What's your opinion on The Last Psychiatrist? On that note,

It's garbage. Masturbatory bullshit for pseudointellectual 18 year olds who want to feel really intelligent because they get inundated with factoids and charts that are completely divorced from context.

He used to have some interesting stuff but his blog has definitely taken a huge nosedive. It's not much more than drivel now.

>>7914527
Butthurt narcissist detected.

>>7914613
>butthurt narcissist

funny you say that cause that's exactly what TLP is

>If you're watching it, it's for you

What did he mean by this?

Blogs suck

http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.ca/2009/01/gentle-introduction-to-unqualified.html

This is pretty obviously the most interesting blog on the Internet. The hyper-reactionary Californian tech Jew Curtis Yarvin. I don't know of any other blogs that spawned an entire political movement in the past 10 years.

>>7914660
That's not interesting.

>>7914667
Oh but it really is. The ten thousandth reiteration of Western Progressivism might have a few vaguely interesting ideas, but it can't really compete with the wholesale abandonment of the tradition for sheer intellectual novelty.

He's great, I just wish that book on porn would get published one of these days

>>7914673
What novelty?

>>7914684
To be entirely fair it's not exactly novelty. It's just Victorian Reaction along the lines of Carlyle, Maine, Froude, etc. which he constantly excerpts. He does translate it admirably into the present though.

The novelty stems from the fact that in my 10 000 hours of public education I had never once read a philosophical defense of slavery. You probably aren't interested in a philosophical defense of slavery but you have to admit it is novel for the modern thinker.

Is he dead?

>>7914702
http://hotelconcierge.tumblr.com/

>>7914692
So it's interesting because it's taking old ideas that no one cares about any more and updating them for modern times? You might as well write a modern philosophical defense of alchemy or phrenology if that's where you're going with this.

>>7914707
I doubt that's him.

>>7914713
It is slightly different in that alchemy and phrenology are scientific concepts which have been pretty much disproven, at least in their historical forms, whereas political thought is rather more arbitrary.

But people do actually care about these ideas, just not Westerners. The Saudi Family, Vladimir Putin and his merry band of oligarchs, Xi Jinping and the party, Benjamin Netanyahu, etc. All the people not directly under American military control, in other words.

>>7914725
Quite the intellectual heavyweights you've listed there.

>>7914734
>implying putin and xi jinping and the controlling members of the saudi royal family arent super intelligent

>>7914739
Intelligence isn't intellectualism.

>>7914734
Well the only countries on Earth that have avoided American hegemony are at least worth examining, I'm sure you would agree.

>>7914747
Yes, and that's being done quite thoroughly by academics, as opposed to pseudo-intellectual bloggers.

>>7914751
Academics under the direct control of the American hegemony. I mean for fuck's sakes Noam Chomsky has been blacklisted from certain events and he's essentially a priest of American Progressivism that simply looked a little too closely at history.

Why would we care what American or European academics have to say about Putin or Xinping, why not listen to Russians or Chinese?

>>7914759
Chomsky is a linguist, not a political thinker.

>>7914759
>Xinping
Jinping*

>>7914759
you linked a "californian tech jew"

why should we care what he has to say about russia or china

>>7914764
>Chomsky is not a political thinker
This is a truly impressive level of delusion, Chomsky has been relevant on the political scene since the Vietnam war. He is an essential figure in the last half century of Progressive thought.

>>7914773
Maybe to undergrads.

>>7914766
Primarily because it's interesting and transgressive, but in general it can be illuminating to pay attention to the Ashkenazi, who are an entire standard deviation of IQ higher than the general population on average, with a correspondingly higher amount of geniuses, Chomsky himself included. The Jews also have a rich cultural tradition, stretching back some 3000 years, of questioning the basic tenets of society, religion, philosophy, etc.

>>7914779
>to undergrads
To liberal voters in other words, to the cultural foundations of our society, to the future editors of the New York Times, to the opinion-makers and arbiters of acceptability.

>>7914660
from what I can gather, Neoreaction aims to build a system in which people with autism spectrum disorders rule over normies with an autocratic iron fist. sounds cool

>>7914797
Correct. Studying him is about as important as studying any other aspect or element of pop culture. He is not a political thinker or an "essential figure in the last half century of Progressive thought", however.

>>7914804
People who identify as neo-reactionary are essentially all ridiculous, but in the kind of diluted form of the 'alt-right' or whatever they're calling it, it is making an impact on society. Donald Trump's success is fueled in part by this contingent of ex-Leftists and ex-libertarians.

>>7914813
Not really. They're largely on the periphery of the Trump movement.

>>7914660
2026: Peter Thiel Reigns as God-King of South Pacific Floating Seastead Metropolis. His most serene highness amuses himself by creating biotech abominations and getting his ass drilled by bionically enhanced Brazilian Gigolos. Mencius Moldbug serves as Evil Chancellor/Court Autist.

>>7914812
What do you think Progressive thought is, apart from the totality of beliefs held by people who identify as Progressive? Among these beliefs are many influenced by Chomsky. You seem to have a problem with his legitimacy as an intellectual, which is exactly the intended consequence of his being blacklisted by many institutions for questioning things a little bit too much.

>>7914821
>in part
They are definitely a part. Reddit has an entire very popular subcategory dedicated to Donald Trump, and they are definitely not middle aged working class white men, which is what his supporters have been pinned as.

>>7914827
A very tiny part. Most of the people on /r/the_donald read Breitbart, not obscure blogs like the one you posted

>>7914813
Neo-reaction is disturbingly widespread among the silicon valley elites. The logical conclusion to Right-'Libertarian' ideal is the Randian CEO as god-king. A superior being entitled to wield absolute power over the proles. Anarcho-capitalists like Hans Herman Hope accept neo-feudalism as the logical and desirable conclusion to 'libertarian' thought. This ideas are naturally appealing to the modern day NEET aristocrats who believe they are being held down by the peasantry, as well as the capitalists and SV-techlords who are merely a slightly better-adjusted of your garden variety fedora tipper.

>>7914842
Most Leftists don't read Deleuze or Foucault, but they are still their intellectual descendants. That blog had an actual impact on the internet, at the very least. The term neo-reaction was literally created as a pejorative to describe it and its author.

But I agree that rags like Breitbart and Huffington Post are the main sources of propaganda. Those two were actually made by the same people, funnily enough, or at least Breitbart was associated with Arianna Huffington when they were created.

>>7914854
Exactly. Moldbug himself is literally a silicon valley ex-libertarian, or at least a kind of failed version of one.

I think though that among the neoreactionary population the pretension to aristocracy is less prevalent than feelings of anti-Leftism. The higher you go in the chain of command the more references to English Kings you see but among the masses who follow these ideas the main theme is hatred of progressivism and progressives.

>>7914856
>Most Leftists don't read Deleuze or Foucault, but they are still their intellectual descendants.
Not really. They're mainly still the descendants of Enlightenment thinkers like Rousseau and the American Founding Fathers, with maybe a small handful of Marxists on the side.

>>7914878
Same tradition. The distance between Marx and Smith occupies about a radian in the possible horizon of economic theory. Foucault and Deleuze have definitely had enough time to trickle down(lel) through the academic ranks to the undergrads.

>>7914884
What ideas of Deleuze and Foucault can you convincingly argue influenced the opinions and beliefs of the average progressive voter?

>>7914878
Neo-reactionaries are pretty much the descendants of Rand, Mises, and the romanticised Jeffersonian yeoman farmer ideal. But they also got this whole weird Tolkien+Carlyle LARP going on which tends to muddle things. They also like to overstate their influence. the average altright skinhead, if he even knows about them at all, probably sees them as nothing more than a bunch of kikes and degenerates. The NRxers, on the other side, at best think of the alt-right as potential useful idiots, and at worst as just another collectivist threat.

http://www.xenosystems.net/what-is-the-alt-right/

>>7914912
I don't mean influenced them to be Democrat or Republican, you're usually 'born' as one of those, due to who your parents are. The underlying worldview of the Progressive(and also the Conservative, though with lag) has been influenced. Foucault on the existential inhumanity of modern prisons(clamor for Norwegian rehabilitation systems), on the history of madness(note the present trend towards calling sanity 'neurotypical'), on the 'overlaid grids of science/thought' (the modern conceptions of 'Western science' and the primacy of political or social doctrine over scientific results). Deleuze I'm less familiar with but I definitely see shades of his schizophrenic capitalism in the more educated Liberals, especially those who are interested in things like basic universal income.

>>7914632
so what? it's not like he even denies it

>>7914928
That sounds like a strained comparison. Most of those more likely come out of standard liberal ideals of equality and humaneness rather than Foucault or Deleuze themselves (whose ideas are likely to a large degree a product of same)

>>7914938
>Most of those more likely come out of standard liberal ideals of equality and humaneness rather than Foucault or Deleuze themselves (whose ideas are likely to a large degree a product of same)
I concede that they could be both effects of the same cause, as you say. The Foucaults would at least serve to reinforce the ideas in academia though, lending more authority to people who come across them.

>>7914660
lmao you cannot be serious that guy is a complete idiot who masks his lack of knowledge about literally everything with an atrocious, overwrought prose style

>>7914521
I often disagree with TLP but TLP at least makes an attempt to put together some interesting and coherent ideas that might make sense to someone who doesn't already accept his worldview wholesale.

>>7914938
wasn't Foucault a self-described anti-humanist with a hard-on for the Islamic Revolution? Neo-reactionaries have a bad habit of painting the whole history of human thought as a battle between two eternal forces: Progress (those who disagree with them) and Reaction (those assumed to agree with them). That makes them blind to the fact their ideology is actually an anachronistic jumble of misappropriated concepts that treats Carlyle, Mises, Tolkien, and Walter Scott as though they were the same thing

>>7916625
Islamic Revolution does not seem to concern the Progressives very much, they either treat of its possibility with mockery or they imply that it would be better than Western hegemony.

Neo-reaction is pretty much just anti-democracy as far as I can tell, which is from reading only Moldbug, so I don't know about the others in the movement.

Back when I was reading TLP I was fascinated by his posts because I didn't really know many people like he was describing. I was about eighteen at the time, just graduating high school, and reading about that level of superficiality and self-deception in people was novel.

Now that I'm older, I do actually know more people like what he describes. It still feels alien to me, though.

>>7914725
I think the NRx (even if it's bullshit) is interesting insofar as it's an example of actually independent discourse, but to say that its influence, particularly Moldbug's version, extends beyond the the US power base is silly. Also the idea that Saudi and Israel are outside the US power base is retarded, they are the US's main proxies in the region. That leaves the Chinese government, which is run by a peculiar interpretation of Marxism (perhaps might have some similarities with the right wing Marxists in NRx like Land, but it's still something distinctly different), and Russia. Russia might fit in with Dugin's brand, but that brand too is distinct from NRx Atlanticist discourse, to borrow his terminology.

>>7916088
>someone who doesn't already accept his worldview wholesale

You mean someone like yourself? Your comment is comical.

http://unenumerated.blogspot.com

>>7914739

Putin and Xi are probably very intelligent but the Saudis have run their kingdom into the ground and if it weren't for huge amounts of American support and aid they would have collapsed long ago. Even with all that aid they are approaching collapse very fast.

>>7917622
What? The point I'm trying to make is that TLP is readable, comprehensible, and informative to someone who doesn't already accept a series of bizarre proclamations about "the cathedral" and "the modern caste system" and Von Mises or whatever bullshit Moldbug is obsessed with.

>>7917588
It's not that neoreaction is causing any of these things, only that it aligns ideologically with some of them in some ways. And yes Russia and China are the only two real independent states on Earth but the Saudis and Israel do exhibit a kind of independence, which is best gauged by the fact that the 'international community' hates both of them with a passion. Iran is arguably another.

>>7918890
Moldbug is not hard to read at all, unless you don't like long excerpts of Victorian history. If you compare the jargon in neoreaction to say, what you're expected to learn to understand anything in the humanities today, there is comparatively very little.

Who would win in a fight between Curtis Yarvin and Eliezer Yudkowsky?

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/

if you don't mind scrolling past the white nationalist stuff

Some interesting blogs you guys have posted so far in this thread, but none of them can quite compare to orgyofthewill.net

>no one has posted ribbonfarm

Start with http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/10/07/the-gervais-principle-or-the-office-according-to-the-office/
The most accessible

>>7917080
Thanks for the blog post. (You're clearly the kind of person (s)he describes)

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>>7919091
>PUA White Nationalist

>>7914521
>What's your opinion on The Last Psychiatrist?
>narcissism goes in all fields

if everyone is a schizoid, no-one is a schizoid

>>7919162
White nationalists are just as horny as anyone

>>7919164
Seems like shaky logic. Everyone being a schizoid doesn't mean that it isn't a problem. It's still real, and qualitatively different than everybody not being one.

>>7919181
schizoid is a relative term, if the normalcy its relative to ceases to exist, schizoid is the new normal

What's the difference between schizoid and autism

>>7919182
How is it relative? The only sense in which it could be relative is if everybody is schizoid to some degree, which is the entire point. If that isn't true then some people aren't schizoid. These are not equivalent pictures of reality.

>>7918959
It's not that he's hard to read on a sentence level, it's that he tosses off little bits of bullshit that make you scream if you have any knowledge or understanding of the real world. He's so off in his own bubble that he can't communicate anything to anyone outside it.

Like, look at this shit. This is the guy you take seriously: http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2007/05/what-if-theres-no-such-thing-as-chaotic.html

>>7919313
This guy sucks at writing.

>>7914653
That you are in charge of your life, whether you know it or not, and that you are placing yourself in positions where some things will be available to you and some won't. You should not confuse the world as it appears to you for the world, because how it appears to you may (is) be governed by your prejudices.

>>7914707
Not him. Even when he would drop hints in some of the more recent articles that he might be a woman to throw people off his trail, his "voice" and his ideas and approach were still unified. Hotel Concierge is way too tryhard, same with Blond Beast.

>>7919792
Neither Blond Beast nor Hotel Concierge are TLP. They're pale imitators, both of the Less Wrong stripe. But as novel and interesting as Alone was, he was probably a pale imitator of somebody else.

>>7914713
tbqhwy we've learned to manipulate elements to a point beyond the imagination of alchemists, chemistry/phsyics could be considered an updated version of old ideas. There's nothing wrong with using what we've learned in the past. Not the other anon, just showing you how retarded is your argument anonsama.

>>7920714
Has TLP got any other work since he stopped on the original blog?

>>7914521
You're better off reading the works that inspired him. Dostoevsky, Freud, Foucault, and so on. He rambles too much to really teach you anything.

contravex.com
trilema.com

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/lit/ has a discord on TLP, if you are interested. Fairly active, we read an article a day and a short story every weekend: https://discord.gg/0vAvAjyKAiODF3Cx

>>7923488
>chiller

>>7919792
Maybe she's trans*

>>7914713
>You might as well write a modern philosophical defense of alchemy or phrenology

So Feyerabend? Yes, It's interesting. And reading it reminds you of the intellectual robustness of the liberal tradition.