Why are TERFs hated here? Aren't they essentially just feminists

I know right, and why even make the distinction between terf and regular feminist, they both hold the same core values, all feminists believe the same stuff they should all be treated the same.

>>8796370
I know you're probably baiting, but TERFs are far worse than that. Prominent TERFs and TERF organizations have joined forces with conservative christian organizations in the past to try to get trans kids kicked out of school, famous TERFs lobbied before congress to have insurance companies exclude trans people from getting coverage, in the 70s there were several instances of TERFs intentionally sabotaging feminist groups or conventions just because they allowed trans women.

TERFs hate trans women, full stop. If they just had some belief about "trans women not being real females " (which isnt correct either, because "real female" as you are likely imagining it is almost always a goal post moving definition designed to exclude trans women and only trans women, at least as far as TERFs are concerned) they wouldn't care so much as to actively spend the majority of their time attacking a tiny, marginalized, and almost completely powerless segment of the population.

>>8796370
>reddit spacing
>image.jpg
Every time.

TERFs don't accept that transwomen aren't men. Transwomen are not cis women but they're certainly not men.They're in-between. Furthermore TERFs refuse to accept the biological basis of gender identity, or that gender identity is even a thing that exists. They think it's all socialized. Radical blank slatism+hatred of transsexuals=fuckwits.

>>8796378
Regular feminists are the sort that chant "transwomen are women!" fampai

>>8796396
Trans woman is a woman you idiot. It's literally right there in the name.

And people hate terfs like you and OP (do you think you're subtle? lol) because lgbt is normally a nice peaceful board except for your trolling and fucking shit up. That's why we can't have nice things.

>>8796404
How can you call yourself a feminist if you reduce being a woman to genitals and pregnancy? That's exactly what patriarchy does, sees women as walking baby machines.

That's why terfs aren't real feminists.

>>8796396
Nah, i was born sterile, and I never had a fully male endocrine system. Also Im on HRT now so im like doubly sterile now , plus being on HRT literally changes the expression of your DNA.

>>8796404
Not yet, uterus transplants are still in its infancy.

But are you saying that women after vasectomy or that are infertile aren't REAL women? That's cold, dude.

>>8796412
But if you're gay, you both spew and take seeds. I mean, I guess that depends if you're a top or bottom but you get my meaning.

>>8796399
"real female" in this sense is a category that has been constructed by TERFs and other transphobes, it doesn't have a consistent biological meaning. Its only criterion is "can't be assigned male at birth" which isn't a cohesive biological group of people, by genetic, chromosomal, epigenetic, phenotypic , physiological, anatomical, or hormonal standards.

>>8796420
Nah, the point is that your ideology is insane.

There is a saying "exception tests the rule" and your 'rules' for womanhood makes no sense and are full of exceptions.
It's about vaginas, except for post-op trans women. It's about natural born vaginas except for intersex women after vaginoplasty. It's about pregnancy except for infertile women. It's about ovaries, except for women who had ovaries removed. It's about uterus, except for women who had uterus removed. It's about some vague shared experience of womanhood, except unless for trans women who transitioned as children and lived their entire lives as women.

Terf ideology is insane conservatist bullshit with no logic or sense, it's just a stack of offended feelings and contradictions. You just keep moving the goalposts on what being a woman means, and you just end up revealing in the process you have no fucking clue what it actually means.

I will tell you what it means. It means you're bunch of transphobic conservative idiots who refuse to examine or face their biases.

>>8796396
>I guess you're not a man or a woman.
I'm not that poster but I think that's exactly it and I say this as a fierce proponent of trans rights.

People of a certain sex are more likely to exhibit certain traits in certain brain regions. It's a distributive rather than absolute difference. Even before hormones trans people, distributively, fall between men and women in some but not all regions. Post-hormones they lean toward their non-natal sex most-everywhere. Their phenotype, too, shifts toward being like that of their overt non-natal sex in many ways. It is most accurate to think of trans people as being intersexual.

The problem, then, is that society divides people between Men and Women both culturally and in terms of infrastructure. You can't exist within our world as someone who is not a man or a woman. The language itself demands that you have a gender. That you fit into a neat little box. Trans people identify as the sex they transition to because they have very little choice. You can't opt out of gender and that's the closest option.

TERFs "aid" this process by insisting that trans people are trans due to gender roles. By refusing to recognize the biological basis of dysphoria. By refusing to recognize that it is not a mental illness. By insisting, over and over, that trans people are just feminine/masculine individuals of their birth sex. They enforce the false binary along with the rest of them.

>>8796445
According to some scientists, MTFs ARE example of a birth defect, intersex-like condition of the brain. How about that?

>>8796420
Its only a birth defect if I ever wanted kids in the first place lol.

>>8796445
Except for women that have XXY chromosones. Look, you just keep making stuff up. There is no rules and you just keep moving the goalposts, and moving the goalposts, and moving... that's not a debate.
You're doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. That, my friend, is definition of insanity.

>>8796445
That's just straight up not true. Intersex people are at minimum 1% of the population. Possibly as much as 3-5 %. Trans people as A WHOLE, make up like .3% to .6 % of the population. Even at the lower bounds intersex people still outnumber trans women.

>>8796443
I'm
>>8796444

and I basically agree. Once you go beyond really strict biological definitions (which would exclude classically intersexed women) it makes sense to think of transwomen as women because they too are intersexed and are socially women. At this point deciding that non-trans intersex women are women because they pass while transwomen aren't because some don't pass is ridiculous.

>>8796465
And if you IDed as a girl from the time you were a toddler, had supportive parents, and basically never transitioned in any meaningful way, just grew up and got some hormone supplements and maybe some surgery to fix some problems with your body?

Like you realize that the narrative of some trans women is basically identical to that of some intersex cis women?

>>8796461
>In order for that to be true all mtf's would show positive for that condition in a brain scan
The research so far shows that transsexuals as a group do exhibit these traits. Where did you get the 25% figure from? It's just wrong.

>>8796482
An intersex woman who looks exactly like a non-intersex woman is perceived as and acts like a "normal" woman in just about every practical day to day scenario. If someone is functionally almost exactly like a woman why refuse them this classification? Because they can't get pregnant? The distinction only matters very rarely.

>>8796482
Sure, you can say that, but that makes you an asshole, and definitely not a feminist.

>>8796477
Again, making shit up. That's only thing terfs know how to do.

>>8796500
You're not a doctor though (or a trans or intersex woman afaik) , so why is your opinion on this at all relevant?

>>8796500
IMO that's completely fair as long as you recognize
>>8796444

Medicine is a great example of a place where it is important to acknowledge the actual differences between the groups, you're right.

>>8796500
Also
>him
is a jerk move

>>8796517
My doctor has literally said though, unless you are specifically seeing someone about genital or hormonal issues, its better just to tell them that you are a cis woman, because the average doctors assumption of what a "trans womans" biology is could actually be dangerous, because in most physiological purposes (especially in regards to dosing) you are more like a cis woman than a man, but most doctors unless they have had trans-health-specific-training or are endocrinology specialists won't know this.

>>8796541
That's not autism, that's called being a malignant asshole~

you people are arguing with someone who can't properly articulate then / than & has been shitting up threads all night.

>>8796540
Interesting. It's sad how ignorant most doctors apparently are.
You seem decent. What do you think: is my position wrong or harmful? I sometimes feel like I'm doing damage to the people I want to help.

>>8796555
Probably doing more damage if you're helping to perpetuate Transgender Broken Arm Syndrome.

>>8796370
Let's just get this straight. Feminists are retarded, terfs are just on another level of retarded.

>>8796588
And I (>>8796540) wasnt even talking about Trans Broken Arm syndrome, which is honestly a pretty bad issue unto itself. I'm pretty sensitive to certain chemicals, and my doctor has basically said that if someone dosed me certain meds as if had the physiology of a man, not only would they be overdosing me, they could potentially kill me, or at the very least do serious damage.

>>8796370
>Why are TERFs hated here?
Because this board is full of trannies
>Isnt that technically a true statement?
Yep
>Whats the issue?
Trannies won't accept that fact.

>>8796588
>>8796612
Yeah, that's not my aim. I didn't think doctors were this bad at their job. Sorry. I'll try to do better on that front. I meant the whole biologically female-leaning intersex socially/culturally women angle.

>>8796540
Do you know if the reverse is true for FtMs and testosterone?

>>8796639
Not sure, honestly. I'm not exactly a typical case because most people aren't quite as sensitive to overdosing as I am, but from what I understand T changes people's bodies just as much as E and a lack of T does.

>>8796645
If I'm being really honest, mostly I just never want an ordinary doctor ask me about periods or pregnancy again. But not getting underdosed would be cool too.

>>8796370
divisive identity politik is divisive

the left eats itself and you're all too stupid to learn this fact

>>8796668
>TERFs
>Left
ayyy

>>8796669
>too stupid to learn this fact

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>>8796370

whist I don't really "hate" radfems they always come across as aggressive, condescending and unpleasant and they tend to do a lot of things that negatively affect trans people, plus they seem to have massive victim complexes so theres that

Its not the "they cant accept the fact that there biologically male" thing, because I do

Its that SOME seem to do whatever harms trans people the most

This statement does not include all radical feminists bare in mind

>>8796681

>massive victim complexes...

You've clearly never met a tranny before. Welcome to /tttt/.

>>8796370
There's two categories of TERFs.

The first ones are the ones who hate gender all together. Their ideal world would be one where you could not tell the difference between a man and woman if you met them. They don't like transgender people because they typically try to validate their gender identity by prescribing to the gender roles and norms of the gender they identify as. This bunch usually aren't terrible, and there is some logic to their stance. Gender roles and norms have been used to keep many men and women from being or doing what they truly want to through social repercussions. If it were socially acceptable for men and women do do whatever made them happy and only be judge on their character then the world likely would be a better and happier place.

The second category of TERFs are the ones full of hate. Typically women, though some self-hating men are accepted into their ranks so they can say "see, I don't hate men, I have male friends and they agree with me". These women tend to hate the fact that they are women, or at least are extremely envious of what they see as men living a life of privilege and power over them. They don't dislike transgender people as an idea, they have transgender individuals specifically. They don't hate the idea of gender roles, they hate that they aren't treated like men and than men (through their baby-vomit tinted glasses) are treated like kings. They see transwomen as men, with all the privilege and power in the world, invading their personal space of victimhood and oppression much like some kids in the hood might see some rich wannabe gangster white kid trying to join their gang. They see transmen as the ultimate betrayal of female solidarity, traitors to women everywhere, acting like men for the pleasure of actual men, bowing to their kingly whims for the hope of getting some scraps from the men's table. Most of these TERFs are likely transmen in severe denial and projecting their self-hatred on others.

>>8796718
>implying trannies are anywhere near as bad
and that's saying something

>>8796400
>Trans woman is a woman you idiot. It's literally right there in the name

And a sea horse is a horse!

>>8796400
Trans is also in the name. It's not biological, it's transsexual.

I think a lot of trannies would be happier if this was explained at the start instead of saying everyone who changes hormones and goes through surgery are the same biologically as women.

>>8796878
Do trannies actually believe they will be biologically female? Oh my.

>>8796880
Trannies have female hormones which technically makes us intersex.

>>8796903
> taking hormones changes your sex
No.

>>8796904
Define intersex.

>>8796910
non-standard sex chromosomes

>>8796903
> taking hormones gives me an extra chromosome
kek

>>8796917
>>8796918
Ok your definition is actually wrong. Maybe educate yourself then we can continue this conversation.

>>8796917
Not them but that's not the only form of intersexuality..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex

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>>8796923
>>8796933

the OED definition

It's close enough to what I said. Tranners don't have both sex organs.

>>8796940
That's not the medical meaning of the term. Consider conditions like
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_androgen_insensitivity_syndrome

>>8796940
>It's close enough to what I said.
No it's not. Stop being retarded.

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>>8796943

something that happens as often as 1/20000 live births. You're right, it's totally relevant when trying to classify tranners, who make up, what, 1/200 or something? Somehow you manage to fit in something 100x as small as you.

Also, CAIS results in people actually looking female. Being a tranny does not.

>>8796954
None of this is relevant.

>>8796953
So are you suggesting that all MTTs actually do have vaginas as well as their """""girldicks"""""?

>>8796956
You don't know what intersexuality is.

>>8796955
it's literally all relevant

>Trannies are just intersex!
"except no, intersex means to have both sets of sexual organs"
>There are other forms of intersex!
"all of which are incredibly more rare than being a tranner and have the victim be phenotypically female"

>>8796959
>"except no, intersex means to have both sets of sexual organs"
It doesn't. Read a little dimwit.

>"all of which are incredibly more rare than being a tranner and have the victim be phenotypically female"
Literally irrelevant to what intersexuality is defined as.

>>8796956
Wow you can't follow a conversation either. Retard alert!

>>8796960
It makes the whole thing irrelevant to the topic. If there are other forms of intersex, they're so rare that if 100% of trannies fell under them, the rates would be wildly different. Plus, they have physical tells.

Let's take the MTT. It's born male. It has male genitalia. It grows up and looks like a male. The only time it looks any different is when an outside force is acting upon it- this means it isn't some sort of medical condition making them intersex, it's a doctor forcing them into a state that might make them *appear* intersex

>>8796408
How can you be a woman if you can't get pregnant and every cell in your body has that little "Y" chromosome in it?

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>>8796940
did you inspect element the oed definition? I'm seeing something a bit different

>>8796969
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4699258/
>The results of this study show that the white matter microstructure in FtM and MtF transsexuals falls halfway between that of FCs and MCs. Our data harmonize with the hypothesis that fiber tract development is influenced by the hormonal environment during late prenatal and early postnatal brain development that is proposed to determine gender identity.

>Here, we investigated whether sexual orientation associates with diffusivity measures. No effects on our main findings were observed when sexual orientation was regressed out in the ANCOVA design. Moreover, there was no significant effect of sexual orientation on diffusivity parameters in the regression analysis including all subjects and using group as factor of no interest.

>>8796969
So transsexuals are already neurologically intersexed, before hormones. Hormones shift things further, changing brain volumes to hormonal sex typical figures and causing the development of secondary sex characteristics such as breasts.

>>8796443

> It's about vaginas
No, it's about being born with a vagina unless you have a serious birth defect that is very rare.

>It's about pregnancy
No, it's about the potential to get pregnant, not the ability to do so.

>women who've had their uterus/ovaries removed
Still have the biology of women with female chromosomes.

>You're a conservative blah blah blah
Nah, you trannies seem to be the more conservative bunch lately.

Personally I dislike you for coopting the movement that was just supposed to equal out sexualities, not justify your weird fetish with self-mutilation.

>t. Gay bottom who will never take you seriously

>>8796971
an mtt

was born male
was raised male
thinks like a male
is genetically male

and yet they think they're women. It would be funny if they weren't invading our spaces and legalizing bathroom creepers.

>>8796979
gays also have white matter abnormalities of the same type. Are all gays women and lesbians men?

That would explain why trannies think they can be lesbians

>>8796985
>No, it's about being born with a vagina unless you have a serious birth defect that is very rare.
Being trans is very rare :)

>t. Gay bottom who will never take you seriously
You mean t. science denialist

>>8796989
>>8796989
Typical tranny, ignores the very clearly laid out arguments and lashes out.

>>8796988
>gays also have white matter abnormalities of the same type.
No. They have other sorts of white matter abnormalities. The very quote I posted noted that orientation is NOT a factor in this region but gender identity is. Here's the expanded version:

>To investigate whether the three sex steroid hormones (E2, T, and P4) or sexual orientation explained group differences, the named variables were added as covariates of no interest within separate ANCOVA analyses. Finally, multiple regression analyses were performed to determine the effects of hormones and sexual orientation on diffusivity maps independent of group membership, i.e., with group in addition to TIV as factor of no interest. Separate models were calculated for each of the independent variables (E2, T, P4, and sexual orientation).

>Associations between TBSS measures and sexual orientation
>Here, we investigated whether sexual orientation associates with diffusivity measures. No effects on our main findings were observed when sexual orientation was regressed out in the ANCOVA design. Moreover, there was no significant effect of sexual orientation on diffusivity parameters in the regression analysis including all subjects and using group as factor of no interest.

>>8796994
Argue against the facts fampai

>>8796999
Answer my arguments line by line and I'll gladly continue this discussion, if not though I won't be surprised, y'all typically just leave it at "I wanna wear a pretty dress senpai" and act like that means anything to anyone.

>>8796995
brains vary hugely anyways. It's well accepted that you can't look at a brain and say "yep this is a woman's brain"

also, by even the trend being in between men and women, it would show that the tranner isn't actually a woman, but rather just an "it".

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Why do TERFs care whether they are hated or not on a tranny website? Aren't they essentially just feminists who stick their noses in other people's business and try to police other people's bodies?

Whats the issue? Isnt that technically a true statement?

I mean TERF's understand trannies don't care about their opinions? They understand no one cares about their opinion either right?

>>8796370
the wage gap is a myth hun

>>8797007
>nobody cares about our opinions

I dunno, seems like our opinions are gaining some traction. Bathroom bills to keep you men out of our spaces, laws saying you're sick and can't join the military, congress trying to pass an act that would negate all previous rulings preventing transgender ""discrimination""... seems like our points of view are actually picking up quite nicely.

>>8797007
>essentially just feminists who stick their noses in other people's business and try to police other people
But that is all thirdwave+ feminism in a nutshell. Why should anyone trans care what a moral busybody thinks.

>>8797004
>brains vary hugely anyways. It's well accepted that you can't look at a brain and say "yep this is a woman's brain"
More or less. IIRC you can only guess right 80% of the time. Distributive correlations, not absolute differences. Transsexuals as a group, even before hormones, fall between men and women.

>also, by even the trend being in between men and women, it would show that the tranner isn't actually a woman, but rather just an "it".
So, you could say a trans person is not a man or a woman but between the sexes..? That they're Inter..Sex? :thinking:

>>8797015
By "grab them by the pussies" Donald Trump and his vice president Mike Pence, who actively worked against abortion rights in his state. These are your allies. You've thrown your lot with the most misogynist of conservatives.

So no, it is not that your views are winning. It's that the conservatives you're supporting have always hated trans people and they're the ones leading the charge now. Enjoy losing your rights after they're done with the tranners. Planned Parenthood is already gutted. All a worthwhile sacrifice though, right?

>>8797024
mtts are not, and will never be, women. FGM will never affect your group, you will never be seen as inferior simply for existing, you will always have had male socialization, you will always be biologically male (chromosomes, prostate, lack of any female organs either now or previously).

You're men trying to sneak into women's spaces and cash in on female problems. When the women's march (don't agree with it but it's a good example of your group's thought process) had the stupid pussy hats, you men complained because it wasn't focusing on you.

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>>8797015
>Bathroom bills to keep you men out of our spaces
That will only keep the tootises out and I am okay with it.
>laws saying you're sick
There are no such laws.
>can't join the military
That was reversed just a day ago. Dumbf has no power over the military.
>congress trying to pass an act that would negate all previous rulings preventing transgender ""discrimination"".
Good luck with that, American College of Pediatricians.
> seems like our points of view are actually picking up quite nicely.
Why do fringe groups like yours always believe they have any real influence over anyone? This is just as pathetic as how /pol/ believes they actually put Le Orange Man in the White House with their "meme magic" tbhon.

>>8797040
you're right, I would rather there be a fight for abortion rights than men being legally allowed into our changing rooms and restrooms so they can peep on and rape our daughters.

As for DT and MP, they're wrong on the abortion thing, but are right on you. The general public will defend us on abortion rights anyways- we've had our scotus battle.

We would have been able to have a president who could have been pro women and anti trans if it weren't for you men making such a fuss and politicalizing your own existence so you can force people to call you women when you bulge out panties with your dick

>>8797047
bathroom bills will make sure that in any business or school, trannies are publicly known to be what they are. You'll legally have to be in the men's restrooms, or else the company will get sued into the ground- and so, the companies won't back you. Same thing with schools.

>laws saying you're sick
the people who can't join the military are the people too weak to do so

>can't join the military
Mattis is looking how to implement it, not how to reverse it

>>8797041
>mtts are not, and will never be, women
Biologically? Right. Transsexuals are between men and women. Culturally? That's debatable.

> FGM will never affect your group
True, though plenty of issues that affect women affect passing transsexuals because they're parsed as women.

>you will never be seen as inferior simply for existing
I think you're proving the opposite here. You just called us an "it" upthread for merely being born with an intersex condition.

>you will always have had male socialization
Socialization differs between culture to culture. This isn't really a good way to gauge womanhood.

> you will always be biologically male (chromosomes, prostate, lack of any female organs either now or previously).
You're back to denying the intersexual status of transsexuals.

>You're men trying to sneak into women's spaces and cash in on female problems.
Wrong. You just said this yourself: transsexuals aren't men.

>When the women's march (don't agree with it but it's a good example of your group's thought process) had the stupid pussy hats, you men complained because it wasn't focusing on you.
Yeah that was pretty silly.

>>8797048
>you're right, I would rather there be a fight for abortion rights than men being legally allowed into our changing rooms and restrooms so they can peep on and rape our daughters.
Instead you're forcing women to carry rape babies, pay for the funeral of their fetus when they miscarry and risk prison and death to perform abortions. How many trans people have done as you suggest?

>The general public will defend us on abortion rights anyways- we've had our scotus battle.
HAHAHA just like Trump's supporters defend immigrants from white supremacists right? Trump is crowning new Justices. You signed your death warrant.

>We would have been able to have a president who could have been pro women and anti trans if it weren't for you men making such a fuss and politicalizing your own existence so you can force people to call you women when you bulge out panties with your dick
We could have a president that fought for women instead of against them if you weren't so consumed by hatred that you willingly sacrificed womankind's bodily autonomy just to stave off an imaginary threat.

>>8797048
>The general public will defend us on abortion rights anyways-
No they won't, get real.
The same "general public" that believes men should be kicked out of women's bathrooms also believes women's "natural" purpose is to be chained to a radiator in the kitchen pregnant and uneducated just like in the "good old times."

>>8797054
>culturally debatable
ha, no. Even in the most liberal spaces you're seen as different from women. You're praised for even the slightest things. Oh, you went outside in makeup and a dress? Congratulations, so brave and impressive.

It's like when a child builds something with legos and you call them a little engineer

>passing transsexuals
don't exist. Plain and simple. I'm not gonna lie, there are some who are physically attractive, but not in a female way.

>inferiority
No, I'm calling you an "it" because it's the closest thing to a woman that you men will ever be

>male socialization
for any group, you were raised differently. You're going to behave like men- and there are trends throughout the world.

>biologically male
tell me when you have a vagina (note that the neo vagina is as much an actual vagina as a an empty eye socket. Sickos can stick their dicks in it, but it isn't a vagina)

>>8797059
>how many trans people are rapists
Hard to say, because the media which is so fucking in love with you men won't report on it. My guess? A huge amount

>immigrants
Oh, you mean the illegal immigrants who rape and abuse women? I'm so very hurt by them being kicked out.

>>8797060
good to see you admit mtts are men

>>8797064
>Congratulations, so brave and impressive.
Only manfaced trannies get "praised" like that. If you physically look like a woman you also, *surprisingly*, get treated like one.

>>8797076
see
>>8797064

passing trannies don't exist

>>8797064
>>8797064
>No, I'm calling you an "it"
See, this is exactly the reason why no one takes your hostile fringe group seriously because you are uncivil and aggressive trying to get your point across.

TERFs could have just said "our beef with trannies is that you won't admit to be biological males" but when you start relegating people to "it" implying trannies are somehow not human you lose any respect you initially had.

Now quit master-baiting and finally admit you are just a troll master-baiting on a Australian didgeridoo polishing site.

>>8797093
I'm calling you an it because the best thing you've got is that you're neither male nor female.

I prefer to just call you men and be done with it.

As for nonhuman, that's your words not mine. Besides, don't you trannies enjoy those "gender neutral" pronouns anyways?

ha, all these mtts and not one can refute the simple fact that there's not a single mtt out there who actually passes

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>>8796370
Most of the posters here are fine with MTFs being outcasted and considered as men and banned from public facilities and receiving medical treatment, as long as it's coming from a currently "hip" antagonist a la the alt-right and /pol/.

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>>8797101
>As for nonhuman, that's your words not mine
You know damn well It is used for "inanimate objects" and "animals," stop suddenly pretending to be some border-hopping ESL illegal.

Try to get out of this one, Mr. Baitmaster.

>>8797155
You're the ones who've changed pronouns. You guys say suddenly it is an acceptable pronoun, and I'm the bad person for using it?

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Daily reminder that this thread was opened by the TERF Jesus.

Yes, a fucking dude is opening and maintaining these TERF threads. Big surprise.

>>8797221
Why do you get to decide if and if not cis women don't like MTFs?

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>>8797221
Just came here to say I haven't been on /lgbt/ for weeks and haven't created a new thread since many months. A friend just screenshotted your post and sent it to me and we had a laugh over the name /lgbt/ gave me.

Keep on rollin', I'm loving the memes.

P.S. trans "women" are really men, but that's OK. Nothing wrong with being a guy wearing skirts or taking hormones or whatever.

Love, TERF Jesus <3

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>>8796370
>>8796396

Reminder that >>8796370 is the same autist who's spammed this and tried to argue the science just to get BTFO when it turns out doctors and journals disagree with him.

Also reminder his nonstop broken record was so pathetic that even pol has laughed him out so the only thing he can do now is spam the same thing over and over here

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/125561523 pol got tired of the autist

>>8797229
Maybe because we know cis women who aren't fucking TERFs and don't see trans women as fake or lesser?

>>8796555
Why is it an autist like you would try to practice medicine despite having no education and all real doctors doing things the opposite of what you want?

>>8797267
Except they all have small bodies with female like proportions and female secondary traits and nul primary traits.

So unlike you they're cute and basically female. I'm sorry you couldn't transition because you were too much of a manly hairy freak.

>>8797267
>A friend just screenshotted your post and sent it to me
:^)

>>8797221
How did you know?!

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>>8796370
Also reminder that >>8796370 was autistic enough to spam this same thing nonstop till he got banned in both pol and lgbt

archive.loveisover.me/lgbt/thread/7987978/
http://archive.loveisover.me/lgbt/thread/8093853/
http://archive.loveisover.me/lgbt/thread/8107329/
http://archive.loveisover.me/lgbt/thread/7985603


He then retaliated by posting child porn but said it was all cool cause he just did it as a "joke"

>>8796428
Yes. It is.
A woman still becomes unable to bear children.
Your reasoning suggests that a woman unable to bear children (through natural or unnatural means) is not a Real Woman.

>>8797221
>>8797299
You can tell by the TERFposting

>>8792503

>>8796370
Why are feminists hated here? The same reason they're hated everywhere else. Because they're wrong about everything and won't stop rubbing everyone's noses in it.

>>8797293
>Except they all have small bodies with female like proportions and female secondary traits and nul primary traits.
10/10 would laugh out loudly again.

>>8797295
Yes, literally! Cliché isn't it? I'm busy these days and currently on mobile though so won't stick around, sorry!


Posting CP is *puke* but I seem to remember such allegations being raised against me as well.
If you really did it, OP, then KYS.
Otherwise, ganbare OP-chan, keep preaching the radfem truth!

>>8796370
> Trans-excluding
> Radical feminists
Both groups are hated here, and so are you.

>>8796370
You sir are correct to notice we, mtfs are aware of not being cis-girls. But to terfs we are men, and that kind sir is simply a mistake. It should be noted that while we're obviously not cis-girls, we are trans-girls. Girls being a keyword here mind you. Hope it enlightens you a bit. Good day to you.

>>8797711
You didn't post the cp you idiot. It's the guy who keeps spamming this and he's a well known joke in pol.

And too bad there's plenty of examples here of people who are small and have child like traits and female secondary. Just because you don't, doesn't mean everybody is like that.

Deal with it.

>>8798229
None of you pass.

>>8798245
>Not being a 4chan detective

>>8797229
>he thinks he's fooling anyone
4chan is a safe men's space and there are no TERFs here, only men and women (male) tbhon.

>>8798337
Nah there are legit TERFs here once you talk to some on twitter you learn to recognize a few key turns of phrase and trigger points. They're here for the same reason the Stormers are here: every other place cast them out.

>>8798240
Says the salty repressed hon. It would be foolish to claim that they have the same phenotype as you.

>>8796432
female
ˈfiːmeJl
adjective
1.
of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) which can be fertilized by male gametes.

Seems like a pretty fucking clear cut biological meaning to me

>>8796455
women don't have XXY chromosomes you fucking dunce, individuals with XXY chromosomes are MALES with klinefelter's syndrome. Stop attempting to twist reality to fit your viewpoint, you anti-scientific ideologue

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klinefelter_syndrome

>>8796370
>Why are TERFs hated here?
Welp, as this thread shows you, it's because trannies are crazy and delusional and invent any kind of fabricated schizo Timecube bullshit to try to defend their insane beliefs, then laugh at anyone who disagrees with their madness and call them "anti-science" as though they understood two words of it.

You can check out this >>8794048 thread for another example, where 1-3 anons (legit can't tell how many) school one on the actual meaning of a scientific paper they use to defend their shit, and they respond by quoting the same sentence and a half out of context over and over and then going KEK U SO ANTI SCIENCE, ILLITERATE even though their own reading contradicts the abstract and summary of the paper itself.

>>8796370
god, go back to twitter/tumblr you TERFs are so fucking obnoxious, even more obnoxious than seeing 3000 /tttt/ threads every day. Yes they all are painfully aware of that they're not cis women, noone is saying that retard. They just want to be treated like real women, if you don't like it this board is definitely not friendly for you, go to your tumblr bunker or whatever website you reside in. god TERFs are fucking stupid

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>>8796370
>why do you hate people who think you don't exist? hurrrrrrrrrrrrr
low IQ detected

TERFs are useless dickheads who waste everyone's time with their Dost Thou Bleed horseshit.

>>8799189
I love this post. It's a parody of itself. You just linked to a thread which shows the opposite of what you purport it to show.

>as though they understood two words of it.
Butthurt projector detected.

>>8799687
>Yes they all are painfully aware of that they're not cis women, noone is saying that retard.
Bruh, in this very thread trongos are denying that there's a difference between women and them, it's not at all just about "wanting to be treated like real women".

Also this >>8799736

>>8800470
>0 reading comprehension