/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General

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Any good fantasy with a little girl protagonist?

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I've been memed this is rubbish

>>8995452
>he doesn't like Loli princess adventures

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I recommend "Ready Player One", this book is awesome :)
Is about a video game simulation

>>8995429
is the new series really out this year?

>>8995471
probably gonna drop before it goes full bore lesbian street gang

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>>8995512
August 24, 2017

>>8995398
I want a book with characters I can fall in love with T_T

Im reading Ark Royal Series
3 first books were pretty ok 4th one was bad
Probably will finish it then read The Foundation

>>8995562
Hyperion

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>>8995398
Shaeönanra did nothing wrong.

Also, how come he refers to the Sranc as his children? Aren't they the children of Nin'janjin?

>>8995511
>Is about a video game simulation
No. Is about references to 80s movies.

>>8995675
who is this semen demon ?

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How good is the Malazan Book of the Fallen series?

>>8995675
Why didn't inchoroi give consult immortality like they did to nonmen?
Surely having some memory problems is better than being literal sack of shit

>>8995764
Really good if you like 11,147 page long epic fantasy.

>>8995787
For what purpose would they do that?

Also they could just be experimenting with different methods of achieving immortality

I'm reading the golden compass and I'm a bit iffy on something:

is severing supposed to be a metaphor for circumcision or castration? It's clearly one of the two since the describe it as a "little cut" they perform on prepubescent kids in order to keep them from thinking all the feeling all those things that come hand-in-hand with puberty

Castration seems the obvious one but circumcision kind of works too and while there are plenty of abrahamic mandates for circumcision I have yet to hear of one for castration that isn't exclusive for rapists or oxen

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i'm about 30% thru dis wan, bretty good

>>8995764
Old greek style metaphysics. Heroes might start mortal, but are quickly marked and do larger than life deeds. Gods are flawed and meddle all the time.
The author's anthropological background shows in the quality of the world building.

Writes great banter between characters, but I find the writing style as a whole lacking and had to take a break from reading the series after a while, despite liking it, because it was starting to get a bit grating.

One of the better examples of contemporary fantasy, but not quite as good as its rabid fans would like you to think.

sex and hyperviolence, if anybody's interested :

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8061588-de-sade-assassins

It it acceptable to have fantasy religion's symbol be the head of a growling wolf, or do the Starks of Winterfell have a monopoly on wolf motifs?

>>8996207
Is it*

>>8996082
I don't think it's supposed to be directly either. It has elements of both, as you said.

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>it's a Felisin chapter

everyone post your most hated /sffg/ POV's

>>8996233
Sansa

Fuck that cunt.

What do you guys think of the Witcher saga? I'm about halfway through The Last Wish, and I'm enjoying it so far. Is it one of those series that turn to shit fast, or is it consistently decent?

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>>8996257
>Hmmm, my audience seems to enjoy Geralt and his adventures. Guess I better make my full length books about Ciri and how awesome she is and how much her lapdog Geralt adores her.

What's a good story with a lich?

>>8996303
puella magi madoka magica

>>8996303
I think one of the Raymond E Feist books I read had a lich in it, but it was one of the later, shittier books.

>>8996233
>it's a Esmenet chapter

>>8996207
I dunno about the Starks but Norse paganism maybe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenrir

>>8996327
>my empress, uh, shit's on fire, everyone's dying, and enemies are besieging the capital with what appears to be an enemy sorcer-
>SILENCE! where is my baby boy! i want my son!

>>8996257
Last Wish and Sword of Destiny were great. I didnt like the saga novels as much.

Childhoods end > 2001: a space odyssey

Are there any Fantasy/Historical Fiction crossover books?
Are they actually good?

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>>8996530
this

>>8995667
Hyperion was great. Everything after it was shit.

>>8996487
You're full of shit
Rama>2001>city and the stars>childhoods end
>>8996327
Esmenet>Serwe

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Which series should I read lads?

I've seen the movies and the tv series.

Lotr looks to be shorter than asoiaf, and desu I'm struggling to find motivation to read asoiaf when I've seen so much of the show. However, it appears lotr can also be quite the slog at times, especially when describing Frodo and Sam's journey.

What say you?

>>8996580
Serwe wasn't even a character, she was a plot device.

>>8996591
Read ASOIAF if you like reading paragraphs about long steamy watery shits.

>>8996580
Never read Rama but you're just flat out wrong. The entire ending to Childhoods End is just an objectively better version of 2001.

>>8996591
Sounds like you can't really be arsed with either so don't bother.

>>8996629
>HURRR DURRR CUNTY FUCKING RESPONSE

I'M LITERALLY PLANNING ON STARTING RIGHT NOW FOR FUCK SAKE.

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Has anyone read the wonderland gambit series by Jack l. Chalker? I really enjoyed it and the mind fuck it presented in the idea of worlds inside worlds of vr. I was wondering if anyone knew of something similar.

Also, what was with the maddox coin at the end?

>>8996641
then read The Hobbit, then read LotR.

>>8995398
Does anybody know a good urban fantasy book. Not as much centered in things like detectives or hunter but more bakemonogatari-ish

>>8996592
We are talking about chapters though not characters
I couldn't stand serwe's stupid teenage mind
>>8996609
>implying ending is all that matters
2001 has sense of wonder, exploration and comfyness when reading.
Childhoods end has giant aliens reading books like if it's a fucking cartoon
>>8996591
Just read Sanderson or some shit

>>8996082
It's a dumbed down materialistic take on CS Lewis' portrayal of demonic spiritual destruction. The revelation that the daemons are manifestations of something internal to people in our world supports this imo.

>>8996688
I'd say Childhoods end has a good sense of wonder. The book keeps you guessing the whole time what the Overlords have in store for the human race.
I'll concede that 2001 has a more comfortable feeling, but you can't tell me the ending isn't phenomenal.

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>reread Warbreaker
>we'll never get the sequel

>>8996688
Would rather read about serwe's bastards being smothered than Esmenet pretending she's a 13 talent whore desu.

>>8996591
Get The Chronicles of Conan - Robert E. Howard

>>8995398
Any more of Esmi? Didn't know she's that hot.

>tfw 1 copper whore

ALso, where do you find this stuff?

>>8995787
I always just assumed humans weren't physically eligible to the same transformation the Nonmen went through.

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WHAT AM I ?

>>8996774

6 years

>>8996233

>it's a Shallan chapter

Bonus points for

>it's a Shallan interacting with Kalladin chapter

Do you think the audience of a YA fantasy novel could connect to a character who's missing his right hand? If so, would they car more if he lost it during the course of the story or if he was just born without it?

>>8997060
where's this comming from?

ALso, YA is a bullshit term, it's basically dumbing down a novel so idiot teenagers will buy it

>>8997134
or marketing.

>>8997060
YA audiences can identify with anything if it's angsty enough

>>8997060
Give him a hook, pike, chainsaw or something. Perhaps a leather pouch tied on the end. You know, flavor stuff.

>>8997060
Only if losing his hand makes him DARK and EDGY. THE PAIN OF HAVING NO HAND MUST RADIATE LIKE LIQUID FIRE AND SHIT SO DARK SO EDGY MUH HAND! HOW CAN YOU UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU HAVE TWO HANDS YOU DON'T KNOW MY PAIN MOM!

>>8997175
a hook. not a sharp one, more like a paperclip than anything else.

If it's missing from the start it would explain why he wasn't suspicious when someone offered to help him with his bags, thus resulting in him being robbed and the story kicking off.

On the other hand, if it gets cut off it makes for some drama.

Also, I have to wonder what's got more potential: just the hand missing or the entire arm

>>8997150
>>8997201
YA as in the Harry Potter demographic, not the edgelord anime demographic

>>8997214
Did you even read Harry Potter? Past like the fourth book it's 100% "WHY AM I SO EDGY AND CURSED OW OW OW YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND RON YOU DON'T GET ME YOU BUGGER! I FUCKED YER SISTER SWEAR ON ME MUM!".

>>8997214
And you won't get the Harry Potter audience with a cripple protag

>>8997060

Protag losing an arm and coming to terms with it could be done well. But it'd likely just end up similar to Jaime in ASOIAF

>>8996859
Is Kellhus a self insert ?

>>8997245
Bakker says that Akka is his closest self insert

>>8997256
nice try Richard

>>8997245
Maybe if you're schizoid.

>>8997234

the way I think it would work best is if he was doesn't really consciously angst about it. Granted, everything around him pisses him off, but it was missing since birth and he's long since learned to make do without it.

What bothers him isn't that he's missing his hand, it's people seeing him as cripple or weakling, as a result he overcompensates by trying to carry around too much at once and ends up dropping shit all over the floor. Deep down he knows that his missing hand really is a handicap but he refuses to admit it.

A major theme of his arc is weakness. He's short, he's missing a hand, he's not particularly athletic and the magical ability he possesses is comedically weak but he just takes the shit live throws at him and endures it. That stubbornness, that mental inertia of his, is what makes him strong

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>>8997060
>He's short, he's missing a hand
Literally Edward Elric (plus a leg)

>>8997256
>Akka is a cuck
>Akka is Bakker's self-insert

>Thomas Bible is a cuck
>Thomas Bible is the only POV character in Neuropath

Hmm
Hmmmm
Hmmmmmm
Really makes you think.

>>8997401
Don't forget angry

but no, edward is a a genius, a child prodigy in alchemy, can do alchemy without a circle and can kick your ass.

This guy is of more or less average intelligence, can't kick ass, doesn't have a fancy automail hand (just one of those clip hooks), and his only real superpower is that he can magically season food without ingredients, and since it's an actual chemical change he can't even use it to make health food taste good without it getting unhealthy

she's like a child in a room with adults talking

>>8997459
whoops wrong thread

>>8997451
Nothing against you anon but that sounds terrible
I don't think any audience, YA included, would enjoy that.

>>8997472
Any idea how I can make it not shitty?

by the way, I keep saying super power but it's not a superhero thing

>>8996233
Kvothe

I think it's time to give up writing once and for all.

Everyone I talk to tells me my stories are shit, including my own parents. What point is there in having all these ideas if every one of them sucks?

>>8997545
do you enjoy writing them at least? Sometimes better out than in either way.

>>8997414
It's almost like making your character get cucked is an instant way of gaining sympathy from the reader

>>8997571
more like condescending pity at best.

>>8997566
I like coming up with stories. I like fixating on every little detail. Writing not so much but I want to create something worth readings, worth publishing. If I can't do that then what's the point of trying?

I can't stop reading

I have an extremely hard exam incoming and I'm reading fucking fantasy

I've never read so many pages a day before

I'm trying to get into reading books and I'm intimitaded by lengthy books so to get things started what would be 2-3 short science fiction stories that would help me get into the habit of reading lengthier material ? I don't know what is considered short so I guess something like 30-100 pages would be good. Also I would prefer something that is not fantasy that would also contain a somewhat deep meaning to it so after finishing it I will have the chance to reflect the story in my mind and take one or two good things to stay with me.

>>8996774
Isn't he doong it after stormlight 3? That isn't that far away.

>Clench my fists as hard as I physically am able to
>Still don't draw blood

Are fantasy writers retarded or what the fuck, this meme is in so mnay books >lol clench so hard my palms are bleeding
It doesn't fucking happen in real life it has never happened and it will never happen because it's so fucking idiotic

>>8997628
depends how long your nails are I imagine

>>8997245
>>8997256
both Kellhus and Akka are self-inserts. There's a very similar phenomenon with Peter Watts in Blindsight, an author with very similar themes (and a fucking canadian too to boot), both Siri and Jukka are his self-inserts, Siri being a loser and Jukka a brilliant sociopath.

anyone read the Garrett P.I. novels?

Whats your favourite entry in the series?

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>>8995429
Moore spurdos
Saving the pic thanks

Meme question: So what books do I read after playing those three dark fantasy games?

>>8997683
if you want edge read Richard Morgan or Mark Lawrence.

>>8997472
please just explain to me what makes this so terrible? I literally can't fix anything if nobody tells me why my ideas are shitty

>>8997683

Play Dark Messiah of Might and Magic instead.

>>8997704
No lol.

>>8997709

Literally why not?
It's easily in the top 50 of the best games

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>>8997613
Pfft no. Won't even be considered until the next decade.

>tfw no Nalthis star chart
>tfw no Nalthis essay

>>8995562
Mazalan Book Of the Fallen Series. Way too many characters you'll love.

>>8995764
Worth the investment.

It has very different plotlines going on at the same time though, good banter and good characterization imo.

>>8997806

Unpopular opinions time: I believe Felisin was the best character Erikson has ever created, and the most relatable, if not likeable (to some) then she was a real human, not an insert of various tropes, I haven't read a single book that has a character who has topped Felisin so far.

>>8996233
Fesilin or Feather Witch for me. Fucking miserable cunts. The both of them.

And what the fuck happened to Fesilin the younger. I'm on Toll Of Hounds atm but I haven't had a peep of her since ages. Last I recall she got super fat, got mad at mirrors and had orgies. What was her purpose again?

>>8997817
Really? I don't disagree with your point about her being relatable. She's just so fucking miserable and ungreatful.

But I guess that's what Erikson was going for, which he did well.

Though desu, the best character for me was Karsa.

>>8997817

die
never come here again instead die
preferably right now
die

>>8997817
>>8997818

like pottery

>>8997060
It's actually already been done in The Queen's Thief series, which has done pretty well. In that series he lost it over the course of the story.

>>8996859
>Well first off, you should know that I don’t write fantasy – only hacks write fantasy. My books are about the triumph of the human spirit which just happen to have everything you would find in The Wheel of Time.

>>8997887
I thought this was making fun of the Sword Of Truth series at first.

>>8997683
Honestly there isn't an equivalent in the way you probably want.

My favorite fantasy series are the Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser stories and the Magicians trilogy, which I realize are pretty much on the opposite end of the spectrum (buddies going on badass adventures vs. college students struggling with and ultimately overcoming their insecurities).

Based on this, what epic fantasy can you recommend for me?

I lost interest in ASOIAF at some point late in A Clash of Kings. I don't like magic explained in detail like Sanderson tends to do.

>>8997915
mazalan

>>8997925
Thanks. I'll look into it. If you don't mind, was it in my post that made you recommend it specifically?

>>8997937
>Epic fantasy
>Don't like magic explained in detail like Sanderson.

There is magic in Mazalan, but the author doesn't bother explaining every single thing going on and just plops you right into the action leaving you to put the pieces together.

Also, it's a mammoth of a series. Each book is around 900 something pages or so. More or less.

>>8995452
Now it's a lesbian love triangle. Is fantasy Sharpe too much to ask?

>>8998045
It gets better

>>8998067
I shall persevere.

>>8997835
says on wikipedia he's gonna do a Toblakai trilogy after Kharkanas trilogy done.

>>8998086
YESSSSSSSSSSSS. Ty anon. I still haven't read all of mazalan though, gotta finish the main series then the rest.

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Well. I finally finished The Black Company. It feels like some great life's work has been completed. I have mixed feelings on the ending, but it was good overall and I hope Cook writes A Port of Shadows and A Pitiless Rain.

Does anyone else feel that Cook had some missed opportunities when it comes to emotional moments?

>Lady and Croaker's relationship, while good, deserved more screen time
>Croaker revisiting his home village, but saying little about it

>>8996671

Bump

>>8996671
>>8998198
Read Lev Grossman's Magicians trilogy.

>>8997698
know your audience.

>>8998213
look, I'm just putting the idea down here and someone tell me where I went wrong and made this unreadable.

The story follows a scrawny, one-handed boy named will who decides to hunt down the father who abandoned him after his mother dies from a debilitating illness

Little does this disgruntled half-pint know that his father is a godlike entity known as The Rat That Walks, and that he has inherited one of his father's most arbitrary and disappointing powers: the ability to change how anything tastes

>>8998212
>Read Lev Grossman's Magicians trilogy.
Thanks m8, really looking for reccomendations

>>8995398
not really impressed with aurang's dick there

>>8998236
I would read this.

Granted the power should still be that but somehow still be important. How? No idea but seems funny.

What has more potential

>girl discovers the theories of relativity and quantum physics in a fantasy setting
>theories of relativity and quantum physics are already discovered so she's discovering the weird physics of eldritch locations instead

>>8998518
believe it or not, I do have an explanation for how it's important. I said it changes tastes, but what I should have said is can change something's flavor

in the physics world, protons and neutrons are considered two flavors of the same particle (yes, flavor is the technical term). The difference between carbon and nitrogen is the flavor of a single particle

>>8998525
>discovers the theories
That sounds very wrong.

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>>8998170
I need to make a black company spurdo. Maybe with goblin, I'll make sure to have the smug frog grin in place.
>the arts of magic has got to be littrd with a sense of misdirection. Lady aka croaker's whore is not my leader, she is a virgin and probably soul catcher in disguise :DD. One eye and not kali ok. Praise the silent ones(are those his gods?)

>well. I finished The Black Company
you think lady rides croaker's enormous statue penis? She's got to keep him happy somehow
I heard a rumor years ago that cook was supposed to put out another black company. You know if it's true?

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>>8998241
>really looking for reccomendations
How bad you want them?

>>8997657
Love them. Petty Pewter Gods, but really they are all great.

>>8998598
do you discover physics or invent it?

>>8998617
>I heard a rumor years ago that cook was supposed to put out another black company. You know if it's true?

http://www.sfsignal.com/archives/2012/04/sffwrtcht-glen-cook-on-dread-empire-garret-p-i-and-the-dos-and-donts-of-writing/
>assuming I survive long enough to complete them. Port Of Shadows will take place in the interval between Black Company and Shadows Linger. A Pitiless Rain will follow on after Soldiers Live. The initial two parts of Port Of Shadows have been published already as short fiction, “Tides Elba” in Swords And Dark Magic Edited by Jonathan Strahan and Lou Anders. There was a Subterranean Press limited hardcover edition and a Harper/Collins trade paperback. “Smelling Danger” was in the Subterranean Press limited edition Tales Of Dark Fantasy 2 edited by William Shafer. I will be turning my full attention to Port Of Shadows as soon as I have cleared off some prior obligations.

As sad as it is to say, I feel like it's unlikely we'll see many more books from him. Apparently he had to fight with Tor just to get them to agree for a 4th Instrumentalities of the Night book, and he's 72 years old, he probably wants to go and do grandpa stuff with his family.

>reading Reaper's Gale
>Hellion decides to go full blitzkrieg during the invasion of Lether and run ahead of the news of her squad's attacks so she has time to get blitzed off her ass at every tavern they come across
>this turns out to save the entire operation since it was doomed to fail the way it was initially planned
Why is she the best girl?

>>8997571
>Sympathy
Is that why Akka is relentlessly mocked and bullied here?

>>8997744
>Poo in Doo

>>8998236
That sounds like a pretty obvious rip of of China Mieville's King Rat

>>8997744

You are Sanderson.

I won't believe your denials, you are him.

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Interested in Guy Gavriel Kay.
Which should I start with Tigana or Lions of Al-Rassan?

Also reccomend fantasy about holy orders, monks, etc.

>>8999564
Al Rassan definitely. Unless you don't like starting with the best.

>>8999566
Thanks, Al-Rassan it is.

>>8998617
Is there a one of these for Dune?

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>>8999584
Yea I think so, but I don't have it saved.

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>>8999564

>>8997817
I never see female characters in favorite characters lists for Malazan. Are they unlikeable or is it just a sausage fest?

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>>8999669
Wouldn't go so far as favourite but Masan is top tier.

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>>8999606
Found it in the archive

>>8999669

Because they're female, and Erikson knows how to write realistic female characters.
And since they don't have any sex appeal to people ie being attractive irl, they're not likeable.

>>8999564
Unhewn Throne has this.

>>8998646
You invent it to explain phenomena, and if it has predictive value, it's assumed to be at least somewhat close to what's actually happening (albeit filtered through the lens of human conception, context, etc.) and thus kept.

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Oh boy oh boy. Time to post my oc that triggers pol.

I'm thinking of doing another one where sffg is a brain, and the wannabe authors are quack doctors. The quack has someone's skull open "picking" their brain.
What you guys think?

>>8999818
I think you would be a lot happier with your life if you dropped this and did something of value with your time.

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>>8999480
He writes a yearly post detailing his current and upcoming projects.

>>8999818
cringeworthy, you should stop.

You can't fool me Brandon

>>8996641
You seem somewhat angry. Do you feel you have to prove yourself to this board of anonymous people? Do you think they care whether or not you read?

Can someone recommend me some good SFF about tyrants?

>Brightness...I believe you stray into sarcasm.
>Funny. I thought I'd run straight into it, screaming at the top of my lungs.

He can't keep getting away with this, you guys. Someone has to stop him.

>>8998539
You should've mentioned that by carbon you actually mean carbon-14, because you really rustled my jimmies there.

>>8999677
>that
>Fremen
Fremen are officially WHITE and BASED, not sure why the pic has him brown as a turd. They spend almost all their daylight hours in caves or sleeping in the desert in their tents during the day.

>>9000445
the isotope doesn't matter. As long as you change one neutron to a proton or visa versa it still applies

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>>9000445
>Fremen are officially WHITE and BASED, not sure why the pic has him brown as a turd.
Because it's Spurdo, Anon. I mean, Geralt of Rivia is white as chalk too.

>>8999669
i thought there were good female characters. like tattersail.

>>9000563

I'm reading through gardens of the moon right now and tattersail just burnt to a crisp

feels bad, tattersail was great

>>9000580
Anon...

>>9000476
Ohhh I see :3

>>9000459
Do you even know what an isotope is? In all conceivable cases in which a neutron becoming a proton or vice versa makes carbon turn into nitrogen or vice versa, the resulting isotope will exist for a few milliseconds, if even that long. Hardly enough to have noticeable effects on the world, especially in a fantasy novel. In cases of nitrogen or carbon having stable or long-half-life isotopes, none of them have the right number of protons and neutrons to be able to "become" a stable isotope of the other, except for nitrogen and carbon-14.

>>8999669
Hellian is pretty well liked. Personally I really like Samar Dev and Shurq Elalle too.

>>9000657
again, anon, this is a fantasy novel. I'm allowed to play fast and loose with the laws of physics. For fuck's sake, you're telling me how inaccurate my depiction of radioactive decay is but im trying to describe the powers of the god of the weak force.

>>9000445
Bullshit. White people get tans really quickly in the desert, it's the body's reaction to UV light.

>reading the Iron Dragon's Daughter
Why is Jane such a bitch?

Where's my mary sue?

>>8998170
>>Lady and Croaker's relationship, while good, deserved more screen time

It was fucking stupid.

>>9000697
>I'm allowed to play fast and loose with the laws of physics
Of course Anon, I'm just saying that if you're trying to use a pseudoscientific explanation, you might as well just have the official explanation be "the god of the weak force's power is/includes adding/removing subatomic particles to/from an atom". That gives you a lot more room for play and you don't need flavors. You can even have the difficulty of adding/removing increase with the amount of subatomic particles you add/remove, which means that people with this power have different ranges and skills and of converting. Just an idea.

>>9000815
Well yeah I mean, my hair is straw colored and I'm brown as a Mexican because I live in Florida, but the thing is, as I said, the Fremen live in caves and their stilltents pretty much all the time. They try to cover themselves up as much as possible.

>>9000881

>It was fucking stupid

Completely agree. It was far more interesting as a one-sided idealizaton on Croaker's part.

>>9000881
>>9001013
It might just be because I'm a sucker for romance and like the idea of the big bad evil falling in love with a mortal man, but I can see what you mean.

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>>8998617
>Lady aka Croaker's whore is not my leader

I don't think Goblin has any Gods mentioned.

>>9000974
I could do that, but i want to show my research and the point is that his power seems really useless, at least initially.

A lot of his character is built around making him one of the those people that life keeps kicking in the dick. Finding out he has a super power that's next to useless is supposed to be the icing on the cake

>>9000974
>>9001160


You might have a point though in that the distance between changing flavors and changing nuclei implies a few missing steps and would require a confusing exposition. Maybe I could have it start with him just making shitty food taste good and have him making jokes about turning lead into gold along with his fathers worshopers referring to him as "the alchemist" or "the transmuter"

>>9001118
Then it ws One eye talking about the silent ones?
I know One eye's believes were mentioned.

>>9001160
>>9001313

Yeah. Another issue with the whole flavor thing is that the flavor of food and drink isn't really related to the flavor of its subatomic particles. It's almost wholly dependent on the nature of its aromatic particles, which are mostly rings of carbon.

In my opinion you should either have it literally be magic, or have him be able to change subatomic particles...but only a little bit and a little amount at first. So, for example, he adds an electron to 0.001 grams of some ion. Wow...it's fucking nothing. Like, even he doesn't realize it. Then maybe he un-rusts a bit of metal. Then he makes water out of thin air (literally). And on and on until he can make an atomic bomb like the Consult do in The Great Ordeal.

And so his power grows, more and more people come from viewing him as some magic-doer to some kind of savior or god, and mighty factions in this world (including his father and those worshipers) begin to see him as a threat.

I think that would be cool. But if that changes the whole flavor of your work, do what you want my dude. You have a very cool idea though, no joke.

>>9001461
I meant odorants instead of aromatic compounds, sorry. BUT aromatic compounds are still very relevant since most foods, I think, get their flavor from aromatic compounds. Meats, greases, and oils are probably an exception, but they are still whole hydrocarbon chains that would require some drastic fuckery with the flavors of subatomic particles to change their taste. Whereas turning all the carbons into silicon would literally make it poisonous and nasty to eat to boot.

>>9001461
Thank you

I know it's not literal flavor, i just like wordplay and semantic superpowers

Having it be explained as some kind of alchemy works better and doesn't require an explanation of particle physics. Maybe i could do even better and say he can simply use flavors of things that aren't even edible, like making lead taste like gold, but then that might not explain why it changes material

Honestly, im trying to make this cool but a huge point was that he was supposed to be weak. Maybe I should reserve a power that strong for after he ascends to demigodhood

>>9001393
I don't recall myself, but it might be One Eye. Sleepy would be more definite.

>>9001706
Sleepy wasn't into magic. Some shit came up and one eye? Was talking about his gods or some such.

Gay retard here, what are some books that are heavy with lore and world building?

>>8995398
I have been reading nothing but literary fiction since high school and recently have been yearning to read more sci-fi/fantasy. I read Dune but dropped it halfway through because the writing was too cliche for me, and Gene Wolfe looks more up my alley. Is there a recommended progression through Wolfe's work or should I just start with Book of the New Sun? Any other recs for sff with literary merit?

Are there any decent books set in Warhammer fantasy ? besides Gotrex and Felix

I definitely did not post this same question in the wrong thread

>>9001832
>I read Dune but dropped it halfway through because the writing was too cliche
That's kind of like saying The Lord of the Rings is cliche.

>>8999818
I'm not even remotely triggered by this. Nice try cuckold, you should go back to blacked.com

>>9001850
>boring prophecy involving the main character who is also a child
>boring "action scenes"
>boring world building made to make you say "woah"

I could have written this book in 7th grade.

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>>9001832
:3

Anybody read the Ware series by Rudy Rucker?
Just finished the second book and it really is a different kind of cyberpunk.

>>9001835
Anything Dan Abnett is safe enough so the Malus Darklade stuff I suppose.

>>9001104

To be fair to you anon, I'd be interested in reading about something similar myself providing it was done well. I think it would have to be the central premise of the book to do the idea justice though.

>>9001835

As someone who has read bits and pieces of 40k and is making their way through the Horus Herasy books I'd definitely recommend most things by Dan Abnett, particularly the Eisenhorn and Ravenor trilogies. If you want some lighter hearted "flashman in space" type romps then the Ciaphas Cain series by Sandy Mitchell can be fun. Unfortunately the other 40k regulars are a bit of a mixed bag (I'm not a fan of Graham McNeil, for example) so you'll probably have to sample a few and see which you prefer

>>9001835
>>9002220

Disregard that, I'm an idiot who didnt see you were asking for warhammer fantasy recs

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Any good books where the characters frequently travel between different dimensions/parallel worlds?

>>9002453
Could check out Transition by Iain Banks.

>>8995398
Haven't read any sci-fi in a long while, which is odd because it used to be my favorite genre.

All I read any more is historical stuff or older fiction, last sci-fi series I read was Asimov's Foundation novels.

Can anyone suggest some more modern stuff that's actually good?

I picked up Niven's "Bowl Of Heaven" but couldn't be assed to continue past the first couple chapters, which is funny because I loved the Ringworld books.


I guess I'm sick of the larger-than-life super intelligent, handsome, rich etc. protags that seem to infest science fiction.

Are there any good sci-fi novels where the protag is a loser or a normie?

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Any portal fantasy where the hero finds his way back to his own world and life sucks big dick?

>>9002489
I dunno about loser or normie. Read The Quantum Thief.

Has anyone else had trouble picking one time travel mechanic and sticking with it?

My setting is supposed to have some kind of bizarre but internally consistent geography that means certain paths can take you backwards and forwards in time following stable loop rules, but there's a character who sees possible futures by living through them and uses them to learn skills quickly.

If I go with the former, it means the character who sees the future can't really do anything with their power, but if I go with the latter it's scientifically unsound and I can kiss any usable form of time travel goodbye. There's also an alternate possible version of the first one where he can see the future but at a really weird and hyperdimensional angle, giving the visions some wiggle room

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>>9002578
All rules of time travel besides fixed timelime are garbage.

>>9002588
I kinda sorta want the Multiverse idea to be true.

>>9002588
agreed but then the power is useless unless I remove the ability entirely and make it the ability to see in hyperspace instead, which I was planning on anyway but then I feel like something fundamental about the character is missing

>>9002602
If it is, you have to realize that it won't be your choices that make a difference. These things take place at a scale millions of times smaller than your neurons

I just finished reading the golden compass today and so far they're the only book I've seen that's gotten this correctly

>>8996107
me too my nigga. i'm diggin it

>>9002490
Portal fantasies where they want to go back suck big dick.

Defeats the purpose of escapism in the first place

>>9002620
>If it is, you have to realize that it won't be your choices that make a difference. These things take place at a scale millions of times smaller than your neurons

Yeah, I understand the concept to a certain degree, my desire is pure wish fulfillment, jump ship to a totally different version of myself that doesn't suck shit, doesn't even fit with the scientific theory, but I've imagined stupider shit.

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>>9001857
Did you take time off yesterday to go to the celebrations?

>>9002453
>good
Define good? Is good objective or subjective?
Try the magicians trilogy, iron druid chronicles,

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>>9002489
Fall for the red rising meme. If you're quick enough you will be able to meme with us when the new book comes out.

>>9002453
Golden compass trilogy

>>9002789
>Mars

>Red Planet

>Red Class is the laborer class

Smells like Red Faction in book form.

>>9002814
There are almost no reds in the books. It's mostly about the gold ruler class.

>>8999711
Unhewn Throne - is this good? I started it and I kinda liked that snapshot at the beginning of how the ancient race behaved but the reviews all shit on it.

>>9003003
You acquired the book. You even started it. And you LIKED it.
And you stopped reading because of some random minority opinions on the internet? Jesus.

>>9003020
Well I accidentally deleted the book. Which means I'll have to find it again.

>>9002789
Is Red Rising actually good, or is it a normie meme book like Ready Player One?

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6.5/10

Better than the first book but it annoyed me equally in different ways. There's some edge at the start but that mostly gets put on the backburner in favour of DELILAH THE GREATEST EVER who somehow manages to make it to the final round in the magic olympics with only 4 months of training from a self-confessed bad teacher because the plot demands it. Ends on a cliff hanger that could have been entirely avoided if Kell hadn't lost complete control of his wits for half a second because reasons.

>>8995764
It suffers from poor editing, and the magic is so ill-explained that it might as well be Deus Ex Machina. It has its good points though, the second book's military chapters are phenomenal.

>>9003090
First book: starts out like shitty YA novel, turns into Roman Hunger Games for no reason, ends on a promising note
Second book: Great book with lots of twists kills every good character.
Third book: forgettable beginning, randomly goes to an arctic place for loads of filler chapters, kills some more characters, ending is terribly anticlimatic and cliched.

>>8997894
>>8997887
I was going to say, Terry Goodkind looked way different when he was younger lol.

>>9003092
I preferred the first book personally. I agree with most of what you've said though, I found the series to be mildly frustrating because it has a lot of elements that I like but it goes full retard in patches.

>>9003117
Eh, I'll pass then. Too much stuff in my backlog to waste time on it.

How the fuck does it take people so wrong to write, I'm genuinely curious. Is there like another process that I haven't found yet beyond sitting down, pulling out the internet and forcing yourself to hit keys? Even at the slowest that's like 2k an hour. You could realistically wrote a YA novel in a weekend if you just pounded it out.

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A trilogy that I liked but it never actually delivered on the interesting premise of a multi bodied entity set up in the first book.

First book promised a very vast world but the second and third books were more insular with some great comedic moments - but it was far less novel than the first book as the protagonist lapsed from interesting to a more generic protagonist.

Ending of the third book was anticlimatic which seems to be the ongoing theme in /sffg/.

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A very descriptive/immersive book with excellent worldbuilding. However, the mystery took a little too long to unfold and I didn't believe that much was achieved at the end of the first book and as the second and third books aren't out yet it's hard to judge how good the series will be as a whole.

Had some difficulty empathising with the characters.

>>9003126
I think it's worth reading if you run out of backlog. In my opinion only the second book was worth it though.

>>9003131
There are two major barriers to entry.
1: Output
2: base level quality

In fantasy in particular the latter obstacle is fairly minimal because nobody is good at writing anymore. The former is the big problem. If you can crank out 40k words a day, even if it's garbage, you'll find a niche somewhere. Probably women's romance.

>>9003132
Second book was so shit I couldn't even finish it. Shame, the first one was great.

>>9003147
The first one was great. It's all downhill from there.

>>9003131
Hey Brandon

>>9003152
If that Mormon rat could write fast I'd be skipping Jasnah chapters to get back to Kalladin already.

>>8998045
Maybe try Powder Mage

>>9003131
Mostly planning and editing. You might be able to write 20k words per day, but they're not likely to be particularly good without some planning of the pacing, structure and overall narrative arcs, and unless you're some kind of savant your writing is going to need editing for clarity and general readability after writing at that pace.

>>9003146
>nobody is good at writing anymore

This unfortunately.
Plenty of modern books have great character and story ideas, but once you start reading it becomes apparent that the author doesn't quite know how to use the strengths of the written medium and the whole thing comes off as a rejected script for a TV series.

This can still be entertaining, something to read when bored, but not something I would recommend for someone else to read who isn't into this genre.

Even pulp fiction needs some standards.

>>9002490
the two later trilogies of the Black Company feature Portals and "going home" prominently, as the Black Company had originated actually beyond a portal and came only as visitors / conquerors to the world where most the Books are set in.

And it is pretty much:
> Finally we endured all this hardship to reach the portals and go home
> well fuck, "home" aint Home at all
> the other home aint Home either
> FFFFFFFFFUUUUUuuuuuuu

>>9002588
see, that infographic is pure garbage. All you need to implement in order to make timetravel work is:
> The Universe has a Degree of Uncertaintay
> Timetravel doesn't end you up in exactly the spot you wanted to go
> Timetravel doesnt end you up at exactly the time you wanted to go
> Some Events and Human Decisionmaking are to a degree random

Thisway, you can have single "fixed" timeline and "dynamic" timeline as described in your graphic. Either your actions change the following future in such a way that a paradox loop is created - in which instance said loop will be iterated through billions or even endlessly many times before a random set of environmental factors and accumulated human decisionmaking will result in a stable future ( thus being a variation on "fixed" timeline ),
or your actions are of such a nature that you don't fuck up the future and don't create a paradox in the first place ( which you'd never know - as far as you know this very instance of you reaching this conclusion is the billionth iteration of your timetravel experience ),

also, this might in each instance create a multiple timeline ( if you so wish ) and have further and further diverging branches of universes.

>>9002588
>>9003322
the secret for reliable timetravel is to make a gameplan - being the timetraveller - which shouldn't create paradox ( as far as you know ), be really fucking careful... and NOT try to affect changes which will create a paradox, but only such changes of which you know certainly that they will only take effect in the subjective future from before you embark onto the timetravel.

Travelling backwards in time, this way, is a way of influencing only your future - but never your past.

>>9003131
I can't even write that quickly for fanfiction. You have to plan out the plot and settings and ending. And I find that it's two rounds of editing MINIMUM even for something 5000-7000 words, heavy editing scenes removed, scenes edited and scenes left intact and expression tidied up. And a second general grammar check. Two to three days minimum.

With something longer it's even more planning, more chances of getting stuck in a plot hole, more need for chapter reareangement and selection.

I guess I could shit out 20,000 words in a day but it'd be low quality rambling.

>>9003234
I might at some stage. Thanks.

>>9003256
There's a pretty simple explanation for it honestly. As Publishing has become more digitized, Editors have effectively ceased to exist. Instead of actually editing, the role of an editor is to skim over the material and make sure it's in line with whatever politics the publishing company agrees with. Rather than being Editors, they're just glorified proof readers. With that lack of quality control, potentially good authors never learn how to get better, and the few good things that actually do come out end up buried under a mountain of shit.

>>9003563
So do you mean to say that if Le Guin wasn't already a big name, she couldn't get The Dispossessed published today by anybody but AK Press because it's anarchist science fiction and not wishy-washy middle-of-the-road vaguely liberal but with no real internal consistency or commitment science fiction?

>>9003003
It's very enjoyable, UNTIL FUCKING FRATRICIDIAL ADARE.

FUCK ADARE
I hope the new book has Hull's chosen disregard everything and KILL ADARE

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>>9003092
I hope the haters of Night Angel Trilogy, who never read the book, but shits on it hard because of the cover comes and attacks this book.
>shadow silhouette
>holding blades
>larger than life, too big for his world to contain him(walks on the map)

I'm waiting to see many people start shitting on this novel for no reason.

>>9002490
Play Nox.

>>9003777
I like weeks but don't try and pretend night angel isn't edgelord as fuck

>>9002588
The first and second ones are also completely useless. If you are aware that you are in a universe with them, you don't even need to do anything: a white supremacist went back in time to make sure slavery never get repealed? Well, he obviously failed, just continue sitting in your chair. Even if it's the third option without the caveat that alternate timelines are destroyed: so what, he gets to create a slavery timeline, big deal, no effect on our timeline and we're rid of that guy forever since he will only be able to come back by fixing everything.

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>>9003139
>you're doing a bad job shilling this book
You need to up your game desu

>>9003786
I was coming off my /co/ stage when I read that book, and having bleeding edge armor that is sentient was something that made me diamonds.

I enjoyed the fuck out of it, I don't even know what edgy is. The book wasn't bad, I didn't cringe reading it. What's the problem? Someone wearing a cloak in a fucking Kings and Farmers era?

Jesus nothing pleases you guys, and some of you (autisticly) behave like a book about soul eating armor (or the other stuff written today) must follow logic, or modern reasoning and discovery.

Case in point, the Kingkiller series, those ninjas who are ignorant of how you actually get preggers. You know not everyone has access to modern reasoning? You know that during the era these ninja women breed they could be believing different shit because of elder passing on outdated information, or because of religion. You guys go into a fucking fantasy book expecting modern explanations and modern behaviors. You are ridiculous. I'm not saying wise man's fear is good, I'm just saying you are reading a book that takes place before the invention of gunpowder, and you are applying 21st century reasoning.

How's the Temeraire series? It looks girly but I'm looking for something light.

What is the coziest fantasy out there?

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Any sci-fi novels or short stories which deal with the concept of humans being a parasite species and originate elsewhere in the universe while another species arrives and claims to be the original owners of Earth?

>>9003131
you're not going to pound out a novel in a month and have it be original or anything beyond bargain-bin trash

you have to think of original ideas

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>>9003886
I think Discworld is pretty comfy.

>>9003891
iji

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>>9003969
Post yfw Pratchett is dead

>>8996298
Joke's on you, son. At least the Ciri chapters were action packed, unlike the "woe is me, the eternal anachronistic witcher that I am" bawfest that were the Geralt chapters.

>>8997060
Robert Jordan pulled it off quite nicely in WoT. Read that and decide for yourself.
bonus points for it not actually being YA[/spoiler/]unless you count Rand and Perrin's eternal angst

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What are some /sffg/ books that feature a virtuous character by old-fashioned standards overcoming an immoral world?

Works that are not considered fantasy but do share some elements work as well

>>9003132
>>9003147
Yeah. Second book was basically the main character ruining a teenager's life because she was mean to another teenager. ("hold my tea and watch this")

The third had some potential, as it actually showed some military stuff, stuff like the AI cores, and didn't kill off the only interesting new character (the Translator) pages after they appeared, but didn't actually deliver on anything else.

They felt like contractually obligated sequels.

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>>9003328
>not embracing paradox

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>>8998485
>>8995398
>not really impressed with aurang's dick there

>>9004196
The Vagrant

>>9004191
It's weird cause you could turn WoT into a YA story with only a few tweaks. Switch men and women's roles in the story, so only men can use magic and women are cursed, Rand is now a young woman, and the white tower is full of men, and they really do control everything. Bam, you have a generic dystopia so common to YA stories.

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>>9004167
>mfw
One less Terry author.
Remember, avoid any author with the name Terry.

>>9004358
>BIG
>FLESHCRAFTING
>COCK

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>>9004400
>implying he wasn't top comfy and in a separate league from Goodkind and Brooks

>>9004358
So.. when I read the first trilogy .. how does he fuck the person faced crow? The pic is the guy that called her a 1 talent whore right? That later fucked that person faced crow?

I don't often ask for book recommendations but I read the short story The Night of the Long Knives and it was amazing, never really read anything like that even though I've read other works by Lieber.

Based on that one book, what would /lit/ recommend me? I really wanted that story to continue, or to read other stories in that universe.

I just finished The Worm Ouroboros, /sffg/. Holy shit, what a ride. Near the end I had to put down the book every couple pages because it was just too intense. The climax where Corus poisons everyone while Gorice is conjuring was aesthetic as fuck, the ending is constantly foreshadowed but then shown from a completely unexpected angle. When Corinius had to watch Carcë being overrun through the window while he was paralyzed I got the shakes a little.

10/10, would listen to public readings of.

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>>9004411
Delete this picture

>>9004426
No this is the human headed crow. You're thinking of the knight.

He can shapeshift at will, but for reasons he's limited in the time he can spend out of crow form since that's just a simulacrum.

>>9004426
Aurang can remotely control certain host bodies, called synthese.

He has a human body and the crow body that we know of.

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>>9004428
Lieber you say?

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I wish to pet his big squishy head.

>>9004452
>The overreachingly religious writings of a man sparked a chain of events that led to this picture being created half a century later

... really makes u think... eh....

>>9004449
I don't browse this board often so I don't know sarcasm when I see it, what's wrong with Dahlgren, Conan, or Fafhrd?

Those are the only ones on that list I've read, besides Lord of the rings which everyone has read. I guess I was looking for post apocalyptic fiction but I wanted it to be more like Wasteland and less like Fallout 4.

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>>9004434
You nearly got me interested senpai, nearly. Shill harder next time and I might bite.

Instead of telling me it has big breasts, give me a glimpse of thigh, maybe an "accidental" peak of cleavage. You need to instill a longing in me desu.

>>9004490
It's bait. At least, I hope it's bait. A lot of people here have really strong opinions about "dinosaurs"

>>9004517
Ah OK, so it's an ironic recommendation list, I'll check out some of the other stuff on that list then.

>>9004491
>So, in the golden autumn afternoon, in the midst of that sad main of sedgelands where between slimy banks the weed-choked Druima deviously winds toward the sea, were those two men met together for whose ambition and their pride the world was too little a place to contain them both and peace lying between them. And like some drowsy dragon of the elder slime, squat, sinister, and monstrous, the citadel of Carcë slept over all.

You can probably tell whether you'd like it by whether you like that paragraph familia

>>9004490
Dhalgren is shit.
Conan is shit.
Fag Mouser is shit.

The thing with this general is that their > yours.
When I talk about bakker, lynch, Sanderson, weeks they fly into a rage and spew everywhere (most spewing haven't even read those books).

Now I listened to them and read the books they say is all the rage
>the books are shit
I tell them this, they feel their likes are objective and speaks for the entire world.
>get called tasteless pleb

tl;dr I am behaving just like the "elites", the books I sampled by those authors were shit, therefore everything by those authors is shit.

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Why did no one tell me Beagle wrote a new unicorn story? This is good shit
http://www.tor.com/2016/12/07/the-story-of-kao-yu/

>>9004452
Why does he have a person's face inside a xenomorph's(movie alien) head?

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>>9004537
It said to avoid them...
>on lit can't read
this pic isn't ironic in the least

>>9004539
This whiffs of the buried giant (literary fiction stroking it's word cock without anything of the fantastical).
No thanks.

>>9003886
Temeraire is good. It's basically a Hornblower style story but they use dragons instead of ships.

>>9004542
because the first one was shit and we had no intention of reading the second
no gri no buggering of the unicorn the unicorn didn't even peg him
you would think a book named the last unicorn would be about that unicorn looking for and taking all kinds of dicks to breed with
disgusting

>>9004537
/lit/ is bad for recommendations in general. Essentially you either get the guys in the rest of the board who kick and scream the moment GENRE FICTIOOON is mentioned, and the people who go too far the other way in there and refuse to read anyhing but Jordan, Sanderson and Lynch and treat everybody else with mild disdain.

>>9004552
Because he is a member of a race of immortal alien fleshcrafting degenerates

>>9004540
Why not just recommend what you like, pretend you're in a vacuum and that other anons opinions don't exist

>>9004577
Buried Giant had a dragon, several knights, and a mysterious magic fog, what are you whinging about?

>>9004605
>refuse to read anyhing but Jordan, Sanderson and Lynch and treat everybody else with mild disdain.
Or you get the guys who read everybody else published before 1980 and treat anyone published after 2000 with hearty disdain. It's almost as if the like shitting on others tastes.

>>9004600
You know there are books that exist for something other than wanking, right?

>>9004611
So he looks like that to strike fear into men?

>>9004552
the same reason that australians grew mouths: bantz

>>9004645
>memory eating dragon, Arthurian knight, magic meme fog
>muh philosophical discourse on human memory, love and loss
>really prime fantastical stuff
Fuck off

>>9004706
>Books having themes beyond simple adventure story is a bad thing
No u

>>8996303
Adventure Time

>>9004718
It could have all the themes it wants, but "muh humanity" is shit. People read fantasy to get away from humanity, not to have everyday problems repeated ad nauseam, and certainly not to read about how the 10% good outweighs the 90% bad(fuck your grey) and we shouldn't nuke everything because of that 10%.

>If I hear the name Axl and princess again imma cut a bitch

>>9004718
>read a genre primarily about adventure and escapism
>demand that it engage in philosophical masturbation
What's the matter, actual philosophy too hard for you so you have slum it in genre fiction and pretend like you're still an intellectual?

>>9004605
>the people who go too far the other way in there and refuse to read anyhing but Jordan, Sanderson and Lynch
I've been coming here for a long time and never met one of these people. I've seen the occasional Jordan fan and more than the occasional Sanderson fan, but nothing that suggests they read them exclusively.

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>tfw the autists start going at each other
Doesn't anyone here read for fun?

Struggling to get into Viriconium. Should I persevere?

>>9003777
The gathering shadows covers are bad but they're downright classy in comparison to night angels.

>>9004774
>read a book and expect it to have BOTH adventure and escapism ALONG WITH more thought-provoking stuff
Either one without the other would make it bad.

>>8997611
The Island of Doctor Death and Other Stories and Other Stories is a great collection of short sci-fi stories. They're all real thinkers.

>>9004924
If scifi and fantasy provokes your thoughts it's likely you've never used your brain for anything except memorizing trivia for Star Wars or other inane shit. But hey I guess everybody's gotta start somewhere!

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>>9005088
Hang on, which is it - nothing in SFF could be thoughtful and interesting because it's all "Star Wars trivia or other inane shit", or Buried Giant is bad because it's got too much philosophy?

>>9005165
Neither, you responded to a troll.

>>9005165
I need to make a macro for these pseudo intellectual that behave like having philosophy in fantasy is something thought provoking.

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Was stuff supposed to be vague or am I retarded?

i just ordered dune by frank herbert and now the flowchart recommends it to me

>>9005594
enjoy

>>9005594
Top jokes I also have that. Got it yesterday but I'm going through Battlefield Earth first, and then The Once and Future King, then Dune, then I dunno.

I have two Jack London books I want to crack eventually

>>9004303
The Translators were really amusing.

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>tfw you finally solve the issue with how your character's power fits into their personality only to realize it spits in the face of every theme you and your story stand for

>>9005547
Any specific examples of what you're confused about. It wasn't to difficult to understand for me.

>>9002453
This right here!
>>8996662
It was good too. Well, i already said that.

>>9005412
>I need to make a macro
No.

>>9005945
there's a way to fix it anon, i believe in you

>spits in the face of every theme you and your story stand for

is not necessarily a bad thing if there can be an explanation for why

give more details!

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>"You are my bright penny by the roadside. You are worth more than salt or the moon on a long night of walking. You are sweet wine in my mouth, a song in my throat, and laughter in my heart."

>"You are a luxury I cannot afford. Despite this, I insist you come with me today. I will buy you dinner and spend hours waxing rhapsodic over the vast landscape of wonder that is you."

>"I will play you music. I will sing you songs. For the rest of the afternoon, the rest of the world cannot touch us."

JUUUUSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTT!!!

>>9006425
Kek, Rothfuss is such a fucking fedora neckbear

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>>9006410
the character is a scientist at heart who has seen geometries and geographies which defy rational explanation and wants to apply Foglio's law to them (any sufficiently analyzed magic is indistinguishable from science)

An entity decided to invest in her quest by giving her a set of glasses with a pair of knobs at the end. turning them allows her to rotate and displace her vision in any dimension (including time and hyperspace). She believes there's a rational explanation for how it works but given that she has no way to take it apart without breaking it she uses it in her research

Later she finds out that it doesn't work with other people, which she brushes off as some kind of biometric device.

Evnetually she loses the glasses, much to her dismay. However, when she goes to turn the knob subconsciously it works anyway, revealing that the glasses were just a magic feather. it was always her power to begin with.

Unfortunately, this kind of implies that it's magic and/or something she can't explain