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>>>Now, Faustus, ask what thou wilt. >First will

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>>>Now, Faustus, ask what thou wilt.

>First will I question with thee about hell.
>Tell me, where is the place that men call hell?

>>>Under the heavens.

>Ay, but whereabout?

>>>Within the bowels of these elements,
>>>Where we are tortur'd and remain for ever:
>>>Hell hath no limits, nor is circumscrib'd
>>>In one self place; for where we are is hell,
>>>And where hell is, there must we ever be:
>>>And, to conclude, when all the world dissolves,
>>>And every creature shall be purified,
>>>All places shall be hell that are not heaven.
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Hell wasn't mentioned in the Bible until it came to the West via Asia. Before then it was just Sheol, which was like Hades and certainly not a place of fire nor torment. Just a place where the dead went to chill.

I guess ideas can be tracked and discounted.
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It's hysterical that Faustus learns how much Mephistopheles despairs over hell and STILL sells his soul. What a douche.

FAUSTIAN POWER RANKINGS:
Marlowe > Mann > Goethe > Bulgakov

Not to say Bulgakov's is bad; they're all brilliant.
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>>8068456
Why don't we keep that one? It sounds much more pleasant.
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>>8068466
You can't control and influence people with a place to chill. Hell and the Devil are boogiemen adults started believing.
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>>8068466
It's more pleasant, sure. But it isn't great. It's like sitting in a waiting room for eternity while your Christian friends experience overwhelming love forever.

Sounds like shit
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>>8068456

implying the ancient greeks (leaving aside their philosophers) despite their afterlife was a field of asphodels where the shadows of dead hanged around didn't have concepts similar to the paradise and the hell as well; tartar as a very unpleasant place and isles of the blessed as a kind of paradise are already mentioned by hesiod, homer also mentions in odyssey how some of the shadows in hades are specifically tortured for their sins

jews likely had a similar conception of different regions of sheol with vastly different conditions, see the lazarus parable (luke 16:19-31)
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>>8068508
I don't even know why you're mentioning Biblical texts after Asian influence of Hell had reached the Middle East, as that doesn't mean anything.

Try again?
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>>8068463
Goethe > Pessoa > Marlowe Text A > Pushkin > POWER GAP > Bulgakov > Mann > Marlowe Text B
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