https://www.out.com/2017/7/30/dear- gay-men-stop-telling-wom

>>8689742
Is this what I think it is? The same cis women pushing trannies out of their "spaces" now want to forcibly insert themselves in gay mens' "spaces"? Could modern radical feminism just die already?

>>8689742
>dear-gay-men-stop-telling-women-they-cant-be-gay-bars
>cant-be-gay-bars
kek

I just feel uncomfortable around cis women, why can't they just leave us alone? there are millions of straight clubs where they can go. fucking fag hags

>Women want women-only golf courses, tennis clubs, cinema events and bars
>But men-only things (even gay only-things) are utterly inconceivable

Modern feminism: selective equality

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>>8689742
Women can be anything and anywhere.
They just have better rolls than males for this type of stuff you know.

It's like those girls that want to be dudes but don't want to be treated like dudes because it sucks being treated as a dude.

I personally don't care if they go to said places because I really hate super loud places. If I had to go somewhere I would just kidnap my bf put him in a car without telling him anything and we would go for some awesome hiking in the smoky mountains with some bonus cuddling and kissing on the way.

Gay clubs should change their policies to be like lesbian clubs. Guys aren't allowed without a woman entering with them, so that way lesbians can bring their gay bros or whatever, and it limits the number of guys.
Gay dudes should do that too, so they can bring lesbians or trusted fag hags, and not get swarmed with cis hetshits.

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if i'm a cis het guy, can i go to a gay bar?

>>8689837
>het
not for long :^)

>>8689765
I think it's more that bi women and lesbians are a thing and some gay dudes tend to forget about that

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>>8689742

Blame straight men. They ruled humanity up till about 50 years ago and began selling each other out and letting these creatures loose to vote, litigate and generally invade anywhere with a sense of reason naturally selected to remain mentally and emotionally "youthful" for as much as life as possible.

Now they are telling men what manhood should be, ruining the development as boys so that once they realize feminine men isnt really what they want, they abandon the generation they raised to go find the lummoxes they bitched about.

They are neurophysiologically children. We now let them make social policy, and for men to boot. What the fuck did people think would happen when you let 10 year olds with adult bodies start running society.

>>8689813

And then women will flip their shit and file discrimination lawsuits against the club. It'd be a shit show and a half watching straight women going after gay men. I wonder who will win that oppression Olympics.

>>8689794
if they have the money for a private party, i think owners will let them in

>>8689888
>women are assholes to a disprivileged minority
>"Blame straight men."

To be fair, we already sold out our movement, community, support groups, advocacy groups, lobby groups and networks to cishet women, so in a way they have a point when they say they own us.

I'm all for change, as in "kick the cishet out of lgbt" but it seems most people are fine with having cishets rule us with an iron fist.
As is tradition apparently.

>>8690005
I can understand the bar owner but I will never like cis women and they should fuck off. Can't do anything without them getting involved/judging you

>>8689888

Agree. at some point in history we became so full of ourselves that we believed we could defy the natural order of things. And now, look at the state of things. you can blame whatever you want, but when America, for example, is a third world shithole, female empowerment will have been the root cause

>>8690076
>female empowerment will have been the root cause


I might say institutional corruption.

>>8689985
Depends on your country/state/city whatever laws. Here we've been doing it this way for decades without any problems and there was at least one straight dude who tried a lawsuit. There is also a mostly straight swingers club that does the same thing. It's privately owned clubs making rules, same as they can pick and choose who enters based on their attire or looks.

>>8689742
I've never been so tempted to punch a woman I haven't met.

I don't want them out because they're straight women. I want them out because they're a bunch of bloody slags.

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>>8690269

>>8689742
I think I've only ever gone to gay bars while completely plastered anyway and at least by adding straight women it makes them safer. The gay dudes in there are borderline rapists lol
I'd rather not get raped and get std's due to my drunk decisions.

>>8689796
this.
this.
this.

>>8689742
obvious bait is obvious

>Dear gay men, ... pls notice me senpais pls plssss!

>>8690698
Our local bar was doing amateur drag shows where people could put on a drag show for the first time. A cishet woman wanted to be part of it and threw a fit when they said that she couldn't. They let her in the show. The show is now just drunk women coming up and lipsyncing while their friends cheer.

>>8689765
Cishet women are the most privileged of all.

>>8691053
Why didn't they tell her to dress up as a drag king?

>on 4chan lesbians reee at any male joining a conversation and call it rape
>on Reddit afabs reee at not being able to answer questions targeted at mtf women and throw protests on LGBT subs
>irl women barge into gay bars
>irl women block transwomen from les spaces

Idgi senpai

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>>8689888
>separating from a female that does not want to have sex with you is now rape
I'm so glad I don't have to deal with female's bullshit.

>>8690319
True.
The only time I've been to a gay bar I was surrounded by a group of men and groped.
I'd rather be in a gay bar full of women having fun than gay men who think they can molest me en masse

>>8690009
Makes sense, you have a person with a brain and one without, if the one without suddenly drives a car out of a cliff you blame the person with a brain that put the brainless one in charge.

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>>8689742
>it's 2017 used unironically as an argument

>>8691914
>thinking this doesn't happen with men
Must be nice thinking that there's a group of people out there that actually supports you :^[

>>8689742
>2020
>LGBT PRIDE is womyn/femme only
>gay bars are womyn only

And there is nothing you can do about it.

Gay men don't even care about lesbians at gay bars. It's not about women in general, it's about straight women.

Some of us just legitimately don't find their drunk sloppy asses amusing.

>>8691914
>irl women block transwomen from les spaces

Literally nothing wrong with this

>wahhh women are meanies! I want to exclude them from muh safespaces.
>wahh women are meanies they called me a man and excluded me because I'm a disgusting guy on a dress trying to get on their panties.

Why do women like gay bars so much?

>>8693714
so they can fetishise all the gay men (omg they're hot!!! + omg two boys kissing!!! + gotta find me a fag bff to go shopping with) while getting drunk off their faces but still feeling insulated from the advanced of het dudes and Evil Gross Dykes.

>>8693686
t. terf

>>8693759
tbqh I also don't like the evil gross dykes so I guess I have something in common with the Het females, lesbians always lack class and can't they just go to some kind of dyke bar instead of a gay bar? ffs.

>feminists bitch nonstop about trans women invading womens spaces
>"DWI QUEERMOS, THIS IS A HENS NIGHT"

>>8689766
>They told me I could be anything, so I became a gay bar

>>8693785
do dykes actually go to gay bars? because i have no idea why they would.

agreed that all women should stay out of gay bars (and all men out of lesbian bars, but that's actually more well enforced) but as a bislut i do want some mixed lgb bars just so i can have a wider range of choice.

>>8693840
>do dykes actually go to gay bars? because i have no idea why they would.

All the fucking time, they aren't as numerous as the faghags who think gay bars mean "I can go get wasted with my friends without my boyfriend thinking I'm cucking him" but almost at same level.

The difference is that they are not only obnoxious as het women but extremely butthurt and aggressive towards men even though they went to a god fucking damn gay bar.

It's like some natsoc dude going to a bat mitzvah and being butthurt it's filled with jews.

Honestly I use to go from time to time because of friends but all the bullshit with women nowadays just made me stop it altogether.

Only thing I haven't been called white was cis scum the rest you already can imagine.

I'm in sanfran btw.

>>8693853
>called white was cis scum
I meant white cis scum but you get the idea.

Also the classic one is "men are all rapists"
Then why the fuck you're in a gay bar filled with men?

>>8693853
so they essentially just want to be angry, cause a scene, and ruin someone else's night?

>>8689742
Went to a Seattle gay bar before because I heard it was fun and cool.
Ended up playing on a pinball machine for 20 minutes.
>TFW completely straight
I was hoping to just be surrounded by men because I didn't want woman in the vicinity yet there were a ton of them.

>>8693853
>I'm in San Fran

say no more

>>8693853
For the record, a lot of dykes (including me) are not angry, but actually quite chill and willing to let you have your male spaces. I think the anon who posted earlier is right; there should at least be a system enforced where if you're not a gay man, you have to be escorted by one. It sucks that your good time is being crushed by lame ass straight women. I mean, I would lose my chill real fast if straight men started streaming into all the les bars. Fuck that.
I feel like now that gay is becoming more accepted by society, all these straight people who would have dragged gays behind trucks are now acting like being gay is the hippest new fad and they want to be in on it. Terrible, really.

>>8694438
>completely straight
>I want to be surrounded by men

doubt.jpg

>>8694472

because nobody can have friends that they don't want to sex with right?

>>8694483
.... You were trying to meet dude bro friends at a gay bar? Maybe try a class or a social event, you silly goose. You don't even know what you're dealing with here.

>>8694483
>Going to a gay bar to find friends
I mean, it happens, but you'll mostly just get thirsty and/or bitchy queens

>>8694490

I'm not that guy mate, but his logic made sense

I've been taken to 'straight' (i.e. non-gay focused) bars by my friends before, didn't mean I got a gf/ one night stand

>>8694495

I'm not the same poster lmao, you are right about the clientele though

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>>8693799
This, what the hell.

Is the irony lost on them? You can't demand a safe space while ALSO demanding that you have the right to invade other people's safe space.

That's literally all it boils down to, entitlement and a lack of any kind of respect for other people.

Either everyone gets their precious little safe space club or nobody does. Don't start getting pissy when Transgirls start """"invading your spaces"""" when you're doing something much worse to another group of people. (Most) transgirls at least attempt to blend in and not bring attention to themselves whilst being in female-dominated spaces, and that's still apparently a problem worth throwing tantrums over - Yet, it's completely fine to trounce around in male-dominated spaces while belittling and tokenizing them, and then CONTINUING to throw tantrums when they call you out on it.

Fuck. I'm angry now. Why are cis women such entitled fucking babies?

>>8694498
I guess I could see it that way, it just seems unusual to me. I was going off the reaction I'd have personally if I tried to pick up a guy at a gay club and he was like "oh no bro I'm straight, just here to make friends"
It's like people on tinder saying they're trying to make friends only and not hook up, just odd

>>8689837
yes, but don't be surprised or upset if someone hits on you. Also, don't be an ass and make a scene

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>>8694502
Why are you generalizing half the human population here? A lot of women don't give a shit about men having gay clubs to themselves, and don't want to infringe on that at all. Sure there's a lot of women who are total fuckheads, but it hurts to be always grouped in with them so think before you do that, friend

>>8694483
>goes to a gay bar
>to find friends he doesn't want to have sex with

doubt.jpg

>>8694518
A bloo bloo don't generalize me

If you realize you are the exception then you have nothing to worry about

>>8693686

eh, the trannies are fine in our spaces. If they're femme and have gotten the chop, I'll probably sleep with them, since femme lesbians are more rare than unicorns.

If they're butch/masc, I won't be attracted to them, but that holds true for cis lesbians as well.

>>8694527
Whatever, man. If you want more division and negativity in this world, you got it.

>>8689837
...but we only serve cum-flavored cocktails you know, it's up to you :^)

Fuck I cannot stand how cishet women treat gay men as commodities for their enjoyment.

dealing with female privilege is so annoying and women refuse to acknowledge it.

>>8689742
I could care less if women want to come to a gay bar but the problem is, they are kinda visitors and not the target audience so they should at least respect how things work in there.

As this anon said >>8693853
The main reason they go to gay bars is so they can go full retard, get wasted as hell, take their clothes off and start groping men around because if they are gay it's not a problem and their boyfriends won't be mad.

>>8694531
Not even a tranny and I know myself this is bullshit.
Lesbians that don't hate trannies to their guts are the real unicorns.

You're either bullshitting or you're bi or you're as I said before, the unicorn lesbian who's not a transphobe.
And I didn't imply transphobia as "someone who doesn't sleep with me is transphobe" but the "that nigga is trans and should die" kinda of deal lesbians have.

I'm from redneck country and every single gay guy I know who is masc as fuck is totally fine with trans people and don't care about it at all but dykes around here try to start shit with them because they probably have nothing else to do.

>>8694509

Yeah it makes sense, if I desperately wanted to avoid women and play pinball whilst still leaving my mother's basement I would do what the other anon did

I think what actually happened was he went to the bar to find some dick but couldn't pluck up the courage to speak to someone so he played the closest thing to a video game nearby and then went home after 20 mins.

>>8694520

I wish I'd never posted this, it was inspired by the visits to 'straight' bars with my straight friends, see >>8694498

>>8693782

>found the non-passing hon

Sorry about your dick

>>8694550
There've been tons of lesbians on this board okay with trannies. You just disregard them in lieu of the screeching banshees that infest /clg/ and then swarm every other thread dealing with trannies all day erryday hoping /pol/ senpai notices them at last.

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>>8694490
>>8694483

>>8694550
Wouldn't consider myself bi. I have no attraction to butch women or anybody who I see as being a man, and with trannies, like I said, they have to be femme.

The problem might be the redneck country thing

I'm in a liberal big city, so my experiences are different. Pretty much everyone I know (I do know some terfy gold star lesbians though, but eh, screw em) is fine with accepting trans women as women.

>>8694540

Different anon, but you're just as guilty of perpetuating division if you can't deal with casual hyperbole. Also notice you're making this all about you, so not really proving yourself to be much of an exception.

>>8694606
What I can't deal with is this comminity constantly tearing itself apart. Sorry if seeing things like that makes me politely ask for people to consider what they might be perpetuating.
It's not about me, it's about people acknowledging each other as humans, especially within lgbt. Do you think that's a bad thing? That we should always generalize and attack each other? This is why straight people can walk all over us, because it's all gays against lezzies and lezzies against trans and everyone against bis. It shouldn't be like this.

>>8689837
NO

>>8690014
But only cishet women because """bi""" women get upset when we say this.

>>8694621
>this comminity constantly tearing itself apart
The only reason you believe it is is because youve bought into the view that it's ever been monolithic. You've probably been told stories about how the trannies and gays united at Stonewall, how the lesbians nursed the gays during AIDS when nobody else wood.

Fact is, saying this is like saying "baby boomers we're hippies". It's a stupid generalization. Sure, some boomers we're hippies, some lesbians helped gays during HIV, and some gays and trans women rioted together against the police, but those groups have never represented most of the "cumminity", which has largely been separate from one another and composed of people who just live their lives and don't base social circles along sexual identities.

So of course you'll find people shitting on other groups in the LGBT umbrella. You're in the internet. All types of idealogies are represented. It's not representative of any sort of trend.

>>8693696
>wahhh women are meanies! I want to exclude them from muh safespaces.
men only social clubs and other organizations have been around since civilization began. vaginacreatures should learn their fucking place

>>8694621
>What I can't deal with is this comminity constantly tearing itself apart
By shitting on straight women who invade gay bars and cis women who ostracise trans women?

>It's not about me
>it hurts to be always grouped in with them

>That we should always generalize and attack each other?
I never said that. I criticised your over reaction to someone expressing frustration at specific actions of cis women, simply because it was expressed with out a #notall disclaimer. It was very clear to anyone without autism that he was referring to the women who behave in the distasteful manner that was outlined in the rest of the post.

>This is why straight people can walk all over us, because it's all gays against lezzies and lezzies against trans and everyone against bis.
No, it's one LGBTer against hypocritical cis and/or het women who simultaneously segregate themselves while invading other communities.

>>8694742
>hashtags

Just stop posting.

>>8694767
>implying I wasn't mocking anon's attitude
Do you also think that accusing someone of being from reddit is an endorsement of reddit?

>>8695091
People who "mock each other's attitude" with shit they learned from tumblr are 9/10 times from tumblr or using tumblr concurrently.

>>8694687
>vaginacreatures should learn their fucking place
Why would they when men refuse to teach them?

>>8695097
Jesus fucking christ, what a puritanical little faggot you are. Go yell at someone for saying 'triggered'.
You are aware that language spreads around the internet? Also pretty sure it's from twitter.

>>8694588
made me kek

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>>8689742
>www.out.com
>Out is an LGBT fashion, entertainment, and lifestyle magazine, with the highest circulation of any LGBT monthly publication in the United States


>LGBT publication
>ran by anti-gay feminazis

US media is truly beyond saving

In my limited experience, the straight women come for the queer vibes. They are followed by straight men, naturally. The straight men harass and intimidate the gay people. Eventually it becomes mostly straight or "bi" and very sweaty. Pits of degeneracy. Women screaming at each other. Poor little twinks getting pushed around. Straight couples grinding to "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun." Idk if I'm going clubbing again. Straight bars are so much more chill.
I just want to dance and drink and chat without being molested or catching anything nasty.
That's just me, I haven't been to many gay clubs, but my experience has been very gross.

>>8694518
>half the human population
can you read and mind the context? we are talking about feminists who are shamming gays while doing worse things and obnoxious entitled faghags

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>>8695375
>US media

All arms of the US media are owned by just a few companies.
It is admitted that the CIA paid journalists and worked closely with news magazines to manipulate news for propaganda purposes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird

It has also been admitted that the FBI infiltrated and disrupted groups that the FBI deemed subversive, including the gay rights movement.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO

Don't be fooled.
These people have an agenda but "feminazis" are just the distracting cover.

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>>8693853
>It's like some natsoc dude going to a bat mitzvah and being butthurt it's filled with jews.
Why this sounds so funny?

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>>8694483
>men
>wanting to be friends with some they are sexually attracted to
You meant to say that men want to be friendzoned? Are you serious?

>>8694621
The lgbt group is like the alt-right group, fabricated by the media, was never a group in the first place, nobody agrees with each other and some of them outright hate the others in the group.

>>8693696
Salty womyn detected

>>8695596

ffs read the replies man, I'm not the same anon

>>8695908
Point being why would a gay man go to a gay bar where there are sexy fuckers only to become friends with them? It doesn't matter if you are the same person or not.

>>8695925

The guy who I was replying to said he went to gay bars bc he wanted a woman-free environment, bit unusual but whatever

>>8694510
>>yes, but don't be surprised or upset if someone hits on you
That's not a bad thing, my ego and none existent self esteem needs all the help it can get.

>>8695936
That's fine but going to a gay club for that isn't the best option if he doesn't want to fuck a a man.

>>8695953

Exactly, see >>8694551