Who /self-publish/ here? Every day I force myself to write a

It's going to be my first time self-publishing, but I have a short 46k word SFF novel I'm publishing soon. It's a sort of 'prologue' that introduces the narrator of my planned series. Although I'm aiming towards writing all the books in this series as semi-independent sequels that can all be read on their own.

This is not so much a monetary thing as it is a building of my discipline, as these books (hopefully) won't feel like your average pulpy SFF books. Along the way I will hopefully learn the craft better.


Also OP, what publishing sites are you using? I'm using Createspace at the moment.

>>8453732
I've got 21 k words so far on a novel, what do I do once I finish it? Looking for 35k words, should be finished in about a month

>Every day I force myself to write a novella between 5 - 15 thousand words which I then self-publish on Amazon

>every day

Jesus are you turbo NEET? I'm calling shenanigans.

>>8453757
desu 35 a week for writing 15 thousand words a day doesn't sound that bad. He makes roughly 5 bucks for every day of the week and it's going up. If he brings that up to around 100$ or 200$ a week he'll basically have a part time job with none of the bullshit.

>>8453756
35 k words isn't a novel. A novel is 50 k minimum.

>>8453732
Are they actually printed books or e-books

>>8453732
links or it didn't happen

>>8453800
Novella, sorry. You get what I mean

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>>8453812
Not posting links yet, but here's what my gmail inbox looks like pretty much every time I sign in.

>>8453803
All e-books

>>8453757
Nope work an office job, I just keep a small box open for writing and type away like a madman all morning.

>>8453771
I think anon's pointing out that 15,000 words is a whole lot to be writing in one day. As for 'part-time', I guess it's possible with zero quality control...

>>8453883
OP here. My stuff is spell-checked and the grammar is all there, but I pretty much just write a mixture of cliche and whatever my subconcious tells me to write.

>>8453881
>15,000 words written in a morning while pretending to be working
That's even more intriguing. You're not by any chance publishing Wikipedia articles are you?

>>8453895
Why would I be doing that? There's no monetary reward involved as far as I'm aware.

>>8453881
oh thats p good. think i could manage to fit it in my schedule similarly

might give it a try

>>8453905
>There's no monetary reward involved
I doubt you're right about that, but I think anon's meaning was that you copied wikipedia articles

>>8453905
It's the only way I can make sense of you being able to get that many words down. Although I guess if you're just stream-of-consciousing that would work too.

>>8453936
Oh ok, well no I haven't so far but I think Michel Houellebecq admitted to copying a lot of stuff from wikipedia into his work so I might start doing that also. Thanks for the suggestion.

>>8453949
I possess a great deal of mental stamina. Just this morning I wrote an alternative version of Stephen King's "The Body" from the perspective of Corey Feldman and his experience filming the movie Stand By Me (which is based on King's novella). I'll create a cover image tonight, edit it a little and publish by the time I go to bed.

>>8453732

how do you advertise?

>>8454089
I don't. At first I was part of a writing collective on eight-chan where we'd all self-publish books (mainly erotica) and then spam positive reviews. But since then readers have managed to find me somehow. I suppose I write so much that it's pretty hard not to find some kind of audience.

how much do you sell your pieces for?

>>8454111
Depends. Most are around $2.50

>>8454118
If you're going as high as 2.50 why not go all the way to 2.99 so you can get the 70% royalty?

>>8454126
I do a lot of the time, I'm still testing out the best prices to attain maximum readership.

Is self publishing difficult? Do you have to use your real name? I never want to be connected with my work, but wouldn't mind making a little extra scratch here and there.

I think it's great that your earning money publishing your work, but I don't know if I would be happy knowing I published something that I knew was simply not good (your admission that it's full of cliches tells me you know this). I'd like to get paid for writing something that did not take me much time, but I would probably hate myself for it.

>>8454170
My bad. You're

>>8453732
surely the quality of those works can't be worth the time, why not just work on a more solid piece that can gain more notoriety

>>8453732
>Waste a ton of time to make the minimum wage of some third world country
Just think by now you could have been published traditionally and made several thousand dollars and more people would have read your work. Self publishing is stupid as shit if you're a new writer.

>>8454151
OP here. No it's easy as hell, only producing the book cover can be tricky. I just completed and uploaded another book since posting this thread. Also I have published with over a dozen pseudonyms thus far.

>>8454170
I want to publish something "good" too but I need the money and so on to be able to quit wagecuckery and dedicate myself full-time. I'm essentially a modern day Jack London, writing masses of slush with the intention of writing something worthwhile eventually.

>>8454151
You have to use your real name and bank account info to get paid but the books themselves can go up under pseudonyms.

>>8454178
Because literary fiction doesn't pay, but strangely enough loch ness erotica and Catcher in the Rye study guides and self-help books for mothers who suspect their children are internet addicts do. I'm writing a book on the memes of 2016 right now (since a few minutes ago) which I imagine will be around 50 pages long and targeted to journalists and people trying to understand internet culture.

>>8454181
I already make a good wage at my full-time job.

>>8454192
Sounds like a goldmine

what is the genre that sells the most, OP?

OP please post something of yours so I can gauge how much effort to put into these, because it sounds like you put in none yet people will buy them.

>>8454199
Erotica tends to do well pretty easily in the short reads sections from what I've seen. Also manuals on stupid shit that you can literally just look up on your own. There were two bestselling ones on how to cancel kindle unlimited subscriptions when I checked a week or two ago.

>>8454211
>There were two bestselling ones on how to cancel kindle unlimited subscriptions when I checked a week or two ago
I have no words to add to that. I just want to greentext it for the ages.

>>8454196
At which you presumably do no actual work because you're pumping out words at a hilarious rate?

Pretty sweet. I can't claim I'm not jelly.

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>>8454202
Here's an excerpt from one of my novellas. Written in about 30 minutes.

>>8454245
What else. Finish me off

>>8454251
Nope. I don't write this stuff for fun my man.

>>8454192
>literary fiction doesn't pay
I can tell, based on the topics you mentioned, that it doesn't pay for you because you're a hack. I mean, if it makes you feel warm inside for selling garbage then go for it.

>>8453732
Do you use multiple accounts/pen names?

>>8454310
Yes

>>8454303
Not OP, but can you name/link to any authors who are making money self-publishing litfic? Would be interesting.

>>8453732

you have written ~75 novellas in a row? Wow, quite a lot of output.

post source, maybe I'll buy one.

>>8454341
Not all are novellas. I've also written self-help books, psychology books, relationship advice and some poetry by people living in countries where I could find no affiliated poets.

what is your method to choosing what you're gonna write next and how do you write so fast?

>>8454260
How long is each book? Is the dirtier the better?

Any advice?

>>8454356
I really do allow my subconscious to decide such things for the most part. Right now I'm writing a book of poems by a fictional female poet from Tajikistan which I will also claim to have translated into English.

>>8454368
There is a thriving erotica scene on amazon but it's quite professional and people would generally prefer to spend the same amount of money on a carefully written 200-page novel than they would on a 60 page novella written by an autist. Make sure spelling is good, have a nice front cover, get your buzzwords right.

>>8454373
do you take inspirations from tajikistan to write the poems?

>>8454380
I do some minor research for the sake of having a believable name and poem titles which somewhat relate to the country.

>>8454373
>I'm writing a book of poems by a fictional female poet from Tajikistan which I will also claim to have translated into English.

aint that shit like...uh fraud

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>>8454170

>>8454402
You just don't get it, the reader is included in the meta-narrative in which he becomes a part of a "social experiment"

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>>8453732
>Every day I force myself to write a novella between 5 - 15 thousand words which I then self-publish on Amazon
>>8453881
Nope work an office job, I just keep a small box open for writing and type away like a madman all morning.
>>8453890
I pretty much just write a mixture of cliche and whatever my subconcious tells me to write.
>>8454185
I just completed and uploaded another book since posting this thread.

and this is why self-publishing is garbage and the cream will almost never rise; because of retards like you spamming the market for $35 a week. thanks, faggot.

>>8454334
if you're a skilled writer you wouldn't have to self publish and thus could make money

>>8454341
He said 5 - 15 thousand words, which is not particularly novella length; short stories are about 7000 often, and even short novellas are about 40,000 words.

Still impressive, but even novellas of comprobable length take time.

>>8454527
You made it. We're all gonna make it

>>8454373
How much poetry do you publish? Does it ever sell?

I'm appreciating this thread OP.

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>>8454444
quads of truth

>>8454432
yeah ive been hoping this man is memeing us but apparently he's just a real life artless plebeian. this is aggravating and sad.

>>8453742
Are you the guy writing the book about the religious guy?

>>8454444
>>8454559
Not him, but that's not how it works at all. Meritocracy is a meme.

nothing wrong with making a living.

does detective/slasher stuff sell?

do people shop erotica based on genre?

>>8454444
>all skilled and dedicated writers get published
Yeah, nah. Outstanding digits though.

>>8454373
>a fictional female poet from Tajikistan
Clever. You wouldn't actually make money, but that's probably the best way of making an impact on the literary world. A fraudulent impact, but hey, we're all postmodern now.

>>8453732
wait a sec. you write 15,000 words a week, publish, and only make $35/wk? what? at my old copywriting job i used to write 2500 words a week or so and receive $2,000 paychecks. while i admire your work rate, i highly doubt the writing is of any quality and you may also be doing yourself a disservice. there's nothing advantageous in flooding/spamming the market with lesser quality material.

>>8454798
>you write 15,000 words a week
i meant a day. jeez, man. good luck to you, though. didn't mean to sound so flippant. i just can't wrap my head around someone who writes that much and gets paid so little for the effort.

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OP here. Just got back from work, sorry for the delay in answering questions.

>>8454402
No idea. Hopefully not. I doubt anybody would take the time to sue me though.

>>8454546
Hey. So far I wrote one book of poetry which I advertised as having been influenced by Rupi Kaur (contemporary female poet in Canada who puts her stuff on instagram etc) and I had a bunch of sales presumably from her fanbase and by people wanting to read other women of colour such as "myself". Poetry overall doesn't sell though, which is why I picked a particular niche (female empowerment, teen empowerment) and went with it as best I could.

>>8454678
I don't know too much about genres to be honest, though what research I've done has told me that detective stuff is a good-seller, though whether that's only novels I don't know. A lot of sincere self-published writers tend to go for detective stuff, and in my city at least most of the advertisements for books on the subway etc are for that genre. As for erotic stuff then yes there are many specific sub-genres (tabbo incest stuff etc) and there are also a lot of romantic sub-genres which are pretty much just erotica with a few hand-holding scenes in between. Pic related are your options for that genre.

>>8454739
I think I might make some money on it. I mean Tajikistan has a population of 8million people and if I create a fake facebook and spam the book on some Tajiki communities etc it may pick up some traction.

>>8454798
>>8454809
It took me a while to get into the flow of things and start designing covers well and so on, and the royalties have been rising with each week. I'm not expecting to be rich but it's nice watching money coming in without having to do much to earn it after the thing is published. I also have a steady wage at the job I work at.

>>8454843
>selling fake Tajik poetry to actual Tajiks
That's even more impressively brazen. I was assuming you were aiming at English speakers after some exotic literature with hipster appeal.

Do you generally put effort/spend money on marketing these things, though? Or would the Tajik thing be a one-off experiment?

As for fraud, legally I'd assume you can claim it's artistic license or whatever. There's a long history of artists claiming to be someone else.

>>8454809
> i just can't wrap my head around someone who writes that much and gets paid so little for the effort.

Me neither. I don't know if this is because I'm jealous of the fact OP is making easy money exploiting women or that I see it as degeneracy but I wouldn't want to associate with someone who does this sort of thing. When looking at the big picture, I don't see the difference between writing erotica, selling used panties online or prostitution. It's all exploiting confused mentally retarded people. IMO, I don't see it as right, before, I wouldn't care, but now that I'm thinking about it, you need morals to align yourself to.

Honestly if this is what OP he enjoys doing then he should do it, I'm not once to talk, when I'm high on lust I entertain the thoughts of buying used panties and maybe erotica, but then I just wank to free stories on reddit so I don't believe any highly of myself.

It's a dog eat dog world, people abuse one another so I can't expect anything and hey, cam whores don't care that they are exploiting pathetic betas out of 1000's of bucks.

I mean what the fuck, OP's market and the whole internet sex audience are fucking retarded and for that reason I refuse to acknowledge them as human beings worthy of being friends with.

In conclusion; OP is exploiting retards

Good because the majority are 30 year old bored housewives

>>8454843
yes, but overall your way about it seems to be a weak model for income when with a little more effort and quality control, you can have a legitimate career in writing that would exponentially increase your current earnings. anyways, good luck with your writing.

>>8454868
I have several facebook profiles and around 50 email addresses and one of the facebook profiles is of a middle-aged woman who is writing erotic fiction. She has around 75 friends on there and also belongs to a bunch of erotic fiction writing and reading groups. There's a sense of community on there and people are sometimes willing to buy your books if they are short and cater for a specific fetish or theme. Bored midwestern housewife is a demographic I seem to be doing particularly well with. Non-white female authors are doing pretty well right now in terms of exposure so I might write some stuff about escaping ISIS or something like that in the near future.

>>8454880
I'm open to any advice or guidance my man. I realize putting more effort into advertising etc would probably help out and I might look into it soon. I also realize longer and more serious works tend to sell better and spread more easily among readers who recommend it to each other, but I really don't care enough to write 100,000 words with plots and character arcs and the rest of it and risk only selling a few more copies than I would writing about a woman from Sheboygan getting raped by a Yeti.

>>8454928
>I really don't care enough to write 100,000 words with plots and character arcs and the rest of it
after reading this entire thread, something tells me maybe you're simply incapable of such a feat and are passing off barely comprehensible first drafts as finished products. ciao.

>>8454946
Yeah, it does seem like he got so used to churning out crap that he can't do anything else.

>>8454946
>>8454960
OP here. I should point out that I am also writing a novel that I hope to publish via traditional means and which would be classified as "literary" and / or "highbrow". As I have mentioned, I am little more than the modern equivalent of someone like Jack London, Upton Sinclair and all those other writers who published masses of what might be considered "crap" while lending their actual talents and skills to their main novel.

>>8454245
i see no value in reading this, but if it works for you and you feel like your writing improves i wish you all the best.
you seem to strive to be a high performing shitposter.

>>8454966
Post a paragraph from your "main novel".

>>8454966
yeah post some writing babby i wanna see what a "modern Jack London" autist shitkid is writing

>>8454973
>>8454977
I won't post a paragraph, but I'll post the first line to give you a flavour, so to speak:

>"Medgar realized, with a sort of laugh, that every joke he had recently heard had been told by himself, to himself, and at his own expense"

>>8453732
How much do you charge per book?

>>8454989
>tfw you realise, with a sort of laugh, that OP may have been memeing you at your own expense

>>8454245
Given that I was expecting literal gibberish, that's... better than expected. But it looks like about 400 words- at that pace, to get above 5000 would be a full day's work.

>>8454989
This is that 100 post anon again.
Newfags, there is a poster who constantly creates really elaborate schemes to mess with people by getting them to feel sympathy for his character and then slowly dissolve into autism, it usually always begins with calling himself a genius (I've noticed this pattern) he used to joke about his 6 volume memoir or this time that he paid a publisher to publish his book and he scheduled a book signing at a barnes and noble where only his mom came and bought 3 copies of the book. He does this because he's admitted he has nothing else in life and gets some sort of pleasure out of it, anyway, he had me going for a little bit until I saw him descend into cunty autism but the nail in the coffin is this quote that he always uses when people ask to see his writing in these threads (because it's pretty good but it comes from an archived post from years ago back when warosu was up, someone else found that one out, he usually takes any written material from past critique threads but almost always this one):
>"Magnus realized, with a sort of laugh, that every joke he had recently heard had been told by himself, to himself, and at his own expense."
Anyway OP, you should really find something else to occupy your time if this is all you really have.

>>8454872
John Green has been doing this for years.

>>8455020
I've seen this exact post before. Whether it's true or not, one thing is clear: WE ARE STILL INSIDE THE MEME

How do you make the covers?

>>8455046
MS paint + stock images

>>8454966
>>8454960
yeah, the more this thread continues the more i realize it's all bait. well done, OP. you had me fooled for a while there, kid.

>>8455020
>>8455036
help me understand the psychology behind these posts without resorting to the general blanket term tossed around here: autism. what pleasure is there to be had from this type of ruse? not only is it submoronic and juvenile, there's no real reward to be gained. is all he really after the brief satisfaction of having pulled one over in a medium/forum where that is easily done? i mean, this isn't even a clever ruse.

>>8455046
If you search "buy original ebook covers" you will find graphic designers making $$ from churning out fantasy and fiction covers. The prices seem decent enough.

>>8455263
Personally I was entertained by OP's tales, so it doesn't seem a stretch that OP found it fun too. Isn't that why people read and write fiction?

>>8455280
nah, this entire thread is just dumb. a handful of posts in and it was obvious this poster has issues if this is his creative outlet. this goes beyond duncehood into masturbatory, self-gratification territory, the hallmark of a true imbecile.

>>8455312
Thanks for your opinion!

>>8455312
doyouevenknowwhereyouare?.jpg

>>8454034
>>8454034
Fucking kek. I wish you the best Anon, mind posting an exerpt? Blow my fucking mind.

>>8454245
That literally reads like Lorie Moore. Just read one of her short stories and you'll see. Wow.

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Self published here.
First book of sci fi series is in everything from Amazon to 24 symbols. Next book out in three weeks and new books will be made available every 3-4 months through 2018. These are the truths I've learned:
Have your work professionally edited
Pay to have a professional cover made
Use KDP select for 90 days to get exposure then cut ties and publish your book/s through Kobo and Draft2digital. That will take you worldwide.
???
Profit

Pic related: fan art sent from a beta reader

>>8454245
>!?


o god

>>8454582
Probably, I'm not going to shill it with my own threads but I do like to relieve the anxiety with those green text plot threads.

>>8454835
>Romance
>>African American

is that cuck lit or something?

>>8454170
99% of people are like you, nothing is never good enough, that is why people like myself and OP make a killing, because while you are working your ass off for years creating something perfect we bank in "good enough"

>>8455263
>is all he really after the brief satisfaction of having pulled one over in a medium/forum where that is easily done?
Probably. I often pretend to be a girl on omegle to fuck with absolute pathetic beta types. While I may have gotten some perverse semi-sexual pleasure out of it once, that ended long ago and I'm not sure what I get out of it now besides the sheer entertainment of fooling someone with an elaborate story. I assume the avearge /lit/ poster is at least slightly more cynical and less easy to fool than the losers that populate Omegle.

>>8455263
What else is going to be? attention!!! that is what he is looking for.

>>8455020
I ... I can't trust anything anymore, I feel suspiciously as if this post sounds too familiar too. What is going on here.... are we being socially experimented on?

>>8455908

Well, also the fact that their idea of perfection is total garbage to pretty much everyone except themselves.

There was a very similar thread on /lit/ last week except that anon claimed $200+/week. This anon's posts read almost the same. The last guy had a trip, though.

>>8453756
You edit. Then you get someone else to read and edit it. And then you sort out the ISBN, cover and other things before you hit the publish button. There should be a guide online somewhere. don't overcharge online either. You can get away with $0.99 as an unknown.

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>>8453732
>10k words per day

You are my pulp idol.

>>8455961
Pretty sure you're gay

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>>8453732
>Every day I force myself to write a novella between 5 - 15 thousand words
I fucking hate you
Fuck
How do I do this?
>>8453890
>I pretty much just write a mixture of cliche and whatever my subconcious tells me to write.
Oh nvm

>>8455011
>"Jesus Christ," I exclaimed, with a sort of kek, that OP got me good.

My cost of living is about €7k a year, this really makes me wonder if I can make that kind of money publishing trash desu.

>>8455020
>>8456022

Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure that anon last was using "Magnus" as his trip.

>>8456060
It's a possibility I have considered, other dudes smell weird though.

>>8456055
It depends on the length. I'd actually say that anything longer than 20 pages should be 2.99 minimum because you'll get the 70% royalty and it'll be taken more seriously than something priced at 99 cents.

>>8454226
Not the other anon but I work in tech and get 62k a year.
Feels good man.

>>8455983
I look forward to this thread being published on Amazon as The /Lit/erati: A Metafiction.

(actually that would be a hilarious way to produce a ridiculous amount of content quickly. Formatting might be a challenge though)

>>8453732
One novel just shy of 100k words awful cliche scifi published, one novella 30k words awful but less cliche.

A single positive review, which is more than I thought I'd get, so I count it as a win.

I'm not that good at writing in English for it is not my native language, but I've been considering writing some sort of crappy erotica novellas/short stories, too.

I wouldn't care that much about making money, it'd be for training my language skills as well. But it'd be neat to get a dolla every now and then.

>>8453876
>Not posting links yet,

then it didn't happen. until you do. i can photoshop screenshots just as well as you can.

>>8455993
Totally agreed anon

Does anyone have any experience with selling non-erotic fiction through the Kindle store?

>>8456109
>My cost of living is about €7k a year,
How/where?

>>8457383
Netherlands. Social housing or shared housing and simple living go a long way.

If that income would be location independent like with an internet business though you could easily move to a place with a much lower cost of living and bring expenses down even more.

>>8457451
You're not living on 7k then, you're living on 7k+whatever free money/housing you get.

It's like saying if I got all my living expenses paid for, I could live for free.

>>8457459
In that case nobody lives what they live on with all the subsidised parts of the economy that everyone benefits from at some point or the other. We also all pay taxes into that system, so it's not 'free money'.

But if it's the social housing that bothers you, just replace it with shared housing. The cost of a room in a shared house is about the same as a small apartment on social housing.

>>8457477
>everyone
Only people in rich countries like yours that live on the backs of poor countries like mine. I've never gotten any free shit in my life and never will.

>>8457491
Do you have roads in your country? Then you get 'free shit'.

>>8457497
No, rich people who can afford a car get free shit.

>>8457503
You can walk on the roads, anon.

Which country are you from?

>>8457515
Yeah, I can eat asphalt too, on a hot day.

>>8457519
You can also spend your time shitposting on your internet connected computing device, that's nice at least.

>>8457521
I don't see how that's helpful though.

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I also self-publish.
Mostly erotica.
I believe this may be my true calling but I have yet to make a living out of it. I want to, but you know how the market goes.

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>>8457272
I do. Pic related is the current ad performance of

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016605O6C

I'm most likely not going to make any money off it through this ad alone, but it's gotten the word out fairly well considering that this thing wasn't written with any sort of genre or audience in mind.

>>8457842
sheeit, I remember you from some other threads

>>8457529
the internet is great for poor people since it provides near endless entertainment for very little money

>>8458089
it's also a great source of education of course desu

>>8458093
No it isn't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTJvdGcb7Fs

>>8458184
porn is quite educational desu

>>8458089
So does jerking off, how is it helpful though?

>>8453742
>not like your average pulpy SFF

Has anyone ever noticed that every sci-fi author always says this?

>>8459084
Yeah, that's why I said (hopefully)

>>8453732
oh, so you're the reason there are a billion shitty ebooks flooding amazon and why no one takes that format seriously and people have to sell actual good books they put actual work and thought into for $2.99. nice work op you fucking swill merchant

>>8459454
It was all a ruse or some shit. It smacked of bullshit all along but people were willing to believe that 15k words of trash could be churned out that quickly because their pretensions made them more gullible.

It was even more blatantly obvious by the "Tajikistan" part though.

>>8453732
>5 - 15 thousand words

Bullshit. It takes me hours to get into 3k territory.

Fuck, I wish I can write fast.

>>8454192
>book of memes

Damn, you stole my idea, anon.

>>8454245
>goosepimpled
>that high-pitched whiny voice

>>8454102
>>I don't. At first I was part of a writing collective on eight-chan where we'd all self-publish books (mainly erotica) and then spam positive reviews. But since then readers have managed to find me somehow.
your readers are normie girls or menopausal women

>>8456109
>My cost of living is about €7k a year,
I count 15k/year in france, for taxes+bills+rent+food.
20k/year for adding a car

>>8454151
scratch, eh?

OP here.

If anybody would like to recommend a subject or plot for today's novella I'll try and finish it in a few hours and post here when it's published.

Also, not sure if someone here found my writing because a bunch of sales came in overnight that I wasn't' expecting. Thanks to those who did buy my stuff.

>>8460581
Write about a Nigerian Tennis player stranded in Tokyo

>>8460592
Ok, but it'll need a genre.

>>8460594
Depends where you want to take it f@m. He might find a local sweetheart, a nice romance. Or he meets a Shanto/Buddhist monk, a deepening spiritual fiction. Maybe it's an adventure novel.

>>8460602
Thanks my man. I think I can synthesize those ideas and produce something of (monetary) value.

>>8454373
>Right now I'm writing a book of poems by a fictional female poet from Tajikistan which I will also claim to have translated into English.
i'm rooting for you my friend

>>8453732
I've just started the planning for my first novella, gonna do the same as you and self publish it

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OP here. Today's novella is underway, thanks >>8460602 for being my muse.

Here's the first page.

>>8460671
Nigerians don't talk like that

>>8460671
i'm loving it. whats it going to be about

>>8460734
Thank you. So far it's about Nigerian tennis player named Mambila Foster Wallace who travels to Toky, Japan to represent his country in a competition which is the first ever to pit human beings against robotic tennis players created by Mitsibushi. On his way to his hotel however he becomes lost and is targeted by one of Tokyo's many Noodlemen, who are in fact a subversive organization who sell tainted noodles to unwitting consumers which are so addictive that those who eat them drift into a hikikimori life wherein they have no friends, girlfriends, jobs or ambitions other than to eat noodles every day in their bedrooms. Mambila is rescued however by Yume, a female monk who is fighting the Noodlemen and attempting meanwhile to rescue the hikikimori from their noodle addiction. Together they re-program the tennis robots to attack the Noodlemen and the Hikikimori emerge from their apartments squinting and pale and emaciated and cheer Mambila and Yume for setting them free.

>>8453732
all these people taking the bait. christ you lot are pathetic

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OP here.

Yesterday's novella is about to be published.

I'm 4000 words deep in today's novella.

>>8460671
>>8460905
put a link your amazon profile so I can see read Mambila and the Monk when it comes out

>>8460944
Will do bud.

>>8460483
>MacDonald's literary career began almost by accident. In 1945, while still in the Army, he wrote a short story and mailed it to his wife. She submitted it to Esquire magazine, which rejected it. She then sent it to Story magazine, which accepted for $25, good money for that time. He learned of this just after his ship arrived in the United States.

>After his discharge, MacDonald spent four months writing short stories, generating some 800,000 words and losing 20 pounds (9.1 kg) while typing 14 hours a day, seven days a week. He received hundreds of rejection slips, but finally a $40 sale to the pulp magazine Dime Detective set his career in motion. He would eventually sell nearly 500 short stories to the detective, mystery, adventure, sports, Western, and science fiction magazines.[4] Several times, MacDonald's stories were the only ones in an issue of a magazine, but this was hidden by using pseudonyms.

That's 6,600 wpd. With a computer and lower standards...?

ok guys, this thread has motivated me.
I was going to make a thread about self publishing but this has motivated me.

I can type pretty fast and could work 50-100 pages in one week.

But I've always though my spanish (my native language) was crap, even if my normie friends seem to think I'm good and entertaining.

I guess I should stop caring about quality and focus more on making a thirld world living in my taco shithole.

I guess I could practice by writing crap and then writing something good and publish it traditionally.

my goal is to make something similar to light novels with anime drawings.

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>>8461195
OP here. Good luck. I've published two novels since starting this thread yesterday. Just write without thinking too much and allow your subconcious to do the hard work!

>>8461209
nice to see you're still here.

do I need a bank account, a paypal, or what?

>>8453732
dude, thats the equivalent of a guy that sells portraits on the park.

I mean, yeah you are making your art, but come on, you are making peanuts and selling words by the pound.

>>8461214
You need some form of bank account where royalties can be paid automatically, yes.

>>8461281
How to get one without my real name being tied to cheap smut?

>>8461228
OP. I actually made $15 over night (I think some people here somehow found my page) and I'm making more each week. Soon I will have a decent income and won't have to do anything further to earn it. It's a nice feeling to wake up and see that a bunch of people have bought your stuff.

>>8461281
how bout landing a book with some small indie publisher rather than self publish?

or is this like youtube?

also, how to market?

>>8461283
Just write under a pseudonym. I've published my work under over 20 pseudonyms so far.

>>8461291
I'm not asking about that end, but the other end. It's still going to a real name bank account.

>>8461289
I will only submit my sincere and ambitious writing to publishers, for the moment I'm just making easy money doing easy work.

I haven't marketed much beyond making several facebook accounts belonging to middle-aged housewives and shilling my work by joining groups and conducting discussions between my different accounts praising the writing of a third or fourth account. I plan to branch out soon with the Tajikistan poetry and other international markets.

>>8461294
But who is going to know besides you?

>>8461299
Are you seriously asking this in 2016.

>>8461284
yeah ok. point granted. But still, dont think that people will always keep buying your old stuff. You will always have to write at the same pace.

>won't have to do anything further to earn it
lol, no.

thanks OP.
I was planning also maybe to do the written version of snes jrpgs.
maybe I can hit some sweet deal with it.

>>8461307
What do you mean?

Who else will see?

>>8461289
Indie publishers are worse than self-publishing if you're trying to make money. Even if you're doing it for bragging rights/to get your foot in the door with an actual publisher, it's not that much better.

>>8461380
is self publishing like youtube?

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OP here. Today's novella is coming along nicely. Over 30k words so far!

OP how bout comics, do they also work in your method?

>>8461397
brutal

>>8461415
I haven't produced any myself, but here are the existing Amazon genres for comics:

COMICS & GRAPHIC NOVELS
General
Adaptations
Anthologies
Contemporary Women
Crime & Mystery
Erotica
Fantasy
Historical Fiction
Horror
LGBT
Literary

+Manga
General
Adult Comics
Boys' Love Comics
Crime & Mystery
Erotica
Fantasy
Historical Fiction
Horror
Illustrations & Fanbooks
Josei Manga
LGBT
Media Tie-In
Nonfiction
Romance
Science Fiction
Seinen Manga
Shonen Manga
Shoujo Manga
Sports
Yaoi Manga

Media Tie-In
Nonfiction
Religious
Romance
Science Fiction
Superheroes

>>8459033
Helpful towards what?

>>8461390
No because you can directly make money through sales instead of trying to get ad revenue or having to become a "partner".

>>8461520
yeah, but I mean is like youtube in the sense is self publishing and you have to be worthwhile in a ocean of shit.

Also, how long until you start making 10 bucks from your first story?

how long does it takes the first sell?

>>8461690
You don't have to be worthwhile at all. It's all about marketing.

>>8461397
How the fuck do you write 33,020 words in under six hours? Are you autistic?

>>8460079
5-15k words are easily churned out in a day, especially if it's fucking trash. are you still in junior high and worried about your 500 word essay due tomorrow? amazon is literally filled with this type of bottom feeder shit

>>8460671
>>8461397
Looks like a compelling examination of racial prejudice in an increasingly interconnected world.

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>>8454034
literally the pic related of literature
god bless you anon, and post your fucking amazon page

>>8461948
5k maybe. 15 no. Not unless you're copy/pasting some other shit and slightly rerwriting it.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Yzy8VNehk8

>>8462059
So you really think that 15k words in a day is not possible for anyone with a WPM higher than a one fingered ape?

>>8455681
I'm rooting for you, gaskun.

>>8462168
It's not possible if the words are supposed to make any sense once strung together.

What's the best tool for high-volume writing?

Is there one of those minimalist editors that can track time and word count by session or by day?

>>8453732
Do you actually finish a 5-15k word novella every day? What does it take to self-publish on Amazon?

>>8462188
Whatever kid, just because you can't do it, doesn't mean it's impossible.

>>8454462
>even short novellas are about 40,000 words.
In my opinion that would be a short novel.
What do you consider a short novel then?

>>8462211
50k is the bare minimum for novel-length.

OP here.

>>8462200
I just minimize a Word page and have it right in the bottom corner of my screen so none of my work colleagues can see it when they pass.

>>8462207
Pretty much every day yeah. It takes very little to publish on Amazon.Just a bank account and email address.

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OP are u still here?

I just wrote my first page, this is for an ilustrated story I also plan on drawing.

This is the first page I wrote and plan on putting some drawings, mostly to increase the page count.

This could be rather half chapter.

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>>8453881
Oh... I thought the OP was a joke jabbing at self publishing authors exhausting themselves for peanuts.

>>8462714
sounds like YA trash

I'm writing a rip off of One Hundred Years of Solitude and trying to kick up those page counts

Dubs names my novel

>>8463073
One Hundred and One Years of Solitude

>>8463073
Pride and Prejudice

>>8463073
Electric Solitudiloo

>>8463073
One Hundred Pages of Wankitude

>>8463073
100 years of autofellatio

>>8462221
I thought it was 40
Google told me it was 40

>>8463073
One Hundred Pears Are Delicious, Dude.

>>8463073
Daring Do and the Jungle of Terror

how much can I sell a short tale?

>>8463073
Duke's Castle of Farting Bullshit, or, My Plea for Universal Abortion

>>8463073
Sex Crimes in the Orient: The Jackie Chan Story

>>8463073
Nigger Joe Broke a Nigger's Nose

>>8463073
George Sells the Man in the Yellow Hat to a Colombian Cartel for Drug Money, But Blows it on Cocaine: HE LEARNS A GOOD LESSON THO

>>8463073
I Can't Autofellate My Tiny Dick: An Acrobat's Tragic Tale

>>8463073
One Year of Solitude, or, Why Mommy Decided to Off Me in My 7th Trimester

>>8463566
winner winner chicken dinner

>>8454989
god fucking dammit

>>8462714
OP here. If you publish it then post the link here and I'll leave a positive review.

We should have a thread where we write as many words as we can in a certain amount of time. See how many of us can write fast like OP.

>>8464103
How's today's novella coming along?

Rescue

and it took me 4 years to get to 80k words, and still editing

>>8455681
Really cool that you got fan art