Serious question, is the only reason for purchsing physical books

>>9006546
yes

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>>9006546
I have the money to spend on it and prefer paper aesthetically. Enjoyment is all the reason you need.

I also routinely swap books with friends, which isn't as easy with normal ebooks.

>>9006546
No, for retention.

>>9006546
Paper books also have a different feel to them, but it's usually not worth the extra money. So mostly yes, it's vanity.

>>9006546
No. Most books will never be made into ebooks, so if you want to read something like a Flight to Lucifer, you have to look for an actual copy.
That and the formatting on a lot of ebooks is actually unreadable.

>>9006546
No, it's so you have a BOOK to read, a real codex of paper and cloth, which you can comfortably lie in bed with within the bonds marriage as God intended.

Pros:
Books are very cheap comparatively
Lightweight
Takes us barely any space
Holds thousands of books, more than you will ever need/read
Adjustable brightness that doesnt strain eyes
Adjustahle font size

Cons
Battery needs recharging every now and then

>>9006563
*with natural light falling on the pages

When the war is over and we're all living in third world squalor with no electricity or running water, those of us who have books will still have books. Those of us have an e-reader will have illiterate kids.

>>9006568
Appeal to nature fallacy

>>9006546

just commit suicide

>>9006546
Sometimes when I go into a used bookstore I find something interesting that I wouldn't have thought of searching for

>>9006554
>Most books will never be made into ebooks
It's good that you provided some compelling arguments and didn't just pull a statement out of your ass.

>buying ebooks
TOP KEK

Library Genesis exists you luddite.

>>9006595
Are you poor?

>>9006602
I would be if I wasted money.

I like the fact that you can collect them, and the dopamine rush of ordering on amazon, getting them in the mail is cool.

My ipad locked me out so i started buying real books. Problem is ive been so used to screens that real books are harder now.

Also, i like the romantic idea of handing someone a "life changing" book. Tell someone "you sould read xxx" and they'll nod and never do it.

Another reason: I'd get pissed off when i couldn't find free PDF versions of books i wanted to read (this is mostly for modern stuff). Paying for a digital book seems so lame. When i use an Ereader i better be getting them for free, otherwise, mostly every book on earth is a penny on amazon and only 4 bucks for shipping, then you have it for collection, in case of apocalypse, etc.

I buy books to virtue signal with them. I have two hundred and thirty five copies of Infinite Jest strategically placed throughout my manse. Bitches love it.

>>9006607
>he doesn't know the difference between not wasting and obsessing over every cent
One is being smart with money the other is poorfag mentality.

>>9006610
So basically, vanity

>>9006546
I mean, kind of. But certain books lend better to physical copies. Poetry for instance, is much better in paperback. Easier to just sift through and browse poems etc. The same argument could also be made for short story collections and maybe even novels with lots of notes.

>>9006568
true but stupid

>>9006614
What you have is consumerist mentality. I'm not giving some jew publishers money so I can read a book written by a guy who died 100 years ago, fuck off.

>>9006595
Enjoy your outdated translations

>>9006610
mm yes that dopamine rush

>>9006625
>jew

fuck off /pol/

>>9006546
reading on a screen gives me eye strain and a book feels more comfortable in my hands than something so thin and fragile as a kindle

>>9006610
>dopamine rush of ordering on amazon, getting them in the mail is cool.

I have to agree with this. I read on my Kobo a lot but sometimes order physical copies of books if the price is right, or I can't find a good epub.

Waiting for that delivery, trying to finish up your other books as you wait for your new ones, is a great feeling.

>>9006625
>giving some jew publishers money so I can read a book written by a guy who died 100 years ago
>all the old classics are available for free on nearly every ebook store

>>9006610
not dopamine

>>9006628
If you think there is something wrong with jews controlling the world go back to /pol/. It is a fact that they control the world and a fact that it is in our best interests.

>>9006546
My retention when reading on a handheld electronic device is practically nonexistent.

>>9006546
no.

it's to support a noble tradition.

>>9006546
If I do I try to get it in a quality long lasting version in a good binding.

It's hypocritical of me as I'm using similar technology to post but the production of a e-reader is more costly then the equivalent amount of normal books. It's produced by a Chinese or third world worker for cents on a dollar, the technology for it most likely has a horror story of an origin and it's designed to become obsolete.

>>9006689
>he prefers books printed on the machinery produced by a Chinese or third world worker for cents on a dollar, the technology for it most likely has a horror story of an origin and it's designed to become obsolete

>>9006697
machines made for manufacturing are designed to be obsolete?

I make my books out of parchment.

Made from jew skin.

>>9006701
Handheld devices are designed to be obsolete?

Most books published before the 21st century that weren't canonized by academia do not exist in eBook format

>>9006707
Yeah and they're all shit. Fucking hipster.

>>9006706
yes lol

Any given "new" technology in iPhones, for example, has been available to Apple for years before they release it. They do this so people keep buying new phones because of all the new features, updates, and so on.

>>9006707
>books published before the 21st century
>reading vintage books
What kind of poorfag can't afford new books full of latest literary tech?

>>9006712

Not an argument.

>>9006664
A lot of people have that issue with LED/LCD screens since they hurt your eyes. Most e-readers use electronic ink screens which is completely opaque and looks a lot like actual paper. You can take them outside on a sunny day and they'll still be perfectly readable.

Got a Kobo H2O a while ago and it's honestly one of the best purchases I've ever made. I can just download books off the internet, put them into the device with calibre and read them with the same comfort I'd have with a physical copy

>>9006715
I have phones, PDAs and readers going back ~15 years. Most are still working like new. The whole "made to become obsolete" meme comes from irresponsible teenagers who don't know how to care for things and need to blame someone else. Meanwhile I can still browse freshest WAP-pages on my Siemens and read books on a Palm and both 1.Gen iPhone and GNex are working just fine.

>>9006546
Looking at screens too long really strain my eyes. Plus I like seeing the progression Ive made thru a book rather than a blip that says pg120 or 400.

>>9006719
why don't you suck stefan molyneax's cock fagboi

L O L

>>9006725
Also, the battery lasts fucking FOREVER since the e-ink display uses very little energy. As long as you keep the backlight off when it's not needed and don't read literally all day, a full charge should last around a week or longer.

>>9006731
And did you buy new ones despite the older versions still working?

Can help you get laid if your books are in your room

my bookshelf is a shrine to every writer who has contributed to my perspective on life. I give away the books I don't care for.

>>9006736

Not an argument.

>>9006749
I bought new ones, because they had more functions/capabilities, not because the old ones became dysfunctional.

>buy from smaller publishing house

>they don't have online format

fuck you op. I hate you.

>>9006751
Lol what a pseud comment

>>9006756
Didn't say they become dysfunctional, I said they become obsolete, floppy disks still function but are obsolete, also are you regularly use your old tech?

>>9006763
no, it's sincerity

>>9006780
There's a difference between obsolescence and planned obsolescence ("designed to be obsolete"). First one happens naturally, the other one is manufacturer's doing. People like to talk of latter in relation to personal electronic devices, even though they're mostly subject to former. No I don't use old tech regularly.

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>>9006568
This. The biggest reason to own paper books is as a hedge against technological failure.

Of course, this is a fully general argument for becoming a prepper, so if you don't have at least a year's worth of food, water, fuel, and ammo stocked up, you don't get to use this argument.

>>9006734
>Looking at screens too long really strain my eyes
E-ink looks exactly the same as regular paper. Give it a try.

This thread depresses the fuck out of me. I'm a college student and "having a nice bookshelf" is the worst part of owning physical books; even if I spend a lot of money on buying books and time on reading them, it's not at all fucking practical when I think about moving across the country or world for a job.

I've been reading a book from Gutenberg on my Kindle Fire and it's unsatisfying as hell on an electronic screen. I don't feel like I'm reading a book, probably because most of what I've read on a screen up to this point has been shitposts and news.

It's a bummer because some books are a bitch to buy or carry around (See: The Gulag Archipelago), but I'd take toting a few pounds of books on vacation over losing out on the best reading experience I could have.

I find that I'm more likely to finish a book if I actually have a physical copy of it.

>>9006546

The answer to this question is subjective, depending on the person and their personal view. The answer to your question is, no. Vanity is not the only reason why people buy physical copies over digital.

People buy physical copies for their own reason. It's better to ask the question, Which do YOU prefer, physical or digital, and why?

This is the question you should ask, because subjective questions will never have a yes or no answer.

Honestly, lit, I expected better from you.

I enjoy taking notes in my books. Helps with retention. Can't do that with ebooks.

>>9006786
No it is not

>>9006936
Vanity

>>9006879
There are e-readers with more paper-like screens, though. The other Kindle models, which are more explicitly e-readers, or the Kobo models would not strain your eyes as much.

>>9006546
That being said, I prefer paper copies because I like to annotate as I read and that's a hell of a lot harder to do via Kindle. Also, it's easier to keep up with discussion in class with physical editions.

I also have always appreciate the aesthetics of books, so.

>annotating

Because your undergrad insights are really important lmao

Fear of the electronic media changing keeps me buying books. Those of us who invested in VHS video tapes ended up binning them a decade later when everything switched to CDs. There is a good chance that books will still be on shelves a few centuries from now, while e-readers will be filling up landfill sites. Books also don't need batteries, dont break when you drop them and can be loaned to friends without you being accused of piracy. Also, if a book is lost/stolen, you are only a few quid down.

>>9007009
Yes you can.

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>>9006546
Why do you people always use this argument to condemn books?

Buying books is not "vanity" but more around spiritual fulfillment. You folks always scream that ebooks are the future for it is very effective and cheap. But when we use the same argument into making you eat nothing but bland potatoes and ramen, we all know that you will all get sick

Always remember that you are a human not a robot. Mental, emotional, and spiritual health are vital in keeping yourself sane and happy. A life of greys will always wish for death.

Real books to a reader yeilds the same joys as eating a home-cooked meal
Ebooks are for fags who eat canned sardines

>>9006565
So biased

Cons:
Can break after a single drop
Can break with a few drops of water
Very likely to be stolen
No one can see what you are reading
Cannot lend it to a friend without losing everything
Has a lifespan of less than 10 years

>>9007653
You can buy protective cases so it won't break. they cost less than 100 so it doesn't matter if they would only last a year, still chraper than buying books.
How exactly are they going to be stolen? If you take care of your things they won't
You can tell your friends which books to download

>>9007653
>Can break after a single drop
Dunno about other e-readers, but mine is an 8 ounce chunk of plastic and pretty much indestructable. In the last 5 years I've lugged it around all over the world and didn't treat it with much care and it's still working perfectly. If I read a single book as much as my kindle it would likely be in tatters.

>>9007626
>potatoes and ramen
>he can't even make a correct analogy
>he posts anime girls
What a surprise.

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Paper feels better.

The smell, touch, the experience of reading a book is lost on an e-reader. Of course, an e-reader is more efficient, but something is always lost in the process of making something more efficient. A book is a physical object that encases the content within a defined space ; things like the cover also help doing this. Putting the content into text doesn't change what's written inside, naturally, but it modifies the link between the author and the text in the sense that it feels like he has less ownership of it. In a way, e-readers are un-canonifying literature, and I can't think of a worse moment for this to happen. Properly didn't formulate my idea too well, but I think Gunther Anders said something similar, althought not related to books exactly.


(Also you can't post in stack threads and you have no bookshelf to show off)

(Literally pleb tier)

I can't enjoy reading on electronics is why I buy physical copies over ebooks.

Why I buy books over renting from a library is more of a personal problem. I'll work on it.

So I can show off my taste in public desu

>>9007728
>You can tell your friends which books to download
He means that you dont have access to your entire digital library when somebody is borrowing your e-reader, which may or may not be true.

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>>9006546
I don't own physical music anymore. I don't own physical movies. When I played games they were all digital copies.

If it wasn't for books my house would be a soulless cube. Like Kevin's room in 'We need to talk about Kevin'.

>>9006546
Personally my reading speed is slow as hell on ebooks, and having the internet just seconds away so I can watch YouTube or go on /lit/ doesn't help either. Plus I like going through and underlining and tabbing especially for school books which is something that's significantly harder to keep track of on an ebook. Lastly, I like having a physical reminder of all that I need to read. My kindle library is full of books but I've only read a couple because they don't take up any physical space so there is no sense of urgency to read them.

>>9007653
>paper books are water proof
>paper books are life proof
>implying I give a fuck if people can see what I'm reading
>implying I have friends

Hah yeah ok kid.

>>9007498
You can annotate for your own personal gain though. If I didn't track nearly every symbol in As I Lay Dying I would have never understood the importance of Christmas, bananas, or linked Jewel to the philosophy of Nietzsche. Have all those things been written about by other people? Yes. But I was able to learn for myself because of extensive annotations. It's a part of the reading experience that is severely restricted when reading an ebook.

>>9006548
/thread

>>9006546
I always get tired and fall asleep when I read ebooks, so I cant read anything other than physical books.

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>>9006567

I don't think anybody has mentioned in this thread, yet, which is weird, but--

staring at an electronic lit screen for hours on end is going to fuck your eyesight. that reason alone is enough to avoid it

>>9006546
I can't into ebooks, I just can't.

>>9006546
>over an ebook
so you must buy ebook reader anyway, right?

>>9006546
Yes. I was one of the physical book memelords but I was given a Kindle Paperwhite for christmas and it's all I read now. So much more convienient and comfortable. I still buy books for the shelf so dumb women think I'm intelligent though.

>>9006546
You're overthinking this. You need no more explanation than "I like my paper books."

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I like both. Digital for when I travel. But I really like taking notes in physical books as I read.

>>9008320
Kindle and most other "ink" E reader screens are completely different from modern phone/tablet screens and have little to no negative effect on your eyes in comparison. Especially if you don't use the backlight which is the equivalent to a book light.

>>9006546

you're cold-minded. you've flown off into the frosty peaks of pure form and you've forgotten that matter is the ground of being.

i wouldn't get rid of my borzoi edition of wallace stephens for anything. they print one poem per page.

>>9008467
>women think you're intelligent

dam son, how many books did you buy?

>>9006546
i just cant physically read on a pc or tablet

>he thinks he's gonna be able to charge his e-reader after the nukes have fallen
pffff, I'll be in my basement with my shelves lined with real books

>>9007626
Appeal to nature fallacy

>>9008127
Autism

You do not know how long any given electronic medium will last

you can let your friends read physical books you own.

reading shit on a screen fucking sucks

>>9009523
Kindle isnt really like a screen though

It doesnt strain your eyes

>>9009523
on second thought, ebooks are good because you can read classics in public without looking like a poser.

>>9006546
Books just feel better to me. I hate reading a screen.

>>9009540
yeah I guess. There is still something about paper I like better though. maybe because I got used to paper reading a lot for pleasure as a kid a most things I have read on a screen have been for school.

>>9006570
Wrong.

>>9007653
>Can break after a single drop
>Can break with a few drops of water
Mine is literally waterproof and unless you violently throw it to the floor repeatedly it won't break.
>Very likely to be stolen
No more than a phone, and for most people having phones stolen isn't a regular issue.
>No one can see what you are reading
What?
>Cannot lend it to a friend without losing everything
You can say the same about lending a physical book, except you can't log in into your account from a computer and download it again
>Has a lifespan of less than 10 years
The first kindle came out barely ten years ago and the tech hasn't really got up to snuff until recent years

>>9009658
Right.

>>9006626
Joke is on you, I always read in the original language

Why bother with vinyl or VCR? I like information that has a smell. All the best things have a smell. Texture too, I like to feel up my information. Also, sounds are nice too. My copy of Dune has a bunch of folded over corners from when I was an idiot child who couldn't remember page numbers. It is my shitty copy of a mostly shitty book. Mine mine mine.

>I use ebooks because I don't care what people think of me
>emotionally communicates this fact online to hundreds of total strangers, the people least deserving of your self conscious anxieties

>>9006610
>he thinks people actually read books given to them

>>9008234
Nigga. There are books and scrolls that are older than our entire generation. Like hell can digital break that record

Not at all. I find there's something about physically holding and being able to flick back and forth between pages that allows me to retain the information MUCH better. Maybe it's just me but I've really noticed this since I've stopped using my Kindle and read physical books.

Also there's the satisfaction of being able to feel where you are in the book and the nicer pictures you can have. I still use my Kindle sometimes but far far less these days.

Why do we use cash instead of everyone using debit and credit cards? Books can pass person to person, generation to generation. It doesn't need to be charged and it doesn't need the internet. A book is a book. I love my ereader, but books will always come first.

>>9009739
>What?
I think you're interpreting it as "bragging rights," but it's more about meeting people with common interests. If you see somebody reading a book you love, you might go up and talk to them about it.

>>9006546
I don't know OP. What's the point of buying paint and a canvas when you have Photoshop?

What's the point of listening to classical music when you have modern pop music?

What's the point of riding a bike when you have a car?

What's the point of walking when you have a bike?

What's the point of having a beard when you have a razor?

What's the point of having a gun when you have nukes?

What's the point?

>>9012211
idk nigga

I still buy books purely for annotating and highlighting. I know you can do that stuff on ereaders but it's very clumsy and slow, at least on the ones I have.

>>9012211
Most of the things in this post weren't even equivalent to ebooks vs physical copies

You could have just said something like vinyl vs an mp3 player

>>9006546
I find it easier to read books on paper than on my computer, but I also take great pleasure in having a lot of books around me as an aesthetic thing.

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>>9006546
The ant’s a centaur in his dragon world.
Pull down thy vanity, it is not man
Made courage, or made order, or made grace,
Pull down thy vanity, I say pull down.
Learn of the green world what can be thy place
In scaled invention or true artistry,
Pull down thy vanity,
Paquin pull down!
The green casque has outdone your elegance.

>>9009543
pseud

>>9006546
A physical book contains memories. You feel it with your hands, you remember the pleasure you had reading it the first time, you love the smell of it, sometimes you find old postcards, tickets or notes inside of it whatever...
When you read again an e-book, your memory of it is more vague. You might have pleasure reading it again, but it will be lowered since the medium is neutral.

>>9012186
>If you see somebody reading a book you love, you might go up and talk to them about it.
please don't

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>>9009164
this

There is a reason why I live in a 28 sqm basement apartment.

I'm going to keep reminding everyone in these threads about R-values until you make me stop.

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>>9006546

I've always read physical books and I see no reason to stop. I don't like reading off screens, I had to do it a lot for college and still do it for work. I don't associate it with pleasure. I can't relax while reading off a screen. Physical books are a comfort and feel more natural to me. Besides, well stocked bookcases make for easy insulation for any room.

Also I have a feeling that these digital book formats are just going to keep changing and ereaders are going to get obsoleted and people will be forced to buy newer models and repurchase all their books. Physical books are immune to all that, you only need to replace them if they get so beat up they start falling apart on you.

>>9009739
>You can say the same about lending a physical book
When you lend somebody a book you are lending them one book. When you lend somebody your ereader you are lending them your entire library.

>>9006546
I want to be able to pass down my books to my kids someday, and I don't think it would be nearly as meaningful giving them an outdated piece of digital technology. I believe books have a timeless charm in the form they're currently read, and in the far off future will still probably exist and be read the way they are today. However, I don't think I could say the same for an e-reader. I know humans used to use scrolls, but the leap from physical to digital feels like a much bigger leap than that. One with a much shakier foundation.

>>9006546
I can easily get meme books i see on here for a dollar at the local book shop, read them if i feel like it, then either resell it back, burn it, or, yes, as you said, keep it so that I feel smart

>>9006546
>buying ebooks
But the answer is yes. Like I'd rather have the meme trilogy and other big reads in physical form. Much more impressive (and much easier to skip around on) than on a Kindle or something

>>9006546
Bright back-lighting with a lot of blue light primes your brain to wake up and keeps you from falling asleep; a nice paper book and an incandescent light source is super comfy before bed.

>>9006632
lower the brightness. do you get an eye strain being on the computer?

>>9014920
bitch i read on a tablet every night and fall asleep effortlessly

>>9006546
No.

I genuinely enjoy the feel of a book and I like flipping through the pages, worrying about ink getting on my fingers/hand, etc. I just like books, period. I read books from my iPad from time to time, but it doesn't feel the same.

To each their own

>Took me six fucking captcha tries to post this.

God, I can't stand captcha sometimes.

I prefer books. It's nicer, I have the feeling my concentration and my retention are increased. It's good-looking, I can display them in bookshelves, and I often step back and contemplate it. I think that if you can't understand how this has its importance, how the aesthetics participate in the experience, then you don't understand literature and shouldn't read in the first place.

>>9006546
Nigger you can buy a used book for 1 cent on amazon and the shipping is 3-10 dollars most of the time.

>>9006546
How can anyone genuinely believe that reading on an electronic device is better than reading an actual book? How do you underline the text? How do you write notes? Not to mention the spiritual value of a book - functionality isn't everything.

>>9012211
false equivalence: the poste

>>9012211
Analogies were a mistake

>>9015688

Almost every ereader these days has highlighting and note-taking capabilities, not to mention that your highlights and notes are immediately searchable through a database across everything you have read.

I mean sure, writing by hand is cool and all, but ereading really is much more convenient for serious study.

>>9015688
>spiritual value of a book
Kek. Kys, my man.

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>>9006546
>Would theatre plays kill books?
>Would radio drama kill books?
>Would the cinema kill books?
>Would comic books kill books?
>Would TV shows kill books?
>Would the fucking internet kill books?

Books have been tested with time and has successfully survived it unscathed. It took the internet just 15 years to take down the entire DVD rental industry, and yet, it cannot even mark a dent on the industry of literary arts. If something so poweerful as the net cannot bring books down, something so simple as Kindle, (which is nothing more than a downgraded tablet) would more likely go bankcrupt once the trend fades

>>9015930
Original manuscripts of famous works canbuy your entire family generation, dumbass

>>9014773
Except not because on most services you can just fucking download the book again and read it somewhere else

>>9014920
Any decent e-reader uses electronic paper which is opaque

/lit/ really underestimates 21st century techology

>>9016385
Oh, and then you have gems like >>9015688

Do people here think e-readers are single-function, extra-primitive tablets that display books you buy from a store and literally not a single function or selling point other than that?

>>9015941
None of those things were direct replacements for books. An author can't just release his work in book format and movie format - a whole set of new creative choices have to be made. With Kindle, he can just send one copy to the editor and one copy to Amazon. The internet is a new, more convenient way to watch movies, and kindle is a new, more convenient way to read books - just like books replaced scrolls and scrolls replaced carvings.

>>9006546
Holy shit.

The simple answer is if you want to be able to jot down notes easily, highlight easily, etc, without having to do all this bullshit on ereader.

>>9016458
Kindle lets you do those things from a single menu. The time to tap the word, select highlighter, and drag over the relevant passage probably takes the same amount of time as grabbing your highlighter, uncapping it, highlighting the passage, recapping it, and putting it down - if not less. Same is roughly true of notes.

No you fag, e-readers are dumb electrical gewgaws which cause blindness and poor reading habits.

All my books are second hand and purchased for pennies.

>>9016484
If this is bait, bravo

Making notes on an e-reader takes more effort than a physical book which merely requires a pencil. Therefore, I find that physical books are better for retention. If all you want to do is read for enjoyment, then e-readers are fine.

>>9006546
I'm a paranoid. If i can have both a digital and a physical copy of a book as a backup, i will just in case.>>9006546

>>9006546
Well let's take an even more extreme example: I pirated a whole couple of programming book, but I ended up buying 2 of those later on. Why did I do it?
Physical books are a much better reading experience and it is easier annotating things there, placing more convenient bookmarks. I like reading physical books much more. if I want to enjoy the reading process I buy real books. In the programming books case it's probably also a question of reference. Books you constantly return to should be bought physically for convenience.

>>9016558
Which are you nearby more often? A phone with the Kindle app or your doorstoppers? Any appeal to convenience is a joke. Aesthetics is valid, although it strikes me as plebish that one would apply that to a technical manual.

Batteries. I hate the idea of having to put down a book because it "ran out of batteries". I travel around alot, so I will often have a moment in which I don't have a chance to charge it up.

Also, I'm clumsy as fuck and already broke 2 e-readers.

I prefer buying paperbacks and giving them away when I'm done with them and don't have the space to carry it around.

I have no problem theoretically with ebooks, but in practice I never finish them. More opportunities for distraction and choice paralysis.

>>9016639
I travel alot: I only have to charge like once in a week. I use a effay cover case that you actually can buy on amazon. It would protect it for accidents, but anyway my hands are not stupid yet, maybe ebooks are not for you.

>>9016639
i last charged my paperwhite in December and I use it every day

>>9006546
I find it's easier on the eye than a screen, and none think you're on social media.

>>9016429
>why would you read if you could just watch a play?
>why would you read if you could just read a graphic novel?
>why would you read if you could just watch it on TV?
>why would you buy a book if you could just read it online?

See the logic now?
Scrolls and stone tablets still belongs to the branch of printed media. Kindle belongs to printed media.
Books are going to stay and it is going to evolve to be made waterproof and "foldmarks - proof" someday soon. We would probably change its name someday but it would still belong to the printed media

>>9017475
>Kindle belongs to printed media.
I meant "digital"

I use an ereader and buy physical books. Physical books feel a lot nicer to read. Physical books are also far superior if its a book that you're studying, or a textbook, or any other book where you need to go back and forth between different pages frequently.

>>9017475
>Scrolls and stone tablets still belongs to the branch of printed media
wut

One thing I dislike about ebooks is the lack of control the publisher has over the formatting of the book when it's being read. There are some truly beautifully printed books, and that is something that you lose out on with ebooks.

At least with the type of ebooks that are actually pleasant to read on ereaders. PDFs allow you to retain the formatting but are a pain to read on ereaders.

>>9017475
Ask yourself about any one of those - does the author have to do additional creative and practical work to bring them to market? If the answer is yes, then they are not replacements for books. If the answer is no, then you're talking about an ereader.