Who has the most privilege /lgbt/? A Latino Cis Gay Man. An

>>8700893
>lesbians and bisexuals excluded
well fuck you two

In this order

White FTM
Cishet asian woman
Cis het black
Latino fag

>A Latino Cis Gay Man.
Unless he has papers, then that son of a bitch is gonna get flung across the wall.
>An asian Cis Hetero Woman.
Definite yes.
>A Cis Straight African American Man.
Maybe...maybe. Depends on how he's treated in public.
>A straight fully passing white FTM.
He's got more privilege than MtF but the boi don't got a cock

Straight white FTM, because society sees him as another normal guy

cishet asian woman, because society, at least western society, doesn't really dislike asians as much.

cishet black, because society isn't fond of blacks, but at least he isn't queer

cis gay latino, because people don't like latinos either, and he's queer so he's liked even less

tie between normie asain and transgender man

>>8700893
Let's simplify:
>Man
>Woman
>Man
>FTM

In order of Privilege.

White cis straight female > white cis bi female > white cis lesbian lesbian female > all other cis females in order from straight, bi, les > FTM of any kind > cis male of any kind > mtf of any kind

>>8700893
>no mtf

Reeeeeee

>>8700893
MTF because they are appropriating women's experiences from a position of male privilege.

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>>8701046
>FTM above cis males

>>8701654
Natal female above natal male. Get over it you overprivileged bitch.

Privilege is just attacking people for the circumstances of their birth, which they cannot even control. Thus, it is a worthless metric and leads to fallacies like heightism or ableism to develop.

>>8701688
>We'll equalize society by putting us at the top! This hasn't led to oppression every single time it's happened before male female or alien!

Femifacists

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>>8701688
>drinking so much MRA Kool-Aid that you honestly believe transexuals have it easier than cis straight men because they were born with a vag

So what happens when they start being treated as men, since most of them pass flawlessly once they've been on T for a decent period of time? Do they fall down the ladder rungs to the level of the poor, oppressed heterosexual man?

>>8701713
You're a victim of abuse and need a homeless shelter. Do you benefit from being a cis man or an ftm?

You want to get into a top college and your application asks about your personal life. Do you benefit from being a cis man or an ftm?

You use the women's restroom because the men's is full (not enough stalls). A woman spots you. Do you benefit from being a cis man or an ftm?

You can't afford medical help and have to beg the internet for money. You write a pitch and see if anyone donates. Do you benefit from being a cis man or an ftm?

Your country has the conscription/selective services. Do you benefit from being a cis man or an ftm?

You'd like to apply to the nearest college but it's a women's college. Do you benefit from being a cis man or an ftm?

You want to compete in competitive sports. Do you benefit from being a cis man or an ftm?

You are concerned about your reproductive rights. Do you benefit from being a cis man or an ftm?

You go to prison. Do you benefit from being a cis man or an ftm?

Your parents mutilated your genitals as an infant or small child and other people hear about it. Do you benefit from being a cis man or an ftm?

You post about being oppressed on one of the large websites most includes to agree with you, then read the reactions. Do you benefit from being a cis man or an ftm?

You suffer social oppression and look for an organization to support you. Do you benefit from being a cis man or an ftm?

Do you benefit from being a cis man or an ftm?

>>8701802
You're an aspiring politician. Do you benefit from being a cis man or an FtM?

You want to have biological children with your wife. Do you benefit from being a cis man or an FtM?

You want to date women - or, hell, you're gay and want to date men. Regardless, you want a loving partner who is sexually attracted to you. Do you benefit from being a cis man or an FtM?

You desire a career in the military. Do you benefit from being a cis man or an FtM?

You want to be accepted by a peer group of other men and treated as an equal. Do you benefit from being a cis man or an FtM?

You want family members to love, accept, and support you. Do you benefit from being a cis man or an FtM?

You want to live a normal, happy life unaffected by debilitating dysphoria. You would rather not have to undergo expensive cosmetic surgeries in order to achieve this. Do you benefit from being a cis man or an FtM?

Being referred to as your legal name upsets you. You would rather be called a different name that correlates with your gender. Do you benefit from being a cis man or an FtM?

You want to marry a woman. You live in a country where gay marriage is illegal. Do you benefit from being a cis man or an FtM?

>>8701703
how is ableism a falsehood? disabled people are treated like shit

>>8700893
How about you tell us their income, educational attainment, where they live, and what kind of family they come from. Then we might be able to talk about privilege.

>>8701920
The fact that you claim not having dysphoria is a privilege shows just how far you had to stretch to make up this pathetic response.

You really epitomize how much privilege brings with it unawareness of privilege.

>>8701802
>>8701920

So if things are going good for you it is much better to be a cis man. If things are going bad for you it is much better to be a cis woman.

As such you see men at the very top and very bottom and women in the middle. Women look up and complain that there are only men at the top while they are unable to look down and see all the men beneath them experiencing the worst conditions life has to offer.

>>8701967
>If things are going bad for you it is much better to be a natal woman.
FTFY

>>8700935
Another guy who is short as hell

>>8701940
Having mental illness does tend to worsen one's lot in life, yes, and opens the door to all sorts of oppression - in this case transphobia.

You want to talk about stretching? Passing FtMs would absolutely get bathroom policed in a woman's restroom. The point about competing in sports assumes FtMs are being allowed to compete in women's divisions while taking T, which any league worth its salt will disallow because it's basically equivalent to steroid treatment, and 99.9% of FtMs will never be able to compete with actual biological males. A FtM will probably get more donations not simply because they possess a vagina, but because transgender people are widely considered to be further down the ladder rungs of oppression (a MtF would get more than a cis man too). People not circlejerking along with your MRA horse shit is not oppression.

>anyone who disagrees with me must be female
Or perhaps some of us aren't so drunk on self-pity and embittered towards anything with a vagina that we can acknowledge some of them are indeed worse off than us.

>>8702125
t. white knight

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>>8703560
>white knight
>ftms

>>8701802
>You're a victim of abuse and need a homeless shelter. Do you benefit from being a cis man or an ftm?
probably ftm
>You want to get into a top college and your application asks about your personal life. Do
you benefit from being a cis man or an ftm?
cis man definitely
>You use the women's restroom because the men's is full (not enough stalls). A woman spots you. Do you benefit from being a cis man or an ftm?
probably ftm
>You can't afford medical help and have to beg the internet for money. You write a pitch and see if anyone donates. Do you benefit from being a cis man or an ftm?
depends on the illness, but most likely cis man
>Your country has the conscription/selective services. Do you benefit from being a cis man or an ftm?
cis man
>You'd like to apply to the nearest college but it's a women's college. Do you benefit from being a cis man or an ftm?
no one, men aren't accepted into women's colleges
>You want to compete in competitive sports. Do you benefit from being a cis man or an ftm?
cis man, ftm's are at a disadvantage when competing with cis men
>You are concerned about your reproductive rights. Do you benefit from being a cis man or an ftm?
cis man
>You go to prison. Do you benefit from being a cis man or an ftm?
cis man
>Your parents mutilated your genitals as an infant or small child and other people hear about it. Do you benefit from being a cis man or an ftm?
cis man, female genital mutilation is much worse
>You post about being oppressed on one of the large websites most includes to agree with you, then read the reactions. Do you benefit from being a cis man or an ftm?
cis man
>You suffer social oppression and look for an organization to support you. Do you benefit from being a cis man or an ftm?
ftm, cis men do not get oppressed
>Do you benefit from being a cis man or an ftm?
cis man in most cases
please try again with better bait

>>8700893
in this order:
A Cis Straight African American Man.
A straight fully passing white FTM.
A Latino Cis Gay Man.
An asian Cis Hetero Woman. (asians never complain they fear being deported back to their shithole continent)

>>8701920
>Being referred to as your legal name upsets you. You would rather be called a different name that correlates with your gender. Do you benefit from being a cis man or an FtM?

That's obviously less likely to happen in the first place to a cis man, but if it does somehow, people are *universally* going to think he's silly and mock him for it, and there's no SJWs to stand up for him.

>>8704170
You know how I know you're British?

>>8700893

Most to least privilege
>A straight fully passing White FTM (early transition with supportive parents)
>An Asian cis hetero woman
>A straight fully passing white FTM (late transition)
>A cis straight African American man
>A Latino cis gay man

>>8704024
Most of your claims are factually incorrect, your other points are slanted opinions.

>>8706046
I'm spanish

>>8707660
Ok still European.

In America "Asian" means Chinese Japanese etc not middle eastern or Indian. And also doesn't mean foreign migrants by default but is just a racial description.

>>8701802
>You go to prison. Do you benefit from being a cis man or an ftm?
are you fucking retarded? you'd have to be a femboy to get anywhere near as much rape as an ftm.

>>8708150
Americans are retards. If anything, Middle Easterners have more right to be called Asian than Chinks do, considering originally Asia meant just Anatolia and the Levant.

>>8708150
here means the same, I was talking about truly asians not these middleeasterners the media try to push as ''asians'', so I was talking about chinese/asians they never complain for fear to being deported, their country is an inhuman shithole (also not all countries of Europe are the same, this is not USA this was not some shitty anglo colonies were everything is the same, Spain is way different from the UK)

>>8708179
asia refers to the whole continent, which includes chinks, indians and etc. here at least asian is someone who looks like chinese although I know that in UK they call ‘’asians’’ to pakis and such

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>>8708188
Americans do the same about Africa, by the way. "not black = not real African" is complete brainletry.

>>8700893
In order:
>asian cis hetero woman
+0 asian
+1 cis
+1 hetero
+0 woman
>cis straight african american man
+1 cis
+1 straight
-0.5 african american
+0 man
>straight fully passing white ftm
+1 straight
+0.5 white
-1 ftm
>latino cis gay man
-0.5 latino
+1 cis
-0.5 gay
+0 man

Source: majored in privilege calculus.

>>8700893

Most to least:
Asian cishet woman
White het ftm
Latino cis gay man
Cishet black man

>>8701802
>You use the women's restroom because the men's is full (not enough stalls)
when the hell is the men's room full? men just run in, piss on the floor, and leave without washing their hands. women spend 40 minutes contemplating life while making origami art with the toilet paper.

>>8708191
yes that's what americans do

>>8706371
>implying privilege is nothing but opinions

>>8700906
yep

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the answer is obvious

straight acting masc discreet White Cis Male Homosexual

>>8708172
What happens to an FTM in a female prison?

>>8711243
they get a lot of straight girl pussy probably

>>8700893
all cis straight women including bisexuals >all cis straight men men>all cis lesbian women >all cis gay men including bisexuals>all ftms>all mtfs>niggers of any sexuality/gender identity

>>8711279
>natal females below natal males
Opinion discarded.

>>8711279
>not including otherkin
REEEEE

Asian Woman by leagues

Asians get the best treatment here in America, women ain't got to do shit.

Gay Latino

Gay is major privilege, gay's look much more handsome, latino is exotic when coupled with handsome

White passing FtM

Passing is a plus
Even is transition, the worst FtMs get is being thought of as attention seekers, the moment they pass, that's disregarded, because who would want to be a man?

Black Man.

Down in the feeding grounds with the rest of the normies,
Loses points if he looks anything less than professional as goes with being Black, otherwise his options are Hippie or Gangster.

>>8714397
>natal female
>below natal male

>>8706042
>*universally*
I wouldn't. I'd assume he was named after a relative he ended up hating, or something. Have also known plenty of guys who preferred nicknames unrelated to their legal names and nobody made a fuss about it the way people will use legal gendered names as bludgeons against trans people.

>>8714443
>Passing

>>8701688
>>8714443
>>8714119
You have made the thread well aware of your non-argument opinion. There is no need to continue samefagging.

>>8714694
Omg, getting clocked as a chick, the patriarchy will probably kill you on the spot!

Asian cis het female, no doubt.

>>8714443
implying females don't have more priviledge

>>8708204
How is woman not a +2?

>>8714689
The scenario in my mind was someone who was named something technically-but-not-really gender neutral like Leslie or something. And not *universally*, maybe, but a lot of people would mock someone like that for being insecure enough to care. It's a toxic masculinity thing.

>>8720025
>something technically-but-not-really gender neutral
what's the deal with names like this?

>>8716532
Because that poster denies female privilege.

>>8700893
white ftm > asian woman = black guy > latino gay guy

>>8720035
I think it's a generational thing where something starts as a male name and then people start naming their daughters that to be edgy, then who the hell wants their son to be made fun of for being called that.