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>believed some humans were born superior to others and was okay with eugenics
>believed some works of art were too degenerate and should be banned
>young warriors should live in a communistic clan apart from the rest of society
>believed men should be ruled by a superior philosopher king (Fuhrer)

Was Plato, dare I say it, a proto-Nazi?
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>>8646603
I think you mean proto-Trumpian. Prepare your molotov cocktails and/or peanut butter.
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>>8646603
Well, you know what they say, Plato is right about everything. So it's only natural he were a nazi.
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>>8646603
>thinking Nazism is the only ideology to hold these beliefs and wasn't hobbled together from a million different things including the works of Plato

Silly OP
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>>8646603
He was a fucking white male
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wtf i love national socialism now
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Plato was simply a collectivist.
So to answer your question, yes.

Everything about The Republic reeks of collectivism dribble.
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>>8646631
He was also likely fucking white males.
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>>8646603
>thinking the republic is actually about politics
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>>8646603
>young warriors should live in a communistic clan apart from society

Oh man, yes. Where can I sign up my boy?
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>>8646710
>anime image
>retarded post

rmyt (really makes you think)
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The political philosophy of Plato begins with the confrontation between Socrates and the Athenian authorities, that is, between the philosopher on the one hand and the city-state on the other. This is why the aim of Plato's entire utopia is to facilitate the philosopher's way of life, what Aristotle called the bios theoretikos.
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>>8646720
how's reading the wikipedia article of the republic going for you?
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>>8646734
You misrepresented OP's post, you've misread The Republic and now you're projecting. That's three strikes, weaboo.
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>>8646747
reread the first few books will you. the ideal city is just an extended image used to explain the nature of justice to glaucon and adeimantus after thrasymachus insists that the unjust life is more profitable than the just one in book one. at the end of book one, you see socrates use the image of an unjust city that enslaves others to show that if it was truly unjust then it could not have functioned at the most basic level of interpersonal relationships between citizens thus not being able to profit off injustice. the image then gets extended throughout the dialogue. the ancients also called the book "on justice" for a very good reason. the laws is the only explicitly political text in plato's corpus. just because the phaedrus has images of chariots does not mean its about chariots, right?

also, how can i misrepresent OP's post when its clearly a shitpost?
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I'm yet to hear a convincing argument against eugenic practices.
I don't mean GAS ALL KIKES /pol/ shit, I mean actually helpful applications, like prohibiting junkies, alcoholics, and mentally retarded from having children, for starters
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>>8646778
In his attempt to explain what justice is and why it is desirable, Plato touches on several different topics, one of them being politics.

You've misrepresented OP because he never claimed The Republic is a book about politics, he merely pointed out some convergence points between Plato's philosophy and totalitarian nat-soc ideology
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>>8646689
>dribble
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>>8646839
dont be daft. op clearly drew parallels between plato and hitler as a way to sway people away from plato by claiming he was a nazi and as a result claiming that the text where he explicitly said these statements as being political since nothing else was said about it
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>>8646812
It's invasive, and gives the state even more power, which is stupid and dangerous.
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>>8646812
At the very least you could convey tax benefits or gifts on smart or successful people who have children.
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>>8646603
>philosopher king (Fuhrer)

This is where you lost me.
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>>8646910
As it stands the state already redistribute money from smart and competent people to subsidize the rampant reproduction of idiots and losers. Why not the reverse?
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>>8646910
>MAN FUCK DA STATE XD
It's about as invasive as battling crime and forbidding certain drugs. Giving high risk birth should be viewed as child abuse
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>>8646922
Because the moment you give them power you will not be able to take it back, that is how the state works. Suddenly you have people like Clinton and Trump deciding who gets to have children and how many, with advisement from their lobbyist friends. If you think the education system is designed to produce docile workers for the benefit of corporations, imagine what the government will make of eugenics.
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>>8646910
>>8646937
You've produced an argument against government control, not eugenics. Try again.
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>>8646942

Eugenics is a form of government control you fucking retard.

Kill yourself. It's obvious in your ideal society you would be unable to have children anyways, better to finish the deed now and put your genes out of their misery.
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>>8646603
> The Republic (Of Trolls)

>The Republic is Plato’s lulziest and most dramatic copypasta depicting the classical ideal of win.

>The lulz started when Socrates went to the city to ask people a bunch of stupid questions about justice and virtue. He was stopped by some sophists who were aware of what a successful troll Socrates was and demanded to witness his science. When Socrates asked them what justice is, they said justice is whatever the toughest guy in the room says it is because he could just buttsex you until you agree with him. Using questionable logic, Socrates explained that just because you are strong doesn't mean you aren't also a retard. After pwning these sophists with his powers of unwarranted self-importance, Glaucon showed up. Glaucon said virtue is only a glorified way of attention whoring so people will liek you, and the only reason there are laws you should follow was to shut up some butthurt pussies who bawwwed about Team Rocket stealing their pokemans all the time. Glaucon argued that if one could get away with constant acts of injustice without repercussion, it would make more sense to be unjust because one could profit much more from injustice than from justice. Socrates, ever the moralfag, disagreed and said you should be virtuous just cause. However, being obviously intellectually checkmated, he did what any good philosopher would do in the situation. He completely changed the subject and started talking about politics.

>To Socrates, the ideal state is like the ideal man. Since philosophers like Socrates are the best kind of people in society, he naturally appoints himself mod of his fictional country. His first action as mod is to permaban all writers of Greek mythology fanfiction from the city because he’s tired of putting up with all of Zeus’s stupid drama. Reading epic and tragic stories teaches people the wrong values because all Greek heroes and gods are whiny, paedo nutjobs. The ideal state must therefore be completely free of their emo faggotry.
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>>8647094
>With all the old myths gone and all the old books burned, people need a new myth to give meaning to their otherwise pointless and miserable lives and to maintain the order of the state, so the philosophers tell them a "Noble Lie." They are told different people are born with different kinds of metals in their blood and the more precious the metal, the higher the status of the individual. Philosopher kings are born with gold in their blood, the warriors are born with silver, and everyone else is born with iron or bronze.

>Finally Socrates abolishes all private property in the city so your bike and everybody else’s bike is the same bike so they don’t even have to steal it. The institution of the family is abolished, so the state arranges phony marriages and then raises your kids for you to breed a superior next generation of philosophers.

>Throughout the dialogue, Plato had everybody agree with Socrates on the main points the whole way through creating the illusion he is right. When he is finished describing The Republic, everybody agreed justice is exactly how he described it and the only question left is whether they can do it IRL.

Now, say one thing. Just ONE similar thing to this Ayn Rand did.
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>>8647094
>Glaucon said virtue is only a glorified way of attention whoring so people will liek you
It's Thrasymachus that makes this argument in Book I, isn't it? I think Glaucon and Adimantus only reestate and expand upon what he said
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