Is being bi becoming more common? I'm from California and

>>8768435
Bi is the natural state of humans. Pure hetero and pure homo are the aborations society/Christianity forces people into.

>>8768507
Bisexuality is gay erasure. It is an identification for repressed homosexuals who will inevitably enter into loveless opposite sex pairings for the sake of kids they will needlessly and wantonly abandon for pleasure in public parks, beaches, and bathrooms.

>>8768507
>Bi is the natural state of humans
I said this to my gender therapist who specializes in LGBT stuff this and she didn't seem to agree

>>8768515
this is dumb
aren't gay/hetero people generally grossed out by kissing a member of the same/opposite sex?

if you would enjoy passionately kissing a person of either sex, aren't you bisexual?

>>8768562
No straight people have a lot more hangups about kissing the same sex than gay people have kissing or seeing someone kiss the opposite sex.

You will not end up with a man and a woman for life. You will eventually pick one, and bisexuals here even admit to longing for a same sex partner but choosing an opposite sex one for the sake of kids.

>>8768577
>You will not end up with a man and a woman for life
so...if you're monogamous you can't be bisexual?
idk if that makes sense

>>8768592
Most bisexuals males choose women long-term but sleep around with males on the side for pleasure.

Rarely are their decisions made on monogamy.

>>8768435
I think people who are only incidentally bi are more comfortable being open about it, rather than hiding it unless they're so bi they can't get by saying they're gay or les. Before only kinsey 3s identified as bi despite the 4s, 5s, 1s and 2s being bi too. Now they're all more likely to come out.

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>>8768632
Bisexuals are much more likely to be closeted than gay people.

>>8768614
sometimes I do wonder if my attraction to women is mostly because of society/how I was raised rather than my actual nature
sexually I prefer men. but I have had relationships with women, and my emotional bond has felt equally as strong with no problems of intimacy, romantically or physically

I guess I can never know but I feel as though I'm more open than others seem to be, so I call myself bisexual (or pansexual)

>>8768640
Now post the figures for het men and women.

>>8768640
The statement "bisexuals are much more likely to be closeted than gay people" and "more bisexuals are out of the closet now than ever before" aren't mutually incompatible.

>>8768648
>sexually I prefer men

we know. Repressing your homosexuality is not its own orientation:

https://www.scholars.northwestern.edu/en/publications/sexual-arousal-patterns-of-bisexual-men

There has long been controversy about whether bisexual men are substantially sexually aroused by both sexes. We investigated genital and self-reported sexual arousal to male and female sexual stimuli in 30 heterosexual, 33 bisexual, and 38 homosexual men. In general, bisexual men did not have strong genital arousal to both male and female sexual stimuli. Rather, most bisexual men appeared homosexual with respect to genital arousal, although some appeared heterosexual. In contrast, their subjective sexual arousal did conform to a bisexual pattern. Male bisexuality appears primarily to represent a style of interpreting or reporting sexual arousal rather than a distinct pattern of genital sexual arousal.

>>8768670
bisexuals are still mostly closeted gay ppl

>>8768675
>Male bisexuality appears primarily to represent a style of interpreting or reporting sexual arousal rather than a distinct pattern of genital sexual arousal.
believable to me.
t. mostly attracted to women but prefers dating guys

>>8768719
>mostly attracted to women but prefers dating guys

how is that different from being a repressed homosexual?

>>8768751
because homosexuals don't find women hotter.

>>8768812
you don't either you just have forced yourself to accept this contradiction you live that you would prefer a man but somehow are still "mostly attracted" to women.

its like talking to someone in a cult

>>8768435
It's the chemicals in the water

>>8768816
it's not a contradiction though. my bisexuality is a style of interpreting my heterosexuality.

>>8768833
it is your way of denying your homosexuality because of what other people think

>>8768856
why are you so determined to make me homosexual? dating guys is hardly hiding being into guys so your accusation doesn't even make sense.

>>8768881
Bisexuals are gay people who refuse to marry the same sex (largely), of course there are exceptions, because they care what other people think.

Everyone has a stake in stopping regressive, repressed homosexuals. Men in loveless marriages with women they cheat on in public bathrooms is the old way.

>>8768948
gay men don't get erections for women like bisexual men do

>>8768966
A lot is possible through denial and repression.

>>8768970
I don't think that's how it works Anon, I consistently find "Chemistry" with both men and women

>>8768977
Gays used to all have to force ourselves to like women. Gay men are not like biologically incapable of sex with women, we just do not prefer it. It is not impossible.

>>8768983
I don't think I've ever had to "force it"

I was groping both other boys my age and also girls my age (against their will) at a rather young age actually

>>8768987
If societally tolerated men being with other men exclusively, there would be a lot less "bisexuals" cheating on their wives.

>>8768992
I don't doubt there are gay men who pretend to be bisexual for the social capital but I can tell you there is at least one genuine bisexual man on earth

>>8768948
>gay people who refuse to marry the same sex
didn't you read the quote about heterosexual bisexuals?

>Men in loveless marriages with women they cheat on
what does that have to do with me preferring to date guys?

>>8768995
arousal patterns when measured, not self-reported, say otherwise

>>8769005
I've never been "measured" myself, I hate doctors

That being said I'd be interested in exactly how they determined those "arousal patterns" and whether they'd call me gay or straight

>>8769012
>https://www.scholars.northwestern.edu/en/publications/sexual-arousal-patterns-of-bisexual-men

read it then

>>8768983
different anon, but a feeling of chemistry and special attachment would be awfully hard to force yourself to feel...otherwise wouldn't all these bisexuals ONLY go for men?

>>8769014
>psychology
oh... I thought for a moment you were speaking of hard science

>>8769021
>awfully hard to force yourself to feel

gay men have been entering loveless marriages to women for thousands of years. going for men was not an option. not that marrying another man is another option, hopefully the number of repressed homosexuals identifying as bisexual dwindles.

>>8769030
im closer to gay than straight, but I have felt romantic attraction to women that goes beyond normal friendship

i don't believe i'm so repressed that I can't acknowledge i'm gay
i have no problem with people being gay, I like gay men, I like sex with men, I lust after men, the male body attracts me...it just doesn't feel true to call myself gay though after having feelings for women

>>8769084
If you prefer men, you are gay.

>>8769093
not how it works amigo

gay men aren't don't just "prefer" men to women, they are attracted only to men and not ever attracted to women, period

You guys will love this one. Would like to get your opinions on it.

I will get right to it (gonna take two posts):

I had recently been involved with someone who was very passive/aggressive and the kind of person who would claim to always be honest (yet lied a ton), and would always blast you for something wrong/making a particular mistake of sorts, yet was doing those very same things herself but would then downplay it or outright deny it. Just your typical hypocrite, basically.

Toward the end of my breakup with her, she had been asking me constantly (and by that I mean, nearly every other day for just over 1 month) to find her and send her videos of lesbos and wanting to see specific things done in the videos more so than other things. She had been wanting to see just the more vanilla stuff (straight porn) at first, but then it spiraled into the girl-girl stuff after a while. After 2 weeks or so go by, she says "Don't get me wrong, I am not actually lesbo", etc, etc. I found this to be quite insulting to my intelligence because let's be real here. Had I asked a friend of mine or anyone with half a brain to get me videos of gay porn, and then said "Don't get me wrong, I am not gay or anything", they would laugh in my face. I mean, here is a clear example. I don't like Hockey or Football, so therefore, I DON'T WATCH IT AND SHOW NO INTEREST IN IT. I don't ask my friends to send me things based on that and then say "Don't get me wrong, I don't like Football much, but yeah, send me a bunch of stuff on it".

>>8769138
Furthermore, going back several years before this all happened, she would allude to this quite a bit:

-I would ask her about certain female celebs or friends and how she felt about them and well, she made it outright known she would have sex with them:
-She said she did something long ago with a friend some years after high school.
-She would repeat certain phrases relative to girl-girl during intimate moments in order to get a rise out of me (no pun intended).

So yeah, it's pretty obvious to me she has a major attraction and proclivity to all of that, yet had the audacity to say she "wasn't lesbo". How can that possibly make any sense? Because if one isn't attracted to that and has no interest in it any way, they simply wouldn't say the things she did or be requesting me to get her lesbo porn nonstop. At a minimum, she is Bi, which to me, is just as much being Lesbo/Gay, because Bi simply means Straight AND Lesbo/Gay. You play for BOTH teams (maybe permanently or maybe for a time, but regardless, you are attracted to both sexes). Not rocket science here.

I feel I am being quite logical in what I have deduced here. Thoughts?

>>8769143
>Not rocket science here

well, yeah. not many thoughts to add. if she's fucking you though, she's probably bi rather than gay. Who care though? Like, you said she was kinda a shitty person, the relationships over, why does it matter?

>>8768948
>bisexuals are gay people
kek
You can write a paragraph but it doesn't change reality. Bisexuals find both men and women attractive. Keep trying to pretend we're just repressed gays, it's honestly amusing.

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>>8768435
>im a straight guy
>on 4chan
>on /lgbt/
Ok sweetie.

>>8769208
Yeah, I guess it doesn't matter now, but she lied and deceived endlessly and was never someone I could truly figure out when it came to certain wants, needs and desires.

>>8769216
Yes, they find both attractive. Correct. No one is arguing that. Forget the whole repressed nonsense either, because all that is just more demagogue bs and conjecture. Fact is, if you are BI and a male, that makes one gay too. Full blown gay (ahem), no. Gay forever? No. Maybe it is just a temporary itch or the whole 'curious' thing. Doesn't matter. What you and some others don't want to understand is that FOR THAT PRESENT TIME, YES, YOU WERE GAY. You were attracted to, and DOING THINGS with the same sex. That makes you gay or lesbo for that time. Dunno why that so hard for people to get.

>>8769355
woah you're retarded. It's not a one or the other type thing. If you are bisexual, you are simultaneously attracted to men and women. It's as simple as that. If you're in a relationship with a guy as a guy, you're still bisexual, you're just current in a relationship with a guy (a gay relationship). That doesn't mean you're not attracted to women during that relationship. that doesn't mean you are gay during that relationship, or straight if it were a woman, you are bisexual, THE WHOLE TIME.

>>8769355
>if you are BI and a male, that makes one gay
>DOING THINGS with the same sex. That makes you gay or lesbo for that time
That's not how it works. Bisexual people are not homosexual people when they perform homosexual acts, anymore than they are heterosexual people when they perform heterosexual acts. Bisexuals are always bisexuals. You're silly.

>>8768614
Maybe, just maybe, most bisexuals in long term relationship prefer to stay as gay or hetero to avoid shitty comments. I've been in a 3y relationship and now I'm in a 4y one and only few people know I'm bisexual since I've only show off my female partners. And I'll be closeted to most of the society around me just to avoid stupidity

ITT homos struggling to comprehend the huge diversity of the bi lifestyle(s), and sweating to fit the whole spectrum of bisexuality into their boring narrative ("as soon you're a bit attracted to a same-sex partner, you're full gay")
Kek

>>8768515
>>8768640
Bi bottoms probably just gay sure. But as a bi top, I can tell you I have no problem fucking a woman or a beta.

>>8769805
I'm bi bottom and I like to have my girlfriend on top (me penetrating her), am I gay?

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>>8768816
>"I experience X"
>"NO YOU DON'T BC IT WOULD DISAGREE WITH MY PRECONCEPTIONS YOU CLOSED-MINDED CULTIST"

t. biromantic heterosexual who only fucks women but mostly dates men because women are terrible people

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>>8768435
>Is being bi becoming more common?
No.
>I keep hearing more and ore about kids saying there bi.
Straight kids who say they're bi for attention, even though they'll never end up in a same sex relationship.
>im a straight guy and
into the gas chamber with you