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"not even I know if these charts are the originals" / "loli protagonists for 2k17" -edition

Fantasy
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Science Fiction
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Last thread: >>8907223

Any /sffg/ new years resolutions?
books on the horizon this year?
writing goals?
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>>8912858
my resolution is to submit more of my shorter shit to various magazines etc
as for reading, not sure. Ian M Banks?
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>>8912858
Arkady <3
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HYPE HYPE
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>>8912858
She's cute.

Give me books with young female protags OR books with lots of young flirty girls around the male protag.
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>>8912883
>wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_of_Nothing
> This trilogy details the emergence of Anasûrimbor Kellhus, a brilliant monastic warrior, as he takes control of a holy war and the hearts and minds of its leaders. Kellhus exhibits incredible powers of prediction and persuasion, which are derived from deep knowledge of rationality, cognitive biases, and causality, as discovered by the Dûnyain, a secret monastic sect. As Kellhus goes from military leader to divine prophet, Drusas Achamian, the sorcerer who mentored Kellhus, comes to realize that his student may well be the harbinger of the Second Apocalypse.

so it's Dune without the spaceships
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>>8912864
I'll shill this. Under-rated non-culture.
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>>8912895
kek there's more
>Cnaiür urs Skiötha
>Serwë
>Nersei Proyas
>Krijates Xinemus

I hope Baka provides a pronounciation guide
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>>8912902
He does.
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>>8912895
It's dune's and lotr's ripoff and kellhus is the most blatant self insert character I've ever come across.
That said, I still enjoyed reading it. It's just perfectly dark and comfy for me.

>>8912902
>I hope Baka provides a pronounciation guide
Why do you fags care about pronunciations? Just read how you see it in you mind. It's not like you're reading something worthwhile which you will be discussing in public. lmao
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>"Green areolas surrounded the many nipples of the great lakers"

I can't fucking write this can I
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>>8913035
I'm dying
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>>8912883

the last book truly was a slog of slogs

DUDE THE CRAZY ELF DUDES ARE ACTUALLY DWARVES
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>>8912900
That book was top tier right until the end. It could not have been more underwhelming. I wouldve preferred an ambiguous and poetic ending more like Blame! than the little bow it ties itself off with.
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If I hate The Hunger Games for being childiish without character development will I also hate Red Rising or does it have good characterisation and less YA-feel?
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>>8913018
The face of a man that grasped the absolute!

And no, it's not a dune 'ripoff' ... dune was good but it aged like shit
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>>8913749
Nope, it's a YA book through and through and the characters are cringy.
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Just finished reading this. Why is it so acclaimed? I didn't think it anything special.
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>>8913782


will I enjoy this book if I'm a fag and hate women?
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>>8912884
you can imagine any MC as a flirty girl if you want, you can even pay an artist to ilustrate it.
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I want to read something that is really exciting. A page turner so to say.

What have you got for me /sffg/?
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>>8913851
Red Rising. Not even joking
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>>8913867
"All men are not created equal," he declares. Tall, imperious an eagle of a man. "The weak have deceived you. They would say the meek should inherit the Earth. That the strong should nurture the gentle. This is the Noble Lie of Demokracy. The cancer that poisoned mankind."

The first page. Sorry but how exactly are you supposed to read this without facepalming every few seconds?
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>>8913885
sounds pretty alt-right, that's really hot right now.
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>>8912883

AHAHAHAH!

Best news of the year.
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>>8913901
I'm assuming this represents the villainous element.
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>>8913885
>To be a Helldiver, they say your fingers must flicker fast as tongues of fire. Mine flicker faster.

wew
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>>8913963
I know pseuds ITT are always talking about how the series is redpilled or whatever
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This entire fucking book is The Hunger Games: Nothing Personnel Kid *teleports behind you*.

Whoever recommended this shit, fucking kill yourself.
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>>8913782
Neo /sffg/
>Little girl protagonist
>Where can I get more books like Warhammer/Star Wars/This retarded vidyagame that I love
>Retarded anime series like Witcher Series/Sanderson/Weeks
>Whatever normalfag flavour of the month is popular like Red Rising
>Spurdos
>ebin book reference in my vidya xDD
>where do I download books
>Cancerous metaposting - Hugo shit, Vox Day shit, Goodreads screencaps
I'd be surprised if you faggots have a single good taste left in your fucking body.
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>>8912858
Here is a fantasy book that does not suck. Happy New Year /sffg/.
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>>8914072
Add onto that list "people using the phrase >neo /sffg/
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>>8914072
the fandom has been filled with autist and people with poor taste forever, even those who read stuff with some historical value get shit on all the time by others with different tastes.
I mean, Dune is used as an example of a great scifi book and besides being PoliSci101 it's a pretty bad book, the prose corresponds to manuals the editors published besides it...
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>>8913782
Setting way outside the norm for fantasy, edgy without aping GURM, alabaster is cool for a fag, loli protag for a third.
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>>8912900
I prefer The Algebraist.
The plot was predictable at the end but the aliens' life style is pretty shill.
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>>8914172
Against a Dark Background is by far the beat non-culture Banks book.
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>>8914072
what's on the oldfag /sffg/ list?
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>>8914178

>muh lazy guns

been ages, might actually re-read this.
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>>8914180
Gene Wolfe
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>>8914072
I've been here since the beginning and they've literally always been like that
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>>8913720
I seem to recall something like 'and it was a feersum endjinn indeed.' Not the best.
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>>8912883
>The man in the dinner plate scowled as the little girl played with her broccoli.
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>>8914280
The feersum endjinn was some device that would move earth farther away from the sun. It came up on literally the last page. The book had been so great up to that point I actually laughed out loud.
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Does /lit/ know of any fantasy/sci-fi books having to do with horses? Particularly sexual romance with horses, male or female? I'm just curious to see what's out there. I know Brightly Burning and Aprentice Adept, but I'm short on unicorn/horse stories. :( Not sure if this is the correct thread.
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>>8914313
Yea he really did pack a lot into that one.
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>>8914319
The horse and his boy?
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>>8914293
>reading her facial expressions and body movements, plate man had predicted every bite the little girl would make.
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>>8912883
I got the feels when Koringhus killed himself
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>>8912895
It's Dune combined with LotR and rape.
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>>8913018
>kellhus is the most blatant self insert character I've ever come across.

Man I didn't even realize.
>tall Norsirai with flaxen hair, scholar of philosophy etc.
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>someone defended Rothfuss on the other chan

I can't believe 4cuck is less reddit than the other chan.
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Books that have zero-g sex?
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>>8913749
Red Rising characters are fine. Darrow especially changes a lot through the series, you can watch his motivation shifting even when he's not aware of it. A lot of my series highlights are characters moments. Darrow keeps trusting people he shouldn't and not trusting people he should, it's a great dynamic.
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>>8914049
>he didn't stand up and cheer when Darrow stormed Olympus
What a pansy.
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>>8912761
>I had to teach this to 13 year olds during my education practicum
>I still don't know what their teacher was thinking
Did you pop a chubby while reading?
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>>8913749
Read it the ya feel is only the finger in the air whistling shit. After that I was addicted.

PUSH through that finger in the air shit. Don't be that first page then drop anon.
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>>8914072
>Goodreads screencaps
Shit... I was gonna post my year in books
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>>8914072
>being this new
>pretending he is old

>>8914235
This
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>>8914049
I bet you dropped it near the starting, and now you are pretending as if you can judge the entire book on those hunger games snippets.
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I know nothing about /lit/ culture but these are my favorite sci fi and fantasy novels. How pleb are my tastes?

>pic related is sci fi
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>>8914696
And fantasy
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any good? started reading some and it seems like a good premise, plus there's 2 more books.
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what are some good sites like tor.com that have interesting short stories? I need something to read while I wait for new books to come out
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>>8914696
>>8914699
Pretty mainstream and entry level taste. If these are the best you've read then it suggests you never waded very far into either genre.
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Did anyone see the show "Magicians"? I read the book a while ago and it was.. well it was alright. A bit inconsistent with the magic stuff but in the end not all that bad. Had one of the best sex scenes though.
Saw the show appear on Netflix, anyone think it's worth a watch?
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I disliked this book all the way through but then it had a great last sentence. Now I don't know what to make of it.

Anyone care to argue for it or against?


Posting on the right board this time
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/sffg/ are these ideas stupid enough to be funny?

>character is a master thief. He has no magical abilities, but is just insanely good at stealing. it escalates to the point where he pickpockets someone's stomach to steal an artifact they swallowed without them noticing and then later pickpockets a speedster's completely uninjured leg in the middle of a battle to steal their femur, causing them to collapse when they try to run at the speed of light

>the difference between witches and normal people is that witches have things in their cells called mitochloroplasts, which use lunar photosynthesis to fuel their magic, which is why their rituals involve dancing around naked at the full moon. The photosynthetic pigment turns the witch's skin an ugly green shade
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Any other good books about unapologetically selfish rogues like Jack Vance's Cugel?
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>>8912902
Just embrace you inner pleb and listen to the audiobooks.
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>>8915082
I disliked it too much to finish it.
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>>8915082
Well, I liked it a fair bit - it's one of those where the plot is kind of loose and meandering, and the characters aren't particularly deep, but you encounter enough weird people, places and creatures along the way to make it worthwhile. In particular he's got a great eye for the monstrous, with Mr. Motley and the slake moths being well creepy. What did you find bad about it?
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>>8913018
I don't even like Bakker all that much, but Annaassascrimshaw is NOT a mary sue. He's supposed to be a creepy alien sociopath autist, very convincingly playing as a human
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>>8915104
HALP
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>>8915074
I watched the first season and I'm awaiting if "what does the fox" do is greenlite or not in the second.

It helped pass time.
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What are some good places to read fantasy short stories?
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>>8915102
First sounds like locke lamora learns medicine (if you read thw books you would get the meaning)

Second sounds like star wars meets all the other witch books I read(kim harrison, the book of life trilogy etc)
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>>8915119
I didn't like that new world elements were introduced "just in time" to use them. It was quite a rich world and it would have been nice to seem him put the pieces on the board before playing them out. Or to make their unveiling deepen the experience with each. But it was just here's one thing, here's another.

I loved how The City and The City spooled out its secrets and was dismayed to find it done so poorly here. It was like he was just pulling random bits out of an old trunk.
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>>8915151
>if I spam the same question more than once they might ban me faster
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>>8915159
the second one WAS supposed to be a parody of midichlorians and witch stereotypes
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>>8915143
I was surprised at how cute that scene was in the book, it worked quite well and I think it might be hard to translate into a visual medium since the book describes a lot how they feel in these moments, how it's different from their usual selfs and all that. And of course: animals in tv. So it's likely gonna be terrible CG foxes? I don't know man. But I just read that the show mashes the first and second book together a bit so I guess I'm gonna read the second one first then.
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>>8915177
>>8915143
Oh and also Imagined the characters quite a bit different.. in my head the girl was more of a mix between Misaki Nakahara from welcome to the NHK and Hermione from HP with a bit of more forwardness mixed in for good measure. From the trailer it looks a bit like, everyone's a super edgy millenial (for lack of a better term), but not in a "what people from that time are really like" but more in a "this is what old people think millenials are like" They seemed more like parodies of themselves than actual characters.
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As someone who is a pleb that only started reading books recently, what would you guys recommend? I've read most of Lovecrafts stuff and the last thing I read was Childhood's End. Is there anything like that?

I tried looking at stuff in the OP and it all sounds so generic, I want something with an interesting premise.
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>>8915177
>>8915186
Oh.. you talking about the arctic fox tests... that happen in the show already... i was talking about a different fox...
Also the person who plays alice is walking sex. Jesus fucking christ. There is no way a nerdy girl like her would have been a virgin in the books if she looked liked the tv version.
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>>8915323
What interests you? Are you a filthy degenerate? Do you like philosophysing? Does tech get your blood pumping? Does the military? Does politics? Did you never grow out your wizarding stage?

Pick something in the pic and run with it.
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>I remember reading about 'memes' - the notion that belief systems evolve and reproduce like organisms - in Douglas Hofstadter's Metamagical Themas, and coming up with the idea of a 'meme-master' - what would become the character of Kellhus. The story slowly grew from there.
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now that 2016 is over, who do you think were the best debuttante authors in sci fi?
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>>8914471
The Expanse
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>>8915397
Literally /ourguy/
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>>8912858

this picture was the still on a youtube video with a really great slow-paced electronic song, and the image gradually scrolled up.
anyone know what it was?
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>>8915397
>it's real
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>>8913671
Theyre hairless elves who act like dwarves

remove consult remove consult
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>>8915118
That last sentence is a masterwork.

It's like he wrote a good book and distilled all of the goodness out of the whole and concentrated it into the last sentence.
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>>8914692
The entire first book book is Hunger Game shit and the third book is the science fiction cliche where the psycho faggot Jackal is threatening to blow up a planet with nuclear warheads and the Mary Sue hero successfully disarms it.

I have never read a book that was so irrefutably garbage.
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>>8915639
>he missed the actual themes of political rejuvenation and the cyclic nature of mankind's history
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>>8915699
>"cyclic nature of mankind's history"
>he thinks empires rising and collapsing is "cyclic"
Pseud detected. I bet you've got a folder with frog images and Rene Guenon PDFs you millenial faggot lmao.
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>>8915699
>this anon put more thought into his post than the author put into the book
Really makes you think about the book's ruined potential.
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>>8915082
what is the last sentence again?
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Has anyone read this series?
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>>8915714
But it was a dream all along.
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>>8915714

"And then suddenly . . . ah, but that story is saved for another night."
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>>8915718
Truly my favourite childhood series. (Well, other than the Keys to the Kingdom.)
I loved the lore, the worldbuilding (Ki:mera, the auma, the bears) with the Ix/Dragons/Fain.

Creativity and auma was treated in such a fascinating and nuanced way.

I was so sad when David died.
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>>8915714
It was like the wet fart of a book congealed into something amazing, just in that last bit.
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Is there anyone better than Asimov at creating golden last sentences?
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Is this good?
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>>8915699
As written by a 22 year old. Get a clue m8.
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>>8912895
actually there is a spaceship
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>>8915129
>I don't even like Bakker all that much, but Annaassascrimshaw is NOT a mary sue.
I never said he was
>He's supposed to be a creepy sociopath autist, very convincingly playing as a human
Yes, that's basically scott "so what if i smoke weed" bakker
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I'm reading red rising too, around halfway in book two. Really like it so far, thanks whoever recommends it often, the autists whining about it smell like outer /lit/ and tumblr.
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Is there any translated scifi/fantasy by Japanese authors that isn't a "light novel"?
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>>8915872
Yeah but J->E sucks and you shouldn't bother with it. Just learn the language.
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>>8915837
the first two books are well paced, that's about as complimentary as I can be about them
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>>8914049
That actually sounds fucking awesome. Can anyone confirm if this is accurate? I would totally read that.
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>>8915891
You have to be 18+ to post on 4chan.
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>>8915837
Well if you enjoy bad characterisation where everyone randomly betrays everyone for plot convenience, contrived Hunger Game scenarios, Harry Potter grade houses, bland Mary Sues and superficial mythological references inserted to give this work some pretence of gravitas you will enjoy this book.

It's edgy as a fuck with necklaces made out of human teeth, cannibalism and ISIS faggot literally wearing some guy's ribcage which is impossible to take seriously.

The author somehow manages to kill off every remotely interesting character leaving only the shitty ones which is a feat in itself and then tries to pander to tumblr by including a literal faggot pining after a man.

Absolutely disgusting.
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>>8915877
The action is done pretty well, don't have many complaints with the plot since as you said it's well paced, maybe a bit predictable with the twists since I called almost all of them out but the few I didn't were nice surprises. Characters are fine for the most part if you can ignore or even appreciate the coldsteel the edgehog element to them, since it kind of fits in a silly dystopian setting.

>>8915891
I read the hunger games way before the movies, hated it for the characters and horrid plot in books 2 and 3, so yeah go for it, it has some similar elements but is done way better. Surprising to some people but even us who enjoy dumb action have some standards for what is good dumb action.

Which people like this >>8915903 obviously could never get into no matter what, why even read something that is clearly not meant for you, I bet you're the kind of person who whines about Arnold's acting in his older action movies.

>which is impossible to take seriously.

That's the point you fucking retard.

>bad characterisation where everyone randomly betrays everyone for plot convenience

Blatant lie, hell most characters outright say they'll betray him but not all do.

Also read what mary sue stands for before using it, thank you.
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The end of the first book promises Darrow and insurrection from within against Augustus who is a decent villain.

Instead what I get is Augustus suffering from plot induced stupidity and greed who is killed by a spoiled edgy teenage brat who makes Kylo Ren look well adjusted when he launches his hare brained scheme to use 500 nuclear warheads to decimate a whole bunch of planets which conveniently comes with an off switch.

Eo and her stupid song, whatever the school yard bully is called and Darrow need to be removed from existence permanently.
The Jackal should have stayed dead after the end of the first book.

The entire cashcow milking Hunger Games plot should be glossed over or shortened and instead the conflict/politics surrounding the Proctors should return to the fore. The first book should be inserted into the second and the second combined with the third. Remove the stupid nuke plot and make the main antagonist Octavia and ultimately her son backed by Augustus rather than the cringe tier teenager retard.
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>>8915837
It's because it's gone too mainstream, e/lit/ists don't like that.
>>8915903
Every betrayal was justified and easily anticipated if you've got some basic grasp on character motivation.
Also "the HG scenario" (note there is only one) is about media culture and terror, RR was about culling the weak to keep Society's elite strong. It's an analogy only superficial readers would make.
And you spazzing out about character deaths and cannibalism doesn't make a good case about you not being some idiot with tumblresque literature values.
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>>8915950
Fitchner replaced with the underdeveloped, predictable and chronically unentertaining Sevro.
Augustus replaced with a literal manchild.
Ragnar replaced with a literal who tier female clone.


The author builds up interesting characters only to piss them away like water. Killing a character is well done if you do it once or twice and have strong characters to replace them but Pierce has none left as ammunition.

At the end of the trilogy are a whole bunch of dull tired characters as every other interesting one has been repeatedly culled for shock value which makes the book terribly uninteresting by the third.

And for all the good that the 'HG scenario' has done for testing physical finesse and prowess none of these are actually used in the second and third book.

Want culling? What about a test of endurance after being dumped in the vacuum or initiative when piloting ships or initiative during simulated missions? The HG scenario was a mistake.
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What are some good hard Scifi books?
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>>8916028
Blindsight
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>>8913018
>hates any rand
>writes randian hero
Baker is a cuck king.
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>>8916028

The Quantum Thief
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Red Rising was pretty OK. I liked how the author wrote the romance between MC and main girl. Side characters all seemed to have their own plans which gave them a lot of life.

I didn't like how he developed characters. Sevro especially, damn, what a badly written character. It was like the author had an idea of how every character should be but couldn't figure out how to make them like that in the first place.
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>>8916171
>Side characters all seemed to have their own plans which gave them a lot of life.
It's a peculiar quirk/strength of the writing. Despite the first book being a complete shit pit plotwise you can feel that the characters have their own agendas but are enslaved to the plot in a bizarre fashion.

Then comes book two and the characters express themselves more intelligibly and organically in a more cohesive plot.

Then comes book three which starts out more strongly before devolving into what I see as an absurd ending.

I feel that his characters really do come alive but with varying degrees of development which greatly affects how much I like them and there are some characters significantly more developed than others.

Interesting how much as I complain about fucking plot (books 1 and 3) and the edginess the chapters never feel overcrowded with characters or the worldbuilding empty. This author makes the world come alive in an organic way other than the weirdly joined words. I really do feel that the constant real life myth references are used unnecessarily as a crutch when this author could effortlessly come up with ones of their own.

The prose of this book is very good in spite of how much I shit on the other aspects. It feels 'just right' in terms of the balance between dialogue and description and the author has a little unusual talent with the sentences which crops up in places.
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More than anything, I'm surprised by how many people here have read Red Rising.
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>>8916252
*
In any case, although I shit on these books a lot, to end on a more positive note rather than several more pages worth of negativity, bait posting and blogposting there is a glimmer of what I want to see more of in his subsequent books.

Less Hunger Games cashcow and more original plot. Cleaning up the plot twists a little, honing in on the most impactful ones. Maybe slightly downsize the cast a bit more and rely less on culling it down so drastically. Editing out the bad cliches and just generally editing out the unnecessary bad crap.

I just hope that this guy doesn't let fame get to his head because there's promise in this one maybe with more adults and less of a YA chosen one bent.
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What release are people most looking forward to this year?
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>>8916276
I think a lot like to verify for themselves that some popular zeitgeist thing is indeed shit.
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>>8916292
That's literally the reason I read Name of the Wind. It was even worse than I expected.
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Is The Forever War worth reading? I'm heading to a book store in the next few days and I've been meaning to pick it up
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>>8916292
Mixed results.
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>>8916288
Probably Sins of Empire, but I haven't really been paying much attention to what's coming out.
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Sincere question: How is Sanderson so popular on the internet, especially on Reddit?

From my exposure to the mainstream web, people compulsively boycott any author right of centre-right on principle (See: The guy that wrote Ender's Game)

And yet we have this mormon, which /leftypol/ insists is /regularpol/, who is currently the talk of the town in online book discussion communities.
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>>8916299
yea no brainer.
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>>8916288
Hopefully Scott Lynch gets a grip of himself.
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>>8916312
Holy shit is he actually a mormon? He totally writes like one. Every character of his lives in a PG13 universe.
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>>8916312
He's vaguely prudish but is there really much there in the content for a leftist to rail against? Don't think so.
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>>8916312
Because popular mainstream sites like Reddit are mainly left wingers.
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>>8916320
>is there really much there in the content

I don't recall much inflammatory content in Scott's work either yet there's a long hate bandwagon on him for "muh homophobia" and everybody is largely silent about his work.
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>>8916312
Sanderson is about as SJW as it gets for a Mormon

>>8916288
unironically Oathbringer (Stormlight Archive #3)
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>>8916324
If Sanderson were to express similar views on gay marriage I doubt he'd get a pass.
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>>8916312
His stuff might be SFW and there's nothing inflammatory about him, he generally behaves very respectfully/modestly towards fans unlike Rothfuss and his massive ego and tries hard to be inclusive/open minded in his books eg Jasnah.
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>>8916338
Sanderson says that he personally doesn't agree with gay marriage but will put it in his books iirc.
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>>8916324
>>8916312
Also I'm pretty sure (certain) that Scott is way more well known and influential in his works and public persona than Sanderson.
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now that 2016 is over, who do you think were the best debuttante authors in sci fi?
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>>8916374
care to name some?

I don't think I read any debut fantasy novels in the last year
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>>8916391
or sci-fi I should add
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>>8916352
>but will put it in his books
Why? There's no reason to do that if he doesn't want to.
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>>8916402
Pressure I suppose. I remember reading a blog post he wrote a while ago about how people ask him all the time when is he going to write a gay character. Also Tor is his publisher and I'm sure they'd be keen about it.
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>>8915074
Quentin talks too fast which is annoying but otherwise decent
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>these people who didn't understand the painfully obvious themes of red rising
>these are the people who you share a board with
>they recommend things
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>>8916288
Oathbringer
The Prefect sequel
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>>8915397
He sure looks like a meme master...what a face
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>>8916288
>touching staveley after book 3 and adore
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>>8915734
Oh God thank you. I literally know no one else who has ever heard or read these books.

It's been one of my favorites.
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>all this red rising
Brings joy to my heart. Help me finish the spurdo guys.
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>>8916460
RR is fine as a simple YA plot-twist adventure power-fantasy and I was entertained while reading it and await the possible movie adaptation. But the book isn't as deep as you make it out to be. I constantly cringed while reading because it is immature and blunt at times (the excessively beaten dead horse named Eo for example) and I am a few years older than the YA target demographic.
It's a pretty decent YA book but not more than that. I didn't find any of the sci-fi parts new or interesting and I'm a bit saddened that such "sci-fi" won the goodreads readers choice award.
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>>8916412
>>8916402
>>8916338
>>8916337

Recommend me books where the author isnt forced into writing politically correct themes/characters by the publisher. The modern SJW fantasy crowd made me stop reading modern fantasy for a while but id like to get back into it.
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>>8916622
>The modern SJW fantasy crowd made me stop reading modern fantasy
lmao you got cucked out of a hobby
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>>8916622
Would've said Miles Cameron but he literally put a he/she in the last book.
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>>8916590
>it's an Adare chapter

the other females were good though which is a bit of a rarity.
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>>8915397
wtf I want to read prince of nothing now
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>>8916622
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>>8915397
heh
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>>8916658
Didnt really like pyrre that much
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>>8915932
The Jackal was pretty poorly used, true. I was waiting the whole series for Darrow to make him chop off his other hand but it never happened.
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>>8916622
You could try checking the right-wing reaction. Their output isn't very high so the Sturgeon ratio is outrageous but there are a few good ones. Some people really like Brian Niemeier, Cirsova's pretty loud (can't actually vouch for the stories in it I read), John C. Wright always has great ideas but it's like someone unscrewed the top of his Papistry shaker before they passed it to him.
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>>8916622
Neal Asher doesn't fuck about.
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>rereading Warbreaker
>all the Mormonism early on about sex and low neck-lines and general T'Telir fashion
small amounts of ree
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>>8916736
This
Neal Asher and Bv Larson
>tfw I have a fellow neal asher anon
W-were you shilled Asher by me per chance?
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>>8916806
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>>8916374

Stevian Heartbound
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>>8916808
would like to say yes but irl friend put me onto him a few years ago. I'll check out Bv Larson though.
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>>8916412
Well he's a pussy. He doesnt owe his """"fans"""" anything
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>>8916823
Didnt elland's dad say shit or fuck or something once?
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>>8916828
3...2...1
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>>8916931
Silence in the forest had damn a lot. I was surprised, but seeing as he was writing for GURM he had to take off the kiddie gloves.
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>>8916957

Ah storm it
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>>8916942

The guy asked a question and I answered
What's your problem
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>>8916318

This so fucking much.

Which is probably why Reddit loves him so much. They love inoffensive, easily digested meme bullshit.
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>>8915747
How 'bout you read it and tell us?
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Im trying to remember the name of an old really stupid series of books. It had about 10000000 books and every one was about really bad puns set in some fantasy land.

Name just got lost in mists of my mind... Remember reading many of those books as a kid.
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>>8917088
what exactly do you remember about them?
character name?
setting?
writer's name?
time of publication?
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>>8917096
Every book had the same name of the fantasy land on the cover, and then the name of the book itself. Don't remember more than that.

Short books. published atleast before 90's. maybe continued to publish after.

all the books are about puns. Everything in them are puns.

Different characters in different books. I think there was some continuum.
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>>8917088
>>8917107
Xanth.
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>>8917107
Xanth?
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>>8917109
>>8917111
thanks a ton, gonna do some nostalgy reading.
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>>8916622
I'm a part of what some people call the "alt-right" and it feels punk as fuck. It feels like an actual counter culture, or rebellion against the PC culture that dominates American colleges.
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>>8917121

Christ are you fourteen years old?

The only people as pitiful as anti-intellectual college campus SJW's are the gullible mooks who think that being a reactionary is anything more than being a reactionary.
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>>8917121
Reccomend fantasy novels please.
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>>8917181
My diary desu
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>>8916622
Try abandoing trash tier fantasy. The same advice goes to every other retard in this thread.
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>>8914319
Maybe Cherryh's Nighthorse series?
They won't fulfill your pony fantasies, but the psychic bond arouses riders when the horse is rutting.
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>Sorweel could scarce breathe. His spit seemed gravel for swallowing.
>Two pale forms against depths of grey and water-green, the one slight upon the one hard, locked in a clenching, quivering embrace.
>Kissing as though the other possessed the sole breath.
>Grinding, their groins famished, piercing and knowing.
>Never had he witnessed such a thing, breath-stealing, filled with rage and horror and imperious lust. He was not who he was for seeing it. Not one of his concerns survived the trespass before him. Not his father. Not the Tear of God that would avenge him.
Nothing mattered save this...
>The children of a god mating. The woman he loved betraying...
>His little brother called out for him. He found him, grasped him, cold fingers opposite a burning palm.
>And he coupled with the sinuous image writhing before him, arched in answer to the man's black-haired grunting, spilled his seed to the girl's high blonde cries.
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>>8917232
>She lowered her head to his chest in carnal exhaustion and lay there, her breasts kissing the barrel of his chest, her back bent to the arc of an oyster shell. Sorweel stared, held motionless by the shock of his dwindling ardour. Shame. Elation. Terror.
>Knowledge that he could not move without alerting them robbed him of the ability to breathe. He stood stupefied as she turned to him and smiled.
>He ducked in abject panic and shame.
>"Who are we," she called out in a drowsy laugh, "for you to abuse yourself so?"
>He fumbled to fasten his breeches, then stood, knowing that the shadow of his lust could still be plainly seen. But it was almost as if their shamelessness demanded he be brazen in return. She climbed from her slack-limbed brother, stood in the dappled sunlight, entirely naked, and at one with the wilderness for it.
>How? How could she do this to me?
>Tears burned in his eyes. Did he love her? Was that it? Was the son of Harweel such an errant fool?
>She stood utterly exposed before him, her limbs lithe, her hips narrow, her pale skin flushed for the violence of her passion. Sunlight drew the shadow of her breasts across her white ribs, made golden filaments of her sex.
>"Well?" she asked, smiling.
>Indifferent, Moënghus began dressing at his leisure behind her.
>"But—!" Sorweel heard himself cry like a fool.
>Her look was at once demure and arrogant. Moënghus glanced darkly over a muscled shoulder.
>"You're brother and sister!" he blurted. "What you... you did... is a... is a..."
>He could only stand and stare at them incredulously.
>"Who are you to judge us?" she cried laughing. "We are the fruit of a far, far taller tree, Horse-King."
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>>8913782
>Why is it so acclaimed?

isn't the author black and a woman?
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>>8917232
>>8917247
kek bakker truly is a king of cuckfiction
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Is BoTNS a good starting point for Wolfe?
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>>8917232
>>8917247
>>8917310

I wonder if he gets an erection while writing this. Also...What does his wife and Daughter think of his cuckolding fantasies ?
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>>8917327
yes
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>>8917327
no
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>>8917204
Make a suggestion.
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Anyone ever consider making poll of /sffg/ top 100 favorite writers or books?
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>>8917359

Would To Kill A God make it to top 100?
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>>8917365
Probably, but hopefully not.
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Looking to start a new Trilogy for the new year...

Is Mistborn any good?
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>>8917331
>fantasies
I fear he's beyond that
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>>8917374
Not really, it's aimed at the YA crowd.

These are good trilogies, take your pick:
- The First Law
- Divine Cities
- The Broken Earth
- Coldfire
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>>8916727
>>8916736
Thanks for the reccs, didnt see anything there that really caught my eye. Think i'll go for the Malazan series, seems pretty well regarded.
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I know Lieber, Howard, and Lovecraft for classic "weird" sci-fi/fantasy. And I know China Mieville and Mervyn Peake for so-called "new weird."

What's some other good fantasy with weird/horror elements? In particular I like stuff like Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser rather than "it's hopeless, we're all fucked" like much of Lovecraft's work.
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>dude insects lmao
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>>8914696
>>8914699

Both books are about a young boy being a savior to all humanity. It reeks of Christian influence and shonen "insert yourself here" type characters aimed at developmentally and socially stunted men and boys.
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>>8917382
I think there's a 90% chance that he got cucked as a young man and it has haunted him for years.

>>8917466
Is this dude any good ?
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Anyone know when the last book of pic related will ever be finished?
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>>8914696
>Card hates the gays
>book has multiple naked wrestling scenes
>title anagrams to "same gender"
lmao
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>>8917481
He's pretty average desu, try it out if you like culture worldbuilding.
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>>8917507
There's nothing sexual about kids being naked in shared showers/rooms. Did you not have siblings or play sports or anything?
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>>8917466
This guy will never be the top entry for his name in a search engine unless he picks a pseudonym
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so The Quantum Thief came in the post today

what am I in for /lit/?
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>>8917374
Yes, Mistborn is good. It's just a story, though. The thing I like most about it is that each book has an ending.
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>>8917491
He should have ended it after book three or four.

First few are good though.
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What's the reason for the obsession with muh runes in fantasy?
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>>8913018
>kellhus is the most blatant self insert character I've ever come across

Bakker forcefully sodomizes his most devoted fans?
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>Want to request recommendations from /sffg/
>Have no fucking clue what I want in a fantasy book
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>>8916391

I asked in part precisely because I can't
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>>8917724

To Kill A God
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>>8917692
Truly the deepest work of our time
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>>8917247
>Soweel in TGO

How can one character be so based?
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>>8917667
It's an old Norse mythology thing
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Would it be completely unique in a fantasy novel to have virgin based powers and a secret cabal hire a bunch of assassins or hitmen to seduce them so they get depowered?
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>>8917766

Write something original instead of basing everything off real life, it's not even fantasy in this case
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>>8917766
>virgin based powers

There are tons of autistic religious fantasy authors

>and a secret cabal hire a bunch of assassins or hitmen to seduce them so they get depowered?

This is where it's cooking
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>>8917617
>I take a deep breath. 'We need two things to qupt to the Planck brane.
>One: matter that is entangled with something over there. That will have to be your department.
>By the sound of it, the Spooky-zoku have something like it.
>Two: we need a modulated gravitational wave source. We are made of stuff that is stuck on this brane, but gravity sees the higher bulk dimensions.
>Make a big enough bang and its gravitational echo will carry there.
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>>8917450
Good choice imo but big commitment.
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>Farseer trilogy - Robin Hobb
>Stormlight Archive - Brandon Sanderson

If you were me, which one would you read?
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Tolkien sucks
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>>8917845
Latter. Farseer is bad.
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>>8917845
Sanderson. Not much of a choice.
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>>8917845
Stormlight

Farseer is cuckcore with no excitement
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>>8917857
>>8917863
>>8917866

Can I read the Way of Kings as a standalone story or is it the first of the quintology?
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I love the Game of Thrones book series but I know GRRM will never finish them. What are some good SIMILAR alternatives that are already finished or soon-to-be-finished?
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>>8917886
Malazan
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>>8917886
GRRM a bit more distinct than is readily apparent. Could try Abercrombie.
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>>8917717
You want picaresque rogues with no moral compass!
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Can I axe you guys a quick question?

Did anybody else struggle when reading Dune?

There's so much description of sand and rock formations that I am unable to comprehend. I have no reference point for the environment. There are so many terms used that I am completely unaware of to describe the surroundings. Makes me constantly feel like a dumbass.
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does anyone else feel bad about re-reading things? I'm going through The Grace Of Kings again and feel worse about doing so

I could be reading short stories right now or probably some fantasy set in colonial/civil war america, but instead I'm doing re-runs
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>>8918038
Do you feel bad about listening to the same album twice? Or eating the same kind of food?
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All of these book reading clubs in outer /lit. What book should SFFG read, of genuine quality, together?

In my mind, there is no competition with BOTNS. My only reservation being that perhaps a shorter book would be a tonic to all of the doorsteppers being read everywhere else.
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>>8918086
Solaris of course
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>>8918086
>>8918094
Both of those are rejected.
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>>8918094
>>8918097
Well, there could be a book of the month or fortnight, to be mentioned at the beginning of each SFFG thread, as a suggestion.

Standalone volumes would work better and nothing too meme-y. 'The book of the month is I, Robot,' for example.
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>>8918144
Weekly short stories, even.
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>>8918058
no, but re-reading a book is so much more effort
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>>8918155
These would have a better chance of actually getting read, and offer more variety instead of spending weeks on the same thing
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>>8918038
>does anyone else feel bad about re-reading things?

re-reading is patrish as fuck

you can only truly commit a story to memory if you re-read
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>>8918155
Popular short stories, e.g old Hugo and Nebula winners, could be linked entirely from the main post, probably.
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>>8918038
Not so long as it's actually merited.
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>>8914293
>>8914387

I'm sorry, WHAT?
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What's Mythago Wood like?
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>>8918189
It's a meme about the terrible new covers on Bakker's books (>>8912883); the design looks like a dinner plate with a scowling guy on it.
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>>8915360

... wizarding is not a stage, mom
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https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25489134-the-bear-and-the-nightingale

This book looks ultra comfy. Seems to be getting decent reviews too
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>>8917581

>tfw when I want to be a writer but my name is Kennedy

Why live.
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>>8918170
>>8918155
>>8918144
I'm down for a fantasy and weekly scifi short story

Not sure about fantasy, but I always read the Nature Futures stories and while a little weird they're mostly good
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How the fuck is Brian McClellan rated so highly?

I had to stop the Promise of Blood after the first two chapters becaue the prose was so shockingly bad - was that really just me?
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>>8918327
fellow clan member reporting
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How is Lev Grossman's stuff? The Magicians and the sequels to it.

I just started watching The Magicians on Netflix and then through Google discovered that it's based on a book series.

Is it worth actually reading, or should I just watch the show and forget the books exist?
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>>8916622
desu Robert E. Howard. Ignore any dinoposters, he writes great red-blooded fantasy.
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>>8918436
Books are way superior. TV show has its moments but mostly misses the mark.
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>>8918450
Still worth doing both if I make sure to stay further ahead in the books? Quentin's friend Julia is cute.
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>>8918459
Sure. It's more like the tv show became the thing the books set out to if not outright satirise then at least deconstruct. The distinction is almost outright lost and the YA feel ends up overpowering.

It's still watchable but not really in the same league.
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I know some other anons here have read Tad Williams, so I have a question: Does Memory, Sorrow, Thorn get better?

I'm almost done with the Dragonbone Chair and I just feel like it's too derivative. The plot seems to be "An ancient evil awakens" mixed with basic politicing. Williams' prose is very pretty but it's on the verge of being purple most of the time, the way he describes actions or thoughts seem far too grandiose for what is happening.

The note at the start of the book said to avoid assumptions, so I can only guess Williams is setting the series up for trickery. Is that the case?
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>>8918497
Nope, it's generic as generic gets.
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I've finished Homeland by R.A. Salvatore. Shall I finish this trilogy or should I try something else in the Entry level chart?

I'm willing to learn more about the series.
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>>8918450
I can attest this. Game of Thrones S01 is pure TV excellence (in my opinion), but the book is just infinitely superior. No motion picture medium, TV or cinema, can capture feelings and monologues like a book can.
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>>8918497
It does pay off eventually, but if you're not enjoying it then don't read it. Tad Williams is an author who I feel has only improved over time, with every series he writes. MSaT is one of his earlier works and while it displays his usual penchant for mythos building it is like you said, pretty derivative and feels too much confined by its traditional heroic fantasy narrative. Williams' characteristic style is a very slow build up with most of the plot revelations happening toward the end of the series, and while these endings can be explosive and very satisfying, the build up often gets dragged out with the foreshadowing lost amid dead ends and fluff. But like I said, he gets better with every series and it becomes more and more streamlined.

I'd suggest Shadowmarch as a better introduction to Tad Williams if you want to give him another shot. It's easily my favorite series by him and one I consider genuinely good.

Another trait of his is that he really, really loves fairies and fairy tales, so expect to see those in almost everything he writes.
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>>8918588
Agreed. I realise it's not fantasy but I'd place Wolf Hall in the same quality bracket.
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>>8918588
te prose is pure shit
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>>8916622
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>>8918180
>could be linked entirely from the main post
That's probably the only way to make this work.
I would be down for a weekly short story.
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>>8917845
Farseer because it's finished and Fitz is a brilliant character.

Can't really go wrong with Stormlight though, it's Sanderson's best work.
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>>8918588
Is game of thrones really deserving of being future classic in the same league as lord of the rings, or is it just meme book series due to the show?
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>>8918459
The bulk of Julia's storyline was heavily modified and takes place in the 2nd book.
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>>8918690
I considered it one of the best fantasy series I'd read well before HBO adapted it.
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>>8918690

If he'd maintained the quality of the first three and headed off the bloat. Beyond saving imo.
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>>8918690
>>8918714
>>8918588
I couldn't even finish the Game of Thrones books, they were so awful I almost gave up on GRRM altogether.
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>>8918690
>Is the show good?
S1-S4 are pure excellence; S5 and S6 are utter shit. Some people will tell you that it was S4 when the show jumped the shark, but I disagree.

>Are the books good?
I only read the first out of five released. I already watched the show so I knew what's going to happen and it made the book boring as fuck. The author digresses a lot and sometimes he's just so verbose he'll literally spend 3 lines describing food! (this happens a dozen times throughout the book).

You should also note that George R.R. Martin is infamous for being a slow author. He takes up to 7 years to publish the next volume. Right now there two volumes left and George is 67 years old, so ...

>Is it on par with Lord of the Rings?
NEVER EVER.
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>>8918690
Early books had real merit but he's been in a hole for over 10 years now and I think he's given up the fight.
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>>8917667
>>8917749
That and it's a good catchall term for lettering and symbols that gives a sense of the fantastic.
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>>8917088

Terry Pratchett? Tom Holt? They both lurved a good pun n the title
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>>8918172

This

I always reread after a hiatus of 5-10 years. I'll have forgotten enough of the story that it's like a refresh. It doesn't really work the after the 3rd or 4tg reread, but some books never age.
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>>8917450
>Malazan
Welcome to the fold
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>>8917617
Just know it's 4chan the novel. It has battle autism and weaponized memes.
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>>8918906
Wish he'd given the mmo guild shit a miss at least.

>le epic mount
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>>8917731
Look stevian we are not giving your 10$ your shit is so bad no one even wants to steal it.
Stop the spam shit or I will join that another anon in reporting all your posts.
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>>8918288
Harry Potter books when you were a kid. I grew out of them, you probably did too.
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>>8917814
That only serves to remind me of Raymond Chandler mocking scifi:
>Did you ever read what they call Science Fiction? It's a scream. It is written like this: "I checked out with K19 on Adabaran III, and stepped out through the crummaliote hatch on my 22 Model Sirus Hardtop. I cocked the timejector in secondary and waded through the bright blue manda grass. My breath froze into pink pretzels. I flicked on the heat bars and the Bryllis ran swiftly on five legs using their other two to send out crylon vibrations. The pressure was almost unbearable, but I caught the range on my wrist computer through the transparent cysicites. I pressed the trigger. The thin violet glow was ice-cold against the rust-colored mountains. The Bryllis shrank to half an inch long and I worked fast stepping on them with the poltex. But it wasn't enough. The sudden brightness swung me around and the Fourth Moon had already risen. I had exactly four seconds to hot up the disintegrator and Google had told me it wasn't enough. He was right."

>They pay brisk money for this crap?
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>Siri refusing to explain sexual procreation to Susebron
GRUMBLE GRUMBLE GRUMBLE
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>>8917845
Farseer because Hobb is severely underrated here and you need to make your own mind up. Though it's not her best trilogy.
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>>8918590
I do like slow series, hell New Sun is my favorite book, but the it seems MST is just building up to pretty bland stuff.

I'll finish Dragonbone Chair then check out Shadowmarch sometime, thanks for the mention.
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>>8918992
Oh but she """""explains"""" it well enough eventually.
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>>8919015
You're not wrong. I think MST is something you need to have read first as a kid to have emotional attachment to.
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>>8919015
>MST is just building up to pretty bland stuff
Yeah it's nothing very adventurous or new. It took me a really long time to finish MST and I had to be in the right mood for old fashioned "callow youth saves the realm from the ancient evil" sort of story. I understand not everybody gets cravings for those types of stories but to me they're like comfort food.

Shadowmarch is less "traditional" in that respect, characters have a bit more depth to them and there's less fluff. What I really love about it though is the god tier mythology building he does.
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>>8917450
Don't get discouraged by its density, you really have to dig into the series to make sense of everything. If you want something you can quickly finish off then you'll probably be overwhelmed by Erikson's masterpiece.
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I read a short story a very long time ago. It was in a sci go magazine I think.

About a prince or knight who wanders away from home to an evil area. Crosses a river or something.

He finds a castle, goes inside to plunder it. Greeted by a ghost who speaks strangely and warns him of danger.

He finds the treasure glowing, but dies due to an illness.

Kicker is he was in far far future and found a nuclear plant. Ghost was a warning hologram.

Anyone know this story?
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>>8919160
Nope, but it sounds fucking hack
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>>8917327
I just finished it and it's now my favorite book ever, as well as my first Wolfe novel. You can start with it but keep in mind that the first 75% of Shadow of the Torturer is fairly painful. In that section my plan was to power through it and not read the others but by the end of SOTT I was more intrigued then I can ever remember being in a series, and it just got better from there.
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>>8917878
I only read the first and really liked it anyway. I have no desire to read the rest and felt the ending was satisfying enough.
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>>8918086
Please do BOTNS
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>>8912883
Hello, I'm new to reading as a hobby. Should I read this?
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>>8919790
no.
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>>8919790
yes
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>>8918026
>There are so many terms used that I am completely unaware of to describe the surroundings. Makes me constantly feel like a dumbass.
that fucking feel, i thought i was the only one
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>>8912858
Foundation Trilogy were the first SciFi books I ever bought. Beautifully presented covers (which include OPs pic) made me buy the trilogy.

Anyways, dare to recommend me some good SciFi that isn't Dune?
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>>8918684
>Can't really go wrong with Stormlight though, it's Sanderson's best work.

I am really conflicted about Stormlight Archives. It's got all my least favorite things about Sanderson's early writing in Elantris that I felt he had been steadily improving on, come back and turned up to 11. The obnoxious and distractingly fantastic character names, lots of tepid dialog, and throwing tons of out of context Proper Nouns at the reader with explanations pending eventually.

And it introduced some new bad habits I don't like. The way his characters repeatedly brood over whatever their main conflict is reminds me of Weiss and Hickman's Darksword series, where they could not go three chapters without reminding us that Saryon *really* wants to tell Joram his true heritage but he's sworn not to, as though he had forgotten that. And the way he's named the creatures of the world, between Noun-Animal designations like Skyeels and Axehound, and the weird Fraggle Rock names like Cremlings, just irked me. Between the bestiary and the presence of all the not-fairies the series had this weird ass tone of whimsy that just contrasted with the slavery, massacres, and assassinations in the story. If it was just the sum of its parts, I'd consider Stormlight Archives his worst series.

But I'm inclined to agree that it is his best, because it's so much more than the sum of its parts, somehow it all came together to be the most interesting and compelling thing I think he's ever written. While I don't like aspects of it, as a whole I love it and want more.
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>>8919903
Speaker for the Dead.
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>>8916288
Oathbringer. Next book in Danial Abraham's "The Dagger and the Coin" series. Steven Brust's next Vlad Taltos novel.

The Doors of Stone
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>>8920044
>The Dagger and the Coin
Didn't this already end with B5?
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>>8918373
I suppose it is? I mean the prose is nothing to write home about, what keeps getting to me is how abrupt it is. Some fairly major events get summed up in one or two sentences where other authors would probably devote a paragraph or more to them. It's not terse in the same way The Black Company was terse, where an invasion of a town would get one sentence because it's written from a grunt's perspective and the battle went down in the standard fashion, while character development would get more exploration; it's just terse, period, everything is summed up in as few words as possible and then on to the next event. That caught my attention.

Other than that I can't complain about the prose. Wait, no, the repeated descriptions of what a Powder Mage can do ("float a bullet over a mile") are starting to get annoying, kind of recalling the worst over-explaining in Mistborn.

But other than THAT, I don't see the prose as particularly bad, it gets the job done and McClellan keeps the fun detective/military fantasy/heroic quest story moving.

Also fuck Medieval Stasis and Fantasy Gun Control, I like Shooters and Sorcery.
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>Start Branderson with Elantris
>Like the book so far

What am I in for if I want to read more of his work?
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>>8920091
All of Brandon Sanderson's works are roughly the same quality in the cosmere except for Lift's short stories and Mistborn which is a little more YA.
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>>8920045
The fuck you say...oh hell yeah, it's out already! Alright, this is next on the slate after I finish The Blood Mirror. Don't know how I missed the release, thanks for keeping me posted, anon.

>>8920091
All uphill from there, actually. That was his least polished book, and minor quibbles aside he only got better as his career went on.

Caveat: That's assuming you like the switch from "magic is just a word for intradiegetic plot contrivance, it can do whatever the story demands" to "magic is a video-gamey, tabletop RPGesque thing that gives you a palette of predefined, limited effects" that characterized Mistborn and most of his work after that. I do like it, so I'm not complaining. Some people don't, so you may not be a fan of Mistborn or Warbreaker, and might want to just skip to Stormlight Archives where Soulcasters are just wizards and can do wizard shit.

Second caveat: If you do read his whole catalog, you may find it grating that all of the magic systems he comes up with, unique as they all, wind up doing a lot of the same things. Mistborn burning pewter and pushing steel, Feruchemists tapping metalminds, BioChromatic Breath users enhancing their clothing, Shardbearers in Shardplate and Surgebinders fueling of Stormlight, a lot of his characters are combat mages who buff their strength, speed, endurance, agility, sometimes healing rates and on occasion gain the ability to fly or almost fly. There's a reason Sanderson's work keeps getting compared to Wu Xia and anime, a lot of his action is reminiscent of Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragonball. Again, I like it. Some readers don't.
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>>8920129
>Don't know how I missed the release
It seems that the fastest way to keep up with releases is to star them on goodreads and the author's new books will show up under https://www.goodreads.com/new_releases
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Make new thread niggers
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NEW THREAD
>>8920156
>>8920156
>>8920156
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>>8918669
Thanks for this. From what i'm gathering, most of the authors who either right in reaction to the "sjw" crowd or just shirk political correctness altogether are sci-fi authors, rather than fantasy.

Could this be because of the perceived "rational", "hard" or "masculine" elements of sci-fi vs the more feminine elements of fantasy?

Maybe i'm reaching here but I find that females are far more likely to enjoy fantasy than they are to enjoy sci fi.
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>>8918898
I'd love to search for malazan memes but i've only read book 1 and am terrified of spoilers
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>>8919708
It wasn't great. I just remember from my childhood and would like to read it again.
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>>8920166
I hope you enjoy. It took close to nine years to write the series. Lazarus is book 2 in the series. Start with book 1. Fusion Heart.

My books have strong female protagonists but it's none of that "in your face grrrls rock!" Pseudo/tumblr feminist bullshit. I just made a strong male character then slapped a vagina on it. Boom. Strong female character. There's a main character who's black but other than the initial description of dark colored skin I didn't feel the need to add anything else. If people label him as a "Strong African amarican literary character it's because he's a strong literary character who happens to be dark skinned. If you start overthinking it or try to make some statement about stuff like that then the rest of the work will suffer. Just sayin.
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>>8920129
>The Blood Mirror
Tell us how you liked it.
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>>8917845
Farseer because it's finished.

Fitz does have that soft, suffering, helpless aspect that female authors love to write and male readers hate to read so if that really bothers you skip both and read Lyonesse instead.
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>>8918690
No. He drops the ball after the first three.

At this point he's completely lost the plot.
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>>8920642
KEK

Also reading about vaginismus in a book was one of the most surreal experiences I had.
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