http://www.vox.com/2016/6/2/1183760 8/elon-musk-simulation-a

No desu

ARE WE LIVING IN THE MATRIX??

LOL

Elon Musk is dumb

>>8285183
Why not?

He sounds like an arrogant ass who doesn't know how to elaborate correctly.

Bostrom's simulation hypothesis is sound, Musk is just riding the bandwagon.

Dude there's so many miracles it'll blast your eyelids, this HAS GOT to be a simulation! There's NO other explanation.

What does this entail? That we're brains in jars living in a virtual world or that we're self aware programs?

you can't prove nuffin!

>>8285226
We are Sims.

>>8285226
Self aware programs. Musk's idea is that considering how quickly that video game and simulation technology are advancing for us (to the point where we will have programs indistinguishable from reality not too long from now) it's reasonable to assume that there was at least one civilization in the universe prior to us that managed to accomplish these developments, and we are a simulation being run by them.

>>8285227
But probably of it is higher than that it isn't.

>>8285226
We are things that labor under the illusion of having a self, that accretion of sensory experience and feelings, programmed with total assurance that we are each somebody, when in fact everybody's nobody

>>8285243
This is a socially positive idea. It introduces the idea of a mysterious omnipotent judge that can see and judge your thoughts and actions within a secular framework. In this way, even atheists can be convinced to engage in pure, selfless altruism.

>>8285256
Or 'dude it's just a game' and people go GTA mode

>>8285243
Musk forgets to account for the gap between "video game" and actual artificial intelligence/sentience.

Musk's example is how much has changed when you look at games right now compared to Pong in the 70's, but that's mostly just visual. Like a photorealistic painting, Uncharted 4 looks really fucking good, but it doesn't think. Not even close.

>>8285270
Oh fug, I hadn't thought about that.

>>8285256
Isn't the simulation hypothesis technically a creationist theory?

>>8285281
And like in GTA, all the immoral cunts are winning and have cool car collections and such.

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Michael Talbot Thinking Allowed Synchronicity

https://youtu.be/6rgYz_BU2Ew

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>>8285275
You sure?

Elon Musk is a welfare queen, his company wouldn't exist without government subsidies

>>8285325
That's efficiency, an intelligent lifeform wouldn't expel useless energy trying to 'make it on their own' for no reason except misplaced moralfaggotry.

STEMbots have worked tirelessly for the past 40 years to chastise the humanities' disposition towards speculation only to come up with shit like this.

Why are people acting like this is Musk's idea? He hasn't written a paper or anything either.

>>8285390
he's the steve jobs of nerd shit desu

>>8285429
http://www.simulation-argument.com/simulation.html

here's the essay, a non-fiction philosophical work

which is literature

>Suppose that these simulated people are conscious (as they would be if the simulations were sufficiently fine-grained and if a certain quite widely accepted position in the philosophy of mind is correct).
wut

>>8285540
materialism.

>>8285250
Wow, you have quite a way with words anon

>>8285429
enjoy getting banned for this worthless shitpost

Schopenhauer, in his splendid essay called "On an Apparent Intention in the Fate of the Individual,"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-M85OLHYcB4

>>8285550
gross

>>8285593
based schoppy

Elon Musk is so overrated

>>8285840
barry motors and rockets ey, but?

This is exactly what is meant by the phrase bourgeois philosophy.

>>8285840

You're overrated

>>8285191
Simulations all the way down!

The most stablish idea similar to this is the holographic theory that comes out of trying to make sense of some of the weirder black hole crap. I guess it's also pretty much Descartes' naughty tricksy demon in how Musk talks about it. So it also amounts to the shittiest kind of solipsist argument.

>>8285856
He just needs to find the right cheat codes and he'll be like superman.

>>8285871
>stablish
>make sense

is it fair to expect reality to conform to these anthropocentric demands though?

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>>8285878

A Man of Steele ?

https://youtu.be/5gbCAi-XT5o

>>8285888
It's the ol "do anything except eat this delicious knowledge fruit guys ;^)". There is a bit more than a tendency for humans to to go (boldly) into forbidden or fenced off areas. And at the moment in theoretical physics the ol black hole with the ol event horizon is one of those places. It's a place where what (we think) we know don't make sense. And you know that if we ever develop proper sci fi space travel you know some little shit is going to head straight for somewhere like that straight away to look at it.

I'm , not totally sure what that amounts to. Anthropocentrism is a fundamental aspect of our existence?

Part of what you're (probs) really getting at is true. It's arrogant to think we understand the universe and its laws in any meaningful sense when we haven't even left this relatively tiny planet. We have in a sense one reference point, and theoretical physicists are like young neets giving life advice.

>>8285298
Sorry, that's pure fiction.

>>8285915
Your first paragraph lessened my misanthropy desu.

Cheeky monkeys.

>>8285915
>We have in a sense one reference point, and theoretical physicists are like young neets giving life advice.

I'm stealing this.

Doesn't the simulation argument ultimately lead to "It's turtles all the way down"?

In an advanced enough simulation, wouldn't there ultimately arise a group of sims capable of creating their own simulations who are advanced enough to create their own simulations who are advanced enough to etc...