D'you think it'd be justifiable to start having a /film/

No.
Any film that you can regard as a text shouldn't be a film, because that means it isn't properly utilizing the fact that it's a visual medium.
/tv/ is a shithole but that doesn't mean films should be regularly discussed here.

>>8692511

My university's creative writing major requires students to complete classes in at least two mediums, and screenwriting is included as one of them.

A /lit/ thread about films should really be limited to discussion of screenwriting only, not directing or cinematography or any other aspect of filmmaking.

>>8692511
Where should they be discussed then? The point is to contain them to a general so that only one thread at a time contains references to film. It'd also get rid of all other film threads that regularly get posted here into the general, cutting down on shitposting.

>Any film that you can regard as a text shouldn't be a film.
Literally any film can be regarded as a text. They produce meaning in a procession of signs unfolding through time, which is basically what a text does. Unless we're gonna stop regarding theatrical works as texts, if they've ever been performed, it's a pointless old hat position to hold.

>>8692511
>Any film that you can regard as a text shouldn't be a film, because that means it isn't properly utilizing the fact that it's a visual medium.

nah that's bollocks. something like, say, The Man Who Wasn't There uses the visual medium of film to great effect, but still has literary value in its themes, pacing, plot, and so on.

i think that flicks generally should stay on /tv/

that said i do think /lit/ could be a forum for discussion of other types of art, such as painting, architecture, and sculpture. there is really nowhere else to go for that on this website, and i think most regular users wouldnt mind because we're all pretenders to high culture. allowing this might even improve the overall quality of the board- hopefully we would get more good art related threads and less shitty tangentially literature related threads.

i wouldnt even be opposed to some discussion of film or anime, but if the caliber of discussion is low that shit should get deleted because it belongs on /tv/ or /a/.

there is no world where im okay with comic or video game related threads on lit though.

>>8692634
Well, my take on this is that there are a hell of a lot of films you can't talk about on /tv/ because it's a board for discussing flicks. /film/ general would necessarily have to be a flick-free zone.

>>8692475
The truefilm subreddit has great discussions sometimes

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>>8692650
They're fine, but not nearly elitist enough to generate a quality atmosphere. Elitism is /lit/'s distinctive feature and the thing that makes it special.

>>8692667
Don't forget the virulent racism, mysoginy, antisemitism and worst of all, the shitposting

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If le nobel music man and films are now literature, I demand we start discussing paintings.
/ic/ and /his/ never meme about the classics

>>8692706
>mysoginy

Somebody didn't start with the Greeks.

>>8692722
is jacques-louis david, dare i say it, our guy?

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It's not going to happen. I wouldn't mind because i personally like film, but that doesn't mean it should be allowed on the board.

I don't know what you're expecting either. /tv/ is a shit board, but so is /lit/ really, so it's not like the discussion is going to be any better in the first place.

>>8692733
I like his Horatii and Napoleon.

>>8692706
>Don't forget the virulent elitism, elitism, elitism and worst of all, the ironic smug elitism over other posters (or as you call it shitposting)

I didn't say it was always a good thing. It makes /lit/ "special" in more ways than one.

But it has a positive effect that's readily apparent if you compare us to a subreddit like r/books or a board like /tv/

>>8692746
Have you been on /tv/? Are you really comparing the level of discourse here to the discourse there? The equivalent would be if /lit/ was a board all about Tom Clancy and Dan Brown books, with occasional threads about game of thrones

>>8692764
Yeah, the names are different, but /lit/ still rarely actually discusses stuff.

It's still one the same level of content.

I mean, /lit/ is better, mostly because it's much less popular, but it's not that much better if you're actually looking for quality discussion.

>>8692791
/lit/ introduced me to many of the writers I love, and works that have well and truly changed me. If nothing else, it provides people with a resource for finding interesting works and encouragement to do so. /tv/ certainly does not do this for film, unless you count The Avengers as a life-changing work of cinema.

>>8692634

paintings and sculptures are supposed to be discussed on /his/, maybe architecture too if it's specifically artistic architecture

comics and the specific video game genre of interactive fiction are literally more relevant to the /lit/ board than any example of film or television

>>8692862
but comics, video games and /his/ all suck

>>8692804
Lit just talks about the canon mainly. They aren't exactly obscure works you would only hear about herw

>>8692871

comics are more than just retarded Marvel/DC bullshit Anon

>>8692953
Yes, which is why, now I'm pretty well-read, /lit/ content is mostly boring with a few interesting threads. But when I first came here when I was fifteen, I was introduced to all this literature that I would never have been pushed towards by anyone else. A resource like that should exist for film, and it can't exist anywhere except 4chan

>>8692706
>Don't forget the virulent racism, mysoginy, antisemitism and worst of all, the shitposting
what board isn't like that on this site?

>>8692475
i would prefer an /elit/ general. To discuss films, theatre, literature, architecture, dance, art and all shit.
An extension of /lit/ with all the >>8692667
/elit/ism.

>>8693004
There are plenty of sites that can give you a good live of films to watch though. You don't really need 4chan to do that.

>>8693053
yeah, can we just get a litcore general for high-art discussion?

>>8693282
I'd be up for this

What should we /call/ it?

>>8693282
yes this. I wanna shill for Duchamp.

>>8693295
e/lit/ism general

>>8692706
Misogyny barely exists and is harmless when it does.

>>8692475
Eyyyy
I'm a refugee from /tv/ too. The memes and shitposting make it impossible to actually discuss any film with any real merit.
Unfortunately we just need a /film/ board with a capeshit general or something. /film/ on /lit/ would be too conflicting. Good thing Hiro is so attentive and helpful, I'm sure he'll respond to community needs.