If english needs 2 words to describe a thing spanish describes in one, was something lost in translation, other than perhaps mythical 'pacing'?
>If something like sense of humour is contained within a language, sometimes even within dialects (British v American)
Wordplay is incredibly rare, and can be solved with a simple footnote. If the entire novel built on it, refer to the beauty argument.
>Reading poetry in a native language works better than in any other, as there are metres, rhymes, and assonances to follow.
I told you I'm not going to argue about poetry
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>>9020526
> I'm not going to argue with the greatest evidence against my point.
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>>9020531
Ok, just to calm your autism
>Shall we dispel the >translations meme when it comes to the prose?
Happy now?
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As somebody who can only read English translations, you're partially wrong at best. You can only judge an author's writing ability in the original language, since a translation is akin to a complete rewriting.
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