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>spend 10 years avoiding Wallace because I think he's

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>spend 10 years avoiding Wallace because I think he's some final boss of literature
>decide to read up on him this week on a whim
>he was a literal meme retard
>Infinite Jest was B+ at best, same shit done by a dozen other guys in the 20th century except they actually worked out their ideas instead of just being a trendy celebrity with them
>Brief Interviews is exact same thing, just read Barthelme and ten other guys instead
>only a trendy celebrity because horrendous parody-of-themselves-tier writers like Barth, Pynchon, Vonnegut, Heller, and Franzen greased the wheels for him to be famous
>would have been nobody if (also a shit hack totally derivative of DeLillo fuckup moron) Franzen hadn't launched him to fame while at the peak of his own fame
>these famous New Sinceritiers didn't even understand him, even HE thought they didn't understand him
>unpleasant as fuck, just a weird dude who acquired celebrity status and then killed himself
>got mad at people constantly for not understanding his "project", kept getting memed at interviews all the time
>admittedly even he, himself, didn't understand depression and addiction
>every coverage of his """""""""ideas"""""""" is 90% composed of WASN'T HE QUIRKY???
>SO QUIRKY!!!!
>surrounded by yes-man morons (opinionless voids) everywhere
>respectable publishers at the time and Zadie Smith sucking his dick all the time
>even though no one understood him and only because of his """"""ECCENTRIC""""""" personality they'd scribble down "His ideas come to us as if by revelation. He is a divine god and I want to suck his cock."
>literally a meme
>literally a retard
>just the shitty Dos Passos of a bygone generation

Alright, no more joking around. DFW fanboy people are fucking morons. Joyce, Pynchon, John Green, I kept forgiving and forgiving and forgiving you people for worshiping actual autistic children like these fucks, thinking Suicide Boy was going to be some top secret American suicide like Full Metal Jacket. And it's just more shit. You are actually all morons.

This isn't banter. If you are a DFW fanboy, or a fan of any bandana-wearing cuck, YOU are a MORON
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i wonder what it's like to be so mad that you type out a whole bunch of quirky nonsense in green quotes
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Agree in full except for the inditement of Pynchon and Joyce, who are both not only excellent but certified by the fact that they are basically worshiped by academics.

DFW is autistic
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>>8051553
this

OP is right about almost everything.
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>>8051545
That is one rare dfw
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>>8051545
>spend 10 years avoiding Wallace
If you're older than 25 I'm inexpressibly disappointed in you.
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>>8051545

why do you spend your time posting this meme

why
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Kafka
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>>8051600
Gotta keep the memeory alive
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>>8051563
>>8051553

you guys are too dumb for Infinite Jest, and probably with a short attention span. Don't blame the book.
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>>8051545
>>8051638
>all these rare Wallaces
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>>8051653
>muh intellect
You're a fool
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This rant is refreshingly genuine and original
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I was never particularly impressed by DFW's distinctively plodding, hyper self-aware, neurotic ramblings that pass for fiction.

He had some clever things to say, but they are fogged up by his totally self-absorbed, utterly vacuous personality and cynicism which swallows up and infects every word he writes.

He had considerable grasp of the modes of consciousness in his writing and depicting the outer symbolic shell of thought processes, but all of these talents are lost on just utter dud of a personality. A sort of whisp of flatulance in human form.
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>>8051665
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>>8051545

there's no way you finished infinite jest. you've missed the point entirely.
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>>8051692
Holy shit he was actually CUTE at one point?
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>>8051682
The thing I like about him is that he is clearly aware of the personality defects that you are discussing and the fact that they warp his writing. It creates a strange recursive process where he becomes self-conscious of his self-consciousness ad infinitum. That doesn't make him a good writer but it makes him a good meme.
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>>8051699
>audience pussy
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>>8051708
>what should I do with my HANDS
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>>8051708
is that a brown bag in his pants?
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>>8051705
Right. But that kind of museum glass oddity isn't the mark of greatness. It's just the mark of a side-show, a one-off curiosity that doesn't stick with you after you consume it.

That's what I got from his writing. Passing stimulation but nothing to take home. It didn't leave me feeling satisfied or touched my magic like some truly electric writing does (eg Rimbaud or Faulkner).
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>>8051718
hes gonna need it for the girl on the right
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>>8051720
Which is why to me pic related is a better writer. Can actually show real honest emotion and sentimentality
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>>8051665
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>>8051757
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>>8051736

you sound like a YA reader
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>>8051545

>Bandana wearing cuck

Strong closing argument lad. So you still haven't even read his book, yet you spent hours of your life reading, writing and thinking of him? Sounds like a weird obsession and jealousy you have over a dead man, son.
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How are there this many people replying seriously when the thread about Derrida that op ripped the pasta from is STILL UP RIGHT NOW?
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>>8051545
>getting this mad about what other people read

also
>10 years avoiding Wallace
who the fuck actively thinks about "no I will not read that" for 10 straight years

get it together OP
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>>8051692
What book was that off of? The Broom of the System?
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>>8051729
Ayyyy
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>>8052128
Yup
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>>8051653
Some retard pours way too much of himself into a book? You call it what you will, to me, it's evidence of a lack of boundaries.

Anyways, I'm frequently annoyed at how long books are and it rarely affects my opinions of them
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>>8051545
Wow. I really like his look in this pic.
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>>8052039
That wasn't the first one either
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>>8051545
Their is a reason why we call shitposting 'cancer'.
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i like this meme
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>>8052147
This
How selfish and obsessed for attention do you have to be to write a 1K pg book that you need to read twice to get the whole story?
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>>8051553

Actually, Joyce was most definitely autistic in the best way possible.
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So is Infinite Jest actually worth reading? I've never bothered because it looks like a mountain of postmodern vomit, but it seems to be very popular on this board
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>>8051729
fucking kek
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>>8052547
John Green really, really likes it.
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>>8052531
fucking alpha m8
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>>8052531
me on the left
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>>8052539
Me on the left.
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>>8052539
>thomas pynchon is a gay pedophile
called it on day one
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>>8052654
Day one of what? Your life?
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>>8052654
>God is a shitposter
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>>8052654
that's his wife's son
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>>8051553
>basically worshiped by academics
>a good thing
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> doesn't know the definition of "literally".

I am more stupid now after reading your post.
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>>8052672
upvote ;)
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>>8051708
P.G.O.A.T. On the left
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>>8052672
You're literally retarded
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>Infinite Jest was B+ at best, same shit done by a dozen other guys in the 20th century except they actually worked out their ideas instead of just being a trendy celebrity with them

Lemme guess, you don't want to name them here because it will undermine your argument? Fuck off idiot.
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>>8053500
Nuh uh. No, YOU fuck off. Idiot. Haha.
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Yeah, I actually read the whole thing because I had to. I was entering a prestigious PhD program and focusing on Wallace because I loved Broom of the System, Oblivion, and Pale King. To my shame, though, I'd never read Infinite Jest. I'd never even tried, as hard as that was to admit. It was this huge blind spot and area of vulnerability for me. Whenever it'd come up with my colleagues I'd just smile and nod, smile and nod, hoping they wouldn't ask me anything specific about it. "The sincerity of it," somebody would say, and I'd say, "Oh God, yes, it's like Bernie Sanders." Finally, though, I had to dive into it, and let me tell you it was tough going. Stephen J. Burn’s guide helped a lot. Reading it out loud helped. I listened to other people read it, read online commentaries. Eventually it started to make some sort of sense. It was like I was learning to read for the first time again, and in a way this was enjoyable. I got better at reading the book. Soon I was reading entire paragraphs without trouble, getting the puns, laughing at the jokes. I could sort of follow the story, it was like a blurry picture resolving into clarity, or like I was drunk and I was sobering up, I could actually understand it. As I became more and more adept at reading Infinite Jest, I began putting myself to the test, initiating conversations with my colleagues about it, but specific passages this time, specific parts of the book. You can probably guess what happened. After a number of these conversations it became blindingly obvious that I understood the book a lot better than they did, they who I thought were the experts. It eventually became sort of embarrassing for them and I stopped trying to talk about it. And at the end of the day I would pack my things, catch the bus home, and settle into my apartment to read Infinite Jest. It had surpassed all of Wallace's other works in my estimation. Pale King, the book months earlier I would've named as my favorite of all time, the best book ever written, was now #2 to the Jest. So majestic, so ambitious, so wide-ranging, erudite, glorious, incredible was it that I couldn't believe that it was the work of one man. Best of all, the heart of it isn't complicated at all. What did I get from the Jest, what are its lessons? First of all, be yourself. Second of all, put one foot in front of the other. And lastly, just do it for crying out loud, time's a wastin’!
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>>8053667
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>>8052665
>green text
>some more green text

do i win at 4chan now?
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>>8054719
i smell roast beef
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>>8053667
i like this. i like this a lot. im glad this meme is happening
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>all these people not realising this is a pasta
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>>8052039
It's from a Wittgenstein thread that was up a few days ago.
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and i thought /lit was meme free board...
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>>8055055
you must be pretty dumb tbqh
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>>8052531
>tfw no qt beret gf
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>>8051545
>I don't like something people like and I have to tell them how retarded they are!
I enjoy reading his books. The fact that it enrages you puzzles me.
Is it because you think you write better then him but no one gives a shit about your prose?
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>>8051545
If you didn't know he was literally Vonnegutter tier then I don't know what to tell you. Joyce is the highest possibility of this mindset we have to move away from these authors.
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