AGP seems to be running in my family. My 9yo cousin is very masculine

>>8736168
Everything tends to be genetic, so AGP probably is too.

I kinda want to survey a bunch of siblings to see how much it runs in families. (Obviously, this wouldn't separate shared environmental from genetically heritable effects, but could still be interesting.)

>>8736790
I've accidentally found out my brother is agp from his internet history and I'm gay(maybe bi) and pretty agp-ish

>>8736168
>he now wants to cosplay as Historia Reiss from AoT.
>AGP!!!
really?

My dad and I both have AGP.

From what I read so far, homosexuality runs in families. One theory is the "gay uncle" theory that partly explains this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation#Gay_uncle_hypothesis

>>8737063
Yes. He is a very masculine boy.
He only likes Historia because I explained to him that Eren would need to touch her to access his coordinate power.
Him and his goofy-ass brother talked about how Eren needs to touch her pussy to get more power.
Not even joking, he started liking her after that dirty talk.

>>8736790
>>8737076
If this is actually genetic, then I'm proud of my AGP genes.
We really do need an AGP ethno-state to preserve our heritage.

Being a functional AGP that likes to express it through fantasy, video games and art is pretty cool.

>>8736790
What about hsts with agp siblings?

>>8737038
*Actually* gay, or meta-attracted?

>>8737076
My (gay) brother is AAP, so there's another anecdote of correlation.

>>8737109
What's the point of an AGP ethnostate if we don't even early-transition all the AGP kids?

>>8737110
Blanchardism is mosty disproved if HSTS (MtF) is genetically associated with AGP.

(Trent claims HSTS (FtM) is genetically associated with AAP for Reasons, but I think he's wrong.)

>>8737244
>My (gay) brother is AAP,
How AAP?

>(Trent claims HSTS (FtM) is genetically associated with AAP for Reasons,
Wait what?

>>8736168
Quick! Tell him to stop fapping and start living before he becomes a tranny!

>>8737263
Don't listen to curehons! Reression has no proven benefits!

>>8737257
>How AAP?
He says he's slightly less autoandrophilic than alloandrophilic.

>Wait what?
He thinks mothers of HSTS trans men seem AAP-y ('not like other girls', very tomboyish into adulthood, but still very feminine in ways HSTS-spectrum people wouldn't be; bisexual-but-has-only-dated-men).

>>8737244
What if I'm HSTS mtf with an AAP ftm brother?

>>8737244
>What's the point of an AGP ethnostate if we don't even early-transition all the AGP kids?
To preserve AGP as a whole. We can also create an unique AGP culture, just imagine that.

>>8737297
I'm generally skeptical of trans women who claim they're HSTS on /tttt/, but even if you are, one anecdote does not establish a correlation.

Actually, now that I think of it, there might be genes which lower your general mental stability and through this can increase the chance of both HSTS and AGP, so Blanchardism isn't necessarily dead just because of a correlation. But if there are genes that don't break your brain but cause both, then that's significant evidence against Blanchard.

>>8737306
An AGP ethnostate could put enough resources into developing tradwombs and related tech that we could trans the AGP kids and still preserve AGP.

>>8737313
> Blanchardism isn't necessarily dead
Who cares about his model.
AGP is a real phenomena, that's all I care about.

>>8737322
Or we could genetically engineer kids to be actual AGP cis girls.
That would be the ultimate AGP victory.

>>8737306
>We can also create an unique AGP culture, just imagine that.
What would it be like?

>>8737336
T H I S
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>>8737306
What would an agp unique culture even look like? With no cis women there's no gender role to imprint on, you can't cross dress if there's only one gender

>>8737244
>Blanchardism is mosty disproved if HSTS (MtF) is genetically associated with AGP.
I think your theory's dumb but not necessarily. Some aspects of femininity can be inherited so if those run in the family along with homosexuality you'll get more "HSTSs".

It's wrong for other reasons tho

>>8737313
>who claim they're HSTS on /tttt/

Either you or someone mimicking you told me I was HSTS once on here once.
>one anecdote does not establish a correlation
I wasn't trying to prove anything, was just curious if you had any thoughts on me and my brother or if it's likely just coincidence.

>>8737337
Very feminine and cute

>>8737336
What's the point of an AGP ethnostate if it's not filled with qt dickgirls?

I guess as long as you preserve the cool AGP mental traits (ultra-nerdy computer programmer, etc.), then it's still pretty good.

>>8737294
>He says he's slightly less autoandrophilic than alloandrophilic.
How can someone even judge that ratio?

>He thinks mothers of HSTS trans men seem AAP-y
Hm. I'm curious to see the data but it sounds like it could just be coincidence or a partial-HSTS kind of GNC.

Why don't you believe that?

>but still very feminine in ways HSTS-spectrum people wouldn't be
What way, besides bisexuality?

>>8737350
I don't think I've ever told anyone except Kitty that they're HSTS here. I may be wrong though.

>>8737345
Add this to the list of problems that are solved in my proposal.

>>8737345
We'd still have men to date and dress differently from.

>>8737337
>>8737345
We would have cis women there.
Women who are very likely to carry AGP genes would be welcome in our state.
These would be women with more than one AGP in tgeir families.

AGP culture would consist of a lot of things.
Books, movies, shows and other entertainment would often have AGP elements to it, guys turned into girls, traps etc.
You would see a lot of "crossdressers", traps and trannies on the streets.
Guys would look up to strong female characters from animated shows.

>>8737313
>there might be genes which lower your general mental stability

That's not how mental stability works. There ARE genes that *predispose* you to developing a condition later on, but this often has no impact on mental stability premorbid (bipolars function above and beyond neurotypicals in school and social life before they collapse into illness). What would impact mental stability is sensitivity to androgens, which is set by prenatal exposure to testosterone.

>>8737356
>>8737373
The ethno-state's main purpose would to bring us together.
We would be proud and powerful.
It would also make life much more awesome for us. It would not be ideal, but much better than nothing.

Spoiler: an AGP civilization could not exist for any length of time because AGP is formed as a violent reaction to shame. This is why actually presenting as a woman 24/7 kills it over time. Even the most ardent of Blanchard supporters think that it at least severely drops in potency to the point where individuals might not notice that they have it.

Normalizing AGP quells AGP.

>>8737364
Ah, my wrong then. I just assumed you're the same person who used to always like to play 20+ questions to figure out if someone's hsts/agp whenever they make a thread about being trans. Regardless I'd still like your opinion on whether or not me and my brother are just coincidence. I often worry that he only started expressing dysphoria after I'd came out and I worry that maybe I like kickstarted that or something and he'd just be a regular cis girl if it weren't for me.

>>8737398
I'm proud of my AGP though.

>>8737398
> because AGP is formed as a violent reaction to shame. This is why actually presenting as a woman 24/7 kills it over time.
Sauce on this?

Cureanon, did you hear this. We've found the cure.

>>8737416
It's just a theory and also it's wrong.

>>8737410
Don't know what to tell you then my senpai. Maybe there are multiple paths to developing AGP. I think that this is typically how it is developed (at least in trans people) and that ambient shame and masturbation maintain it later on. Normalizing womanhood makes womanhood hard to fetishize.

What do you think is behind how you feel?

>>8737416
No sauce on the violent reaction to shame since it's a theory, but there are tons and tons of anecdotes about how medically and socially transitioning for long enough makes you stop being AGP. Of the /agpg/ transitioners most said it happened to them.

>Cureanon, did you hear this. We've found the cure.
We've told her this many, many times. "Don't trap yourself!" was her response.

>>8737038
>from his internet history
What did you see?

>and I'm gay(maybe bi) and pretty agp-ish
Elaborate?

>>8737444
>What do you think is behind how you feel?

I think most AGPs think that being female is easymode and when they actually do it they begin to understand how difficult it really is.

>>8737358
>How can someone even judge that ratio?
He didn't seem super confident.

>Hm. I'm curious to see the data but it sounds like it could just be coincidence or a partial-HSTS kind of GNC.
I think he thinks it's a general pattern, so not a coincidence.

>Why don't you believe that?
I haven't seen the evidence Trent has seen, and I don't trust him enough (sorry Trent!) to take him at his word.

>What way, besides bisexuality?
This is kind of embarrassing, because I'm bad at understanding cognitive sexual dimorphism. (It's a miracle that I've noticed it enough to be a Blanchardian...)

Anyway, there are various kinds of things. Career choices. Thought patterns. Stuff.

>>8737378
Are you sure this is *always* the case?

>>8737398
>Even the most ardent of Blanchard supporters think that it at least severely drops in potency to the point where individuals might not notice that they have it.
I disagree, I think the drop in potency has more to do with the reduction in sex drive from HRT.

>>8737400
I think it's very possible that your brother might just have been a regular cis girl if it weren't for you. There does seem to be a pattern where people are more likely to transition if people close to them are trans.

I've recently been writing about how knowledge of sexual dimorphism might be a requirement for dysphoria, and I think this could explain the """contagion"""-like effects. If someone you know is trans, then you consider whether you are trans, which leads you to examine how comfortable you are with your body, which makes you apply knowledge of sexual dimorphism and become dysphoric.

This is almost certainly an irreversible effect; you don't just *forget* this kind of thing.

>>8737491
I don't understand how that relates to the question.

>>8737493
>I disagree, I think the drop in potency has more to do with the reduction in sex drive from HRT.
Why do boymode repressors on HRT still experience AGP?

>>8737507
>Why do boymode repressors on HRT still experience AGP?
I don't think it generally goes away. Just becomes weaker.

>>8737513
Lawrence argued that people are not lying when they say they think it's gone, arguing that it is reduced to such a level that it is very easy to genuinely not notice it. Do you agree with her? If not, what is your alternative? Do you think all such individuals are actually lying about no longer experiencing AGP?

>>8737444
>What do you think is behind how you feel?
Natural variation in sexuality.

>>8737528
I see. I guess it's reasonable to believe that the same point can be reached via multiple routes.

>>8737517
Lying is a very subtle concept sometimes.

Generally, the AGP is reduced together with the sex drive. You'd have to be really bad at noticing things to not think "hm, maybe my AGP isn't actually gone, since it's actually my entire sexuality that has been reduced". It is probably for status reasons that they're not noticing this... but even though that is in some sense "lying", it isn't *conscious* lying.

I'd be really interested in getting a bunch of cooperative supposedly-no-longer-AGP trans women together so I can test my various thoughts, but this is not easy to set up and I also have to do other things (surveys, etc.).

>>8737493
>He didn't seem super confident.
But how did he judge?

>I'm bad at understanding cognitive sexual dimorphism.
Because you're AGP or something, or unrelated?

>Anyway, there are various kinds of things. Career choices. Thought patterns. Stuff.
Ok but in as much as Trent has explained it, what stuff?

>>8737551
>But how did he judge?
I dunno. Can't ask him right now.

>Because you're AGP or something, or unrelated?
Because I'm bad at people and social things.

>Ok but in as much as Trent has explained it, what stuff?
Trent didn't give concrete examples.

>>8737542
What thoughts and how would you test them?

>>8737542
>since it's actually my entire sexuality that has been reduced
This is not always the case though. Some only become more sexually active after transitioning. Hell, some only become sexually active after transitioning.

The /agpg/ posters did this in an anonymous setting, on 4chan, after saying a bunch of status-reducing things. One said she didn't experience dysphoria. Another said she was on /d/ since she was like 12 and obsessively masturbated to transformation porn.

In short I think dismissing all of these cases as misreporting is just not acceptable. In Bayesian terms the odds are pretty low. You'd have to bet on me getting bad data from trolls (though I tend to be good at identifying trolls and I senses that they weren't).

>>8737491
I think that's backwards - the belief that it's easymode comes from searching for a basis for the core desire to be female.

I mean, I know full well how irrational it is as a whole, but my mind keeps fixating on specific narrow aspects that women have it better.

>>8737574
>I dunno. Can't ask him right now.
I question whether reports of gay AAP and lesbian AGP are just misinterpretations, the same way AGPs can think they're allosexual at first.

>Trent didn't give concrete examples.
Would you ask him to read this thread and present his view?

>>8737578
There's the things I wrote in that post, and then I also think some trans women might have a too narrow view of what exactly AGP is. How much "my AGP has gone away" is really "my transvestic AGP has gone away", for example? A lot, I think.

>>8737583
This is why I want to get a bunch of supposedly-no-longer-AGP trans women together. If I'm right, I better be able to show it.

>>8737612
>I question whether reports of gay AAP and lesbian AGP are just misinterpretations, the same way AGPs can think they're allosexual at first.
Why?

>Would you ask him to read this thread and present his view?
Sure.

Sorry im not here often, dafuq is AGP?

>>8737622
>Why?
It's the kind of thing an individual would misjudge, like cis women saying they experience the same as AGPs, and it's the kind of thing that's hard to distinguish, the same as AGP sometimes being hard to separate from allogynephilia.

>>8736168
let him figure himself out
maybe try to show him that there are people who are trans who arent like.. charicatures and live happy lives. and there are people that arent trans but dress and do what they want that are happy too.
hormone blockers are an option if he wants it and expression doesnt always have to be his identity.
people never stop growing and changing.

he could just be comfortable in his masculinity, and like expressing his feminine side. idk.

>>8737887
Well, I'm a non-transitioning AGP.
I feel like this is the best choice for most AGPs.
In my particular case, transitioning would fulfill that something that otherwise can't be fulfilled, but it would create tons of problems and downsides that it's just not worth it.

I'll just ask him certain questions and suggest some things to him.
His reactions will show me what he really likes in a subtle way.
Let's not forget that AGP only becomes rampant in puberty, so these are just early signs.

>>8736168
Do you think every male interested in feminine shit must be sexually attracted to it?

>>8739323
No, but considering how masculine he is for his age and the fact that I'm an AGP, it would be a good assumption to make.

>>8736168
What does AGP mean anyway?

>>8737635
>>8739549
Instead or in addition to finding having sex with girls hot, AGPs find (the fantasy of; most AGPs are 'cis' men) *being* a girl hot.

In extreme cases, it leads to gender dysphoria. Most trans women transitioned because of AGP.

>>8739549
It's discredited psudeo-science, the only people who take it seriously are terfs, religious people and wannabe scientists on /lgbt/

>>8739554
>In extreme cases, it leads to gender dysphoria. Most trans women transitioned because of AGP.
Prove it.

>>8739549
Autogynephilia, the love of oneself as a woman.
AGPs get turned on by the thought of being a woman.
It is mostly sexual but it creates emotional effects too.

It's much more complicated and subtle than that, but those are the basics.

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>>8736168
yall know alot of trans communities will lock you out if they think you're an agp there to talk about feminization being cool.

agp = freedom to chose. your body your choice.

hsts = iranian option for gays.

the funny shit is hsts will apply for hrt by saying 'ive always felt i'm a girl i wana be a girl' even though they're just lying coz they want the iranian option. and now the field is having to fight to legitimize agp lol.

and in the meantime, people with actual medical issues get ZERO voice to space to discuss them to spread awareness at large about how hormones change us.

also, hsts believe in stealth. they wont out themselves, even if they see some agp kid being self destructive, they wont inform that repression/hrt is real. would u want to date someone who valued their stealth more than telling you about the same therapy they went through???????????????

agp are loud as fuck about being men with lactating boobs. zero censorship. my kinda grills.

>inb4 this isn't personal experience that i'm still salty about.

>>8739675
I hope you know this distinction doesn't exist in real life. Actual healthcare professionals don't believe in AGP vs HSTS, a crazy fringe aside. The DSM absent-mindedly mentions how erotic fantasies of becoming a woman are common in late onset transitioners and that's that. The condition is considered to be fundamentally the same.

>>8739675
So the HSTS have screwed over AGPs by causing them, actual trans people, to get gatekept for not matching fake/gnc gay childhood narratives.

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>>8736168
I sexually identify as Historia Reiss.

>>8737085
>9 year old
>very masculine

I bet he wouldn't pass if he started hrt now!

>>8740553
Well, he is psychologically masculine.
He is skinny, but strong and you can actually see his abs.
Very boyish.

>>8740558
yaa cuz all transgirls have always been girly girls ever since they were 4, yes?

>>8740558
Do you want to fuck him?

>>8740565
He likes sports, fighting, monsters, etc.
Everything masculine he likes.

>>8740573
yaaa unlike you the truest of transwomen, who always only liked girly stuff, and dressed in pink and grew zer hair shoulder long at the age of 8

>>8740569
No. I'm actually a bit weirded out by that question.
Congrats, it's hard to weird out a regular 4chan user.

>>8740578
HSTSs do that.
AGPs are like him.

>>8740580
come on, touch his manly abs. see where else he has muscles.

buy him historia cosplay, tell him to change in your presence under some excuse then fuck him like a woman

>>8736168
That's too bad.

HSTS runs in my family but it resulted in my half uncle murder-suiciding his mother after being disowned by my grandfather.

>>8740595
You do realise he's 9, right?

>>8740597
How do you know he was HSTS?

>>8740597
Family fun time.

I knew it, all hons are psychos.
Hon genocide now.

>>8740610
yes, but the question is, can he get erect and how aware is he of sexuality

with luck you can play with him a bit without him suspecting any sexual intention on your part

>>8740615
All I know about him is that he was very gay and that after a couple of years of being very depressed (after my grandpa disowned him) because he wasn't accepted he killed his mom and then himself.

I'm kind of making an assumption. At the very least he was gay and suicidal, but I feel like HSTS and suicidal is a bit more likely considering the rest of my family. My dad is also very effeminate, but he copes with it by being extremely transphobic and homophobic.

>>8740617
> I knew it, all hons are psychos.
Wew who knows if he was even a hon yet, he was in his mid-20s at the time. I think effeminacy, recklessness, and hatred of others/self just runs in the family.

t. Reckless self-hating effeminate who's transitioning.

>>8740628
>but he copes with it by being extremely transphobic and homophobic.
Sad. How has that affected you?

>>8740624
But there is no sexual intention on my part.
I would like to cosplay as female characters with him.
I can show him the ways of AGP.
That's pretty much it.

>>8740643
Well I grew up with him continuously accusing me of being gay (but I think that's normal for a "straight" dad?) because I took up knitting and I liked cooking with my mom and imitating her, but it took me until the middle of high school to realize I was just listening to what he was saying instead of thinking for myself (he's very controlling).

Strangely in the past 5 years or so he started making jokes about being bi and liking little boys so I'd say he is progressively getting stranger after repressing for so long -- he could also just be trying to fuck with me, but I doubt it -- I also don't know if he always did and I'm just noticing it now, but my mom has confirmed he's getting weird.

His transphobia also kept me from thinking I might be trans and I feared trans people instead. I have a memory of going on vacation with my family at around 12 (which is around the time I was talking to my brother about trans shit) and for whatever reason we bumped into trans people and he called them he-shes with the worst tone of disgust I'd ever heard -- his attitude kept me in the closet longer because of fear and again just internalizing it.

The funny thing is this year my mom told me that the only reason she liked him in the first place is because she thinks my dad is effeminate. I've talked about the shit my dad does to friends and they've told me he acts like a woman in her 30s.

So now I suppose I've become what I feared most and I'm transitioning in college to avoid him finding out. They're moving out of the area next year and I'm hoping I never have to see him again so we can end on good terms. My brother and sister are depressed as well because of how he treated them separately from his attitudes to other people and I hope they're free soon too. My sister at least has another two years to deal with and he continues to beat her.

>>8739710
The DSM is wrong.

>>8740717
what's the truth then and why did you make me ask and not just tell us in the same post

>>8740644
>tfw no older transgirl relative to have showed you the ways of agp as a kid

>>8740724
>transgirl relative
I present as male.
I just like to express my AGP every once in a while.

No one brought up that anime made him AGP...
Well, maybe it did. You know that crazy shit fucks with people's brains, especially kids'.

>>8736168
Call Blanchard!

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>>8736790
arent you the one who made a total joke of AGP with your survey showing that up to 50% of cis people have it

A lot--and I mean a LOT-- of straight boys go through an effeminate phase at some point, usually during childhood.

If you think your cousin is trans just because he wants to cosplay as Historia Reiss, you're a retard

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>>8741655
It's probably somewhat less than 50%, but yes, I did find a lot of A*P.

I'm not convinced this is making a total joke of it, considering it is still associated with wanting to be the opposite sex among cis people, with a strong connection between intensity of A*P and intensity of wanting to be the opposite sex.

There's lots of options for why only few A*P people are trans. For example, perhaps intensity or exclusivity of A*P matters a lot. The things my surveys treat as "very" A*P would *probably* be treated as "slightly" A*P in trans contexts.

>>8741659
>A lot--and I mean a LOT-- of straight boys go through an effeminate phase at some point, usually during childhood.
I call bullshit.
I, as an AGP didn't go through any particular phase like that. Also, none of my straight friends did.
>If you think your cousin is trans just because he wants to cosplay as Historia Reiss, you're a retard
Who said he was trans?
I don't use hon language. All I said was that he's probably an AGP.
Not all AGPs are extreme nor do they pop skittles and become hons.

>>8741712
either AGP is a complete joke and a totally normal fantasy that has nothing to do with being transgender and should never be a basis of anything

or your survey is

pick one

>>8742210
or your post is.

I pick that one.

>>8741712
or maybe your results are right and half of the "men" are constantly angry and violent because they're sad they can't be AGP in peace

>>8742269
Someone who fantasizes about being a girl once in a while is not likely to actually want to be a girl, but he'd still be considered AGP.

>>8742210
Or there's a lot of variance in the intensity of the AGP.

>>8744566
Or maybe people who want to be women are more likely to be more intensely AGP..

>>8744626
Well, cis women are not AGP.
AGP is a form of sexuality.

You can still be an AGP and want to have sex with girls.
This would make you something between a pure AGP and a refular straight dude.
The same way being bi is between being straight and gay.

We can call all men who experience this AGPs for convenience reasons.
Pure AGPs seem to be way less common.

>>8745486
how do i tell if i'm part straight or pure agp?

>>8745486
Personally I view AGP as a sort of a fetish

>>8745514
Do you want to fuck girls?
>>8745516
My AGP is like a "macro fetish". A lot of other fetishes stem from it.
It could be seen as a sexuality.

>>8745552
>Do you want to fuck girls?
not really. i'd make out with one. but idk if i'm not realizing how straight i am.

>>8745581
Yeah, I can relate.
I don't really want to fuck girls either.
The act of sticking my penis in then and dominating them just doesn't appeal much to me.

I do want to kiss them, cuddle with them, suck on their boobies, eat pussy, etc.

>>8745634
yes yes. although even eating pussy feels too far.

>>8737244
>What's the point of an AGP ethnostate if we don't even early-transition all the AGP kids?

You just want more people on "your" side. Do you think all AGPs want to transition?

>>8745665
Why? What do you mean too far?

>>8745691
>Do you think all AGPs want to transition?
Do you think any wouldn't if they had the chance early?

>>8745787
Even then transitioning won't really make you the opposite sex
And not all AGPs are uncomfortable in their bodies

>>8745787
If you include people who are only slightly AGP, then most wouldn't. I did a survey a while ago where I asked people whether they would've transitioned if they had the chance early.

>>8745787
Not them but yes. I think cis AGPs wouldn't, and that they def. exist.

>>8746259
The difference between cis and trans AGPs is subtle and vague.
We call 'trans' those that actually want to transition, no matter how intense their AGP may be.
We use terms 'cis' and 'trans' for convenience reasons and I don't really lile it.

If we could develop an AGP scale, how far on the AGP side would be "trans"?
You see what I'm trying to say here?

AGP is the same thing in all cases, even though it can be experienced differently and in different intensities.

No one is really trans or cis in my opinion.
These labels are rigid and don't hold up, especially when talking about something like AGP.

>>8746765
I think being AGP and being trans are two different things, though trans people are often AGP. What makes someone trans trans is gender dysphoria and the earnest desire to be a woman in day to day life. Dysphoria can be subtle. For example it could take the form of being depressed that your yearning for womanhood is unfulfilled. As I see it if someone is dysphoric and desires to be a woman they're trans whether they transition or not and whether they're AGP or not.

>>8746812
Well, maybe, I don't really know.
What about people who transition as pure AGPs?
What about those that start popping skittles to satisfy their "fetish"?

>>8736168
>tfw you have an HSTS family line

Why do transfags present themselves as non-sexual beings and AGP as "evil sexual predator who is only jealous of our privilege"?
Why do they think that AGP must mean that the person likes playing out their shit, e.g wants to be called female?

>>8746855
Honestly I don't know what to make of them. I ran into a few over my long time here and they seemed happy and not harmful to anyone so more power to them.

>>8747005
I've thought a lot abput popping skittles to get the body I want so I can basically have sex with myself.
The descision is no. For now.

>>8747027
Is it really just for sex, or are you at all interested in having that sort of body in day to day life, just to feel good about yourself?

>>8747037
Yes, but in a way that stems from sexuality too.
Almost like falling in love with yourself.
It's hard to explain how I really feel about it, but that's AGP.

>>8747093
To be honest I think that my view of AGP is very different from yours but I think that if you're unhappy with your body and want to have a female one then you're trans and should transition.

>>8747106
But I'm not really unhappy with it.
I just sometimes get these phases like 5-8 times a year, where I fantasize about havig a feminine body for multiple days.
I don't care about most stuff, I just start craving the effects of skittles.
During these times I masturbate a lot and I experience emotions similar to falling in love woth someone you can't have or something like that.

I like the idea of popping skittles most of the time, but I also think it's probably not worth it, except in these periods of intense AGP.

>>8745777
too male i guess.

>>8739675
>yall know alot of trans communities will lock you out if they think you're an agp there to talk about feminization being cool.

which ones?

i came here because it's anonymous and safe but now i'm scared i'm picking up bad habits that will make other places shut me out

is AGP really not that common?
Or do most men get aroused by things like imagining themselves as women or wearing womens clothes more as humiliation vs pure AGP?
How can you tell which one you have?

>>8749257
>wanting to even be part of communities which don't accept you

>>8749301
if the alternative is not being part of any community at all...

even here i probably wouldn't be accepted if i had a name

>>8748481
It's definitely not too male.
Lesbians are most known for eating pussy.
Maybe you're into cuckolding and and want to be forbidden to touch your gf's pussy?