JUST IN: White House set to issue official transgender ban, remove

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>>8768346
DADDY HASNT FORSAKEN US

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>>8768346
No apologies, this is part of the legitimacy enforcement initiative that him and I talked about.

>>8768346
Bring it on.

t. Trump-voting white trans woman

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>>8768346

How do you know it's just white people

>>8768370
I wish we could have an all-White army but cannon fodder is cannon fodder and better those subhumans than our bright young species.

THIS JUST IN: The Weiss House issued official transgender death penalty, gassing will start immediately

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These queens have been so profoundly cucked by Trump that he could have a press release tomorrow to announce that he hates homosexual on a personal level and that he would support anti lgbt legislation and people here would support him saying we've had it too good for too long.

>>8768354

Haha you just wait til he makes anime illegal, you won't be laughing then

BREAKING NEWS: Anime was declared illegal by Reichmaster Trump

>>8768430
All yidding aside how can we, redpilled gays of /lgb/ work with Trump to throw trannies under the bus as hard as physically possible in exchange for our continued safety and rights?

>>8768346

If you pass and had SRS, what are your chances of getting in even if the ban is reinstated by not telling anyone?

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>>8768431
Weak willed people will always suck up to any authority they can, it's a defensive measure.

>>8768527
Literally none of them "pass" and you can tell when you see these people in person and hear them talk what their sex is.

>>8768536
This is like going to a church and telling them that nobody really prays and they're all just thinking about burgers.

>>8768431
>implying it wouldn't serve us right

>>8768346
Seems reasonable to me desu. Removing transgender service members (i.e. getting fired for your identity) is kinda shitty though. I hope they at least get honorable discharge/pension.

t. mtf

What the fuck, I cannot believe this transphobia.

It's not like being transgender and taking female hormones makes you weaker and less fit to be a soldier. It's not like getting srs means you will be out of service for months while your new hole heals and you are just a drain on resources from then on. This is craziness.

>>8768527
Even if you have SRS you're still taking hormone medications and have to dilate regularly, and it's almost certain your status would come up with a background check or security clearance. Find another line of work, or don't transition.

>>8768550
SRS is an option. May as well ban women since they have the option to get pregnant. May as well ban veterans since they have a chance of PTSD and that's a huge drain.

>>8768569
>May as well ban women
Honestly this. Trannies and gays are basically an irrelevant issue compared.

>>8768580
Trannies' medical costs are lower than the amount the military spends on fucking Viagra.

>>8768580
Also you have to pay women the same when they are nowhere near ask competent as a man. Like it would be better to have 14 year old boys as soldiers over women.

>>8768580
Gays honestly due to their risk of mental illness, promiscuity, and general high risk of not loving the nation as much due to their degenerate lifestyle being outside of the norm disallowing them to relate to the rest of society, should also be banned.

>>8768604
We are nowhere near as bad as trannies and Trump's decisions reflect that.

>>8768602
This.

>>8768604
Questionable but sure, don't rule out banning any group or insisting on DADT.

>>8768607
Keep telling yourself that you disgusting freak.

>>8768589
Yeah but that is because the government is paying for millions of men to get Viagra. Compared the to few thousand men asking for hormones. Per person hormones are much more expensive. Millions of people needing $300 worth of medication will cost more than 1000 people asking for $30,000 but that doesn't mean it is far to give the 1000 $30,000.

>>8768604
Like women love this country. Women don't love anything other than themselves.

>>8768631
Why do you even need viagra to fight in a war?

>>8768638
You don't love anything other than dick in your ass, you'd probably pay so little attention fucking brown boys that you'd let a terrorist through to kill your own men.

>>8768461
At least you openly admit your objectives now.

>>8768550
There are far more tactful ways to accomplish the supposed goals of the trans military ban, without making it SPECIFICALLY about trans people. Something like: from now on, the military will no longer cover major surgeries of servicemembers that are not a result of activity in military service, and servicemembers requiring regular medication will be barred from active service.

>>8768638
"Love for the country" is a meme. Hence why military training is basically brainwashing, very few people are willing to throw their lives away for some abstract ideals. Especially since we haven't really fought a major war for the survival of the country since 1945, it's not like there's even a direct connection between winning a battle and keeping your family and friends back at home safe these days.

>>8768551

Dang. And those security clearance background checks only go back to when you were 18. An early transition would have spared me this mess and every other mess in my life. This is made worse by the career path I want having an age limit of <28. After the next inauguration, I have two years for the policy to change or that's it.

>>8768682
I am attracted to other men. You are attracted to entering women's only spaces, cutting off your penis and testicles, and forcing others to call you a woman when you resemble and sound like a man.

I would gladly sacrifice every one of you worthless deceitful liars for an inch of stability that we would never have being re-populated by non-Whites and Muslims who hate gay men even more than tr*nnies hate themselves.

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>>8768346
Trump just approved this because he doesn't know shit about the military. I'm guessing it's actually from the suggestion of daddy Mattis. Trump did say in his policy address this week, that he'll remove the restrictions imposed on daddy Mattis and the other commanders in the field.

>>8768710
It's okay to say trannies, m8. Or are you in germany/uk lol

>>8768550

30 days of paid vacation time a year for military members. I'm pretty sure a trans woman who just has a desk job can be ready to go back to work in that time.

>>8768607

Good luck with serving your masters.

>First they came for the Communists
>And I did not speak out
>Because I was not a Communist
>Then they came for the Socialists
>And I did not speak out
>Because I was not a Socialist
>Then they came for the trade unionists
>And I did not speak out
>Because I was not a trade unionist
>Then they came for the Jews
>And I did not speak out
>Because I was not a Jew
>Then they came for me
>And there was no one left
>To speak out for me

>>8768631

According to http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40741785 the military spent $294 million USD since 2011 on erectile dysfunction drugs. That's enough for 3 and a quarter F-35As or more than two and a half times the costs of the B or C models. Let's say that means since New Year's day of 2011, let's also just round 2017 up to a whole year. $294m/8 years = $36,750,000/year. Still much more than the $8.4M/year quoted for trannies on the HIGH end. $2.4M/year is the LOW end. If the cost is $2.4M/year, it would take 37.5 years for transgender people to consume the cost of ONE F-35A, the lowest-priced model. And the F-35s will be retired by that point, for fuck's sake. For an F-35B or C, it will be 51.7 years! For the high-end estimate, it would take 10.7 years to consume the cost of an F-35A, and take 14.6 years for transgender troops to consume the cost of a B or C model.

>>8768739

Mattis was actually pissed off when he heard about it. Not because he wants trannies in, but because Trump should have followed the chain of command and talked with him about it first. Mattis didn't like the idea of integrating trannies at first either, but it seemed he just accepted it as part of his job.

>>8768791
A lot harder to come for a Supreme Court decision than mentally ill men who think they are women and need to be let into women's barracks and showers.

>>8768710
t. TERF pretending to be a gay

>>8768800
>calling other people slurs is fine because I think I have the moral high ground

>>8768798
Good thing that's a scientifically inaccurate viewpoint.

>>8768810
men are women now?

>>8768824
If they change the majority of their sexual characteristics, obviously, this is widely known and accepted by the medical community.

>>8768830
their bones will always betray them

>>8768830
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/psychiatry-expert-scientifically-there-is-no-such-thing-as-transgender?utm_source=LifeSiteNews.com+Daily+Newsletter&utm_campaign=a0d96bcab2-LifeSiteNews_com_Intl_Headlines_01_15_2013&utm_medium=email

>>8768803
>pretends TERF is a slur
Confirmed TERF.

>>8768838
let me know when men can give birth or menstruate

>>8768798

It may not be as strong as a Supreme Court decision, but the Ninth Circuit court has already deemed that a person cannot be discharged for a reason that was previously seen as OK.
http://www.apa.org/about/offices/ogc/amicus/watkins.aspx

The plaintiff was a gay man who the Army wanted to separate for being gay. But he never hid his homosexuality before, and his commanders never had a problem with it before, so the court said the military can't have a problem with it now. Every currently out transgender person in the military is protected under this, as they had explicit approval from the highest offices of the military to be openly transgender.

>>8768803

TERF means nothing more than trans-exclusionary radical feminist. That is nothing but an acronym.

>>8768838

Exactly what I thought.

>>8768842
Let me know when a TERF has an argument.

>>8768875
Men harm women when permitted to enter women's only spaces.

>>8768879
Not a transtard here, but what's wrong with harming women?

>>8768879

Prove that MtFs are psychologically comparable to men who would harm women at a higher rate than cis women are.

>>8768895
I am not making the claim that they are women so the burden is not on me.

>>8768879
[citation needed]

inb4 TERF blogshit that doesn't even try to prove the point

>>8768902
>makes wild claims
>denies burden of proof
Why are feminists so retarded?

>>8768837
>https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/psychiatry-expert-scientifically-there-is-no-such-thing-as-transgender?utm_source=LifeSiteNews.com+Daily+Newsletter&utm_campaign=a0d96bcab2-LifeSiteNews_com_Intl_Headlines_01_15_2013&utm_medium=email

>>8768902

I'm not claiming they're women either. I'm asking you to prove that MtFs are a greater risk to cis women than other cis women are. Say there is a 1% chance a cis woman will harm another cis woman in a women's bathroom or locker room. Prove MtFs are above that 1%. The chemical and surgical treatments MtFs go through is enough to conclude that they cannot be considered to act as the average male does and therefore require separate consideration before making a blanket decision, just as you would not consider someone with BPD to present similar risks to someone as someone without mental disorders of any kind.

>>8768920
https://gendertrender.wordpress.com/2011/05/28/men-love-the-ladies-restroom-transgender-edition/

>>8768903
>people are dangerous because i think they are
full retard, homie

>>8768920
men are at a much higher risk of sexually violating women than other women are, especially in close proximity in spaces where nudity is allowed

>>8768926
http://pix11.com/2015/04/14/woman-raped-by-man-hiding-in-bathroom-stall-at-manhattan-bar-police/

>>8768927
http://www.dailywire.com/news/5190/5-times-transgender-men-abused-women-and-children-amanda-prestigiacomo

>>8768931
http://dailysignal.com/2016/06/03/6-examples-highlight-serious-problems-with-obamas-bathroom-rule/

>>8768933
>>8768931
>>8768927
>truthdailynewssiteexposed.ca

>>8768933
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/04/21/pa-man-accused-peeping-restroom-hit-child-porn-charges/

>>8768926
>men
doesn't apply to trans women then

>>8768939
they are men, biologically speaking

>>8768938
>breitbart
I thought you were that same guy posting the other links at first, not someone else replying to him.

wow look at all these scientific studies

>>8768921
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>>8768931
>>8768933

Congratulations, you wasted your time. The plural of anecdotes is not statistics. You have not even looked at the chance of a cis woman being harmed by another cis woman.

>>8768926

Like I said, MtFs cannot be blanket banned for being biologically male when the reason men are banned is behavior as a result of their psychology. MtFs are sufficiently different psychologically that they must be considered as a separate class from a normal man. Or do you think a normal man would treat themselves with hormones for years and obtain irreversible surgeries? A schizophrenic man would not be assessed as having the same risk of harming a woman as a psychologically normal male would because they are profoundly different in their psychology. Why would an MtF then not be considered a separate case to normal men?

>>8768951
[citation needed]
that your linkspam is representative of mtfs if you want to pretend it is.

>>8768993
http://www.wnd.com/2016/05/the-big-list-of-bathroom-attacks/

>>8768999
terfs proven illiterate

>>8768652
The Viagra cost is counting all the veterans who get VA service paid for by the military.

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>>8768926
lesbians* are at a much higher risk of sexually violating women than straight women are, especially in close proximity in spaces where nudity is allowed

fixed for accuracy

>>8768346
But I agree with that decision, the military should NOT be forced to pay for genital mutilation for a worse than normal military person.

>>8768999

I'll try to point you in the right direction, sport. If we remember that the estimate for the transgender population in the US is between 0.3% and 0.6%, and the US population in 2016 is estimated to be 324,950,000, then the transgender population is between 971,850 to 1,943,700. Using the same population estimate, and saying that half are female, which isn't quite true, but close enough, 162,475,000 people in the US are female.

There I did that step for you. Now you give it a try.

>>8769102

Reminder that the biggest costs a transgender person who enters the military healthy and leaves healthy are gender-transition surgeries and that's a one-time cost. A person may also decide to not get those surgeries through the military, because they want a specific doctor not in the military, the next Suporn, as an example.

If you go to goodrx.com, a prescription discount site, and look up Viagra, you can see what you could expect to pay for the drug. Now, let's say you only need 25 mg, so you buy 100 mg pills and split them into quarters. Keep in mind, the 25 mg and 100 mg pills cost the same, so if you were to get the 25 mg pills, or you needed to take 100 mg instead, it would cost 4 times as much as the estimates I will present next. Now let's say each person who uses Viagra uses it two days a week. If each 100 mg pill is split into fourths, 26 pills will be needed per year, that's $1,682/year/person. That person will cost the military the same as a $30,000 surgery for a trans person over nearly 18 years, at the LOWEST dose and buying the largest pills.

>>8769263
>>8769102

You can retire from the military as young as 38, but let's say 45 is the average. A retiree could easily spend the 18 years following retirement being sexually active when you consider the fact military retirees will have been physically fit throughout their careers. A person who spends their youth healthily will still be quite healthy in old age, meaning they could still be quite capable of sex, erectile dysfunction aside.

In the unlikely event a person would use Viagra every day, buy 100 mg pills, and only use 25 mg for each dose, that person would cost the military $5,882/year. Again, all of these numbers are with a discount.

Keep in mind an estrogen pill prescription costs just $10 for 3 months at Walmart with discount.

I absolutely love how anyone queer who supported Trump is expected to "apologize" for a perfectly reasonable policy change.

I mean, I'm not American. But I'm sure if I was, and had voted for Trump, I'd be VERY sorry right now. After all, it's totally reasonable that my weekly T injections wouldn't be disqualifying, but having had AN ASTHMA ATTACK since the age of 13 would be. Yeah. That makes sense. LGBT getting buttmad about this are fucking morons. I'm still pleased Trump won, and even if I weren't...the alternative was HILLARY.

Apologize? Never.

>>8769433
>LGBT getting buttmad about this are fucking morons.
It's not LGBT getting buttmad, it's moronic progressives, cishet or LGBT, who have fallen for the left-wing lie that "rights" mean special privileges, not freedoms.

>>8768791
If they come for the communists, the socialists and the Jews, they came for the right fucking people, anon. If they came for me at that point, I'd go down fighting, but I'd be pretty relieved that I was nevertheless leaving behind a good world cleansed of scum and that future queer generations might begin to start over without those poisonous influences.

>>8768431
>These queens have been so profoundly cucked by Trump that he could have a press release tomorrow to announce that he hates homosexual on a personal level and that he would support anti lgbt legislation and people here would support him saying we've had it too good for too long.
The economy is colapsing dumbass. Trump is trying to halt it. Why do you think people voted for him? No it' NOT GOING WELL ATT ALL!

>>8768547
probably won't happen considering they're trying to "limit costs" in their budget.

> Not using our pronouns is literal murder!
> Our suicide rate is through the roof!
> Even the slightest prejudice will make us kill ourselves!
> If you don't validate our delusions in every way it's violence!
> We have a condition listed in the DSM!

> ... what do you mean we're too mentally unstable to be in the military?

>>8769263

What about the cost to morale of forcing female soldiers to bunk and shower with autogynephiles, or having FtMs raped all the time?

>>8768739
Mad dog mattis himself has said he doesn't care whose in the military as long as he can train them and send them out as lethal as possible.

>>8768346

As a straight white male I want to apologise on behalf of all straightkind and Donald Trump. What can I do to atone for my sins?

>>8769538
If that stops them joining, it's a net benefit.

>>8768346
the country is fucked if it's going to take rights and civil duties from it's citizens especially if they're able bodied.

This will only hurt the u.s. morally for what it's stood for, allowing other places to act in similar fashion or worse to those people. Then what happens when they want another target? Then another and another.

Nothing but numbers after a while.

>>8769537
Not every stereo type applies to every one or forever and is a terrible way of representing them.

>>8769538

>forcing female soldiers to bunk and shower with autogynephiles

It's right there in the name. Auto-gynephile. Another woman isn't as interesting to an AGP as the AGP themself is.

Cis males get raped too. It won't be an FtM problem alone. Militaries have been filled with rapists since time immemorial. It has nothing to do with trans people and is a separate problem with its own answer.

>>8769537
Well, those things aren't remotely true, and the suicide stat in particular has been debunked on this board thousands of times. The problem is that you're not supposed to be in the military if you have a medical condition that requires a constant stream of medicine.

>>8769559
See above. As I said here, >>8769433, it doesn't make any fucking sense that someone like me (who requires weekly T injections) should be allowed in the same military that would otherwise disqualify me for having used an asthma inhaler more than zero times after 8th grade.

What is hard to understand about this?

>>8769573
>Cis males get raped too.
You haven't noticed by now that feminists, and most everybody else, don't give a shit?

>>8768346
>all those horny, angry, physically dominant MtFs coming back to America.

wtf I love Trump now

>>8769573

Women need space away from men. If you have trannies in the military, women will leave in droves.

>>8769559
>especially if they're able bodied.
>imblying trans people are able bodied

They don't feel like they are in the right body and they have more stressors and triggers than the average person.

Maybe non-combative work, but then there's all the hon commanders who decided become women at 30 and up.

>>8768346
This is 100% pandering to his base. The "medical costs" are a drop in the bucket compared to the cost of actually replacing them. And it's clear he doesn't give a rat's ass about the costs considering he's increasing the military budget and ramping up the war in Afghanistan. I honestly don't understand how anyone can't see through this shit at this point. You'd have to be lying to yourself or one of those so-called "low-information voters". Anyone paying attention knows Trump is completely full of shit.

>>8768631
>Yeah but that is because the government is paying for millions of men to get Viagra. Compared the to few thousand men asking for hormones. Per person hormones are much more expensive. Millions of people needing $300 worth of medication will cost more than 1000 people asking for $30,000 but that doesn't mean it is far to give the 1000 $30,000.

Viagra at a typical dosage goes for 400$ for 6 tablets. Ofc servicemen only get a month's leave, and therefore only a few weeks to have sex and use the viagra, but family members are covered under military healthcare too. If someone's father takes Viagra and has sex with his wife twice a month, that's 1600$ a year.

In comparison, it costs me 100$ a month to supply my own HRT, or 1200$ dollars a year.

>>8769433
Why is this suddenly a problem now when it wasn't a problem for years prior? You're making the very moronic assumption that Trump made this decision for practical reasons. It's just right-wing pandering.

>>8769646
But trannies have already been in the military for quite some time now. Where are all the cis women leaving in protest?

>>8768346
>white cis Drumpftards
You do realize that there's a portion of people in every one of the four letters that voted for him, right??

i'm glad he's banning us, honestly

Thank god

>>8768682
>At least you openly admit your objectives now.
No, he was asking how could LGB sacrifice T for safety, not that this was his intention all along.
>There are far more tactful ways to accomplish the supposed goals of the trans military ban, without making it SPECIFICALLY about trans people.
Why would that be a better alternative? Duplicity isn't a good thing.
>Hence why
Learn English dumbass.

>>8768902
You said:
>Men harm women when permitted to enter women's only spaces
That is the claim you've made, and you are being asked to support that statement.

>>8769836
>>8769838
>>8769839
>>8769847

>People who mutilate their bodies and endocrine systems to make uncomfortable feelings go away
>Thinking those people should be put into stressful and traumatic military situations
>expecting they won't engage in more self-harm

Jesus fucking Christ. Have you read through the threads on this board? Endless fucking complaints and attention seeking about suicide and depression. Diagnosing yourselves as mentally ill - and aggressively defending your right to suffer with that 'illness' and mutilate your bodies for some sort of ideological 'progress'.

>be me, diagnosed with gender dysphoria
>no longer allowed in military
>avoid the draft

Thanks daddy Trump

>>8769914

There has literally been research, ordered a few years ago by the US military, on this.

https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR1530.html
https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/RB9909.html

There is no evidence of any negative effect from letting trans people serve in the military. The policy change is a purely political move by Trump. Whether you're trans or care about the military is not is irrelevant, Trump is happy to throw LGBT under the bus as a means to an end, regardless of whether or not he ostensibly supports us.

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>>8769962
Because hardly any of them are even considered transgender.

>It is difficult to estimate the number of transgender personnel in the military due to current policies and a lack of empirical data. Applying a range of prevalence estimates, combining data from multiple surveys, and adjusting for the male/female distribution in the military provided a midrange estimate of around 2,450 transgender personnel in the active component (out of a total number of approximately 1.3 million active-component service members) and 1,510 in the Selected Reserve.

>Only a subset will seek gender transition–related treatment. Estimates derived from survey data and private health insurance claims data indicate that, each year, between 29 and 129 service members in the active component will seek transition-related care that could disrupt their ability to deploy.

>>8770008
And to receive transition-related care you must be diagnosed with gender dysphoria and gender dysphoria usually comorbid with other mental illnesses and conditions like Depression and Autism.

>>8770008
Not seeking medical care for it doesn't make you not trans.

>>8770020
> and gender dysphoria usually comorbid with other mental illnesses and conditions like Depression and Autism

Completely false. Gender dysphoria has a statistically significant comorbidity with schizophrenia, but it certainly isn't "usually comorbid". I've never seen anything on autism or clinical depression, but if you know about that feel free to inform me.

As far as I can see, If someone can pass the necessary tests, they should be allowed to serve.

Does anyone know the official justifications given for the ban?

>>8768346
Why am I in this thread?

>>8768461
Always kill a traitor before an enemy

>>8768367
Fuck off transphobic ban evader

>>8769646
>Women need space away from men
So they joined the military, an organization that is almost entirely men?
How can TERFs be this retarded

>>8768346
We should be thanking him, OP. Now we get to let the cis people die for us, and we're not obligated to serve this shit country. So many wins for trans people this day.

>transwomen are not allowed to serve, but must sign up for the draft
>ciswomen are allowed to serve, but aren't required to sign up for the draft

Why y'all dragging this on when there's plenty of women backing out of the military because it's to tough for them. I don't think it's safe to have Trans or anyone transitioning while being in the military. The military wants the best of the best. During Vitenam, my grandfather was denied because he had a scar on his effing knee. Not to mention if you're to short, to weak you can't join either. Get over yourselves the world doesn't revolve around trans people & their feelings all the time

>>8772640
>Get over yourselves the world doesn't revolve around trans people & their feelings all the time

thats because society treats us like we arn't human. Get over yourself for being an evil cunt

>>8768550
>Trans have higher suicide rate
>Dilation

Now what ?

>>8769962

>Trump is happy to throw LGBT under the bus

No. He is rightfully and correctly throwing T under the bus and it has absolutely nothing to do with LGB.

>>8768837
>lifesitenews
>that botched abortion of a URL

>>8768842
If a woman is unable to give birth or menstruate, would you agree that she should be denied access to women's spaces? If not, how can you claim your argument has any legitimacy or inconsistency?

>>8768885
Are you okay in the head?

>>8769537
None of the credible arguments in favor of barring trans people from military service have to do with mental instability; gender dysphoria by itself is not regarded as a mental defect that makes one unable to serve. The stated issues are the logistical cost of ensuring the availability of HRT, and the high monetary cost of covering trans servicemembers' transition treatments.

>>8769646
What if the trans women are treated as a third sex by the military?

>>8769900
>Why would that be a better alternative? Duplicity isn't a good thing.
Neither is virtue signalling. Gender dysphoria is hardly the only medical condition that has those issues. Trump's announcement was either excessively clumsy, or carefully calculated to cause outrage (regardless of the validity of the underlying objectives).

>Learn English dumbass.
Not an argument.

>>8772619
Didn't they recently extent the draft to women? With a grandfather clause of course.

>>8772640
>The military wants the best of the best
Therefore they should get rid of categorical exclusions and hold soldiers up to a single competence standard.

>>8772774
>mfw T and LGB and support this and repealing gay marriage

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>>8768360

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>be a guy
>want to join military for free college
>see the military actually is physically demanding
>decide you're a girl
>breeze through training
>because there are different requirements for men and women

>>8772828
Transitioning is a pretty involved process, and if you actually are a guy, you'll end up regretting it and hating yourself. I would expect that the military only applies the transgender policies to those who have been actually diagnosed with dysphoria, so not only would you need to fake it well enough to be diagnosed, you'd have to keep up living full-time as a girl for a few years at least. I could see someone doing it for say $50 billion, but just for free college? If you really think it's a worthwhile trade-off, then you probably are trans to begin with and just haven't accepted it yet.

>>8772828
>have to prove you're actually trans
>not allowed any boy clothes because they'd raise suspicions
>take sugar pills every morning to pretend you're on hrt
>one day they get lost
>military doctor gets you replacements
>real replacements
>shit
>doctor gets suspicious at no breast growth
>take a tiny dose just to get a little bit of growth
>can just pass it off as fat afterwards
>except there's more than expected
>and now the doc's mentioning something about having booked you srs before the end of the year

>>8769646

That's the same argument used to keep lesbians out of heterosexual women's spaces. Guess what? That was based on prejudice and so is a trans ban.

Just like those hetero women had to, any woman that has a problem with this is going to have to grow up from holding prejudice.

>>8773333

>gay = trans

Not the same thing. One is a sexuality, the other is literally having biological men in women's spaces.

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>>8769539

>Queers on estrogen
>Lethal
Yeah, self-lethal more like.

>>8773410

It is the same thing.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TC1khYrggIs

Here's a video by an AMEDD recruiter telling women to get the fuck over the imaginary risk of having their parts ogled by lesbians. One, because it's prejudiced, two, because it's conceited to think people don't have more to worry about than checking you out in the shower.

>>8768360
Ok Caitlyn Jenner

>>8773607
just as long as you enjoy no replies (face it, every thread you post on here is dead) and changing your ip every day

>>8773612
still pretty alive fampai

>>8773333
>That's the same argument used to keep lesbians out of heterosexual women's spaces.
I wish more people did argue that, then maybe TERFs would think twice.

It's reasonable to have a ban on them actually serving on the field due to various requirements, but things like logistics and paper pushing shit should be fine.

>>8768346
Oh no! Now I'll never be able to live my dream of killing brown children for the oil industry!