Why does evil exist? Why does one come up with idea to kill,

>>8932431
probably some reddit-using fedoramancer

>>8932431
pic unrelated amirite? :^)

This might not be relevant to the discussion, but:

You should've chosen a pic of some commie like Stalin or Mao to illustrate your point better.

A better question would be why goodness exist.

>>8932431
Check out Jordan Peterson. He has tried to answer the question why people abuse others, even if it goes against their own self-interest. Such as the nazi's that ramp up the killing of jews while they need the resources for the war as well.

A video, much more on his channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLp7vWB0TeY

Also you can read his book Maps of Meaning but it's quite difficult.

>>8932440
>>8932438
>>8932442


lol he must be a redditor if he thinks hitler was genuinely 'evil'. what a brainwashed idiot.

>>8932431
babby's first questioning of human nature

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>>8932431
slave morality etc.

>>8932431
>Why does evil exist
Evil does not exist because morality does not exist.

>>8932431
everything exists in duality

>>8932513
Try the redpill, fucking retard

>>8932431
I read something somewhere recently that some Nazi (maybe hitler) said that it was not inhumane to kill diseased animals to prevent the spread of disease. That's the logic they applied to the Jews, disabled, homosexual etc.

>>8932513
More like evil doesn't exist because it's the privation of good and therefore not a substance.
Also so called "natural evil" can always be reduced down to free will being the essential cause.

>>8932527
really makes you think

>>8932431
Are you asking for the final cause or the essential cause?

No men sets out to do evil.
Everyone just does what they think is best to solve their current problems, independently to what is objectively the best course of action.

>>8932540
Be careful. Someone might report you for comments like that. This isn't /pol/.

>>8932551
and the thought police will come and get me?

>>8932542
Nope.
Check out the diary of the Columbus high school shooter guy.

>>8932559
The mods will. Trust me. I get banned often for trying to redpill /lit/ to the Jews. Just looking out for my white brother.

>>8932565
I mean Columbine

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>>8932542
What was these fuckin guys' problem, then? Unsatisfied lust to torture?

https://ripeace.wordpress.com/2012/09/14/the-murder-of-junko-furuta-44-days-of-hell/

>She was kidnapped by a group of young men, including a 17-year-old who was identified as ‘Jō’ and would be later given the surname Kamisaku. They kept her captive in the house owned by the parents of Kamisaku, in the Ayase district of Adachi, Tokyo.
>DAY 1: November 22, 1988: Kidnapped
Kept captive in house, and posed as one of boy’s girlfriend
Raped (over 400 times in total)
Forced to call her parents and tell them she had run away
Starved and malnutrition
Fed cockroaches to eat and urine to drink
Forced to masturbate
Forced to strip in front of others
Burned with cigarette lighters and set off fireworks in her ears, mouth, vagina
Foreign objects inserted into her vagina/anus including a still lit light-bulb

>>8932431
You're a retard. Not only is your conception of "evil" typical of a sheepish pacifist, you are implying that a good world is one without the will to "kill, rape or torture or abuse".

Not only is it simplistic to assume that all infliction of pain is inherently bad, your utopian views negate the reality of life as an animal. WE ARE ANIMALS. We struggle to survive. We steal from others to make for ourselves. Your success means another man's failure. Do you honestly give a shit about Chinese slave labor beyond virtue-signalling? Why should you? Animals literally each each other alive to survive, and there is nothing wrong with that.

The reason we're attracted to drama is because life is an interaction between opposites. Without pain, there is no pleasure. Without night, there is no day. Everything has this kind of antithesis that gives us our meaning, and a world of pure bliss would be meaningless and worthless. DRAMA IS INHERENT TO LIFE, AND INCLUDES GOOD AND EVIL WHILE BEING AMBIVALENT TO MORALITY. LIFE DOES NOT DIVIDE INTO GOOD AND EVIL, BUT ACTION AND INACTION

>>8932591
>whiteknighting this hard

She probably had it coming by being a filthy slut. Fuck off back to plebbit

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>>8932569
>Just looking out for my white brother.

>>8932431
>Why does evil exist?
Evil is a description of a psycho-social phenomena
>Why does one come up with idea to kill, rape or torture or abuse somebody in any other way?
Competing social, psychological and biological (esp. Neurological) pressures will, if left unchecked, lead to,destructive behaviors
>but humans commit acts of cruelty worse that no animal can compete in this regard. Is it a lack of empathy?
Categorically incorrect. Animals have been known in nature to commit intentional murder, rape, genocide and even war. The difference is only one of scale - and even at great scales the amount of 'evil' perpretrated by any given individual is rarely excessive. The pilots who bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki are guilty only of having tossed a boulder, the men who built the bombs little different from clockmakers and the generals who ordered it built human fax machines

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>>8932569
>I get banned often for trying to redpill /lit/ to the Jews. Just looking out for my white brother.

>>8932624
>>8932632
We must stand together in this time where we are marginalized and oppressed. Look out for each other on the chans, and cherish white opinions

>>8932638
your cause is pathetic

>>8932431
Did you use Hitler to point out the antithesis to what you call 'evil'?

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>>8932632
I can't tell the difference between irony and sincerity any more

>>8932431
>Why does evil exist?
Because humans are fundamentally evil.

>>8932658
>While for the jews you don't have much to be empathetic for.
This is the same argument that blacks use for why whites are evil. For any population that wants to be great, there will be equal amounts of good and bad coming from the same will to be great. The Jewish race is full of liars and manipulative nation-wreckers, but they're also full of geniuses. Jews have a higher average IQ than whites, which is why they have prevailed. You blame them for simply beating you at your own game, much like how dindus blame whites for their failures.

>>8932527
Wow so you read SOMETHING, SOMEWHERE that SOME NAZI said.

I guess the Nazis really were evil after all.

reminder /lit/ along with /tg/ and /co/ are all reddit colonies with buzzing hives of little robot bees posting their pleb opinions

>>8932697
And? Do you think whites were fair when warring with other cultures? When colonizing Africa?

Greatness does not recognize morality. You're simply envious of Jews and sublimate that envy into hate.

The Nazir were evil meme needs to die. -_-'

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>>8932700
Do you admire this? Because I do not, neither do I admire whites for colonizing Africa. In fact, Hitler heavily criticized the brits and his anti-british propaganda was based on their colonial abuse.

>>8932703
This but unironically. WW2 was so destructive and pointless that the government had to work hard to simplify it to a "good vs evil" Marvel storyline for the masses. It's not as simple as that, it never is. Geopolitics is far more complicated.

>>8932715
The conquest of white culture was never more moral and upstanding than the conquest of the Jews. Again, if Jews were moral they also wouldn't be geniuses. Every group wants to become dominant and powerful, and in this there is no good or bad; just success and failure.

>>8932715
hitler was a fucking imperalist you dumb fuck. why do you think he tried to invade russia?

>>8932732
You praise power and think that whatever you do is irrelevant until you achieve it. Sorry, at this point you are just praising jewish tactics. I never said I liked "white culture", especially when you present it as an immoral "success or failure" conquest for power. Hitler sought a new and noble way, yet you think the end justifies the means. When the end itself is completely immoral.

You are no better than a Jew.

>>8932746
The war was an unfortunate event that led to the destruction of National Socialism in Germany. Hitler was not an imperialist though, he was an irredentist, that's the closest thing you'll get.

>>8932760
You're a slave moralist and you're using dindu logic here. Jews outmatched whites. They succeeded and are thus superior to whites in the same way that whites are superior to blacks. You can bitch about your abstract "morality" but the fact is you're simply full of ressentiment.

And do you really want to get rid of Jews, when the Jewish people have the highest portion of geniuses than any other group?

Abybody has read The Banality of Evil by Arendt? If so, how was it?
The BBC documentary on the Eichenmann trial was interesting and I'm considering picking it up now

Also I want /pol/ to leave

>>8932780
there are no unfortunate events in history and imperalism is always justified in some way or another.

>>8932784
Sure, Jews might average higher in IQ than other ethnic groups. But do you consider how many diseases they transfer from? How prone to mental illness they are?

>>8932675
I know, my memory is fallible. Sorry.

And you know what? I found it.
http://skepdic.com/holocaustdenial.html
>[Hitler] said: “This is not cruel if one remembers that even innocent creatures of nature, such as hares and deer when infected, have to be killed so that they cannot damage others. Why should the beasts who wanted to bring Bolshevism be spared more than these innocents?”

>>8932658
no hitler became a vegetarian because meat made him fart like a dog

its hard to take someones political opinions seriously when theyre guffing like a choo-choo train

>>8932431
>Hitler
>Evil

Good Goy.

>>8932528
Evil definitely exists, probably even in more ways than goodness does. People would be bad by default until they are conditioned into being good.

>Hitler
>Evil

This board is bluepilled as fuck

>>8932591
You forgot that they dropped dumbells on her and that when she died they put her in a vat, filled it with concrete and buried it in a lot.

This reminds me of a quote from the introduction of a copy of Leviathan I have, "all voluntary actions are the result of deliberation, which is calculation of the chances that this, or that action will gratify one's appetites".
A decent amount of Leviathan is about stuff like this, and I'm pretty sure Hobbes pioneered the idea that humanity is naturally "evil" or at least naturally self-serving

I think every action someone takes can be seen as how does that action serve themselves, doesn't work all the time but I find it does a lot in today's society. It's not 100% though, some stupid people take actions that are detrimental to themselves and others, but it is something to think about OP

>>>8932431
>Why does evil exist?
Jews and the CIA. Seriously.

>no stupid questions

>>8933385
>>8933460
>le nothing wrong with killing innocent individuals xD
>inb4 the holocaust never happened
Of course it's much less black and white than people make it out to be but please stop shitting this board up with /pol/ memes.

>>8932431
gay ass post senpai
genocide yourself

>>8934668
>le haha pol memes are such a serious issue they are so wrong!!! GRGG what? of course ! the holocaust happend! its not like HUH! STOP i dont believe in pol stop saying THAT ! im not joking i dont go to pol ok >:/