>Brexit >Austrian election results >Turkish coup >Increasing

You know the Turkish coup wasn't a reactionary or conservative movement.

>>8285337
it's still indicative of fragmentation and fundamentally anti-demotist

>Turkish coup
Is erdogan out?

B A S E D A S S A D

Also,

>plebs looking for some ideologue to worship

another day on the most intelligent board.

>>8285631
unfortunately the coup was thwarted

>>8285365
What is demotism

>>8285650
systems that are designed to garner popular support
really just means democracy + populist authoritarians (Putin may not be a democrat, but is a demotist)

>>8285337
Military coups are always reactionary, especially in the Arab world. The military rulers have to prove they're tough guys so they end up being even more repressive than the moderate islamists. Believe it or not the muslim brotherhood was actually a lot more tolerant in control of Egypt than Sisi is. Sisi had to start arresting gays and acting more crazy than the brotherhood to prove he's more legit than them in the eyes of the public. Modern secular militarism is responsible for a lot more deaths than religion has ever claimed.

>>8285666
has worked out ok in turkey before

if the military had read their Nick Land they would have realised the common people aren't worth shit and opened fire

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>>8285327

>>8285666
I'd rather a secular bastard than an Islamist one anyday. Islamism and Wahhabism is a scourge on the middle east, and only a Liberal or Sufi government can deliver them from such basic divides.

>>8285739
low IQ populations can't handle liberalism (high IQ populations barely can)
secular nationalism is the best MENA can hope for

>>8285739
Why do you all refuse to learn what sufism actually is. A "sufi government" is a completely meaningless description.

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>>8285727
>that filename

>>8285666
Turkey has this rather curious thing going on where the army is in support of the value brought to Turkey by Atatürk, namely secularism and equal civil rights. If you want to put it bluntly the army are guardians of the European values and they are opposing a government that flirts with Islamists and abandons all liberalism, so no they are not reactionary unless you mean they are trying to go back to a pre Islamist state.

>>8285739
Sorry to tell you but ISIS has mass popular support in places in Iraq and Syria because of the totalitarian mess liberal police states end in
The CIA backed secular dictatorship in Iran ended in an Islamic revolution
>>8285774
The mass population doesn't want "European values", military rule will breed a reaction which will explode in something much worse as it always does when you try to force this type of stuff