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Do you believe there is any truth to the idea some lesbians are

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Do you believe there is any truth to the idea some lesbians are just women that are just scared of men and they would be come 'more' straight if they made it with a proper man

Or that some gay men are just emasculated and would become less faggy if they manned the fuck up.

I believe both are true in some cases, not the majority, since the general consensus is that homosexuality is at least partially environmental it doesn't seem too outrageous.
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>>8728362
1950 called and wants it "theories" back
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>>8728362
Maybe a tiny percentage of feminazis that don't actually like women and pretend to be lesbians for political reasons. Other than that, no.
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As a cis het male, I know that all these 'Lesbians' need is a good long fuck with lots of hairpulling choking and spanking finished off with a creampie and they'll be converted.
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>just take the dicc dyke lol xD
>just man up fag lol xD
Back to Alabama with you, Cletus.
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>>8728575
You can't fight your instincts. Having a man on top and inside of you, getting filled with his thick cum will turn you on whether you admit it to yourself or not.
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>>8728566
>need is a good long fuck with lots of hairpulling choking and spanking finished off with a creampie
Wew
If lesbians straight out reject your proposal, can I take their place instead? I can roleplay as a lesbian if you want.
t. tranny
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>>8728602
That depends how well you pass/ how horny I am
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>>8728602
Well generally women don't "accept" proposals they want it forced on them like in their romance novels or otome games. They want a wealthy, attractive, and egotistical man such myself to force themself on them.

If you're a lesbian tranny than I'd have no problem "converting you" with my dick to be a straight tranny.
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>>8728628
>Well generally women don't "accept" proposals they want it forced on them like in their romance novels or otome games. They want a wealthy, attractive, and egotistical man such myself to force themself on them.

Is this... is this why forced-fem is so prominent among trannies?
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>>8728637
What's forced fem? A dude turning a tranny into a bimbo?
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>>8728593
>getting filled with his thick cum

what if he cut off his balls and he only produces a watery discharge?
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>>8728628
>such as myself

kek
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>>8728593
desu the very idea makes me want to vomit

men are pigs

this shit was a serious opinion for a long time, and you wonder why we hate men so often

I like women. I do not like men, and raping me will not change that.
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>>8728593
Enjoy your delusions, but that's not the reality. Most straight women barely enjoy having sex with men, what makes you think lesbians want to fuck you.
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>>8728649
forced fem is a man being forcibly feminized and emasculated. Made to wear dresses, be submissive, etc etc. It's a pretty gross fetish honestly but whatever
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>>8728661
I honestly feel bad for straight women

guys are fucking awful lovers. Maybe it's better with gays, but I dunno.

They don't know shit about our junk, they're disgusting smelling, don't know shit about foreplay, and they last like, what, 15 minutes of actual sex max?
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>>8728659
>>8728661
>>8728667
It must make you rage that big dumb smelly guys like me can please a woman far better than you ever could. Whilst you're awkwardly thrusting with your little plastic toy worrying about how much shes enjoying it, I'd have her choking pushed against a wall with her panties half pulled down fucking her like an animal.
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>>8728681
Th-that sounds hot...
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>>8728681
Don't you have anything better to do?
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>>8728651
Castration fantasies are also an aknowledge of penis worship. The only difference is that the penis represents an evil god

>>8728659
I am legitimately torn between my love for homoerotism and wanting to see two beautiful in a puerile, gentle, undisturbed embrace and my deep rooted masculinity that wants to rape both of you into being straight.

The only way I could get both is if all girls were bisexual.

>>8728667
How long do lesbians last? Imagine it's pretty hard to get off with that sort of equipment.

As for gay men. The prostate is incredible for both the receiving and giving end, it's a lot of work though and I can see why some guys don't bother with it. In terms of other forms of sex an average gay guy's skills with cock is comparable to the best women.

I think we bomb with foreplay.
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>>8728681

uh huh, sure
keep telling yourself that, champ
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>>8728702

well me and my gf can go for a pretty long time. Sometimes if we're in a rush and horny it'll be quick, but if we get a choice it's longer and more drawn out. Intensity is more sporadic, and there's a lot more gentle loving throughout it all. With sessions like that it pretty much just ends when we decide we actually have to be productive members of society and do something, or we get too hungry

as for the toys, not really. They make a lot of good toys now, so getting off isn't hard at all. And if you're using a strapon, you even get the same kind of motions you'd expect with heterosexual sex.
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>>8728706
Take it as advice because as much as you hate men, that's how women really want to get fucked, even if they lie to themselves
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>>8728681
Lmfao. While you're deluding yourself with your fantasies, maybe question why you as a straight man feel the need to troll LGBT forums.
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>>8728729
Then why don't straight women cum half of the time?
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>>8728724
virgin detected
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>>8728738
Never had straight sex but I'm going to take a guess that it has to do with most men being unfit.

If you're 30 pounds overweight, never played a sport in your life, you have no stamina and don't know how to motorize your body.
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>>8728738
Firstly, most women don't get fucked like that and secondly a lot require direct clitoral stimulation to cum
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>>8728745
Okay. I'm not trying to prove myself to anybody, I'm answering a question.
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>>8728724
Pacing doesn't sound too different from normal sex. I think everyone has longer better sexy and quickies.

The toys though. I could never get behind that. A big part of sex is psychological for me and plastic dicks do not have minds. I'd rather do ERP on flist and never touch my balls than work with plastic.

Only toy I really like is collars. God I love collaring a guy.
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>>8728755
>>8728748
I could say the exact same thing about you, and that all straight men just need to be fucked by a guy to realize they're gay. Just admit you're a moron and go back to /pol/.
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>>8728748
I think it's because men don't seem to understand the importance of clitoral stimulation

>>8728761
your description just sounds like somebody fantasizing about sex rather than actually having had it. Real sex pretty much never lasts hours long. A very good session might be like 30 minutes. I don't think you understand how intensive sex is.
maybe if you're really into foreplay and cuddling and you count those two as part of sex you'd reach an hour long, but otherwise nah
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>>8728774
The equivalence would be, a woman fucking a gay guy and making him straight and no, that wouldn't happen because it works like this. Men have a primal lust for women, women have a primal instinct of being taken by men. If a guy doesn't like chicks, he just doesn't. Unless you pump him full of test and viagra and he takes out his sexual rage on a young fertile fucktoy.
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>>8728774
Well I'm bi. So fucking me in the ass wouldn't change that. Men and woman's psychology is very different, I think orientation doesn't change it that much. I think women are psychologically designed to be submissive to men. Once you start looking at the pornography that various genders make for themself this becomes pretty apparent.
The writing that women make for themself is crazy dark. They literally fantasize about a powerful man raping them and giving them stockholm syndrome.
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friendly reminder to everyone: ignore /pol/ trolls. Do not respond to them.

Also, >>8728762 >>8728724

I think you guys are vastly overestimating your sex time. It's been found that the average sex time is around 7 minutes
http://www.medicaldaily.com/how-long-does-sex-last-average-time-penis-shape-381025
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>>8728800
that's straight sex

so what I'm getting from this is that straight sex is really hecking boring. You're with a fumbling guy who doesn't know how to pleasure you for 7 minutes until he finishes, then rolls over and falls asleep

How do straight women bear it?
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>>8728797
Then why is lesbian porn so popular with straight women? It's almost like porn is fantasy and most people don't actually want those fantasies to happen in real life.
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>>8728800
Its funny you think I'm /pol/ for having an ounce of testosterone in my system. Take it as advice for how to fuck girls so you don't end up with the legendary dead lesbian bedroom.
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>>8728809
It sounds to me the solution is to have a 3 way with 2 women and a man.
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I prefer women. This is my opinion and its not representative of anyone.
I think most women are fluid in sexuality. Yes you can change a lesbian to bisexual, at best, never straight. It doesn't involve rape or rough sex though. You just have to tick the right characteristics and they can find you attractive in a similar way they find men attractive. Most lesbians who become bi only like 1 guy, and the guy is usually sort of feminine. Lesbians do no like Chads and we never will desu. We envy Chads, like most beta males do.

The opposite is also true. Most straight women can be changed to bisexual, never lesbian. The girl just needs to tick the right characteristics. I'm a pretty beautiful women and literally every woman I've hit on, regardless of how straight they were or if they had boyfriends, were down for it, and really liked my attention. But when I hit on women, I usually put on a persona that's not really me, so I don't really enjoy it.

I just want a girl I can connect with emotionally.

Can't speak on the gay guys. I feel like gay guys are more rigid in their sexualities, but hearing about gay guys who sleep with women or have attraction to women is not uncommon, but it is less common than hearing lesbians who sex guys or are attracted to them.
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>>8728818
or
get this

3 way with no men
why would you willingly include a weaker chain?

If you absolutely need a penis, find a trans girl who doesn't mind using it.
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>>8728789
That makes no sense. Why would it be possible for a man "to just not like chicks" but not the other way around. You're like every redpill guy who doesn't actually talk to women and makes up elaborate theories on human behaviour without any actual basis in reality. Assuming you're not trolling, please get help. You have a very unhealthy view of women and relationships in general and I promise you arguing with people on LGBT boards won't fix your personal issues. Normal adjusted straight men don't feel the need to troll gay forums. That's all I'm gonna say, bye.
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>>8728829
Sounds like you feel sexually threatened by men.
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>>8728821
But they're not lesbians then. Just bi women that choose to repress their attraction to men.
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>>8728829
>find a unicorn

yeah, okay
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>>8728362
yeah some lesb are cause they have history of abuse

"faggy" as in manners? that has nothing to do with sexual orientation and likely a lot with brain feminization
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>>8728838
>that choose

being gay isn't a choice, nimrod
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>>8728838
If you want to go that route, then lesbians are literally non-existent. Most of real true lesbians are closeted FtM stone butches, and they are rare as fuck.
And you can also say that straight women are bi and repress their attraction to men.

But these categories were created by men who have rigid sexualities. Female sexuality is just not like that. Labels don't work for us. That's why its mostly women coming up with these ridiculous labels, or saying they simply have no label. That's how it really is for us.
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>>8728844
feminine mannerisms are learned from female caregivers.
it has nothing to do with brain feminization
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>>8728844
Lesbians actually have the lowest rates of sexual abuse, with gay/bi men being the highest.
Also, masculinization of the brain is observed in lesbians and feminization in gay men.
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>>8728846
So you're saying sexuality for women is fluid? Do you suppose that's innate or a product of culture.

What I mean is this. If a women shows interest in other women guys really don't take that as a negative. I would LOVE if I had a girl that would casually remark about how she thinks some other girl is attractive. A guy being fluid though has bigger ramifications. Being attracted to other men is a sign of weakness, less so if you want to be the top.
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>>8728857
[citation needed]
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>>8728880
It's innate. So is the idea of men being pleased with bi women. These phenomena came into existence because of past circumstances that our ancestors had.
A bi woman married to a man who has a harem won't be as jealous and will enjoy having sex with women. A straight woman will be just resentful and angry that he has other women.
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>>8728851
>female mannerisms are learned
No they're not. I was raised by females only and I act masculine as fuck simply because I have a fuckload of testosterone in my body.
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>>8728899
you do realize that simply being raised by females only doesn't man you haven't learned masculine mannerisms from everybody outside of that group?

If you're interacting with society at all, even just for school, you're learning from elsewhere
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>>8728892
>A bi woman married to a man who has a harem won't be as jealous and will enjoy having sex with women.

Men actually believe this.
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>>8728911
You said "caregivers". Futhermore, feminine and masculine behaviors are hardwired into your brain. This is why even male monkeys will play with cars and female monkeys with play with dolls.
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>>8728921
I'm a woman and I believe this. We are talking primitive society. Actually a lesbian leaning woman would be the best candidate.
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>>8728923
I never said caregivers, I'm not the anon you responded to
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>>8728995
Fuck off then.
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>>8728999
no u
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>>8728923
>feminine and masculine behaviors are hardwired into your brain
[citation needed]

If is were hardwired then why can I choose to act feminine or masculine depending on my mood?
Wouldn't hardwired mean I could only act one way or the other?
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>>8729037
You're hardwired to be able to do both then. You probably have an equal level of masculine and feminine energy.
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>>8729045
that's the most hippy bullshit I've heard today

go hug a tree
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>>8729037
>citation needed
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/homo-consumericus/201212/sex-specific-toy-preferences-learned-or-innate
>why can I choose to act feminine or masculine depending on my mood?
You can't.
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>>8728892
I had a similar thought about why gay men exist.

A gay man is basically someone the alpha male can let into their inner circle and he won't fuck his women.

Statistically speaking in primitive societies only 1/4 men had children and the one's that did had multiple women. So in this scenario you can imagine that a straight man would actually be worst for society than a gay man. Any gay man will tell you he knows how to live a productive life without having children.

Bisexual men I have to two theroies about. One is that that it's just something develops as a type of social bonding. The other is that bi guys exploit the system, it's a stealth tactic for reproducing where you act like a faggot to get into the alpha's harem and fuck his women. In a society that has primitive birth control and poor genetics work it's a lot harder to tell who's child it is.

As a bi guy myself I kind of learned that I can gain all sorts of advantages by lying about my orientation.

>>8728934
Why would a lesbian be a good leader? And is that what happens in a hen house?
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>>8729079
>Why would a lesbian be a good leader? And is that what happens in a hen house?
Because they would have less attachment to their man, so they would have virtually no problem with him having multiple women and would probably help him to get them. She probably could help him in fending off other guys from his harem too, since she's mostly for the women.
Well, I don't know, but I know that a shitton of female pimps are lesbians or close to it.
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>>8729061
So what is happening in this video at the 1:30 mark?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuqr22c990s

Shouldn't this be "impossible" according to your theory?
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>>8729097
I really want to live in a primitive society in which all sexual orientations have some role.

Come to think of it lesbians can still reproduce in a harem. They just wouldn't be attached to the man.
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>>8728593
yep. gay, straight, lesbian, or whatever else, everyone loves a healthy serving of dick from a man on top.
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>>8729114
>Jake Gylenhaal
Not going to watch your shitty Ameriblob media, sorry. Either argue your point with evidence or scram.
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>>8729136
Women are biologically programmed to. You might hate men enough to not enjoy it, but it will turn you on.
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>>8729216
Are you gonna say that gay men love tits and pussy too?
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>>8729216
Delicious hate-sex.
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>>8729225
>mfw at the thought of eating

Everyone loves breasts though. They are the source of life.
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>>8729163
If you can convince a gay guy to like pussy you deserve a nobel prize.
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>>8729079
1/4 of men

i thought humans had twice as many female ancestors as male, not 4 times as many
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>>8729240
meant for >>8729225
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>>8729251
It's okay, I'm both those anons.
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>>8729144
It's a masculine guy acting feminine.
Your opinion is discarded.
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>>8729242
Well I have no citation so I don't know.

Point is in primitive society there are a lot of men who will never reproduce. In same ways being attracted to women is a liability. Let's say the local warlord has his harem. He needs to leave to go to a local war or he just wants to hang out with some friends over the week-end. The best candidates to be in his inner circle, near his women, are unics and gay men. And in unics have severe limitations...plus it's not something anyone would want to volunteer for.
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>>8729114
Illuminati initiation
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>>8729262
>your opinion is discared because you refuse watch some meme video of an actor
Get gassed.
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>>8729266
>i don't have a citation so I don't know

that much is obvious
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>>8729116
men to keep the women pregnant, lesbians to have their way with the women and keep the harem in line. gays to keep the lesbians from rebelling, and to have each other. regular reinforcements of rape to keep the whole system running smoothly with an occasional hopeful dicking for gays from (bi) men to keep them invested too.
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>>8729225
Not vaginas but tits yes.
Boobs and dicks are universally loved in some form or another.
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>>8729306
reading comprehension 3/10
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>>8729355
>dicks
>universally loved
>lesbians disgusted by them more than anything else
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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>>8729387
Lesbians use strap-ons and fake dicks all the time, for fucks sake.
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>>8729387
>inb4 "but they use dildos!"

dildos aren't dicks, much in the way that a squirt gun is not an actual firearm, despite similarities in appearance
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>>8729397
dang, I wasn't inb4

but gosh dang if I didn't get the argument exactly down. These people are so predictable
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>>8729393
as long as the dildo isn't one of those realistic freakish looking ones, I'm okay with it.
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>>8729405

even those don't bother me, though I much prefer ones that don't look like dick

really I just don't like the man attached to the dick
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>>8729408
Pretty much this. I don't like male bodies, I don't like how guys smell, I have no attraction to men. Dick disgusts me in real life. The thought of touching one literally makes me want to vomit. But fake ones don't bother me at all. I like getting fucked as long as it's attached to a girl.
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>>8729421
This.
I'm a cis gay man and I'm repulsed by vaginas and women in general but I have no problem fucking a fleshlight.
I think pheremones play a bigger role than we imagine.
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>>8729408

How do you feel about trans women? (No I'm not saying that you're obligated to find them attractive, or that you're a bigot if you don't or whatever. I'm just curious since you said you just don't like the man attached to the dick)
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>>8729464
t. cuckold
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>>8729464

personally, I like them

for me, it isn't the dick which I dislike (though, once again, I prefer vagina so a post op trans girl would be better than a pre op), it's the whole man thing attached to it

I've had a trans gf, and I didn't really see the dick as anything more than a really realistic strapon

so assuming the trans girl passes, me being attracted to them definitely isn't out of question

some people will disagree though, and I respect that. can't force attraction
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>>8729405
That's true. I hate those veiny looking ones that look like real dicks. The veins specifically are absolutely disgusting.
I like those curved and ridged dildos.
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>>8729481
Because vaginas don't have veins.
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>>8729508
Not in the same way they don't. Yes, there are veins- but they don't bulge out like a popping eye.
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>>8729508
It's not even close to the same thing. You can barely see veins on a vagina. On dicks they're like long tributaries.
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>>8729421
> I don't like male bodies, I don't like how guys smell

Hormonial attraction is determined by scent.

The scent of a man, especially dick arouses me so much. Even my own dick I like the scent.

>>8729542
Those monster cocks you see in porn are not represantive of real dicks. My bf has a dick comparable to porn stars and he doesn't have veins like that. Porn stars have all sorts of drugs and pills that make their dick ridiculously hard even if they arn't aroused. I'm told it's painful sometimes.

Real dicks are beautiful, especially when the pubic hair is soft.
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why is it only guys who are like "no no no, if you had the real thing you'd actually like it!"

I've never heard a gay woman say "I love vaginas so much. If you saw an actual vagina, you'd love it too"
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>>8729646
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>>8729646
>The scent of a man, especially dick arouses me so much.

Yeah, I'm the exact opposite. I love the scent of pussy and women in general. Strange how scent is such a big factor in attraction.
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>>8728362
I would say that there are some instances where people end up assuming a homosexual lifestyle because of their personal history. Though I would say that if they can slip into it naturally then they were either homosexual, or at the very least bisexual, to begin with.

Someone would have to be pretty damaged to pursue romantic relationships with people they're not physically attracted to whatsoever. I'm sure people like that exist too, as I've talked to people who said they lived lives like that for a while, but I imagine that they're a very small minority.

>all the denial in this thread
OP said they weren't implying they were the majority right from the start. Literally nobody here is arguing that this is true for most cases, just in some cases.

>>8729387
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26501187

It's not something I would assert with any certainty, but it's not something to dismiss offhand.
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>>8729695
Makes perfect sense biologically. You can't hear hormones, visual aspects vary from culture to culture even genetically. The other senses (touch, taste) can't be used from a distance. But hormones smell the same across all cultures.

Think it's cool that you as a lesbian fit so well in other side of the spectrum. Does your own scent turn you on sometimes?
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>>8728821
>hearing about gay guys who sleep with women or have attraction to women is not uncommon, but it is less common than hearing lesbians who sex guys or are attracted to them.

to be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if the actual numbers of these two were pretty close, but there's far more gay men that are willing to admit to enjoying sex with women then lesbians and sex with men. There's literally no stigma involved with a gay man engaging in hetro sex, meanwhile a lesbian will probably be shunned out from groups/friends (gold star, bishit, etc)
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>>8729709
Not that poster, but I started questioning my sexuality when I realized I was immensely turned on by my own scent. I made the mistake of asking my straight friends if they did it too and got a lot of weird looks.
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>>8729743
Man lesbians are awesome. You're like my sister or something.
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>>8729743
I would say that kind of stuff might just be learned behavior for most people.

That is to say, that over time it's possible to train your brain to associate your own scent with arousal and pleasure provided that you don't have an automatic disgust response to it.
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>>8729709
Yeah, sometimes. I figured it was just because I'm slightly narcissistic but maybe there's more to it than that.
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>>8728362
I think there are probably some women who have been conditioned to not like men based on most straight men being awful, at least in their experiences. But I don't think this makes them less valid in whatever their sexuality is though.
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>>8728362

Yes I agree with you. I can't remember where I saw the report but there's a study showing high rates of pregnancies in women identifying as lesbians.. Couldn't stay away from the D.
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>>8729767
Wow you're narcissistic too?

Curious what do you look for in a partner in terms of how similar they are to you? If you like both genders are they different
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>>8728748
t. a fat dyke
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>>8729810
Nope, only into girls. My type kind of depends. I'm really into older women, and I wouldn't say I have a specific type looks-wise for that age group. But when it comes to girls my age / personality I'm usually into ones that are very similar to me. There are exceptions though. What about you anon?
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>>8730177
Into both but almost no experience dating women.

It actually took me awhile to figure out what I'd want in a woman. I'd want someone a bit like me in terms of masculinity and directness. I met a girl like that once, she was very bullish, very brutish and my mind just naturally sunk into this mode where I acted somewhat effiminate in a kind of bitchy way. It just became a routine for us and I think we both liked it even though 90% of our talking was butting heads. God she was cool, would have married into money.

I have a huge weakness for I guess the term is "white-knight" like some girl that's emotionally vunerable and younger than me. I can't imagine that would be something to base a long-term relationship on though.

For guys I want someone like me, it's really that simple. When I was younger I experimented with sexual fantasies about self-cest and I had a huge love for slash pairings like that (LinkxDark Link)
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>>8728362
Gays and Lesbians are people whose genetic code has been so fucked by the radioactive isotopes that now pollute out planet that they forgot what it means to be a biological organism. It is sterilization on a mass scale, deliberate or otherwise. Have pride in the fact that you are victims of the nuclear fission industry corrupting your chromosomes.

Have pride that you are the beginning of the end of the human race.
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>>8730224
This is probably the dumbest explanation for homo love I've ever read.

Even Plato talking about double-souls in the metaphysical realm is a better explanation. If for no other than reason than he realized there were homos way before nuclear energy.

Stop posting in threads about things and people you hate. Get a life.
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>>8730233
Love? You have no idea what love is. How dare you use homo and love in the same sentence. Love is a byproduct of the urge to reproduce. Your mutant DNA is so far away from nature that you think being proud to not reproduce and waste the gift of life is love. It's not your fault, but you should at least be aware that homosexuality is the OPPOSITE of love. Try to see the truth in that statement for a moment instead of reverting back to your leftist group-think mania.
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>>8730233
There was also radioactive isotopes before nuclear energy, but it's a matter of scale. Think the gay population was anything close to what it is now back then?
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>>8728362
No but suggesting that you're going to cure someone of homosexuality is practically a rape threat. You shouldn't force sex on anyone or support any theories that force or coerce people to have unwanted sex.
There are some environmental factors and sexual orientation isn't a simple set of logical states. Men and women aren't symmetrical opposites and neither is sexual orientation.
People should be able to choose who to sleep with consensually and not need to fit some model or algorithm of sexual orientation that's probably wrong.
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>>8730240
Holy shit, this post reads like it was written by an anime villain or a crusty old lady. I'm a girl and I love my girlfriend, and she loves me. We are homos. I don't care what you think, we are just two drops of rain in a storm and have no control over our short lives and sudden deaths.
I'm sure you'll be lying in the ground as a skeleton, wishing that you had been more of an ass to people online. Maybe then you would have finally filled that hole inside of you.
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>>8730287
Imprisoning the population in a deluded ignorance that people are born gay, or that it's ok to be gay is rape. Why do you think gay people are so much more likely to kill themselves, because of harassment? No. It's because being gay goes against what it means to be an organism. The leftist propaganda rips you up from the inside and then gives you an identity to cling to so that you can have a sense of belonging, but it's all just sterilization. You are all victims of population control.
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>>8730313
>accepting gays is rape
lmao wat
Also how is population control a bad thing? For example, it would have been awesome if your mom aborted you
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>>8730313
It's funny you're politicizing science. If adhering to science means you're left that I wouldn't want to be right.
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>>8730304
My genes will live on in my offspring while you lay dead and cold in the ground with your partner in sterilization. My child will continue to add to society and enjoy life while yours will never enter existence. If you chose to use donated sperm to have a child, you are dooming that child to a life of mental illness with a cancerous childhood and it will be doomed from the start. You are a piece of the virus that is the leftist population control movement. Why do you think we call you dykes? A dyke is a damn and you are damning humanity.
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>>8730317
Listen to the sensitive leftist legionary support gays and abortion in the same sentence thinking it's a clever organism. Do you not know what it means to be an organism? You and your misguided gang of zombies sure could do with a course in biology. Learn what it means to be an organism and then defend the living instead of being a pawn of death.
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>>8730318
I'm politicizing nature. Science is a method, not a list of facts. Your leftist masters have you confusing even the most basic of terms.
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>>8730319
Holy fuck I am chuckling so hard right now. I don't give a fuck about kids or genes but you have fun, breederbro
>>8730327
You... You know an organism is just a living thing, right? An insect is an organism, and some of them are hermaphroditic so obv against nature.
I take it back, you sound less like an anime villain and more like a Batman villain
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>>8730329
I'm not confusing anything but you seem extremely confused. Maybe you need to get an education and stop getting "facts" from the Bible. Then you can read research papers and results and you wont need something so brittle as facts to function.
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>>8730335
I present you with the truth and you bring up the bible? lol no, I'm not some right wing jesus obsessed theistic fanatic. I'm just telling you that you're a victim of sterilization and you're proud of it. If you understand that and are still proud, there is nothing I can do for you.
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>>8730333
Nice trips, but seriously? I'm explaining to you that the real villains are the ones who are sterilizing the public and then making them proud to be sterilization victims. You can hide away in your leftist groupthink club all you like, but your making a mockery out of your life. You are desecrating the greatest gift there is, and just because it's the popular stance, you think it's the right one.
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>>8730333
And don't try to school me on nature. Some organisms have evolved to change sex and whatnot. Humans are the only species retarded enough to actually reject the concept of breeding. We live in a culture where the term 'breederbro' can actually be uttered. You don't think it's not going to get worse? This is the beginning of a global gay fest that no one will get to know about because we'll all be dead for not following the one truth of nature: Fucking fuck...
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>>8730341
You haven't presented truth either. Now you seem to be getting your terminology all confused as you don't really know what you're trying to do anymore. You claim to not be a right wing nut but you're pushing the same regressive rhetoric based on a gross misunderstanding of many things. It's usually religious people that are indoctrinated with false beliefs that do this stuff. It could just be that you're crazy or incredibly stupid, if that's the case then sorry for assuming you weren't mentally retarded and were just religious.
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>>8730356
Trips of truth, b r e e d e r b r o
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>>8730361
No a regressive concept is one that leads to the extinction of a species, not one that doesn't conform to your indoctrinated concept of sensitivity. Maybe I am mentally retarded if I reject a society that believes that going against nature is considered progressive thought. I love you all and want you to know that you are the victims of my enemy and not my enemy itself.
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>>8728593
Why would I want a wild, ugly animal on my bedroom?
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>>8730421
Inquires the civilized, beautiful robot.
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>>8730240
>>8730304

>Love? You have no idea what love is. How dare you use homo and love in the same sentence. Love is a byproduct of the urge to reproduce

Plato defined love as two good-souled people being of use to each other. Your definition of love describes why cockroaches mate. Which is fitting as you are a cockroach.

>>8730281
I'd love to see any of your studies that attribute homosexuality to radioactivity.
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>>8730534
Radiation mutates DNA. It's why it causes cancer and lowers sperm count. The mutation of sex chromosomes leads to this ass-backwards society that thinks physical pleasure is more important than the continuation of our species.

I'd rather be a cockroach than a monkey that's hell bent on destroying its own species.

Lol you reference Plato as much as the right references Jesus. Guess every herd needs its shepherd.
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>>8730626
Why are you posting in a thread, on a forum about things you hate? Get a life.
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>>8730681
I'm doing it for you. I don't hate you. I hate what they did to you. What I hate the most is how they tell you to be proud to be a part of a love movement when, in fact, it is a sterilization movement.
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>>8730694
Shit-posting doesn't make you a messiah.

Get a girlfriend too. Since you're whining about there not being enough people in the world why don't you make some. Assuming that there is any woman on the planet that would want to marry someone as ugly, stupid, and resentful as you.
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>>8730705
I sure do sound like the resentful one here, don't I? Listen, I feel like I got my point across to you and I picked up on yours as well. No need to be rude.
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>>8730724
Different anon, but why do you think it's so important to continue having kids? There are already so many orphans, shouldn't we at least make sure everyone in earth is taken care of first before popping out new people? Secondly, why does it matter if the human race goes extinct? It's going to happen eventually anyways. Who cares if it's sooner rather than later. We're going to go extinct thanks to all the shit we've done to our planet before we die out from "sterilization" anyways. Thirdly, even if literally everyone on earth was gay we could still continue the human race. Artificial insemination, etc. exists.
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There is not a bigger turn off in the world to me than men acting all "alpha" and bragging about their sexual lives. I don't even like it when studs do it. I'm not intimidated by it or men in general, it's just obnoxious and the thought of a man having any sort of sex with me (even if it's the most gentle, romantic sex ever) makes me want to kms.
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>>8731656
Is it not better to have a surplus than an insufficient amount of something? Overpopulation can be a serious problem in a capitalist society, yes, but with advancement in technology it is a manageable problem. It is unfortunate that there are so many orphans, but at least they get a chance at life. Think of all the people that will never exist because the world just gets gayer and gayer.

Can you imagine a universe without humans? I can't, because the only way there can be a universe is if there is sentient life living in it to experience it. Our world is probably not the only planet with life, but what if it is? The ultimate goal of humanity should be to preserve its existence so that the universe may experience itself. The universe is literally love, and does something as cold and distant as artificial insemination sound like love to you? It doesn't sound like love to me.

We must find a balance gradually and not so rapidly throw away our animalistic nature. Homosexuality and gender dysphoria are mental disorders that cause the deepest of depression whether it is socially embraced or not. Our society says its taboo to call them disorders, but what do you think the leading cause of suicide is? It's so painful to be gay because to breed is what every organism has evolved to do. Darwin's survival of the fittest and all that.

The left fights to defend evolution and then spits in its face by proclaiming it's okay to be gay.
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MAYBE UR JUST GAY
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>>8729355
>boobs
>universally loved
From what bizarro universe did you pop out of?
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>>8732064
Being gay doesn't lead to suicide like being trans does. Don't mix the two. You are born gay, that's not a decision. There's enough humans in the world, and gay people can choose to reproduce if they want, it's not an end all situation. The problem we pop out kids and don't take care of them, raising humans like that faggot who ran a car into a crowd on Saturday. There's people out there with like, 7 fucking kids, all born to a braindead father and mother, who will likely grow up to be braindead themselves because their guidance and our education system is lacking. We need to take care of the people who have first and do something about morons having more than 1-3 kids at most.
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>>8732099
This. I would rather live in a world of a billion people that are taken care of and live sustainably than the clusterfuck we have now. And no, I don't see life as a gift, nor do I care if there is sentient life in the universe or not. I'm not going to force myself to be straight because some random guy on 4chan wants me to have kids. If you want kids, have them yourself or adopt one of the millions that have been abandoned by their (heterosexual) parents. Don't try to force it on anyone else.
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>>8732099
You are not born gay. You may be born with a hormone deficiency, but it's society that makes you gay. It is preposterous to presume that an organism with DNA fined tuned over millions of years for the sole purpose of breeding is born without a desire to breed. Some guys just have too much estrogen so they want to get fucked, and some girls have too much testosterone so they like other girls. It's a society that normalizes it for the sake of population control that makes one gay.

And yeah, some idiots do produce more kids than they can handle, but what sort of authoritarian dystopia limits the amount of kids a couple can have? Oh yeah, China...
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>>8732117
I'm not forcing anything on you. I'm defending my opinion that homosexuality is not something to be celebrated. I don't think psychological sterilization is something one should have pride in. This makes me a far-right boogeyman to you, and I think that's bullshit.
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>>8732161
Nope, I don't think that about you. You can have whatever opinions you want and we can respectfully agree to disagree as long as nobody is pushing their views onto others. There's nothing wrong with civil discussion.
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>>8728362
>Do you believe there is any truth to the idea some lesbians are just women that are just scared of men and they would be come 'more' straight if they made it with a proper man
Unquestionable yes to the first part: I've met them. I don't think you can "fuck them straight" though, usually those women are abuse victims who are hypertraumatized and try to withdraw into a shell of perceived security, which is a pain if you just wanna get laid without playing a game of fucking Social Minesweeper to avoid women who don't actually have an attraction to men and who are also really easily-offended.

I mean, I don't understand how anyone can deny this given "political lesbians" were a loud thing for a long time, they left books behind and shit, it's virtually impossible at this point to deny.

>Or that some gay men are just emasculated and would become less faggy if they manned the fuck up.
No, this doesn't seem to be supported by any facts that I've seen and gay men never seem to have stories about this type of person either.

t. lesbian
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>>8728681
>this is what straight m*n actually believe

I'd say give me your gfs number so I can give her her first non-faked orgasm but you know she'd have to exist first
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>>8732141
Homosexuality has been observed in other species as well. Its a mechanic of nature to help fight overpopulation.
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>>8732161
I agree with you to an extent. I wish we lived in a world where being gay was as big of a deal as being left handed. But unfortunately the world we live in is full of oppression and bigotry and people are dicks to gay people for no good reason. So yes, we create this whole environment for homosexuality to be celebrated so that gay people who are treated like shit can feel empowered to be who they are instead of depressed and suicidal. Its the homophobes and right wing assholes who are responsible for the current gay culture. Over time the gay culture will normalize and be indistinguishable from straight culture.
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