>Fact that I'm forgotten that I'm left on the shelf

He lived for this whiny, obvious-profound, defeatist shit. He's never quite as bad DFW at least. People here shit on Pynchon, but, at least he never resorts to woeisme porn.

Is agape agape good? I liked recognitions

>>8387865
It's a 90 page monologue by a loopy ranting cancer and emphysema-riddled old man on his deathbed.

Other than the themes/ideas, it's not really like any of his other books.

>>8387854
People here shit on Pynchon because they have the reading comprehension of an 11 year old, or they've only read his bad books (which, to be fair, there are quite a few...)

>>8387854
>>8387939
I've never seen anyone on /lit/ shit on Pynchon aside from the sarcastic meme trilogy caption.

>>8387945
It happens a lot more often than you'd think.

>>8387986
I've seen a lot of Pynchon discussion on this board and not one post unironically said anything bad about him.

>>8387829
that's been a thing since the late 80s/early 90s, of course he knew.

>>8388065
Has it really? I just find the image of someone in their 40s or 50s still going around and saying that shit to be unduly pathetic.

>>8387945
pynchon is absolutely terrible

>>8388099
Yes, Harold Bloom's The Western Canon from 1994 was a direct response to it.

>>8388104
thank you for defiling my innocent virgin eyes

>>8388104
you know people used to put effort into their shitposts. now it's just "thing is bad".

>>8388120
pynchon is objectively bad though

>>8388123
see there you go again
"thing is bad"
why do you bother?

>>8387923
That sounds kinda neat, I might check it out

>>8387829
He was ignored in life and forgotten in death.

I was gonna quip a sarcastic epithet there, but now I'm sad.

>>8388003
Personally i couldnt get past the first 200 pages of GR; and i didnt really want to.
Perhaps i made a mistake reading that as my first pinecone novel, but i struggled to take it seriously and felt as if the book was written to simply make a mockery of literary tradition (which i suppose it was lol).Whilst im not against that as a concept, it doesnt make for a pleasurable read imo. Im not sure what people see in it.

>>8387945
There are now. Result of too many memes and in-jokes being kicked up here by those who do appreciate him. Now every semi-literate newcomer who has no business trying to read this kind of thing starts off by breaking a tooth on it

>>8388515
That's because you've taken the retards memeing him as a kekman seriously, you idiot
Try reading things with clear expectations next time

>>8388592
Expectations of any kind are part of the problem. I went into V. having no idea what it was about and loved it.

>>8389032
I went into V. having no expectations and I hated it.

>>8387939
What would be his good ones?

I couldn't stand Crying of Lot 49 and Vineland.
His early short stories are the only of his I have enjoyed.

>>8389096
V. GR and M&D are typically considered his best. Inherent Vice is usually at least thought of as likable.

>>8389254
If i don't like V. i'm fucked? in terms of enjoying his work i mean

>>8388592
>Now every semi-literate newcomer who has no business trying to read this kind of thing starts off by breaking a tooth on it
That's what happened to me but I still don't blame it on the author. Gravity's Rainbow is written with very obvious skill regardless of how little I understand of it.

>>8389361
i've seen people on here say they didnt like V. but liked GR. I personally think V. is his best work and that M&D is overrated

>>8389549
Damn you have shit taste. Absolutely brain dead mother fucker too.