Who are the most interesting noir/detective writers? Pynchon

Dashiell Hammett is pretty much classic, even tho he's formulaic. James Ellroy is probably my favorite.

>>8248553
ellroy

destined to become /lit/core

Rafael Bernal - The Mongol Conspiracy

Auster/Ellroy/Lehane

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Michael Chabon wrote a pretty fun detective novel called "The Yiddish Policeman's Union". Chabon isn't a noir writer per se but he definitely pulled it off, and he's a great writer regardless.

>>8248592
Chandler is the formulaic one (he's great though), Hammett is pretty versatile in comparison.

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>>8248553
Why do they look the same?

>>8249035
Anon I think you have facial blindness

>>8249057
she looks like a female Lovecraft

>>8249084
Um, no she doesn't

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James M. Cain has never been surpassed.

"I loved her like a rabbit loved a rattlesnake."

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>>8248945
>Auster

We throw around the word "postmodern" a lot but it describes Auster's style towards noir or more properly hardboiled detective fiction in the New York Trilogy. City of Glass and Ghosts follow characters who are trapped in stories and attempting to use the hardboiled device to find answers. So it's a more a parody of hardboiled fiction that gradually transforms into postmodern lit than a proper hardboiled novel.

You should read The Maltese Falcon by Dashiell Hammet (super fun to read) and The Big Sleep by Raymond Chandler (as literary as the genre gets) to get an idea of the forms he's critquing.

George Pelecanos

>>8249147
lol those are literally the two most common noir novels ever written. I've read everything Dashiell Hammet has ever writen and a sizeable chunk of Chandler though I don't enjoy him as much

>>8248553
Jonathan Lethem's Gun, With Occasional Music and Motherless Brooklyn might be worth checking out. Robert Coover's Noir too.

I liked True Confessions by John Gregory Dunne

James Crumley had a few good ones, The Last Good Kiss and Dancing Bear

>fucking leaving out Doyle for this long

>>8250180
That's not what OP is looking for

>>8248945
Lehane is actually good? I thought he might be...

>>8248553
No love for Ross Macdonald?

The Burnt Orange Heresy by Charles Willeford was pretty interesting. Artsy for the genre.

>>8249035
Ironically he would have wanted to gas her