ITT Post famous trans people and say whether you think they're

>>8825973
HARDMODE: Post a famous trans person who can't be typed simply by transition age, race and orientation.

wtf is hsts and agp?

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>>8826406

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>>8826406
This is a good example of an AGP complete with retconning his history to make it look like he's HSTS.

>>8826406
pseudoscience spread by fetishists that want to legitimize themselves

>>8825973
Challenge: find some famous trans woman who can't be classified as either AGP or HSTS.

>>8826563
But you'd just rule them out and classify them as AGP anyway???

>>8826573
funny how there isn't any way to refute an unfalsifiable 'theory' huh?

>>8826573
Sometimes I classify people who supposedly don't fit as HSTS. For example Gigi Gorgeous.

>>8826607
Some people claim there's lots of trans women who very obviously don't fit. I don't buy that.

>>8825973
Andreja seems to be straight, so I guess she's HSTS
i wish she was bi or les though, I would love to be with her, she's soooo hot

>>8826644
As a Marxist would fervently deny anything that disproved the validity of Marxism. A religion will be a religion, and it needs its loyal acolytes.

>>8826385
AGP as shit.

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This should be an easy one.

All the pretty ones are HSTS, master race

>>8827184
That's a tough one
overly fem style and lack of voice training screams Hsts but sexuality and age implies agp

>>8827757
>lack of voice training screams Hsts
???

>>8827184
U G L Y

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>>8825973
I dunno what category she belongs in.
Help.

>>8827888
>makes electronic music
>doesn't give a shit about her appearance
>most likely asexual or into girls
A G P
>never announced her trans status and isn't an attention whore about it
H S T S

>>8827820
Hsts believe they are female at their core, so having a deep manly voice doesn't matter to them

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>>8827986
that's not how hsts works...

hsts have the faggy "untrained" voice because they're used to talking in an effeminate voice.

>>8827986
You just described AGPs tbhon

Also HSTSs NEVER have deep manly voices because HSTSs are inherently feminine.

>>8827990
Post your vocaroo, my man.

>>8828000
Nope, Hsts are naturally effeminate. Effeminacy =/= femininity although Hsts commonly conflate the two, believing their effeminacy sufficient legitimize a female identity. As such, they believe that superficial characteristics such as voice and blending in to be secondary to their internal effeminate identity, which they aggressively and masculinely assert. Whereas agps confuse their innate femininity for beta maleness, and passively accept the role society places upon them. When they finally learn, they go through intense pains to make themselves blend in as much as possible, unless they've been damaged by societal demands of them for so long that they've gone insane

>>8828064
aaaaaaaHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHHAAH

>>8828072
Not an argument.

>>8828502
Show me an example of an agressive HSTS.

>>8828507
Show me an Hsts

>>8828064
>Effeminacy =/= femininity
What's the difference?

>>8827951
>right wing conservative
>adam's apple
>6 feet tall
Literally /tttt/'s definition of AGP

Dear lord this man is our doctor? We are so fucked

>>8830095
This Blanchard guy that all these threads are about. He seems like a douche.

>>8828583
He's making shit up like most blanchard asspies do because there's only so many 80s questionnaire surveys they can regurgitate in its place.

What category do asexual mtfs fit into?

>>8830312
some hsts identify as asexual gays and asexual lesbians pre-transition

>>8830312
AGP. Remember that the original terms are homosexual transsexual and nonhomosexual transsexual. That is intentional.

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>>8828064
>when the Blanchardian autism starts imploding
What a beautiful sight this is.

>>8830357
Does the sexual orientation refer to the identified gender or the biological gender? Are transbians AGP or HSTS? If I am male biologically, identify as female, and want to fuck females am I homosexual?

>>8830385
In HSTS and NHSTS, orientation refers to biological sex. It makes sense with things like the way HSTS may identify as gay before transitioning and be part of the gay community, while AGPs socialize as straights before becoming transbians.

>>8830385
According to Roddy Boy, Ray Ray, and Kay you are heterosexual.

What about Lynn Conway? She had really severe dysphoria and wanted to be a girl since she was 3 or 4, but she had two kids before transitioning. http://dme.engin.umich.edu/lynnconway/#- http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/LynnsStory.html

>>8830407
She's the one who harassed Blanchard, Bailey and Lawrence.

>>8830372
You mean laughing at your own joke?

>>8830413
What did Ray Ray, B-Dog and Law-man ever did to her?

>>8830426
>Law-man
Fuck you.

>>8830432
[Blanchardposter triggered because his goddess was misgendered]

>>8830432
ahahahahahahahahahahaha

>>8830432
so much for blanchardians being the ones who don't respect trans people

>>8827888
There's not much available about her online, but transbian = AGP. She also looks AGP, so that fits.

>>8830407
Onset age is the "standard"/non-Blanchardian definition of the two groups. I'm not sure if they would consider Lynn Conway early onset. (Probably wouldn't? They can't be *that* incompetent, so I'd guess that their definition of early onset dysphoria requires it to be visible through gender nonconformity or something.)

Anyway, Lynn Conway is clearly AGP and the romantic hypothesis gives you a perfectly fine explanation for why we could see early onset AGPs.

>>8827123
Didn't she date Erika Linder?

>>8831239
Have any SurveyAnon approved HSTS autobiographies/stories like the one Lynn wrote but HSTS?
Bonus point for FtM

>>8831239
>I'd guess that their definition of early onset dysphoria requires it to be visible through gender nonconformity or something
But didn't Lynn have observable childhood gnc?

I think the common definitions of early onset is either just noticeable dysphoria rather than wishing to be the opposite sex or retroactively meeting the childhood GD DSM criteria
Lynn Conway is definitely early onset by both standards

>>8825973
23 months HRT and seeing a single pic of her still makes me suicidal instantly
rip lol

>>8832875
If you were actually suicidal, you would have died already.

>>8825973
HSTS. Nice hair, good make up, nice clothes. If she was AGP she'd look like a retarded man child with a bow in her hair, a frilly giant toddlers dress and knee high striped stockings.

>>8826081
Is that even a tranny? Looks like some gay guy.

>>8826430
Lol

>>8827184
AGP with the benefit of being surrounded by the most glamorous women in the world who can supply him with the tools to look good.
Without the Kardashian/Jenners around him, Bruce would be the hottest mess walking the planet.

>>8827888
AGP

>>8826385
Goddess

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>>8832897
>Looks like some gay guy
Ironically, they're the only early transitioned AGP transbian.

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>>8830474

ahahahahahhahahaha

>poor anne lawrence, she never did anything wrong, i-it's not like she ever propagated a """"""theory""""" that fetishizes and intentionally delegitimizes transgender peoples identities, right?

>>8832897
>HSTS
>she, her

>AGP
>him, <deadname>

TERF confirmed.

>>8832906
Ew

>>8833004
AGP are not trans women. They are cis men with an extreme fetish

>>8833060
>t. doesn't understand agp/hsts classifications