Here's a though experiment, /lit/: A mathematician proves

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Anonymous 2017-01-23 07:31:59 Post No. [Report]

Here's a though experiment, /lit/:

A mathematician proves that a universal Turing machine is unable to simulate consciousness. The proof is airtight, peer reviewed, and formally verified.

What implications would this have for philosophy?

Anonymous 2017-01-23 07:38:08 Post No.9011621
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Anonymous 2017-01-23 07:38:08 Post No.9011621 [Report]

>>9011614
YOU ARE NOT YOUR BROWSING HISTORY

Anonymous 2017-01-23 08:16:54 Post No.9011682
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Anonymous 2017-01-23 08:16:54 Post No.9011682 [Report]

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Anonymous 2017-01-23 08:21:55 Post No.9011687
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Anonymous 2017-01-23 08:21:55 Post No.9011687 [Report]

>>9011614
he's not a mathematician he's a robot

Put on your thinking glasses 2017-01-23 08:26:45 Post No.9011694
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Put on your thinking glasses 2017-01-23 08:26:45 Post No.9011694 [Report]

>>9011614
You should submit this thought experiment to samual harris for peer review

I mean there is still an epistemological problem.

Anonymous 2017-01-23 08:28:17 Post No.9011696
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Anonymous 2017-01-23 08:28:17 Post No.9011696 [Report]

it would refute functionalism and that's about it. that would be interesting since functionalism is currently the most popular view in the philosophy of mind but it's by no means the only viable view

Anonymous 2017-01-23 08:30:05 Post No.9011697
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Anonymous 2017-01-23 08:30:05 Post No.9011697 [Report]

It would have no effect

Business as usual

Anonymous 2017-01-23 08:31:30 Post No.9011701
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Anonymous 2017-01-23 08:31:30 Post No.9011701 [Report]

The Lucas-Penrose argument would be proven correct. Basically just a death blow to physicalists/materialists everywhere (the majority of philosophers today).

Anonymous 2017-01-23 08:34:04 Post No.9011703
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Anonymous 2017-01-23 08:34:04 Post No.9011703 [Report]

>>9011701

there are non-computational versions of materialism though (like the identity theory, for example)

Anonymous 2017-01-23 09:58:59 Post No.9011806
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Anonymous 2017-01-23 09:58:59 Post No.9011806 [Report]

>>9011614
Nothing significant not already implied by an adequate formalisation of consciousness.

Anonymous 2017-01-23 10:02:16 Post No.9011811
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Anonymous 2017-01-23 10:02:16 Post No.9011811 [Report]

>>9011614
You can't fucking "simulate" consciousness. A consciousness is knowable only to itself.

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