About the only thing that turns me on is imagining dressing up

>>8848446
You are gay.

>>8848446
You are the quintessential AGP.

>>8848446
Fucking AGPs I swear on me mum.

>>8848457
You can be a natal male, attracted to men, and AGP. HSTS are just in denial about it.

>>8848446
>I still want to one day have a gf.

Why does it matter? Life is chance, I wanted my first to be a girl but soon I accepted anyone can like me. It just so happens to more guys than girls... heh.

>>8848464
OP is in denial about being gay and GNC. Sexuality is connected to gender expression. I consider myself a man but I don't feel "Sexy" unless I look pretty, andro/fem enough.

>>8848464
Please stop forcing this dumb meme. You're not an HSTS.

>>8848494
blanchard himself wrote that a significant part of "hsts" experience cross-gender arousal
but your definition of hsts is probably entirely your own, as usual

>>8848522
Pics or it didn't happen.

>>8848534
couldn't find the thing i was looking for but
http://juliaserano.blogspot.fi/2015/07/the-real-autogynephilia-deniers.html?m=1
>--Sexuality of male-to-female transsexuals (by Veale et al., 2008)
This was the first study testing autogynephilia theory that was conducted on a non-clinical population of trans women, as well as the first that actually used a control group of non-transsexual women. Their results contradict Blanchard's theory in a number of ways, most notably in that their "autogynephilic" and "nonautogynephilic" groups did not segregate along lines of sexual orientation (which had been a foundational premise of Blanchard's theory) and that many of their non-transsexual female controls were "autogynephilic" (demonstrating that FEFs are not a transgender-specific phenomenon).

>>8848583
Veale isn't Blanchard.

>>8848608
i know but my point was that whatever definition of hsts you're using, headcanon or not, it's not impossible for them to also be "AGP" to a degree

>>8848464
That's pseduo-bisexuality, not HSTS.

>>8848630
My point is you were claiming your headcanon was word of god.

>>8848608
http://archive.loveisover.me/lgbt/thread/8845060/#8847774
not the best source but eh
>>8848640
as always, if your definition of hsts is "has no AGP feelings" you could just say it

>>8848660
so you consider blanchard to be the only legit source on trans theory?
and everybody else's results are invalid?
right, it's not like you're grasping at straws to defend your version of the theory (and so your agenda)

>>8848494
I never claimed to be. I just said HSTS are capable of experiencing AGP.

>>8848692
What agenda?

>>8848583

Self-reported sexual identities not based on actual sexual practices let alone objective arousal measurements of the penis are often misleading.

>>8848740
what's your detailed definition of "HSTS"?

>>8848745
do you think blanchard did it right?

>>8848446
man, I dont know about you
Ive had couple of great GFs and love yet ultimately I still couldn't get over the AGP and wanting to be a woman sexually myself and envying women.
Never had anything with men except repressed crush on my friend and some silly crap online despite wanting it, but Im way to homophobic due to upbringing and my social environment, so the idea of getting feminized and fucked was only a shameful fantasy.
To make the matter worser now Im not really interested in women as much as I want to be one. I've had a long time pseudo-GF who wanted a serious relationship and more but I cant be a man for her.
Ultimately it all makes my gravely unhappy.

>>8848446
I'll be your gf but you've gotta do the fucking.

>>8848865
Man up and find a man to make a woman of you.

>>8848756
I don't think we likely have any good data yet because good data rests on using things like blinding, control groups, and objective measures of sex and sexuality. I still think there undeniably are differences between heterosexual and homosexual transgender people and how they experience femininity.

>>8848750

Gay guys who failed at male socialization and think they have a better shot at being perceived as female since they are extremely feminine homosexuals to begin with. They don't realize campy ≠female and they are generally self-hating about being gay to the point of dating closeted gay men who claim to be straight who agree to refer to them as straight women for the sake of larp.

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>>8848865
>>8848446
It's fine, I'm sure you can find a gf who is willing to accept and indulge an AGP, right?
...right?

>>8849051
Possible for sure, since I know people who are trans of just fetishists/crossdressers and have female partners and Ive personally seen that happen.
Are you fem enough to interest such women and will she be enough for you is another question

>>884874
"Objective arousal measurements" of the penis are just as often misleading as well, phallometry is only "somwehat" accurate even on groups its intended for (cis male sex offenders, accuracy is roughly 34%) , and it is highly unlikely it would have any efficacy on a post HRT trans woman, and even probably doubtful in a pre-HRT trans woman.

>>8848446
why the fuck are you posting slug

>>8849278
yeah I dont get any hard to any porn unless you rub my nips and whisper dirty things into my ear

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>>8848446

I'll just leave this here

>>8849571
I'm AGP and wasn't abused.

tfw i'm grouped in with you agp freaks
:(

>>8849600

aw, don't feel bad hon :3 we all fly that rainbow flag proud, gurl YAAAS

OP here,

I don't know what blanchardianism means. But I'm looking for advice on this subject and haven't got it so far.

>>8850648
Meanst that you are trans

>>8850648
Please for the love of god don't take the AGP/Blanchard posters seriously. Most importantly take care of yourself before diving into something that no one except you and a qualified therapist can sort out. You need to seek help for this issue from a professional and not listen to pseudoscience bullshit on 4chan. This entire community is full of false-flaggers and trolls and I would recommend looking for support elsewhere like asktg. As always the prevailing wisdom is to take everything and anything you hear on this board with a grain of salt.

>>8851051
muh profeshinuls

idk what the issue is. you know what you like and what you want; why not just do it? you don't have to identify as a woman to wear femme clothes. do whatever you want. find someone who's nice and who's into that. you don't need to worry about where it will lead. if you like it, cool. if you don't like it, then find what you do like. if it winds up leading somewhere else with time, then go with it.

really just do whatever you want as long as it's consensual. what are you afraid of?

>>8848446
Congrats, you're autogynephilic and a bit kinky. It doesn't necessarily mean you're trans, it's just part of your sexual response. In any case, exploring your sexuality is a healthy thing to do.

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>>8851051
>going to asktg

>>8848446

Just sounds like a passing fetish. You have to decide whether you wanna try it to get it out of your system or just treat it as an abnormal fantasy. Indulging a fantasy for its own sake isnt always a good idea just because it sounds like fun.

I know from dealing with men who prefer women who want to experiment as 'the girl' that they feel horrible afterwards, which is why I try to talk them out of it, but they can be insistent since Im usually the only male they have been with and want to try everything sometimes.

So youre right, it can mess with your head rather you like it or not.

This is just sex. If you think it could disrupt your life and self image, then you need to accept it is just a sexual fantasy and not obsess on it. Straight men ruin their lives every day by acting on a fantasy with one women while being in a relationship with another.

I dont think you should forget priorities and make such a big deal out of sexual fantasy, whether you try it or not.

>>8853448
Only a repressor would have such faith in the establishment.

>>8853504
honestly, it's better than this place for advice
here you get
>cureanon telling you to stop fapping
>skullchan saying it won't matter because you'll never pass anyways due to E X P A N D E D P L A N E S
>a couple terfs here and there
>a bunch of people calling you AGP
>if you're lucky, maybe one or two people giving advice

>>8848745
>objective arousal measurements of the penis are often misleading

Thinking a penile lie detector is "objective". 4chan is basically negatumblr tbqh.

What does AGP stand for?

>>8853868
Accelerated Graphics Port

>>8853868

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blanchard%27s_transsexualism_typology#Autogynephilia

>>8853868
autogynephile people who are aroused by dressing as women

>>8853868
Aggressive Pedophile

>>8853568
asktg is a cesspit of pathetic hugboxing, magical thinking and outright lies from a bunch of delusional honeymoon period babytrans, I weep for anyone getting advice from there

>>8853568
>filtered opinions vs unfiltered
Anyone who picks the former deserves the former.