What else should be on my fascist reading list? (Please note,

You forgot Mein Kampf.

>>8643847
I read that already and wouldn't recommend it. Horrible prose

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Maybe, René Guénon?

>>8643845
>Plato: Republic

r u riterred or what lol..

Those writers are not fascist. Junger and Evola criticised fascism from the right.

What you need to add is Mein Kampfy chair and works by Alfred Rosenburg.

>>8644068
>Kampfy chair
>RosenBURG

do the world a favor and kill yourself

>>8644058
just leave this thread if you don't get the connection

>fascist reading list
>has no fascist authors
>includes traditionalists and good ole pluto instead
>OP becomes triggered by the only actual recommendations given
>this has got be elaborate bait

>>8644103
stop whining you sissy

Tailless by Erin Quinn
How to Suck Cock for Dummies by Eli Weinberg
Soccer Same and the Big Meanie Coach

>>8643865

lol pretentious faggot

>>8643845
>not propagating hate
Fascism was never about hate but intense love for one's own people and nation.

>>8643845
>fascist reading list
>apart from plato, authors are all traditionalists who were critical of fascism
JUST
add Diary of a Man in Despair to complete the circle

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>>8643845

Anon with interest in fascism here


Nazism is edgy shit. Italian and British fascism actually had some intellectual and philosophical base and wasn't focused mostly on antisemitism. In fact, a popular view is that one of the reasons Mosley never came to power was that he focused too much on intellectual concerns that populism, and Mussolini deeply regretted allying with Germany towards the end of the war.

Recommended reading list:

Gregor: Mussolini's Intellectuals
Mosley: The Greater Britain, 100 questions about fascism, Right or Wrong( his magnum opus imo). If you want more of Mosley read 'My Life' by him and 'oswald mosley' by Robert Skidelsky, a good friend of Max mosley, Oswald's son.
Mussolini: All of his autobiographies are good reading (he had 3).
If you can read Italian then I reccomend Giovanni Gentile, Ugo Spirito, Corradini etc.
Georges Sorel (not a fascist but could be described as a proto fascist) - Reflections on violence
Plato is of course recommended as well.

Once you have read all these, move onto some Syndicalist works (later syndicalism had a lot in common with fascism.

Mussolini has some good essays and articles on fascism as well.

Once you have read all of these, I recommend reading the speeches of Oliver Cromwell. He clearly wasn't a fascist because the ideology did not exist until the 1900s, but he is a kind of proto fascist to a certain extent (at least according to Mosley)

Evola wasn't a fascist but his philosophy certainly had some links to fascism, but this is overstated a lot of the time. You can skip him.

A good tip is to avoid all German works on the subject. Post-war and pre-war German academics misinterpreted Italian fascism. Also try to avoid all works between 1946-2000. The emotion from the war was still raw and clouded the study into the ideology and philosophy of fascism (gregor goes into a lot of detail about this)

By the way, Mein Kampf is not necessary to read. German Nazism was not very similar to Italian/British fascism and the book is a bore to read (aside from some interesting insight into Pan-Germanism in the early 1900s).

In terms of Spanish fascism, Franco was not a fascist. Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera was but he didn't write any books (I believe). Here is a good anthology of the small bits he wrote
http://fundacionjoseantonio.es/doc/Antologia_en_ingles.pdf

In my opinion mosley's works are the best on fascism, but reading the italian works as translations may have affected that.

Happy reading!

>>8644058
>>8644103
what about the Republic isn't fascist?

>>8644103
>>OP becomes triggered by the only actual recommendations given
he said he read it crimeny

Nietzsche
Bergson
Sorel
Maurras
Elite theory (Pareto, Mosca, Michels)
Schmitt
Le Bon
Marinetti
Gentile
Corradini
D'Annunzio

>>8643845
>Plato: Republic
Not fascist
>Julius Evola
Idiotic occult mysticism
>Ernst Jünger: Storm of Steel
Openly anti fascist
>Yukio Mishima: Snow in Spring, etc.
Maybe okay.

>>8645443
quality post, thank you! I'm currently learning Italian, so I have something to look forward to.

>>8645490
thank you

Lucien Rebatet - les décombres (the ruins)
drieu la rochelle

>>8644846
> intense love for one's own people and nation
> translates to
> hatred for anyone outside the border
> hatred for anyone inside the border who is suspect

monkeys gonna monk.

also: Homage to Catalonia, by George Orwell

>>8644074
Contrary to popular belief, Jewish folk didn't invent the surname.

>>8645731
it's just that he author he was trying to reference is named Alfred Rosenberg, not Rosenburg.
Also: I don't give a flying fuck if he is Jewish or not

>>8643845
Junger was not a fascist in any way. Read eumswil and on the marble cliffs

>>8645565
Nationalism=/=fascism

>>8645715
That does not automatically follow at all, only if outsiders display aggression.
>>8645443
I think Otto Strasser's and Spengler's writings on the subject are worth taking up.

>>8643845
Spengler is great. I'm an anarchist communist but still find his work to be very insightful and thought provoking. I think anyone interested in the development of civilization, the current trajectory of the west, and nationalism should read Oswald Spengler.

>>8645715
While this can easily happen, it's not automatically true. However, it's much more likely to occur if other societies are built around other more universalist political systems or ideologies, like communism or liberalism.

>>8645870
Yeah, why are you pointing that out?

>>8645756
>I don't give a flying fuck if he is Jewish or not
Every time I'm in a reactionary /lit/ thread and I hear something like this, it's very refreshing. Antisemitic conspiracy theories are total nonsense and only serve to drag nationalism down. I disagree with what you might term Semitic values and there are aspects of Jewish culture I strongly dislike (don't cut your dicks, kids) but there are also aspects of Jewish culture I respect and there are Jewish thinkers and artists whom I admire. When it comes to my personal interactions with them, I have yet to have a negative one. It's too bad there aren't more pan-Germanicists that are ok with Jews. I just want to bring Anglos and Teutons together. I have no interest in absurd conspiracy theories that claim Jews are plotting to dominate the world or kill off Europeans.

>>8646021
They don't plot to destroy Europe, but they have a massive amount of power over various institutions.
The Jews by Hilaire Belloc was enlightening.

>>8646089
Yes, of course there are more Jews in key positions than, say, Nigerians. But there is no Jewish conspiracy or plot for world domination.

>>8643845

Imperium - Francis Parker Yockey

>>8646021
The Jewish bourgeois have dominance in the media, finance and banking. They also held high positions in the Russian revolution and German revolution post-WWI.

>>8646092
They, among other interest groups, are pushing for globalisation, for international economic dominance.

>>8646126
They also held high positions in the German Empire's government post-WWI, which was revolted against. (for example: Walther Rathenau - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walther_Rathenau)

The problem with the interest groups you mention is the interest groups themselves, not the amount of Jews that works for them.

We could make a similar case for people born in America ruining the world. Or men, or Christians, or right-handed people. Being a Jew doesn't mean jack shit.

>>8646144
>The problem with the interest groups you mention is the interest groups themselves, not the amount of Jews that works for them.

Jews do not work for interest groups, they run them. And obviously I'm talking about a small percentage of people here, but that doesn't make them any less dangerous.

>>8646237
so you're saying "THE JEWS" run the media, finance and banking, as well as ran the Russian revolution and the German revolutions. I'll let you do the bulk of the fact-checking yourself, but I hope you realize, that this theory falls on its arse with the first non-jew you find in a leading position.

Take John Cryan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cryan) as an example. He is the current CEO of the Deutsche Bank. He is not a Jew.

Or Jim Gianopulos, CEO of Fox Filmed Entertainment (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Gianopulos) not a jew.

>>8646144
DIfferent anon here. I think it is clear that Jews form a huge proportion of the financial elite and do exercise too much control over the west. However, treating normal jews badly because of this is indefensible and one of the worst aspects of hitler's germany. Mosley was right on antisemitism

>>8646126
the jews seem like a very strong people.

The strongest, maybe? Are there more successful ones?

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I've not read much on the subject, and I'm grateful for the recommendations here >>8645443 (and I shall be sure to read them when I have the spending money), but I believe Fascism, from what I understand of it, is a sort of reactionary thing. A response to a society that is degenerating into an apathetic, powerless mob concerned more with selfish things(like convenience and entertainment)than with the welfare of the community.

So we usually end up blaming someone or some group for this problem, because we need a tangible thing to work against(since mankind is obsessed with the narrative of good and evil). For example, Nazism. They saw their society(Germany) falling apart, and extrapolated the cause of it from their observations of the world around them. Sadly, somewhere in their thought process the Jews where targeted(Perhaps because Jewish people fared better than the average German during the depression?).

What I'm trying to say is that Fascism and Nationalism is not inherently a bigoted idea, and leaves room for cooperation with other nations and races, and dare I say, intermingling with other nations and races(so long as the national identity is based upon some set of laws and ideals, and less so on ethnicity)

Then again, I could be totally wrong.

Thoughts?

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>>8643845

>>8646287
>Thoughts?
Italian fascism came to power without blaming one specific group for Italy's weak position. They realized that in order for Italy to industrialise they needed a strong leader. ltalian fascism wasn't even racist until Hitler persuaded Mussolini to implement racialist policies.
Also, British fascism didn't blame one specific group and wasn't racist.
Neither were really reactionary either. Fascism was strongly inspired by the futurist movement and didn't want to revert to the old nation state but create a new one entirely.

>>8646304
Fascinating.

Nazism really fucked over Fascism and Nationalism more than I thought. It's really not that bad of an ideology.

But I've always had trouble with defining Fascism(other than "le Nazis murdering people for shits and giggles" meme). It is essentially having a strong economy and bureaucracy that attempts to ensure that the nation is not controlled by outsiders, correct?

>>8646339
>It is essentially having a strong economy and bureaucracy that attempts to ensure that the nation is not controlled by outsiders, correct?

Eh there's a bit more to that. Personally I define fascism as:

1)Raising the state to a spiritual level
2)Reorganising the economy into the corporatist system (basically 'trade-unionism to 100 percent' as mosley described it, but Germany never did this)
3)Having a totalitarian state
4)Trying to make your country completely self-sufficient (autarky etc, neither Germany nor Italy lasted long enough for this to be completed)
5)Devoting everything to expanding the economy
6)Very nationalistic

It is hard to define concisely. Mosley was probably the best at explaining what fascism was

>>8646349
>Having a totalitarian state
>Raising the state to a spiritual level

Wouldnt this be danger-close to making the whole system fall apart and turn into an outright dictatorship?

I'd assume there'd be some type of system in place to prevent the current leader from just up and doing whatever he wants, but it just seems dangerous to the nation because it assumes the current leader has nothing but benevolent intentions regarding the nation.

Also, I shall look into Mosley first.

This is really informative.

>>8646295
Honestly the Trump movement is the most pathetic fucking joke of the decade, if not more.
Now that god is dead, we're all looking for something to believe in to combat the nihilism that's creeping up on us from all sides, but damn, for a "strong guy" to believe in he's actually so fucking weak.
Fucking Hitler ruined it for us all, got all triggered a century too early and blame the wrong guys and now we have fucking Trump.

I don't think Fascism ever existed as a cogent ideology with genuine adherents and propagators. It's a bit like "cultural Marxism," in that it was brought into existence by the people who opposed it. Who the fuck is going to express their political preference in print for aestheticised militaristic authoritarianism?

>>8646515
>Who the fuck is going to express their political preference in print for aestheticised militaristic authoritarianism?
People who watched Starsahip Troopers too much?

thanks for this

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>>8646365
Passing through from /gsg/ here.
Mosley is an interesting figure in that he could just have easily been a Conservative Prime Minister, a Socialist Prime Minister, or a Liberal Prime Minister and no one would have questioned it. He seamlessly crossed the floor and combined the ideologies.

>>8644058
>This level of pleb
Get the fuck off my board.

>>8643845
Not necessarily fascist literature, but if you're interested in literature that influenced the worldview of Hitler and other high-ranking officials within Nazi Germany then I've got you covered familia.

>On the Jews and Their Lies by Martin Luther
>An Essay on the Inequality of the Human Races by Arthur de Gobineau
>The Passing of the Great Race by Madison Grant (Hitler allegedly claimed this book was "his bible")

>>8646365
>I'd assume there'd be some type of system in place to prevent the current leader from just up and doing whatever he wants

The Fascist ruling council would have been able to remove Mussolini at any time (which they eventually did). IN Britain, Mosley proposed that there would be elections for the leader of fascism (within the Houses of Parliament) every 5 or 10 years (can't remember which)