>watching news >realize that the Greeks had basically said

>>8321600
Because the Greeks have been removed from most of Western education.

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We live the same lives in different times, friendo.

>>8321600
>arrogant because some random guy didn't give a speech as good as one of the most iconic pieces of rhetoric in all of western civilization

>>8321620
This is pretty much the entire point of reading the Greeks, Thucydides (and so Pericles' speech) especially. There is a certain constancy to human nature without which the study of history would be meaningless for giving us insights into the future.

>>8321609
Also this. Classical education is all but dead. Maybe it still exists in some high class and exclusive upbringings, but it's totally overshadowed by the masses of people going to university without even tasting classical education.

>>8321609
yeah. went through high school honors english without reading the greeks. about to finish college without reading the greeks. still havent read the greeks for pleasure either.

>This is pretty much the entire point of reading the Greeks, Thucydides (and so Pericles' speech) especially. There is a certain constancy to human nature without which the study of history would be meaningless for giving us insights into the future.
That's exactly it, and he himself recognised it.
Call it arrogant on my behalf, I claim there is a certain nihilistic sentiment behind it as well though. Either way, it's hard to help feeling disappointed by it all.

>>8321671
Do it, man. Thucydides is honestly a fucking treat to read.

>>8321695
Meant to reply to >>8321665 for the first part

>>8321600
>>8321609
Maybe they removed it intentionally to protect people from this feeling.