so i was born a girl but since i have a somewhat masculine face

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>>8777460
>everyone assumes that i'm mtf

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i'm mtf, when I started transition I wanted to be fully female and I hated all my male attribnutes, but i'm starting to feel more and more OK being a very feminine boy

Tbh I mostly came to this thread so I could post a better version of the OP pic for you

>>8777460
Just get a strap on

>>8777460
Why do you want a dick so much? Who are you attracted to?

>>8777460
>i'm just this dumbass reverse trap thing.
Reverse traps are patrician though. I used to reverse trap when I was like 14 but my mom bullied me too much for it so I stopped. My face seems pretty androgynous because small eyes and big eyebrows so I can look like a young male with my hair tucked inside a hat and boyish clothes.

Anyway maybe your desire to become a trap comes from the Internet attention they get? I have pretended to be a trap before (put my thigh highs on, baggy shirt and fix the crotch area to appear it has a bulge) and it's pretty funny. Maybe if you do that your curiosity will go away. I doubt you're FtM.

t. degenerate cisbian

>>8777478
cant tell the difference between you and ops pic, also im mtf and just wanted to be a femboy for a long time, but feelings of inferiority to women made me realize i really did want to be a girl but i always kinda hated them since i've been taught they're weaker and pathetic.

>>8777460
>or if any mtf's specifically transitioned to achieve the female-presenting but with a dick state
you very lucky op. Dicks are completely overrated. Plus tucking hurts like a bitch, i don't know how people do it 24/7.

Having a vagina seems 1000 times better senpai. Having a dick means im limited to only doing anal with boys, and it sorta hurts sometimes and honestly is disgusting without prep and stuff.

>>8777513
>I have pretended to be a trap before (put my thigh highs on, baggy shirt and fix the crotch area to appear it has a bulge) and it's pretty funny.
cute desu
I used to love trapping for attention, but even with my male sex drive it got old

>>8777513
Why did your mom bully you?

>>8777515
>what is resolution

>>8777460
Reverse trap here,
It's kinda strange that people think you're mtf. Some people think I'm a 14-16 y/o boy but never a mtf

>>8777533
Because she was always pestering me about dressing like a boy and asking me if I was trans even when I would tell her I'm not. I think one day she even cried thinking I didn't like being a girl or something.

>>8777564
I hate how gender roles are forced on us.

Like, who would even care so much about what they wear if it wasn't for treatment like that in the first place?

>>8777510
i'm obsessed with ass (any gender) and have a strong desire to penetrate it lmao

>>8777549
yeah it's weird, i just somehow dead-on have the looks of a mtf person after like 6 months or so of hrt.

>>8777460
Go to /ftmg/ >>8766778

>>8777515
periods are absolute shit tho. the moodswings they give me result in intense suicidal thoughts every month. a dick just seems so carefree in comparison.

>>8777614
>not wanting ovulation highs

>>8777609
Pics?

>>8777616
they just result in me being going totally schizo and being put in psych wards, it's not fun at all

>>8777618
i would but im kind of infamous on another board and i'm paranoid that someone will recognize me here

>>8777614
as a MtF I never really thought about how terrible periods must be for someone who is AFAB and not cisgender

>>8777625
Yeah they're an absolute nightmare, i'm already diagnosed with schizophrenia but during the PMS period the psychotic symptoms get severely intensified and i am totally detached from reality along with being absolutely disgusted with the bleeding

>>8777621
>and being put in psych wards
wow, what happened?

>>8777646
Suicide attempt/erratic behavior from having really intricate delusions about being an antichrist figure and thus intense self-loathing

>>8777635
I know that feel. I have psychosis and every time before my period I go full crazy, doesn't help I'm not medicated. I'm just going off my period right now and I had to go through 4 days of thinking I had rabies, mad anxiety and barely any sleep.

It's too bad that stopping periods means pumping your body full of hormones making you crazier or ripping your uterus off having to live on artificial hormones all your life increasing the chances of cancer and other illnesses a lot. There is no way out, even menopause is dangerous as fuck.

>>8777653
how long were you in the ward? what was it like?

>>8777655
damn i'm really sorry you're stuck in this same hell. you even have the bouts of irrational hypochondria too. i tried for so long to get a hysterectomy but all the doctors were like Fuck u Ur gonna want to have kids. Like bitch i can barely survive with this mental illness do you really think i'm going to want to breed and pass it on to my progeny?? But then i realized the complications from the surgery would probably be just as bad. Ugh. My heart goes out to you.

>>8777659
I've been in a ward 5 different times. It wasn't terrible because luckily i got put in a decent facility that had pretty modern treatments. It's mostly just extremely boring and they force you to go to group therapy sessions all day long with a bunch of normies who have had midlife crises or something. They go over stuff like cognitive behavioral therapy or dialectical behavioral therapy, or just do silly things like "art therapy" or guided meditation. Tbh it didn't really help much. Occasionally there will be excitement where someone is running around doing super manic/violent shit and has to be tranquilized. I mostly just sat in my room and slept or read books all day.

Well, you definitely have the self-hate/overly critical of your appearance thing that we have.

If it's any condolence a lot of us wish we could have what you do- a perfectly normal vagina. It's just important to remember that we all have wants. And in the end we have to settle for what is physically possible and healthy for us.

Just don't be afraid to be autistic. It is your strength not being a normie, not a weakness.

Godspeed anon

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>>8777679
Yeah it's fucking hell living in fear 24/7. By the way can you explain what happens to you when you think you're an antichrist figure or something? I'm fucking crazy but that just sounds nuts.

>>8777713
Wow that's a lot. I was in a ward when I was 16 but I don't have money to pay them anymore so I just suffer internally. Yeah it's fucking boring, the ward I was in was for minors so we were treated like shit. If you didn't comply with something you were forced to and in the worst case tied all night to a solitary, dark shared room. In fact I did some devilish stuff while in there with a girl that had mania, she told me we were to steal some tangerines from the nurses during midnight and I was so fucking bored I agreed. She got tied up all night to the room I mentioned and I just got a warning kek.

If anyone is curious about third world public psych wards for minors just ask, I've got a couple of funny stories from the week I was there.

Psychiatric care is really fucked, not just in America.

>>8777741
So the antichrist thing...it started out because i suddenly became convinced that I was living in a simulation that was created with the logic of Christianity, so a Hell was programmed into this reality. I started thinking about all the "sinful" acts that i had committed or thought of and I started to believe that Satan was using me as a sort of conduit to spread his message via the Internet. Up until this point i had been vehemently atheist, but i suddenly believed in God, Satan, Hell, Heaven, the whole shebang. It was absolutely terrifying to 100% believe in eternal torture. It made me feel really badly for hardcore religious people who have truly believed in this stuff their entire lives.

But anyway, I'd love to hear the stories your stores about the 3rd world psych wards.

>>8777713
>>8777741
How much do they cost? Do they force you to pay ahead of time or put you in debt after or free you out if you refuse to pay?

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>>8777762
>Satan was using me as a sort of conduit to spread his message via the Internet
Ahaha oh wow. I wonder if when I tell people about my delusions they think it's ridiculous like this. Feels pretty bad when you snap out of a psychotic episode and realize all the dumb shit you have thought and all the bother you caused to other people.

>But anyway, I'd love to hear the stories your stores about the 3rd world psych wards.
Well, I guess I will go in order. I was admitted at midnight after my mom called the cops because I got violent and told them to take us to the psych ward, so the next day I woke up there. The beds looked like hospital bunks from those WWII movies, and the maniac girl told me in the morning that I looked like Anne Frank (I do because joo genes unfortunately) and she seriously told me she was a Nazi. I thought she was joking but then I remembered where I was. Another girl besides me asked me if I was bisexual right off the bat. Being deeply closeted I told her I wasn't (in fact I'm a dyke) and she laughed and told me that then me and her were the only normal (respect sexuality) people there and that every other girl was bisexual and there were even some lesbians. Next a girl in the bed at the front of mine began to ask me if I was a Justin Bieber fan, a Demi Lovato fan, a Miley Cirus fan and wouldn't let the topic go. Hetero girl explained to me she had pretty bad dementia. She was only 14 which made me feel kinda sad/sorry for her.

I could finally see the place in broad light. There were 3 main rooms with beds, once central for special/new cases, one for common/non-problematic girls and the farthest from the nurses was used to store things and tie girls up when they got crazy/misbehaved. The main room was pretty big but just had tables for activities and eating and like two couches and a small-ass TV we could only watch for 3 hours a day.


That's pretty much all what happened when they realized I was new. I will continue in another post.

>>8777804
In the US they cost an absolute assload, like multiple 1000s of dollars per day, and they usually keep you in there for a minimum of a week. If you have insurance they're somewhat more manageable. Luckily my parents do have good insurance so it didn't cost a huge amount for them but it's still significant. Not sure of the exact details of the payment procedures. I honestly have a ton of guilt for causing them to have to pay for my stays in them. It's a very counter-intuitive system.

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>>8777804
I live in Mexico. They make you a socio-economic study of your situation and then place you in a table of price per week. My mom didn't have to pay much because we were kinda poor. I think she payed and equivalent of 50-80 dollars for the week I was there.

>>8777827
Oh you poor murrifats. Sometimes socialism isn't that bad.

I will continue. At 7AM they made you make your bed, go to the bathroom, strip naked in front of everyone and take a shower. It was pretty embarrassing but that went away when I saw a girl that could barely stand because of the drugs, she was all knocked out, couldn't even cover herself. After that we took breakfast. We were in a line and dementia girl suddenly took my hand and said she was a little bird and began to talk about weird shit. A girl warned me to let go of her hand or we would get scolded, and indeed we were. I think the nurses were pissed off by so many bislut and dykes in there and were paranoid about it. The food was absolutely horrible and if you didn't finish they would warn you with making you eat from a feeding tube. That's when I met a 12yo girl that was accused by her parents of having anorexia but she was there for 3 months with a feeding tube and didn't gain weight so they were letting her go soon because she most likely had something physical, totally retarded. She was a qt, made me feel somewhat pedo but a really good person. During all of our meals this crazy girl I think had schizophrenia or something would laugh non-stop and the nurses would get pissed off at her really badly and force her to eat because she would just stare at nothing and laugh. When you talked to her she usually didn't reply, but when she did she would tell you "they" were making her laugh.

Nothing much happened the first day. I will continue in the next post.

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>>8777866
Before the funny shit I will describe some of the most amusing girls.

The lesbian was this one 14yo girl who got gangraped when she was like 8 by complete strangers. Me, being a 4chan autist, wanted to tell her she was just traumatized and probably not even a real lesbian but I managed to control my autistic Internet shitposting urges to not trigger her. She was really impulsive, had PTSD and shit but she was kind I guess. I princess carried her once in the 5th day I think until we got scolded, felt pretty good. She was especially warned to not get close to other girls because she would tell everyone that she's a lesbian so nurses were paranoid of lesbo shit going on, it was kinda hilarious.

Maniac girl would tell me she's a Nazi and daughter of narcos all the time. She and her sister were molested by their grandfather all the time when she was young and was especially pissed off for this. Used drugs and was addicted. Really impuslive and crazy but I liked her. She would always make us laugh doing crazy shit. Defied the nurses all the time and was always in trouble.

Dementia girl was just sad. When I arrived she was kinda lucid, but during the week she got worse. At first I would laugh but then she just became annoying as fuck. Wouldn't leave anyone alone. If you explained something to her she wouldn't understand. Couldn't talk about coherent shit and would get violent at times.

Hetero girl was like the most coherent out of all the girls I interacted the most with. She was really pretty, amazing tits damn. Unfortunately she had a brain tumor but I think it wasn't cancer, dunno what happened to her. Was raped by her neighbor and parents would ignore it. She told me he uploaded CP of her to some website too. Pretty sad.

Everyone else wasn't as notorious.

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>>8777901
I kinda forgot what I was going to write so I will post about random stories.

One day we were having a group activity with the nurses. We were supposed to write a letter to someone of our family and read it to others. Well ok, wrote some pretty bland shit because boring, everyone else did the same except dementia-chan. She made a letter for her sister which at first seemed normal? She would tell her that she was doing good but then drifted off to some crazy nonsensical shit about Disney princesses and broke down crying. I couldn't contain my laugher, I fucking exploded and everyone would stare at me pretty badly. She had to stay in the bedroom for the rest of the day.

Another hilarious thing that happened was when Nazi-chan was eating at my table and asked me if I wanted to see how she skips a meal. I said sure and then she began to scream and ran towards the door where the security ward tackled her pretty badly. She was administered a tranquilizer I guess and then stayed in the bedroom for the rest of the day. When I went to sleep she looked pretty drugged up and would talk nonsense.

Continued

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>>8777921
I remember that in Saturday two people from Alcoholics Anonymous came to visit to talk to us because some girls had parents with alcoholic problems and stuff. We all sit at a table and one of the raped girls began to talk about her story, and the other two followed after her, completely derailing the discussion. It ended up with lesbian-chan wanting to flee and getting restrained by two wards and getting tied up, and hetero-chan breaking down so badly they administered a tranquilizer to her so she was all shitfaced during dinner. Nazi-chan somehow controlled herself after crying and cursing like crazy.

That night I sneaked a book out of the bookshelf and was reading with the dim light from the corridor. Nazi-chan who had her bed besides mine saw this and told me that if I was like that (rebellious I guess?) we should steal a tangerine from the nurses for the lulz. I was bored so I agreed. The plan was that I should distract the nurses asking them for water while Nazi-chan stole the tangerine, so I went out there and while I was drinking she got caught. They asked me if I was with her and I shaked my head. Thankfully Nazi-chan didn't took it badly, I was really worried she would do something to me after that. She got scolded pretty badly, the nurses were fed up with her and she got tied up to a bed on the dark bedroom and spent the night alone in there. The next day she didn't seem to care, I guess it wasn't the first time she spent the night there.

Next will be a scary story, probably the last one because I don't remember anything more noteworthy at the moment.

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>>8777944
On Sunday they took us to another facility of the hospital that was besides the boys' ward. This facility was filled with old (+40) women that were abandoned at the ward many years ago when they still were underage. They lived in a pretty cramped room where you could barely walk between the beds. It had a small concrete backyard where the women spend the day with the nurses and shit. There were like 12 of them, 11 of which were stripped naked with only diapers and their heads shaved, they weren't able to talk and sat on the floor doing nothing or moving weirdly. Some of them would stretch their hands and take your leg, like out of a fucking zombie movie. It was kinda heartbreaking now that I think about it but at the time I was an edgy little shit so I would just laugh while the other girls would scream like crazy. There was a woman who was dressed and sat at a table with a nurse, they explained to us that she could still talk and was lucid at times so she was given special treatment. All others were beyond salvation and told us that if we didn't follow our treatment we would end up like them. This spooked most of the girls out and some began to cry. The girls that re-entered the ward were told to stay there for two hours helping around so they would get scared and follow their treatment and stop returning to the ward. They cried pretty badly when they had to stay there. I volunteered to stay but they wouldn't let me. Anyway, those women were in sub-human conditions but they didn't seem like human so I dunno anymore. Scary shit.

I dunno why the fuck the underage psych ward was not under human rights organizations watch, they treated us all pretty badly, like a nuisance and animals.

That's pretty much all I remember for now.

>>8777944
>and she got tied up to a bed on the dark bedroom
elaborate

>>8777979
They would take her to the dark bedroom and tie her wrists and ankles to the bed using sheets during the night.

>>8777983
isn't that a really easy way for someone to choke or get strangled?

>>8777985
I suppose they would see if any of the other girls went to her bedroom, the nurse watch was in the middle of the corridor after all. I think it was also good that none of the girls were especially aggressive with other people but the nurses because they were cunts.

on behalf of /pol/, why don't you just go kill yourself.

We don't want degenerate sjw sub-humans, that fantasize a functional dick.

>>8777989
not another girl, choked because she couldn't roll over or use her hands or strangled if a sheet got around her neck

>>8777994
why don't you? it was good enough for your boyfriend hitler.

>>8778003
Oh. I guess so, but I doubt they really cared.

>>8777994
if you offered me a guaranteed painless way to death i would gladly oblige, senpai

>>8778006
ugh. wonder if theyd get away with it or how often it does happen.

>>8778011
It seemed normal in there at least. When I stopped being underage I had to go to the nearby adult psych hospital (but was never hospitalized) and I had to get some tests taken but I hate needles and I ran so my mom began to scream at the doctors that they should hold me and the doctors would say they couldn't do that, so my mom told them that in the child mental hospital they would do it and they looked at her horrified haha. Dunno why they get a free pass on that, it's still running up and all.

>>8778022
kids don't get normal rights and even when their lesser rights are violated they don't report it or arent believed if they do.

pleasantly surprised the normal doctors were horrified. you could try and complain about the child hospital since its still open and name names of the staff involved. see if you can change things.

>>8777967
This is absolutely nuts, and can't possibly be good for anyone with psychotic symptoms. It pretty much encourages the patients to believe that there is some sort of conspiracy against them.

I have to tell you about the guy named Timmy that i met in the psych ward tho. He was absolutely the most far-gone, manic psychotic person i have ever witnessed. He was incapable of speaking in anything that wasn't an allegory or a metaphor or just straight up word salad. He apparently used to be an actor so he would randomly perform Tom Cruise or Johnny Depp monologues, impersonating them. He was especially fascinated by Johnny Depp's performance as Hunter S. Thompson in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, and usually tried to act like him. He said he ended up in the ward because he drank a mixture of acetaminophen, wine, and his own piss. He had a fascination with me though because i was the only other psychotic person there and i would tell him shit like, "You are the universe experiencing itself" because i believed in a ton of new age/occult/spiritual bullshit at the time and had a hobby of drinking Robitussin cough syrup to self-medicate. He was really into that though, and one time when i got the privilege to go take a short walk outside, while he didn't, he started to scream "I WANT TO BE WITH ANON, DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG IT'S BEEN SINCE MY FEET HAVE TOUCHED THE EARTH??" and that got him tranquilized many times. He was also a kleptomaniac and enjoyed taking my ipod from my room and singing along to songs on it. He was a big Nine Inch Nails fan and had a lot of their lyrics memorized, would go around the ward screaming them. One time while eating dinner he refused to use a fork and spoon and just devoured the food by putting his face to the plate and grabbing stuff with his hands in order to get in tune with his primal self. He also once rearrranged a salad on his plate to resemble the face of the Dr. Gonzo character from Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

>>8778057
One time my dad visited and we tried to play a simple card game, Go Fish, with him but he was pretty much unable to play and interpreted each card as having a symbolic meaning that explained a Tom Cruise/Scientology-themed conspiracy that caused him to go into full schizo LARPing mode, totally gone from reality. When I got out of the ward I added him as a friend on Facebook because he left a definite impact on me. What is tragic is that shortly after this I learned of his suicide through friends posting on his Facebook page saying they missed him. His Facebook page is still up to this day, even though he has been dead for years. It's very haunting.

>>8778041
Well, ironically enough they helped me more at the children hospital than the adult one. Also if it were to close a lot of kids would go without treatment and help. The conditions are pretty bad but they do help people.

>>8778057
Yeah that was pretty crazy.

That dude sounds rad as fuck.

>>8778073
Wow, sad.

>>8778086
idk then. how did they help and how bad were the conditions, besides the tying up?

>>8778093
The doctor that was assigned to me was really good. Diagnosed me perfectly and medicated me accordingly. In the adult hospital I wasted like 5 months trying the drug flavor of the week that the doctors thought would help me. Nothing did. I stopped going.

Well first of all they would rarely take us outside. The male ward had a backyard but the female ward was just a building. During the week there we only went outside two times. The nurses were absolute cunts, they would restrain and administer tranquilizers to the girls for little shit before trying to calm them down themselves, just went the quick way. We would have nothing to do after the breakfast. From 9 AM to 6 PM we wouldn't be able to watch TV or anything. If we behaved well we could go to some morning activity but guaranteed after 2 PM you didn't have anything else to do at all but talk or read something. If you tried to sleep at the couch they wouldn't let you. If you wanted to go to your room they wouldn't let you either. You had to be quiet or you would get scolded. Your parents weren't allowed to bring you electronics, so yeah no entertainment besides a handful of books and a shitty TV. If you didn't eat your food there was a good chance they would put you a feeding tube. You had no saying in anything that was done to you in there, you practically were at the mercy of your parents, the doctors and the nurses.

>>8778086
I'm glad it worked out for you somehow.

That guy was definitely the coolest/trippiest person I've been around. The nurses yelled at us because we were trading each other's addresses so we could smoke weed together and I really regret not doing that. His personality was so unique and there was so much depth to it. I wish more people had his uninhibited style of expression, it pains me to think that he was so tortured that he had to take his own life...

>>8778109
acting at your parents beck and call is even worse. its like they aren't pretending to be neutral and fair, just hired thugs to enforce mom and dad's decisions on their kids.

how much power did your parents have? it's weird enough that they knew about the staff tying girls up at night.

one doctors whos good at their job doesn't mean they should get to carry on imo. the doctor might not even be there any more.

>>8778158
The parents pretty much had the control. For example if a doctor adviced for a kid to stay more time and the parents refused then nothing could be done. They know what happens in there but since people in here still smack the shit out of their kids to raise them they must think it's acceptable to restrain a kid if they're misbehaving.

I know but I'm not the only person in there who found the hospital useful, and besides the wards they also treat people externally and have a part time anti-drugs program and autism program, so if a scandal from the wards were to go out they would close the whole thing and people would chimp out. Not a good idea, they need to better the conditions without any scandal.

>>8778181
but they won't better the conditions! why would they, they don't care, and who knows how many kids are traumatized or even die under their mistreatment just because they had worse parents.

>>8778211
I doubt any kids have died there because there would be a scandal.

You don't understand how Mexican public stablishments work. If the hospital is closed a new one won't open for a long, long time and even then better treatment isn't guaranteed because they would wait until people forget about it. In the meanwhile a lot of kids and adults would receive no mental treatment because the two nearby adult hospitals would saturate and their conditions would drop below the floor. Closing the children hospital is just a really, really bad idea and would create more harm than the one you want to prevent.

>>8777460
post picz plox

>>8778225
idk, the thought of them continuing to treat children that badly or worse is intolerable.

>>8778266
Can't be helped.

Fuck, I love whipped cream from a can.

>>8777460
>>8777597
I'm the same except the only masculine thing I have is a bit of facial hair and it has more to do with genes than anything else (werewolf family)
I get occasionally mistaken for MtF but it's more of a behavior thing

Oddly enough I started dressing male like 6 years ago and I feel much better, I just fantasize about being a feminine trap but it's pretty much a fantasy

>or if any mtf's specifically transitioned to achieve the female-presenting but with a dick state
Don't think any are on 4chan but they exist

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>>8777901
>>8777921
>Maniac girl would tell me she's a Nazi and daughter of narcos all the time. She and her sister were molested by their grandfather all the time when she was young and was especially pissed off for this. Used drugs and was addicted. Really impuslive and crazy but I liked her. She would always make us laugh doing crazy shit. Defied the nurses all the time and was always in trouble.
>Another hilarious thing that happened was when Nazi-chan was eating at my table and asked me if I wanted to see how she skips a meal. I said sure and then she began to scream and ran towards the door where the security ward tackled her pretty badly. She was administered a tranquilizer I guess and then stayed in the bedroom for the rest of the day. When I went to sleep she looked pretty drugged up and would talk nonsense.
>Nazi-chan who had her bed besides mine saw this and told me that if I was like that (rebellious I guess?) we should steal a tangerine from the nurses for the lulz. I was bored so I agreed. The plan was that I should distract the nurses asking them for water while Nazi-chan stole the tangerine, so I went out there and while I was drinking she got caught. They asked me if I was with her and I shaked my head. Thankfully Nazi-chan didn't took it badly, I was really worried she would do something to me after that. She got scolded pretty badly, the nurses were fed up with her and she got tied up to a bed on the dark bedroom and spent the night alone in there. The next day she didn't seem to care, I guess it wasn't the first time she spent the night there.

WAIFU MATERIAL

>>8777623
post pics don't be shy, no one from there cares you post a selfie here if they already know how you look like anyway

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>>8777460
Are you the person from thread in pic? If so you don't look as bad as you think imho

Either way I think somewhat recently someone performed the first dick transplant right? Hopefully in the future they'll be available for everybody, so I mean, there's that option

>>8781989
>you don't look bad

looks like a god damn hon

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>>8777460
>>8781989

why do hons lie so often about being cis women with hormonal imbalance or having intersex condition?

I knew several hons who told me such lies, and in each case it later turned out they are just 100% trannies

do they not realize how easy to see through their lies are? passing is not about making up non existent condition and having people "accept" you as a woman on that basis anyway

>>8782002
Are you sure they know? They may just be under the ~impression~ they're intersex because they match a few criteria. People do that with the internet, you know.

>>8782009
im sure, and they admited it later

one was claiming to be a herm with both penis and vagina, then their nudes were leaked and turns out they only have male genitals and they admitted they are just mtf

>>8777460
I love posts like these. They're the pinnacle of degeneracy.

>>8782023
Fair enough. I'm just one of those people whose always extra careful to consider possible alternate explanations.

To be fair, it gets me into trouble a bit though. =(

>>8781993
Alright body tho