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Reading Schopenhauer's "Art of Controversy" and realized it's basically "Advanced Shitposting Strategies"
>Stratagem XIV
>This, which is an impudent trick, is played as follows: When your opponent has answered several of your questions without the answers turning out favourable to the conclusion at which you are aiming, advance the desired conclusion, — although it does not in the least follow, — as though it had been proved, and proclaim it in a tone of triumph. If your opponent is shy or stupid, and you yourself possess a great deal of impudence and a good voice, the trick may easily succeed. It is akin to the fallacy non causae ut causae.
>Stratagem XXXII
>If you are confronted with an assertion, there is a short way of getting rid of it, or, at any rate, of throwing suspicion on it, by putting it into some odious category; even though the connection is only apparent, or else of a loose character. You can say, for instance, "That is Manichaeism" or "It is Arianism," or "Pelagianism," or "Idealism," or "Spinozism," or "Pantheism," or "Brownianism," or "Naturalism," or "Atheism," or "Rationalism," "Spiritualism," "Mysticism," and so on. In making an objection of this kind, you take it for granted (1) that the assertion in question is identical with, or is at least contained in, the category cited - that is to say, you cry out, "Oh, I have heard that before"; and (2) that the system referred to has been entirely refuted, and does not contain a word of truth.
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>>8295781
>reading anything but his 'On Women' essay
pseud
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I'm surprised this isn't on the /lit/ starter pack
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>>8295829
God could you imagine?
Everyone here would have an advanced degree in shitposting, it's be intolerable.
But then again maybe we'd develop whole new levels of shitposting. Take shitposting to heights we can't even dream about. A brave new shitposting world.
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>>8295781
I'm going to read it and up my game and get hella (You)'s .
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>>8295781
holy shit
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>>8295781
>"Oh, I have heard that before"; and (2) that the system referred to has been entirely refuted, and does not contain a word of truth.
this LITERALLY what you faggots keep doing to me, I hate it so much
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>On Womeme
>The Art of Shitposting
Schopenhauer confirmed as No.#1 meme philosopher
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>>8295982
>Schopenhauer confirmed as No.#1 meme philosopher
that is Hegelianism
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>>8295781
just imagine a graduate seminar in shitposting with the Schopster
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>>8296107
>stratagem XXXII
impudent memesters begone
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>>8296158
ad hominem
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>>8295982
#2, Diogenes successfully shitposted Plato
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>>8295781
Arthur was so much ahead of his time
He basically invented MGTOW, shitposting and /pol/.
>The highest civilization and culture, apart from the ancient Hindus and Egyptians, are found exclusively among the white races; and even with many dark peoples, the ruling caste or race is fairer in colour than the rest and has, therefore, evidently immigrated, for example, the Brahmans, the Incas, and the rulers of the South Sea Islands. All this is due to the fact that necessity is the mother of invention because those tribes that emigrated early to the north, and there gradually became white, had to develop all their intellectual powers and invent and perfect all the arts in their struggle with need, want and misery, which in their many forms were brought about by the climate. This they had to do in order to make up for the parsimony of nature and out of it all came their high civilization
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>>8295781
This is postmodernism
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>>8296107
Wait is it? I am curious as to why
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>>8295781
DELETE THIS!!
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https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Art_of_Being_Right
My favorites are "Make your opponent angry", "Claim victory despite defeat", and of course "Become personal, insulting, rude".
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>>8297073
>ignoring the excellent "Meet him With a Counter-Argument as Bad as His"
this site has certainly learned a thing or two
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>>8295781
Despite all the shitposting, Schopehhauer's philosophy is one of the best of XVIII-XIX centuries.
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>>8297073
Is Schoppenhauer the master of (you)s?
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Apologize.
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>>8297234
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>>8297241
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>>8297073
Holy fucking shit he invented shitposting
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>>8297320
*cough*
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>>8295781
fuck, why isn't this in my book of schopenhauer's aphorisms?
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>>8297340
these aren't aphorisms
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>ywn watch Schoppy and Diogenes try to outshitpost each other
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>>8297330
Where are his posts bruh
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>>8297413
a mod deleted them
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>>8295905
I was going to point out that I see this sort of thing all the time. In it's most common form:
>(cultural) Marxism!
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>>8295791
On Reading, On Noise, On Suicide
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>>8297467
kek
post more pls
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>>8297362
>Schopenhauer's "Art of Controversy"
well, it's a book of essays and aphorisms, to be precise.
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>>8297143
Sadly, Schopenhauer didn't get very many (You)'s in his lifetime, and often had to toil away in obscurity while Hegel soaked up all the dank (You)dom. And so he vowed to create a masterpiece of generating and churning out enough (You's) for generations of future young men so that they would never know what it is to be cucked by a fucking faggot Chad named Hegel. We now have access to this power, and never again will we go wanting
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>>8295905
wew. Stratagem XXXII describes like 90% of the posts on this board
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>>8297542
yes but OP's stratagem excerpts themselves are not aphorisms
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Spooks. I win!
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I have this in book form.
You fucks haven't read it.
He distinguishes between what is 'right' and what is 'true'. The book might help you with the former, but Schopenhauer actually disowned the work in his later years upon realizing that it is better to have the truth than to win mere arguments/debates. Of course, you can do both at the same time: but where you can't convince the mob, err on the side of truth.
EVEN STILL, he wasn't really recommending the arguments he advises, so much as pointing them out in an ironic/sarcastic way. In pointing them out, he is rendering them less capable of crippling you.
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>>8295905
Things like Marxism have been entirely refuted, though. There are times when the arguments apply.
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>>8298174
Marxism is simply a misinterpretation of Hegel.
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>>8298179
And Hegel is a misinterpretation of morality.
Heh...
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>>8298187
We can try to fix that with Lacan
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>>8298201
You can't polish a turd.
The trouble with so much of Western philosophy is that it held Hegel to be the heir to Kant, rather than Schopenhauer.
Hence all the esoteric obscurantism we see in Post-Modernism/Structuralism/etc.
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>>8297073
>Make your opponent angry
>This trick consists in making your opponent angry; for when he is angry he is incapable of judging aright, and perceiving where his advantage lies. You can make him angry by doing him repeated injustice, or practising some kind of chicanery, and being generally insolent.
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>>8297330
>le shit in the streets man
That's just being an Indian
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>>8296179
Where can you read stuff that Diogenes wrote? Isn't it mostly second hand retellings of the things he might have said?
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>>8298170
You're just butthurt.
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>Should he maintain that Berlin is an unpleasant place to live in, you may say, "Why don't you leave by the first train?"
I guess Berlin was a pisshole even before the muzzies invaded
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>>8295791
That's the opposite of a pseud.
On women is his least interesting or enlightening piece of writing. It's just for mysoginistic tards. 2 volumes of world as will, fourfold root and people focus on that essay
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>>8298398
>Unironically subscribing to the 'misogyny' conspiracy theory
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>>8298422
>words don't have meaning
>things are not to be deduced unless stated by an approved authority figure or a flawless argument is constructed that is then approved by the same authority figure
schoppy disliked women. is this even disputed?
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>>8298465
Why's that wrong, though?
Seems pretty reasonable tbqh
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Don't forget Schoppy applied this as a teenager on fancy parties with the likes of Goethe and such in attendance.
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>>8298291
aka copypasta
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>>8298398
Reality has a misogynistic bias.
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>>8298291
His writings are lost, so you probably already know everything about him that you can know. Too bad he didn't have a group of lackeys like Socrates to write down Diogenic dialogues.
>I believe the virtue of justice lies in the separation of labor
>I believe Athens is buttfucking the rest of Greece
>But Athens is the bastion of Greek democracy
>My vote doesn't ever change an election, but my shit can serve as fertilizer that helps grow the food that keeps us alive. Which is more valuable, my shit or your precious state that defies your definition of virtue?
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>>8298596
>Goethe
The romantics must have been the most fun group of people to get worked up. Imagine Hugo's face when you made fun of any French defeat
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>>8298611
Taking a 5 year old meme from Reddit, for shame.
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>>8295829
it was if you remember deep&edgy
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>>8297638
you deserve more (You)s
>>8298291
Diogenes is like a stock character, and there's only one anecdote which has a chance of being from a contemporary out of all of them. What's great about Diogenes is that for hundreds of years after any time anyone came up with some shit a Diogenes memer would come up with, they said they were quoting Diogenes not making shit up.
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