>try NoFap to get rid of my AGP >go to sleep >dream

>>8823274
>I can't be a cute grill
Why?

>>8823274
Take cypro to kill your libido.

>>8823274
HRT helps, estrogen cures autism

>>8823280
reminder that "trutrans" and "legitimacy" are just vanity that harms transpeople

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>>8823276
I'm too old (26), plus bone structure.
>>8823277
How does it work?
>>8823280
I wish I was, at least, a passable trap.
>>8823282
Does it? I sperg out every time I try to talk in front of too people. I'm considering suicide.

>>8823295
How do they harm trans people?

>>8823299
Could be. Or could be that repressed tranners chanel their dysphoria through agp, sissy etc. Seems common

>>8823299
so it's impossible to be sexually deviant, perverted or misogynistic and still trans?
saying that opinions and actions are what makes you trans or not makes it look more like a "delusion" or non-medical than anything else

>>8823280
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4iBBfEHNaE

>>8823304
they tell transpeople that unless you fulfill certain standards of behaviour any trans feelings or dysphoria you have aren't real because you can't be "actually trans"
ironically this also creates hons

>>8823323
I can get that. I just mean that for me at very least all this porn, perversion was mere coping mechanism for not admiting to myself who am I.

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>>8823299
But agp is transsexuality. Some people were agp ever since childhood and acted effeminate as a result of it. Some people come out as trans at 40 after living successful life as males yet still keep acting male.
Most people would argue that only one of these is a fetishist but their root reason for being trans is the same and in fact the former kind of person might be way more AGP than the 40yo transitioner hon.
Calling agps nonlegitimate is wrong though. Division over what makes someone legitimate or nonlegitimate should be made on completely different grounds.

>>8823323
people have free will and it's retarded to say that a person is trans or not based on what they do or don't do
again, are you saying that someone who's trans can't be a spotty freak who jerks it to anime? do you have any proof?
if you think that what makes someone trans or not is how well they look and pass as female or male just say it but don't try to bullshit that only the beautiful and perfect people are actually innately trans and not the ones with thoughts you don't like
especially if you have no proof

>>8823300
>How does it work?
It kills your libido eliminating testosterone.

>>8823353
>>8823348
lol you have no proof for any of this
you just don't like the idea that you might be the same way as some ugly or perverted people are so you say they're not actually trans

>>8823353
>All TRUE TRANSSEXUALS should get SRS when their bell goes off.
FTFY

>>8823323
Live and let live. Or don't. You can always get a gun and kill a bunch of people. Or blow your brains out in the middle of class. If it bothers you that much.

>>8823348
>No it isn't.
>AGPs aren't effeminate. They're cis misogynistic men with an out of control fetish.
That's wrong. Calling agps cis males is very wrong. They are simply different kind of trans and if you think agps aren't effeminate then you haven't met many of them. AGP also isn't a fetish, it's an orientation and there isn't much they can do about it. I think agps are the ones who struggle the most honestly.

>>8823372
You're wrong.
Bye.

>>8823372
t. doesn't understand the agp theory at all
bye

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>>8823348
I grow up wishing I was a girl, but I haven't neither barbies neither balls exiting. I'm just a nerd. For explanation:

http://www.avitale.com/developmentalreview.htm

http://early2bed.com/2014/02/05/trans-women-sex-awesome/#intro
And Serano quote here

>>8823277
>implying
I destroyed my prostate for the first time 2 days ago. It was the best thing ever tbhon. Cypro won't get rid of your sex drive. It'll just stop testosterone from poisoning it

>>8823397
Lol that site doesn't say anything about absolutely having to dislike or avoid your genitals to be "actually dysphoric"
Or that if you aren't super dysphoric in childhood any dysphoria later on isn't real
It just says it "can appear" in childhood, but not necessarily

>>8823397
Hello? You forgot to say bye for the second quote?

OP just needs a sexual partner to explore this kink with. They could be trans(along side the fetish) but they should just check if it's just a fetish first.
My boyfriend is APG but has a super masc front and doesn't want to transition. He just does a bunch of mdma once every few months and indulges in his fantasy. Then he's back to "normal" for a while. He does get bouts of depression about his strange sexuality but he tries to stay positive and distract himself with other hobbies.

If you ever wanna chat if your having a hard time reach out, anon. I want you to be happy.

And no fap doesn't work it just makes it worse.

>>8823430
>Gets btfo by their own source so makes up what the source actually means to weasel into a definition of trutransgenderism that belongs in the 50's
I bet you played with dolls and had more female friends than male friends too, KEK.

>>8823430
Hey, different person here. Sorry to chime in so suddenly but

What would you reccomend then for people who have an intense desire to transition for whatever reason that you may not consider legitimate?

>>8823445
J-just be a feminine gay guy you're not trans it's just a phase you're a transTRENDER not a trutranssexual

>>8823461
Bye???

>>8823461
So then in other words you want to restrict the administration of HRT on the basis of medical categorization rather than by expected benefits of trearment. In that case, what's your opinion on informed consent and self medication?

>>8823425
Are you gay?

>>8823461
>every trans woman did
Lol no you retard
Also sexuality or hobbies aren't criteria for being trans or not, even at NHS
And again you're saying that only the people who look good and fit in well are actually trans
It's ok if that's what you think being trans means but don't claim that anyone who doesn't fit your perfect acceptable model doesn't deserve treatment

>>8823412
It killed mine. Give it time.

>>8823494
Bitch, I'm 6 months in. Get a bf. I promise you it'll come back.

>>8823496
>6 months
>long time

>>8823514
Bye!

>>8823461
Go fuck yourself

You wil never understand what it feels like to be AGP

You think that it can be wrapped into a fucking fetish, fuck you

You don't understand the feeling of compulsion to release and jerk off and hate that fact, and finally jerking off to your self-loathing based repression fantasies about being shamed and beaten for wanting to be a girl, and wanting to fucking rip off your dick afterwards.

Shut the fuck up, you think this is some kind of fun fetish we have just for kicks, like we enjoy it or something.

All I want right now is for it to stop so I could live a normal life, and how many hours I think and squander my time over wishing I was a girl and wishing I didn't have a dick, and then jerking off to disgusting sissy shit.

Shut the fuck up you fucking cunt and go back to filing /pol/ or fucking tumblr or some shit

T. AGP

>>8823514
So I can't be trans because I'm a stem major and building shit is my main hobby. At last I truly see.

>>8823524
She is probably provocateur

>>8823496
Tell me more, I am taking cypro for seven years.

>>8823524
If you had more female friends than male friends that's +5 to HSTS but your STEM is already a 30% penalty to transtrend resist. Sorry senpai.

>>8823517
>You wil never understand what it feels like to be AGP
implying they aren't repressing agp

>>8823517
this tbhon.

agp is like god decided there wasn't enough suffering on earth and decided to just ruin some people in a more interesting way than he normally does. All I really wanted to do for most of my life was die. I also had a few episodes where I tried to cut off my dick because I hated having a sex drive. You honestly have no idea what it's like, which is fine. Just stop trying to make our lives any worse than they already are. There's no need for that. There's no escape from this even without your efforts. It only ends when we die.

>>8823526
I don't get hard at all anymore but I get the feeling of wanting to be filled etc. Just have a bf to fan those flames and you're golden. It's also easier to cum from anal than it used to be.

>>8823425
In my experience no fap is pointless but no porn is definitely something I would suggest.

>>8823534
Your idea of what being trans is has little to do with reality
You don't want to associate yourself with unpleasant (to you) people and prefer a socially acceptable lie to being honest

When I hit puberty, my newly found attraction to women spilled into my dreams of becoming a girl. For me, sexuality became a strange combination of jealousy, self-loathing, and lust. Because when you isolate an impressionable transgender teen and bombard her with billboard ads baring bikini-clad women and boys’ locker room trash talk about this girl’s tits and that girl’s ass, then she will learn to turn her gender identity into a fetish. (Julia Serano, Whipping girl, Page 274)

>>8823547
>then she will learn to turn her gender identity into a fetish. (Julia Serano, Whipping girl, Page 274)
That was her sexuality all along. (Blanchard)

>>8823549
BYE

>>8823549
You have no proof that there's a different underlying condition
Just say it if you think that your hobbies and interests and how much you look female is what makes you one

>>8823586
Do you think it's impossible to be both trans and AGP?

>>8823586
Rofl I said "how much you look female", not "how attractive you are"
Does looking female = physical beauty to you?

>>8823555
Problem with Blanchard is causation. That transnes is cause by agp and not vice verse.

>>8823397
:-)

>>8823591
do you think its worth wasting time talking to trans-hating retard?

>>8823549
Why don't you try minding your own business for a change? Bye.

>>8823549
The person posting the bigoted statements about transgender people clearly suffers from narcissistic tendencies. If they weren't, they would mind their own business instead of attacking a minority group and then inflating their own ego with self-congratulatory posts.

>>8823607
Do you think it's possible to be AGP and not fit into gender norms?
Or impossible to be dysphoric despite fitting into gender norms?
Or to maybe be somewhere in between a gender conforming cis man with a fetish for being fucked and someone with very early dysphoria (before having any conscious sexuality)?

>>8823627
Hi Cara
>you're a narcissist
Ok, thanks
It's just that someone might actually believe what this person is saying and ruin their life because they believe what they're feeling isn't "real"

>>8823638
Read my post again. Carefully. I said that the person posting the bigoted things about transgender people is narcissistic. Not you.

>>8823491
No I'm a gnc woman and bisexual.

>>8823643
If it bothers you so much, then why are you here? You know antisocial behavior is even worse than sexual deviants. At least the deviants mind their own goddamn business.

>>8823643
And now all data there is on transwomen is against you
What you said has nothing to do with what actual transwomen are like, at this point it's just your own misplaced hate fantasy
>>8823653
I actually realised that after posting lol, it just confused me that you replied to them and not me and also spoke about them in third person

>>8823671
But sexuality is not a criteria for being treated for gender dysphoria
Not in the NHS at least
Is your definition of gender dysphoria not fitting in socially as your assigned birth gender?

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>>8823282
I think I'm living proof HRT does NOT cure autism.

>>8823699
So you really think it's impossible to be at least somewhat AGP and to have a gender identity that doesn't match your body? Despite all the evidence that exists about this being the case for the majority of transwomen?

>>8823699
>>8823671
Nice no citations as per usual surveyanon.

>>8823710
?
Survey would never say anything like that

>>8823716
You know because you are him, you just pretend to be official and put on a trip code. It's easy to tell because you always take great offense to being called any of the shitposters on this board. But when your samefaggery knows no limits such as this, it is only natural that you should be called out on it. Survey anon.

>>8823719
But I'm the person who's replying to the person who you think is Survey
Survey isn't anti-agp and doesn't think that AGPs arent transwomen or that they shouldn't transition

>>8823707
That anon is wrong. AGP is a sexual orientation but it's one that can lead to a female gender identity.

>>8823732
t. multiple personality disorder in action

Nice dodging your lack of citations btw survey anon. As per usual. Never change.

>>8823728
Survey Anon full on admitting his shitposting is a smokescreen for TERF views. You heard it here first, folks.

>>8823728
You have a funny idea of what AGP, dysphoria and being trans mean but whatever, they've got nothing to do with reality and the fact that you can have and get treated for gender dysphoria despite not having played with dolls as a kid or even hating your genitals

>>8823749
Survey Anon giving us a taste of the true motivations that lead him to spam his shitty threads on here. Keep going, you've truly revealed yourself now..

>>8823749
What if someone who's somewhat gender nonconforming has a fetish for being fucked like a girl?

>>8823749
>People who don't harm anything but themselves deserve to be with people who expressly harm others

I spot a triggered pedosexual.

>>8823777
>I know you are but what am I

Are you five?

>>8823274
You didn't just fail NOFAP.
You also failed PORN FREE.
Double failure, OP.

>>8823783
>knowing what the NAMBLA even is

Pedosexual confirmed. Knew you were just the triggered pedo spammer angry because we accept trannies and not your utter filth.

Hang thyself and burn.

>>8823777
Ok I'll go
But you're wrong, genital dysphoria is not necessary to get a gender dysphoria diagnosis and dysphoria doesn't necessarily have to start at childhood
There are plenty of doctors who agree with this, as do the official NHS guidelines and even WPATH

>>8823659
How old is your bf? You should probs prep yourself for him wanting to take his 'kink' farther and farther.

>>8823787
It was featured multiple times on South Park, it's not an odd reference to get.

>>8823823
>I-I saw it on South Park once

Bet you were jealous. Scum.

>>8823813
t. Pedosexual angry because trannies are getting more and more accepted and thus attempting divide and conquer tactics so the acronym can finally through out all those dirty AGPs and replace them with Ps

>>8823808
He's 26. I've dated trans people before and I'd be totally supportive if thats what he wanted. I doubt he will though.

>>8823274
I had your Same issue. Hated myself. Currently 20 years old and 1 week into hrt.