Is it necessary to experience significant suffering to be

>>8510469
Being a great artist is inherently great suffering so yes

>>8510469

Not necessarily suffering, just significant boredom. You have to be bored by everyone and everything humans have made. That boredom can make you suffer if you're not balanced as a person.

No. You just have to work extremely hard. Work ethic is everything.

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being a great artist is suffering

>>8510490
Theres no such thing as a great artist with a good work ethic

>>8510490
work = suffering

>>8510469
His expression looks like that one pic of Virginia Woolf in that screenshot. Also they both killed themselves.

>>8510517
I wonder if making that exact face somehow gives you the conviction to suicide yourself, like some sort of code word

I'll try doing it in the mirror

>>8510499
You may think you're baiting me, but you're only baiting yourself.

>>8510556
He's right though. The best artists are all self-indulgent slobs.

for an artist that deals with suffering, sure. for art in general? no, don't be fucking stupid

>>8510575
>>8510556
Someone like Michelangelo surely must have worked painstakingly hard to perfect his craft. You don't become that good at something by being lazy. Self indulgent, perhaps, but not lazy.

>>8510591
Michelangelo was a craftsman, not an artist.

>>8510591
Exactly. The world doesn't shift into place around you to give you the things you want. You have to nurture your craft. Daily.

>>8510469
WHY IS EVERY THREAD HERE ABOUT FUCKING DAVID FOSTER WALLACE WHAT THE HELL KIND OF ALTERNATE DIMENSION DID I WANDER INTO

>>8510596
Art began in crafts when people discovered their ability to transmit ideas. Any artist is also a craftsman. To call Michelangelo just a craftsman is silly. He wasn't making fucking saddles was he?

>>8510625
Though I have to say I wasn't saying lazy people can't be great artists, that would be moronic.

>>8510625
eh

He might as well have been assembling IKEA furniture

>>8510604
He's a funny meme man who did the goofy faces in an interview, and I think maybe he wrote books too

When will /lit/ have its own equivalent to Baneposting?

>>8510630
And any great artist concerned with suffering may as well have been having a crywank. It's the craftsmanship that shines through in the end. I do understand that this is, in our time, is challenged and I can sympathise with that school of thought to some degree.

>>8510469
No, but it helps.

>>8510469
No, you can also write from mental disorder

>>8510499
Get a clue, bozo.