Why being self-referential means work is post-modern? Those concepts are old as literature itself - Arystophanes, Cervantes, Rabelais, Sterne
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its the glut of the self you mong
read more Lennitz and Foals
>>8694169
people call Cervantes and Sterne postmodernist all the damn time which is all you need to know about what a fucking useless label it is.
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It doesn't but its the one of the only easy ways of showing plebs a sort of common post-modern trope so they cling to it
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because post-modernism in literature is very hard to define, so people try to tack things like being self referential onto it.
many authors regarded as post-modern, such as don delillo, detest the term. they think its pointless.
i would have to agree
I think the problem is that postmodernism, due to it's honestly terrible name, is moreso thought as an era (like Modernism, Victorian, etc) as opposed to a genre. Personally, I think it's far more accurate to think of postmodernism as a genre, with elements of it appearing through all of literary history, eventually culminating in the second half of the 20th century.
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It's simple. Post modern self reference always highlights the fact that you're reading a book. It only serves to point out the literary functions of the book