Time to be honest /lit/, do any of you read YA books and

>>8684820
Why waste my time?

Of course not, I'm a grown-up.

>>8685012
Why do you think it's a waste of time?

>>8684820
>Sorcerer's Stone
>YA
The later HP books definitely are YA, but the first few are just children's books

>>8685018
Because there are better books that you actually get something out of it and improve yourself.

YA lit is just literary junk food

>>8685126
I'm guessing you always eat the healthiest things then and never eat sweets. Books can be read for entertainment.

>>8685126
No, Genre Fiction is junk food. It's not gourmet, but you can get some pleasure out of it.
YA is like those tasteless granola bars or cup ramen that you eat because you're hungry, bored and don't have the time/money to throw on something else but children love for some reason.

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>>8685126
>i read to improve myself
lmao you are not better than the faggots reading YA

>>8685140
If someone told you he watches american guy for entertainment, you'd probably call him an idiot, right?

>>8685157
Yes but entertainment is subjective. Some people think smoking weed all day is entertaining.

>>8685126
'improving' yourself is just a sign of low-self acceptance. There's nothing great about you constantly only seeking to get better as a person if you aren't enjoying life. Often, high literature takes much more energy mentally to comprehend and enjoy while YA gives your mind space to ruminate over whats going on and rest your mind.

YA is comfort, YA is relaxation, YA lets people grow and recover.
Literature is taxing, often dated, boring, and you get called names if you dare to dislike it.

Sure, literature makes you a better writer and gives you something to think about, but if you're already that intelligent you probably already have enough of your own ideas in your head.
Literature doesn't allow you the same freedoms YA does.
If you disagree with me, you're just proving my point, that YA allows everyone in and lets everyone enjoy themselves while literature grumbles and bumbles in the corners of erudite obscurity.

After a hard day's work, do you want to read Finnegan's Wake or DFW?

I collect Audiobooks,since that's the way I can enjoy literature while at work,and some YA has made it into my collection. Besides Terry Pratchett and his Tiffany Aching series,I have collected the Artemis Fowl books,about an adolescent Criminal Mastermind dealing with a high tech Faerie Realm. Fun,intelligent and amusingly delivered. Another eries I liked as well was His Dark Materials . I I , .

>>8685172
I'm a newfag, is this some copy pasta?

>>8685172
>YA gives your mind space to ruminate over whats going on and rest your mind.

I have video games for that.

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>>8685184
>plays with toys
>shits on people for reading YA

>>8685192
>YA is just a toy that you need to spend extra effort on with no discernible benefit

yeah, no thanks.

>>8685157
>american guy

>>8685225
>video games are benefiting you

Let me guess, you think it helps your """reflexes""""

>>8685251
>YA novels are benefiting you
Let me guess, you think it helps your """imagination"""

>>8685292
>literature is benefiting you
Let me guess, you think it enriches you """soul"""

>>8685292
>YA novels are benefiting you

I never claimed that at all. I said they're entertainment. You're the one saying video toys have some sort of benefit.

>>8684820
I unironically enjoyed The Hunger Games. Purge me, /lit/.

John Green is shit though and I don't like Harry Potter.

>>8685310
>enjoyed
We all have our shame, anon. If you knew my secrets...well...let's just say it's not worth mentioning.
...heh.

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>>8684820
What exactly is the "Young Adult" genre? I don't think I've read anything that fits that but I could be wrong.
It's fiction right? So is it like young adult life? Books with slightly more mature themes than basic children novels? I've mostly seen books with retarded amounts of sex being called YA but i just figured those to be porn books.
pls explain to anon

>>8685308
>You're the one saying video toys have some sort of benefit.
he didn't though?
The only time I read for entertainment is when I'm burnt out reading non-fiction. Even then I try to pick up something that has symbolism for you to think about.
Unlike this girl I know who only reads Ellen Hopkins.

>>8685308
YA novels are EXTRA effort compared to videogames without any EXTRA benefit compared to videogames. If YA takes more effort and is not more beneficial (even if it has the same benefit [none]) then it's not worth doing unless you want to exert yourself a little (at which point, just read a real book)

>>8685140
YA just stops to entertain after your understanding of the world and people gets complex enough. That's when you start reading "serious" literature for entertainment.

>>8685251
never said that

>>8685328
>een books with retarded amounts of sex being called YA

wut

>>8685328
50% of YA readers are actually adults. It's a polite term for the audience that they focused on at the beginning, 13-25, but eventually became anyone who's still in that mindset like >>8685342
says eventually if you continue to grow mentally and read more you might turn into a snobby fucker like him.

>>8685018
If I didn't know about about the big literature before YA, I'd probably not think it was a waste of time. But since I know about them, I want to spend my time reading great literature contents of which then can entertain and occupy my mind for the rest of my days, instead of wasting time on reading YA that will filter out of my head in a couple of days.

Genre fiction is called such because writers are sketching out a universe to a specific audience that already exists for that material. They're spoon feeding you exactly what you want.

I guess it's okay as a guilty pleasure but spending too much time in an unchallenging environment will provide diminishing returns.

>>8685332
>he didn't though?

One that isn't a question, that's a statement. Two he implied it, read this

>YA is just a toy that you need to spend extra effort on with no discernible benefit

>>8685192
>>8685225


>>8685405
If you think reading is effort or exhausting then you need to re-evaluate your life.

>>8685448
>he implied it

no i didn't?

As I've always thought people who shit at others for reading YA novels or sci-fi are just pseuds who have picked up a couple of meme classics to make themselves feel intelligent and cultured but cannot fathom that people who actually like to read can read some light genre fiction between "serious" novels. I'm sure you fucks don't have any problems with people watching tv or Hollywood movies because for you reading is hard work you do to "improve yourself" or something.

>>8685448
That doesn't seem right?

>>8684820
No and no. Even when I was teen I hated any novel or book about being a teenager or anything YA. The writing was always sub par and subject matter was cringy.

I also automatically discard the opinions of anyone who unironically reads YA or whatever the fuck "New Adult" is.

It's all pulp

>>8685487
desu pulp is better than YA
Really even doctor suece is 100% better than any YA novel

>>8684820

I didn't even read children's books as a child why would I read them as an adult?

>>8685468
genre fiction != YA.

The only problem with genre fiction really is the league of idiots who read exclusively that, but there's certainly nothing wrong with picking up, say, a Terry Pratchett novel now and then.

But absolutely no reason to read YA after a certain point in your literary maturity.

>>8685357
shit like Ellen Hopkins is called YA and it's just teens being raped doing drugs and being sad
>>8685358
But what is the genre though? Characters who are 15-20s and their life? Characters that age in generic fantasy? I just don't get it. I won't lie, I enjoy some sci-fi in between non-fiction. But none of it is every called YA, just sci-fi/fantasy. The most recent being Magician: Apprentice. The rest of the time I read biographies of people I think are cool, military/history and philosophy I guess.
Guess it's just not for me.

>>8685529
>shit like Ellen Hopkins is called YA and it's just teens being raped doing drugs and being sad

intradasting.......

>>8685529
YA is just the term for books written to a younger audience. You can't just go and read Pynchon out of the gate

>>8684820
i appreciate childrens lit and real lit. anything ostensibly "targeted" at a specific group anywhere in the 15+ age range is generally terrible

ya, pg/pg-13, seinen- it's all trash

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>>8685543
I went The Hobbit -> LotR and on from there to non-fiction
Is the hobbit considered YA? Not trying to be a dick real question

>>8685525
Ah, whatever, I know a bunch of people read Pratchett and Banks between Dostoevsky and Marquez and I don't look down on them because of it. I sure as shit won't presume that a person is a pleb just because they've read Hunger Games or something.

>>8685560
i consider the hobbit to be a childrens book
lotr is genre trash but its acceptable as a segue into real lit

>>8685565
But LotR isn't YA right?
What the fuck is this genre it must be shit if nothing even a quarter decent is even in it

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I have a confession to make: I really, really, really like The Fault in Our Stars.
I hadn't even heard of it before, but after seeing all the memes about John Green I was really curious.
So I decided to read it, and well I liked it. I really liked it.

>>8685573
YA is books written by childlike adults for childlike adults, while everyone involved pretends theyre written by adults for teens

typically consists of plotfaggotry, black and white morality, and lacks subtlety

>>8685585
OK
thanks anon

I read YA as a teenager and I have nothing against the genre. It is where I started and I doubt I ever would have graduated to serious literature if I hadn't read those books. I do hate it when anyone over the age of 20 reads YA and acts like they are smart for reading. If you like YA but at least admit that its trash, that's fine. Who am I to tell you what you should find entertaining? But I can't stand people who seem to think they are intellectual because they read, regardless of the actual quality of what they are reading.

Its kinda like people who enjoy superhero flicks. They're fun and there's nothing wrong with enjoying them, but don't act like some kind of film buff because you see every piece of mass-produced schlock that comes your way. I can't tell you how many "film fans" I've met who turned out to be vacuous consumers with no actual taste. About as many as all the "avid readers" I've met whose favorite book is Harry Potter.