I need help from anons who have time to read my giant wall o

>>8840864
>but I don't see myself as a woman like all you guys do
"seeing yourself as a woman" is just a way of mentally responding to trans feelings. If you're still coming to terms with them or doubt you're trans or whatever then there's no reason you'd "see yourself as a woman" yet. There are other resons someone might not, like if they don't want to transition, don't think they can, or don't see trans women as women.

>and neither I have felt like I had dysphoria or anything, at least the way I have read online.
Your "getting worse and worse" and "feeling like I'm dying all the time" could well be dysphoria.

>but at around 12 I kinda started being jealous of some girls and their lives, also had dreams where I was a girl and a guy I kinda liked was my bf
The jealousy is dysphoria.

>discover tranny porn and other stuff like that and it becomes my shameful kink because I never thought boys could really look like girls before.
Trans girls often like traps and shemale porn, probably because they can identify with it. The fact that boys looking like girls was important to you is trans sign.

>Go back to my early teens escapism where I used to daydream about having a normal happy life but instead of being the normal schoolgirl I'm a normal woman working in my area. Think of some weird slice of life anime make believe dream.
Daydreaming of being a woman is a trans sign again.

The posting on /tttt/ a lot also shows you see something trans in yourself and relate to trans experiences.

Your nerdy/NEET life is very common for trans girls, although not a sign of being trans itself. But you perfectly fit the mold.

> read this board and other places pretty much 10h a day
> browing the tranny places on the internet all over again like /tttt/
Cis people don't typically question their gender for 10 hours a day, if ever at all. Are you questioning your gender or just reading for fun?

> I don't see myself as a woman like all you guys do and neither I have felt like I had dysphoria or anything
> jealous of some girls and their lives, also had dreams where I was a girl and a guy I kinda liked was my bf
> daydream about having a normal happy life but instead of being the normal schoolgirl I'm a normal woman working in my area. weird slice of life anime make believe dream
Sounds like dysphoria though. Don't let Caraposter meme you.

OP, if I said you werent trans and this meant you could not transition, would you be relieved or upset?

>>8841026
Not her but I'd be relived I shouldn't transition but wonder how I could be not trans.

>>8840916
>>8840954
Thanks for taking your time to read all my crazy stuff.
This is the first time I ever post something like that on the internet and I'm feeling like shit just by doing it. I'm super nervous here.

To answer you two I really don't know if what i feel is dysphoria I don't know if I'm legit trans I don't know about anything I really don't trust myself on anything. As you can see my self esteem is so shitty I keep doubting all my actions which is why I wanted someone else to tell me if I'm trans or not because I honestly don't know myself.
And I mean it, I don't know myself I don't trust myself I really hate myself.

>>8841026
I would be some kind of bittersweet feeling just like when I see a thread were anons talk about their fingers and I start comparing to mine and saying to myself something like "see? You're not trans you dumb iditiot what made you think you could ever be a girl?"

I think ultimately it would still be liberating I kinda long for being told I'm a man and I don't have to feel any of this shit anymore ever again. I just want it all to end.

>>8840864
Let's be real. This is /lgbt/, not your hugbox.

Nobody is actually transgender because it's not a real thing. You aren't "really trans" because nobody is. All that matters is whether you decide to transition.

Trannies either transition out of a fetish for being women or they do it because they want to get straight guy cock.

You're probably in the former group. Well, there's your question: am I happier pretending to be an unconvincing woman for the rest of my life or not? Will it fulfil me? If the answer's yes then you are as trans as any other tranny.

You probably won't pass by the way. Just bear that in mind. If that doesn't make a difference, good. You shouldn't put your self esteem on something outside our control.

>>8841054
You should probably read this thread >>8813015

>>8841054
>I really don't know if what i feel is dysphoria I don't know if I'm legit trans
There is no "legit trans" and there is no "yes you should/no you shouldn't transition".

If being male is upsetting for you, that's dysphoria. If you think you'd be better of transitioning, that means you should.

Transition is a decision you need to make for yourself, not something you may or may not qualify for or something anyone else can decide is right or wrong for you.

Whether you do or not, you have the same feelings as other trans girls and must deal with them in some one.

>>8841063
Anon I don't even check those egg threads anymore because they only make me more confused because I keep filling my bingo card in a matter of seconds.

But that doesn't mean I'm trans.
That's why I'm confused I don't know what to do.

>>8841055
I'm not asking for hugboxing it was more as in I'm asking for a third party to waste precious time of their lives reading my stupid greentext shitty life about my confusion so they tell me something that will make me stop being confused and feeling like shit because I'm useless and can't do anything by myself.

>>8841072

I'm saying that you don't need to be confused. You are exactly as much of a tranny as any other tranny. All the stuff they've been saying about your true identity is fake. It's something the community made up to throw normies off from realizing why they're doing it. Most trannies feel the same way you do. It's the same story, over and over again. That's called AGP.

The ONLY question that matters is: do you want to transition? Yes or no?

>>8841072
>Anon I don't even check those egg threads anymore because they only make me more confused because I keep filling my bingo card in a matter of seconds.
>But that doesnt mean I'm trans
Ahahahahahahahaha.

>>8841067
Thanks for replying, anon.
I got it, I guess the problem is me. I don't have the courage and confidence to even assure myself if I'm trans or not. I guess I have to fix that somehow even though I doubt I will.


>>8841082
>The ONLY question that matters is: do you want to transition? Yes or no?

I'm scared.
I hate how things are now but I don't think I could have the strength to change anything.

Sorry for being a stupid dead weight.

>>8841082
>The ONLY question that matters is: do you want to transition? Yes or no?
And will it solve her problems. Like you said, she needs to bear in mind her chances of passing, the fact she won't be the same as cis girls, the fact she'll need to take extra effort to present femininely (voice training, shaving) and the cost of medical transition. Just like she needs to bear in mind that if she doesn't transition, she'll still have to live with her feelings and the wish of being female.

Perhaps try hrt? Some say mental effects are great? I will do this btw, come to a point where it make sense.

>>8841089
>if I'm trans or not.
THERE IS NO TRANS.

Listen to this poster
>>8841055
>Nobody is actually transgender because it's not a real thing. You aren't "really trans" because nobody is.
>>8841082
>You are exactly as much of a tranny as any other tranny.

>>8841092
Right. Trannies need brutally realistic assessment of their chances of getting what they want out of it. It's not magic. Very few MtF trannies pass 100% of the time. But living in a liberal city probably doesn't hurt.

OP also needs to avoid falling into the magical thinking trap. None of this shit makes you female.

>>8841102
No contradiction. There's no magic essence of being a tranny. It's just whether you want to transition. That's all being a tranny really is.

Like... isn't that obvious?

>>8841116
I agree with you but OP still says "if I'm trans or not."

STOP FAPPING, START LIVING!

>>8841094
I don't think I should take HRT unless I'm sure I'm trans.
It feels wrong if I do it because I would just be hopping om some kind of /tttt/ bandwagon when there's people who are really trans and can't even transition themselves.

I'm confused and scared as fuck but also talking to you anons about it kinda gave me a bit of peace I won't lie. It feels like I'm taking a huge weight of my chest by telling you all about those shitty feels I have been having since I was a kid.

But at same time I feel like I only have those confusing feels because I had a shitty childhood with lots of abuse and I'm not legitimate trans.

>>8841102
>>8841109
>>8841116
>>8841120
I feel like I need to know what I am before I even consider gathering enough willpower to do anything about it. I didn't make this thread to ask if other people are legitimate or not but only if I am myself.

>>8841130
I don't like cureanon and I'm not that person.
I'm the sad lurker who decided to tell their childhood story in a shitty greentext form because I'm kinda having a breakdown right now and I'm crying because I hate where everything ended and how me and my life are right now.

I'm filled with frustration, regret and fear.
I think I should talk to my mom so I go to a psychiatrist and get a ton of stuff so I stop thinking about all this.

>>8841154
THERE IS NO LEGITIMATE.

YOU ARE AS TRANS AS ANYONE IS TRANS.

>>8841154
>Thinks they're not legitimate but stays away from egg threads where trans people joke about their past because it's TOO ACCURATE
How much clearer do we have to make it? Jesus christ senpai.

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>>8840864
As my grandfather always used to say:
When In Doubt; Don't"

In other words, If you're not sure whether or not to do something, then don't do it.

And you don't sound trans to me.
Trans isn't something you just wake up and discover one day.
It is something you live with your whole life.

>>8841201
What do you gain from tricking her into repression?

>>8841201
>Muh traditional trans narrative
>Muh "if you realize you're trans and didn't say it when you're 4 then you're not trutrans!" when OP's story indicates they struggled from a young age anyway

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>>8841171
>>8841183
I just don't know.
It feels like even if I transitioned I would never have a normal life, I doubt I could be good enough at anything to even pass too. have a complete lack of confidence in anything about myself because I really and I mean it I don't know myself.

>>8841201
>When In Doubt; Don't"
That's what I have been doing for the past 20 years?
If you read my giant wall of text from pastebin you will understand the issue and why I'm so confused, anon.

Like I have been fucked in the head since I was 7.

>And you don't sound trans to me.
>Trans isn't something you just wake up and discover one day.
This is more like the kind of answer I was looking for I feel like I need someone to analyze my story and just be direct and tell me I'm not and tell me to shut the fuck up and stop.

>It is something you live with your whole life.
Way to fuckup your advice now I'm confused again because like I said I typed a large part of my life in the pastebin thing...

pic is how I'm feeling right now reading all the replies. My stomach is killing me with all this stress.

Also are you brazilian?

>jealous of girls
Who isn't? They get to be soft and beautiful, wear all kinds of pretty clothes, and basically live a charmed life. Society spoils women because they are important, they have wombs. Which you will never have if you transition, and everyone will know it, because they will know your original birth sex by your bone structure. Society shits on men, because as a man your only value to anyone is in what you contribute. Sounds like you don't contribute much, hence you're shit on. Being a male sucks.
>depression
Take better care of yourself. Eat better, clean your environment, take some supplements. Avoid magical thinking, i.e. "I will just transition and take these pills, get these surgeries, then I will be a beautiful girl, finally I'll be free and everything will be right!" - WRONG.
Transition is a meme. Males can be feminine, wear feminine clothes, and do body modification to themselves to be more feminine. You will not be a girl (no vagina, no womb) and society will not see you as a girl (nice people will indulge you because they feel sorry for you). Your choice of romantic partners will be extremely limited, many people will not want anything to do with you romantically or platonically, you'll get shit on by randos often and you'll be fucking with your health. If you're realistic about what you are doing and what will happen, it is possible to live a good life as a feminized male, especially if you're a mentally strong person which it sounds like you're not. Besides the social stigma and health impact there is also the reality that going the trans route you will probably cuck yourself from ever having children which you may regret later. In short, don't do it. But if you must, be realistic.

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>>8841231
>"eheheh just be a feminine gay guy! boys can wear dresses!"
Spotted the GCer

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>>8841208
>tricking her into repression

I was just giving my opinion.
I don't have an agenda.
You must be projecting.

And if she really is trans, my comments aren't going to make a difference.
Not everyone who masturbates to anime is trans, you know.

>>8841226
>It feels like even if I transitioned I would never have a normal life, I doubt I could be good enough at anything to even pass too.
Good, you admit you're trans and it's just the pragmatic question of whether or not transition will help you.

>This is more like the kind of answer I was looking for I feel like I need someone to analyze my story and just be direct and tell me I'm not and tell me to shut the fuck up and stop.
If that's what you need then you shouldn't post your story anywhere there are honest trans people. You should only show it to people who either won't read it like that anon, who don't know what being trans is like, or who are dishonest. Because they are the only people who will tell you what you want to hear and it's not fair to trick people who will tell you the truth into telling it to you only for you to ignore them because the truth is the wrong answer.

>>8841231
>Society shits on men, because as a man your only value to anyone is in what you contribute. Sounds like you don't contribute much, hence you're shit on. Being a male sucks.
And what are you doing for the sake of equality?

>>8841259
I'm sorry anon, I didn't mean to trick anyone or anything.

I'm confused. I honestly am not ignore when anons tell I'm trans.
I really mean it I consider it a lot. Sometimes maybe more than I should. I'm happy and sad at same time when I hear it.
When some anon tells me I"m not it's a different feeling. It's like I'm being liberated by a huge pain that have been hurting me for a long time.

I'm a stupid person. My dad was right all along when he told me as a kid I wasn't good at anything.

I feel bad attentionwhoring and blogposting on 4chan. Maybe I should have made some kind of reddit post though I never really posted on reddit ever. I don't know. I just feel like you anons are honest and nice. None of you are afraid to say anything. I wish I could be that strong.

>>8841283
Don't feel bad and don't post on reddit.

Let me put it this way, imagine a magical machine that can tell with 100% certainty whether someone is true. You feed it all the necessary information, and it gives an answer, 100%.

What information do you think it would need to make a 100% certain diagnosis?

>None of you are afraid to say anything.
Sure we are sometimes.

>>8841297
>What information do you think it would need to make a 100% certain diagnosis?
I don't know.
That's why I tried to talk about the events that made a bigger impact during my childhood because I thought they could be useful for some anon who has real experience on this stuff and unlike the useless me they could do something good with it and give me an answer.

In short I'm kinda using you guys as this machine you said. Probably shitty of me but I actually trust you anons more than anyone since I will never tell my family about this.

The only person I was relatively close was my oldest sister and since she married and moved out years ago we haven't really kept contact that much.
Sometimes she comes visit and say hello to me but since I never really talk to anyone or leave the room she grew distant to me.

Sometimes I feel a lot of regret because maybe I should have told her about these shitty feels and she would have told me to man up or something and I could have moved on instead of letting things snowball and turn into what I am now.

Honestly, it's not that complicated- everybody tries to make a big deal out of it, but it really isn't a complicated thing.
Imagine a world where, socially, men and women are 100% equal. Nobody has benefits over the other, anybody can wear what they want, etc etc. Would you still want to be a woman?
If so, bam, you're trans.

>>8840864
I read your wall of text and you seem totally trans to me. Your writing style seems girly too. It's a shame you're as old as you are and that you have a man bod.
HRT could help even if you stay in boymode and don't pass. Since you're in hikikomori mode the effect of HRT on your social life isn't an issue. If you don't care about fertility and if your family isn't going to be too big of a problem there doesn't seem to be any reason to not start HRT.

>>8841372
>inb4 BUT AM I LEGIT TRANS LIKE THE OTHER TRANS

>>8841319
Ok, a different question. How do you define "trans"? What exactly does it mean?

>maybe I should have told her about these shitty feels and she would have told me to man up or something and I could have moved on instead of letting things snowball and turn into what I am now.
Have you heard of all the trannies who manned up and then transitioned later anyway?

>>8841372
Yeah I think I would, anon.
But that kind of question and the "if you could press a button to be a girl right now would you press" feels like I'm not putting enough thought about something that's way more serious than just "do you wish you were born a woman" kinda deal.

Also after talking with you anon about all this I remembered two other things during my younger years that fill me wish shame and confusion.

One of them was my first kiss where I felt literally nothing and it was the one that started making me question if I was just a gay boy or something because even though she was gorgeous I didn't feel like anything while being kissed. (I was 14).
That was also my last kiss because like I typed on the big wall of text I kinda started distancing myself from everyone and the world due to all these confusing feels.

To this day I still am confused and sometimes I tell myself maybe I'm just gay and I should stop worrying about these "am I trans" feels.

>>8841381
>If you don't care about fertility
Could care less tbqh.
I already had to take care of two kids with my sister when growing up because she had a kid with some bad boy who ended up becoming a drug dealer and was killed years after.

Thank god my step dad didn't let her move with the guy and she stayed home. Now she's a normal non fucked up person and even married and has another kid.

>Ok, a different question. How do you define "trans"? What exactly does it mean?

I don't know, my definition of trans is kinda reading the experiences of so many anons when they talk about their lives and their struggle and a lot of times I don't think mine can be compared to theirs, specially on the dysphoria part where It feels like I don't suffer from it like anons do.

>>8841398
Being trans isn't serious, transitioning is.
You know why we ask these questions? It's because you don't put thought in them. You just give your gut instinct, and when it comes to who you are, that gut is correct.

>>8841416
No, define trans without relating it to other people?

After all, how do you know they're really trans?

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>>8841398
Here's the DSM V criteria for dysphoria.
How many of these apply?

>>8841416
>specially on the dysphoria part where It feels like I don't suffer from it like anons do.
Feeling bad about your body image and getting upset over being called a handsome man are classic dysphoria. Getting bullied for being perceived as being a fag is a sign that there's something different about you that everyone picked up on.

>>8841418
Not when you're mentally ill. If everyone mentally ill "listened to their guts" we'd see a lot more crime and suicide from them. Why do you trannies think you're any different?

>>8841464
Okay, I want you to read through my comment again, and understand how your comment fails to actually be a quality response.

>>8841455
>inb4 OP nitpicks "strong desire" before this thread hits 300+ posts of back and forth

>>8841418
I think the biggest issue here is kinda that, anon.
I don't know what my body is telling me or maybe I don't trust myself.
Maybe I need to learn to listen to it or something.

>>8841434
>No, define trans without relating it to other people?
I don't know, feels like they are someone who is trying to find and then be themselves even if they have to sacrifice a lot to do so.
Having that courage and strength alone already makes me consider the legitimacy on my part one of the reasons about all this confusion.

>>8841455
It feels like I'm checking more of those checkboxes than I should.

>>8841459
Yeah growing up was terrible. If I wasn't such a pussy and a dead weigth I would probably have killed myself in my teens. I see in the news all the time about kids who were bullied and go on shooting sprees when I was literally running for my life every day when the school was over for being the faggy kid...

I'm not going to lie I'm still as lost when I started the thread but talking to you anons about this was good I'm feeling a bit happier now.

>>8841464
Why do you think you understand us better than we understand ourselves, or even better than people who work with us all the time?

>>8841487
You're checking those boxes because they apply. Clinically speaking, you don't need to be depressed to have gender dysphoria.

>>8841487
you are trans and you should transition

>>8841487
>Yeah growing up was terrible
The bullying thing is a lot like what I went through. I'm now many years postop. Do you feel that your mannerisms are naturally feminine? In my case that's what people were picking up on, that and my lack of sexual interest in girls. I didn't have to learn feminine mannerisms when I transitioned because I already had them. Does that sound like it would be true for you?

>>8841487
>feels like they are someone who is trying to find and then be themselves even if they have to sacrifice a lot to do so.
You're just the same only you haven't made the sacrifices yet, only had the suffering.

>>8841498
I'm scared to even think about telling a doctor about all of this.
Sometimes I wish I would go to one that was kinda mean and give me a ton of drugs so I just stop thinking altogether about everything and just sit all day in a little corner.

As for the depression I guess the dysphoria (do I really have this? I'm still confused) is just one of the few factor. Sometimes it feels like I'm just someone using these feels as a form of escapism, like I said before that I'm just illegitimate.

>>8841516
I'm not sure, I think my maneirisms are more of an introvert beta. I usually see girls being more outgoing and confident.
The closest I guess I could be in terms of maneirisms is maybe some shut-in nerd ugly girl everyone picked at school but she wasn't feminine to begin with she was just another introvert.

So yeah I don't see myself as a feminine person or anything.
I don't feel I'm feminine or have feminine mannerisms though I have had quite the share of people asking if I was gay including my auntie trying to get me out of the closet by telling me stories of her imaginary best gay friend.
which by the way creeped the shit out of me to the point I even started acting manlier minutes before getting the fuck out of that place. Haven't visited them in like almost a year, grandma is kinda sick maybe I should see her again tho...

>>8841543
I wish It could all end.
I feel sick and I wanted peace, it hurts a lot.

Anons I just wanted to say one more thing.
Thanks a lot for replying to me and taking your time reading all that stuff.
I feel a lot better even though I haven't really changed much in terms of how I see myself or anything. Im still confused and all but it was really good.

I will take a break from 4chan again maybe this will help me clear my mind and focus a bit more. Maybe I will go out and even tell my mom or got to a psychiatrist or something.

OP out
byebye.

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There wasn't a single moment i couldn't identify myself with your story. I'm currently at the college part, studying IT which i don't really care about but "i'm so good at computers i should try it!"

I fear breaking down in the future like you did. I almost even ordered hormones. But i ask myself every day if that's the right thing and if i'm really trans.

I sincerely hope you find the answer and peace, OP. I'll be looking for it too.

>>8841578
>though I have had quite the share of people asking if I was gay
You're prolly like me - had tons of female mannerisms, didnt know it.

>>8841578
>I think my maneirisms are more of an introvert beta.
>I don't see myself as a feminine person or anything.
>I don't feel I'm feminine or have feminine mannerisms
Why do you think those mean anything?

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>>8841102
>>8841055

>there is no trans
>it's either a fetish or they want straight cock

Jesus christ OP please don't listen to this shit. Don't ask this kind of shit on 4chan. Go see a real therapist or something

If you want my honest opinion you sound trans to me but the only one who can be absolutely sure about it is you.

>>8841965
>reading what she wants to instead of what's written

>>8842007
and what about imagining yourself as a woman without getting off on it?

>>8842058
Still AGP, still trans.

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>>8840864
You're a girl you dumb fuck.
If you didn't waste literally 20 years of your god damn life asking yourself you're trans you would probably be a hot girl right now and happy.
Jesus why are you so fucking dumb.
I swear to god the government needs to track 90% of the trannies in the world and shove titty skittles on them because they are too autistic to do it themselves.

I'm fucking mad I need to find where you live and shove an entire bottle of spiro down your hon throat you stupid retarded girl.

>>8842180
>I swear to god the government needs to track 90% of the trannies in the world and shove titty skittles on them
this tbhon

>>8842180
I-I think I'm in love.

>>8842180
>I swear to god the government needs to track 90% of the trannies in the world and shove titty skittles on them

Pls run for office.

>>8842526
I'd vote for her

>>8842619
i'd fondle her conetits for her tbqhon

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>>8842180
>the government needs to track 90% of the trannies in the world
implying they're not

>>8842736
Alexa Jonesino pls.

>>8842736
How else do you think most of us end up working for the NSA? They only recruit from here and Tumblr.

>>8841082
>All the stuff they've been saying about your true identity is fake. It's something the community made up to throw normies off from realizing why they're doing it.
Normies? More like eggs.

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>>8840864
>tfw OP had a hard life.
>tfw she keeps trying to repress from all the back and forth she did in this thread.
>tfw OP left and will probably go on another repression spree instead of doing something.

I guess I came too late for the thread.
Hope she doesn't hurt herself more. She already had a shitty one.

>>8840864
Anon, you have been through some though times, and I would like to hug you. From what you have written, you are just like me - or what I would have become if I decided to repress everything and become an empty husk to live like my family wanted.

In stead after staying in robot mode for all my childhood, and teen years I betrayed my family and did something extremely selfish for me, and myself alone: I transitioned.

I never got to the point where you did, to be too ashamed of yourself to go out of your room. I would have been ashamed to do that, since what I learned is that money makes a man's worth, and if I didn't go out and study and do my job at night, I would be worthless. Or worse: homeless. A useless eater and I would have to kms.

When I started, both my support group (/TTTT/ irl) and my therapist laughed at me. They said I have 0 chance of ever becoming a woman. I was shaking when I told them my real name for the first time. I felt I did not deserve to be called in a female name. I looked nothing like a girl.

12 years of bullying - through all my school years - have desensitivized me from bullying (and social contact). I decided to transition anyway, my other opinion being sudoku. I thought that if I just look faintly more feminine than when I started, I could live with myself once again.

The actual results far exceeded even the most optimistic scenario I drafted up. Thanks to the specifications of /tttt/, and the hugbox group I mentioned I have a life worth living. I have a job, a qt bf, and I'm once again at college.

>>8840864
Anon, please don't be hard at yourself. You've done your best and tried to suppress your feelings to protect those you care about from the storm that lies inside you.

Please don't strive for perfection. Perfection is a thing that cannot exist, since you can always do thing better, or work harder. At engineering 101, they teach that something is considered perfect, if it adheres to specification within a reasonably small margin of error.

No one here will ever truly become a girl. Just a mere shadow of themselves. Of what they could have become if they were only born in the right body.

What they could hope for is making society see a girl. And themselves seeing a girl in the mirror - within a reasonable margin of error.

There will always be bullies. You can never avoid clocking, as a truly unclockable trans woman can never exist. Yes, even if a magic fairy made you into a cis female body with all the trappings, and XX chromosomes. You could never erase decades of being expected to live as a male, of trying to acct like one, because that's what people around you wanted.

Please just ignore bullying. If you get hurt, they have won. Headphones are a great thing. You can turn music on, and life off. Besides, in a large city, people just buzz around and don't care what's happening around them. They just live their fake lives.

>>8840864
Go do a doctor asap you gonna kill yourself you dumdum.

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Can someone help with mine too please? I've been lurking this thread and wishing i could find an answer with OP but shes gone

https://pastebin.com/GdAPRqva

I always felt (and been told) that i'm just AGP, that would be a great reason to not go on hormones but... how to make the feels go away then? How to stop being scared and disgusted about male traits appearing everywhere?

*anti-cureanon seal*
*anti blanchard seal*

>>8842816
The frogs that turned gay were the frogs who were repressing, desu. No water filter would be able to save them.

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>>8848393
What about super male vitality?
The filters are there just to prevent the xenoestrogens that contaminated the water reservoirs from the globalist chemtrails.

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>>8848414
HOLY FUCK
Even Alex "The Globalist Smasher" Jones abuses angles like some vain teenage girl.

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>>8848433
Take that back you globalist tranny thrall!

>>8848433
Don't forget the lighting abuse!

>>8840864
You aren't trans. Balance your hormones and eat a good diet.

>>8848505
>T. /pol/ - Politically Incorrect

>>8846005
>She
Mean

DON'T TRAP YOURSELF OP

>>8849812
Do trap yourself, curehon.

STOP LIVING, START FAPPING.

>>8848221
https://pastebin.com/91vucKdx

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>>8840864
Yer a tranny harry.

>>8848221
You're more complicated than OP, while she sounds 100% tranny you sound more like a confused femboy that is probably trans but would be ok being just that, a twink femboi on HRT instead of you know going out as a woman, changing your ID, etc.

>>8849921
Sounds like another confused femboy / AGP.
Tell us more if you can else it's pretty hard to give you real advice. Just wearing your mom bras don't really help a lot.

>>8848221
how do you get cut at 15?

>>8849921
>>8851198
Thank you. I feel like i'm stuck in this decision as i agree with you: I have clear signs of body dysphoria but they're not enough to make me want to transition. I can either do nothing and risk dysphoria getting worse in the future, or go on hrt and risk fucking my life because of parents discovering etc.

For now it's just triggering my anxiety and preventing me from sleeping. Today i was anxious about having to show up in army conscription (hopefully they didn't need me) but ocasionally this thoughts showed up and triggered a panic attack. I couldn't sleep in the last 24hrs. Tbqh i'm having a panic attack rn and i may end up doing hrt in the future hoping it fixes my anxiety

>Why would AGP be a bad reason to go on hrt
I feel like i would be fucking my life over a fetish

>>8851293
Ops i fucked up at this part
It was at 13

>>8852287
FYI >>8851198 replied to >>8849921 as though it was a different person, without realizing they were reading excerpts from you posts which they gave different advice to...

>I have clear signs of body dysphoria but they're not enough to make me want to transition. I can either do nothing and risk dysphoria getting worse in the future, or go on hrt and risk fucking my life because of parents discovering etc.
That has to be your own decision after thinking about your feelings and how well transition would help them and how you'd be able to manage without transition. But don't choose not to transition because you aren't "properly trans" or anything like that.

>I feel like i would be fucking my life over a fetish
What transition does to your life is the same whatever your reason for doing it, and your problems with being male are facts regardless of anything else.

>Thank you.
Thank my willingness to ignore your last seal.

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>>8852721
Eh actually seemed pretty similar advice.

Both that anon said they were "femboys" with some sort of AGP but on the second story he needed more info to even be able to be sure if it was just a case of femboyism or something more unlike on the first post.

I actually agree with that anon. OP is clearly full of psychological trauma plus the tranny stuff but that anon is more on the line of "I'm not trans but I would be happier if I was more feminine and I hate the idea of aging like a man" aka femboy as fug

I wish OP didn't go MIA I wanted to talk to her about some things. Maybe a throwaway mail or something.

>>8852739
WHOS DAT IN THE PIC

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>>8853973
>WHOS DAT IN THE PIC
A turkish boy on hormone therapy.

>>8853980
I think Anzu is cis, but has a boyish figure.