What do you think about Liev Schreiber letting his kid crossdress

I think you need therapy for asking this question.

>>8630513
why?

Girls do it all the time and we call them tomboy and don't give a shit. There's no reason the reverse should be demonised.

Not really a big deal, I think he is cool for letting his kid express himself the way he wants to rather than giving the kid a complex and making him feel bad about himself.

>>8630520
>we call them tomboy
False. They are *genderqueer* now.

>>8630520
But boys are awesome and girls are weak and disgusting. It makes sense for a girl to want to be better than she is, but if a boy wants to degrade himself then obviously someone must be molesting him or something.

>>8630487
if it was the kids idea, which honestly isn't hard to believe that it was, there's nothing wrong with it

A boy dressing up as a female character for Halloween is fine.
Whether Suicide Squad Harley Quinn is an appropriate costume for any child is an entirely separate debate.

>>8630487
>What do you think about Liev Schreiber...
I want to fuck him
>...letting his kid crossdress for halloween?
I want to fuck his dad.

>>8630532
this

he should he able to dress up like a girl, but not as a fucking slut. You dont put a kid that age in hotpants and fishnets, its borderline child pornography that youre forcing on the public. Kids should not be sexualized whatsoever until theyre old enough to understand all the implications.

>>8630551
This

>>8630555
In other parts of the world kids can run around naked without adults getting all horny and wanting to fuck them.
The costume is not sexualizing them, you are.

>>8630575
this is such a shit argument. Im not aroused by that kid, but he doesnt know he's wearing a whore's uniform and kids should be told that there are limits to what they can do, for their own sake.

>>8630520
>>8630526
>>8630531
I agree, I think its cool for a parent to not be completely opposed to this, I wish I had that sort of supportive family
>>8630532
>>8630555
theres definitely a weird cycle where designs are made to be sexually appealing to adults and then a kid happens to take a liking to the character for non-sexual reasons (obviously) and want to dress as them, which make the whole situation weird as the costume was definitely designed for adults. (and the fact that it's crossdressing is a whole extra layer)

but I think all in all its not a terrible thing, Im sure the kids enjoyment outweighs anything bad if its only halloween.

>>8630595
>I'm not aroused by that kid
>b-b-but he looks like a whore!

>kids should be told that there are limits to what they can do, for their own sake.

Nah. I'm going to enjoy watching your trad. values burn at the pyre.

>>8630595
>I'm not aroused, everyone else is!
Everyone is just up their own butt and trying to save the kid from the evil pedo "sexualizers".
You want to save the kids innocence by taking it from him.

>>8630610
well put

>>8630529
I know you're shitposting but the denigration of femininity is fucking annoying.

>>8630625
well put too

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>>8630631
Femininity isn't a goddess to be put on a pedestal and it's easy to tell where your loyalties lie when you treat it as such.

>>8630610
>trad. values burn at the pyre.


Felt good desu

>>8630520
>>8630526
Totally agreed. I never understood why girls are free to be tomboys but we demonize feminine boys as gay or degenerate

>>8630555
It's a fucking costume jfc. It's not sexual for the kid, if people sexualize him it's their own pedo fault. He just likes Harley Quinn, let him like Harley Quinn

>>8630487
>I'm may not have a black friend, but I do have a kid that I can crossdress

>>8630694
>implying the kid doesn't want to
"parents forcing their kids to crossdress omg!!11!1!" is a bad meme

>>8630708
>implying the kid does want to
you have about as much prove as I have

>>8630659
>Femininity isn't a goddess to be put on a pedestal
Neither is masculinity.

>and it's easy to tell where your loyalties lie when you treat it as such.
Are you implying that someone who notices that female masculinity is more accepted than male femininity has to be some kind of male-hating radfem? Because that's exactly the opposite of reality. Feminism (particularly second-wave feminism) has done a lot to make gender non-conformity more acceptable for women, but unfortunately there has not yet been an equivalent movement for men.

>>8630732
Considering that you're the one who made the initial claim in >>8630694, burden of proof is on you. And if you're going to assert that there's a major phenomenon of parents forcing their kids to crossdress because of "le progressive xd", then you're first going to have to prove that it is NOT common for parents to force their kids to dress in a gender-conforming way.

>>8630746
female masculinity really shouldn't be accepted and neither should crossdressing for boys(it's a little kid for christ's sake). You people are fucking sick.

>>8630487
If the kid legitimately wanted to dress like that without any 'convincing' to do it, alright whatever just let it be. But considering the bubble Hollywood lives in, the current political climate, and the coverage this is getting, I find it VERY hard to believe this isn't just some stunt pushed by his parents. In which case, what the fuck? Don't use your kid to virtue signal. They're not your tools to push an agenda or earn you social praise.

>>8630788
Why? If you think crossdressing is inherently sexual, then you must think gender expression is inherently sexual - which would imply that forcing (or even ALLOWING) girls to wear dresses is child abuse.

>>8630790
What if it's a gray area - like the parents ask the kid if he'd rather dress like a boy or a girl and he says he'd rather dress like a girl today? That makes crossdressing an obvious option rather than something taboo (and the decision of the parents to ask their kid that question is likely influenced by the political climate), but the kid isn't being pressured, forced, or coerced into it either.

>>8630758
>"le" before and "xd" after=disproved
that's not how it works sweetie

Kids crossdressing in sexualized outfits isn't something common. I'm not claiming there is a major phenomenon of parents cross dressing their kids. This case it's not some random parent, but a public person form a community that always tries to "out-progressive" each other.

>>8630788
>muh 1950s

>>8630830
>This case it's not some random parent, but a public person form a community that always tries to "out-progressive" each other.
Am I'm merely saying that logic suggests that the community of parents who force their kids to dress in a gender-conforming way is significantly larger than the community of parents who force their kids to dress in a non-gender-conforming way.

>>8630841
Yes, but how is this relevant?

>>8630487
it's cool, hope other kids won't bully him tho

>>8630814
In that instance, the parent is still in the wrong but ultimately the child is making the choice purely based on what they want. Though, even in this, it could be said that the child KNOWS what their parents want them to choose and they pick it out of making their parent happy. Which is sweet but still not right.

>>8630847
I'm saying it's silly to address this as a "LGBT" or "progressivism" problem when it really isn't, it's really a problem of parenting attitudes.

>>8630877
It's a bad parenting that stems from Holywood perversion of progressivism, but I agree it has little to do with LGBT.

>>8630909
I don't think that the guy was going for a spot in the oppresion olympics by doing this, Id put my money on him not wanting to do it but giving in honestly

>>8630487
I'm jealous of how good his son's skin is

I think he is a cool dad. Whoever did the kids costume is obviously a professional. Looks great!

I would've liked to do this when I was young, but instead of the costume, I would've got a beating to beat the gay out of me.

>>8630909
>It's a bad parenting that stems from Holywood perversion of progressivism
Except not really, because "progressivism" is only one of many things that can motivate people into forcing their kids to dress a certain way. I'm saying the fundamental problem is that many parents think they have a moral right to force the kids to dress however they (the parents) want.

>>8630625
this isnt even an argument

>>8630626
no it wasnt

>>8630975
There are people who jerk off to random body parts, like feet and earlobes and shit like that. What stops you for believing little kids should walk around completely covered in a burka to "protect" their "innocence"?

The argument is pretty simple. An innocent kid wearing a costume is not inherently sexual unless someone makes it sexual, and there are pervs who will make everything sexual, so you trying to "save" them will not help them. All you are doing is taking away their innocence by making them aware of the things YOU find sexual.

>>8631115
hotpants and fishnets are inherently sexual. Woman dont wear those clothes to be modest, those are "show off my sexy legs" clothing, theyre literally sexual clothes and thats their own purpose. They exist to create boners.

>>8630487
I'd fuck that kid in the ass so hard, no homo

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>>8630487
I think you need to check your privilege

>>8631115
This, by logic of >>8631320 nudists are sexual and thus anyone who even looks at them is a perv/pedo

>>8631320
theres the difference in the word inherently..

as adults we understand that the character is very sexual and that fishnets are pretty much only worn in a sexual setting.(hotpants are debatable)

but the clothes themselves aren't inherently sexual, its just the meaning we've ended up giving them because these particular cloths show a lot of skin (and had thier place in fetish wear etc.)

the argument people are making to say that this is fine is just saying that the kid just wants to dress as a character he likes on an occaision where everyone is doing the same (comiccon)

for him the outfit isnt to 'show off my sexy legs'. its just to look like harley quinn.and while they seem to have the same outcome the motivation is distinct, so they dont 'exist to create boners'.

theyre saying that to shelter the kid because he may be perceived as sexualized is taking away his innocence because he never considered that a possibility in the first place.(at least thats what I think theyre saying idk

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>>8631320
>thinks a kid has sexy legs

>>8631375
I think a kid can realize a character is sexy.

I wish my parents had let me dress up as female characters I'd liked for Halloween.

>>8631439
>a kid can realize a character is sexy
Dude wtf, no
Kids think characters are cool or pretty but you dont see 10 year olds calling fuckin disney princesses sexy

>>8631453
They don't say sexy but they know she's desirable.

>>8631320
if they were "inherently" sexual, then an innocent child would know that without you having to tell them. they are not "inherently" anything. they are bits of fabric and you give them their sexual meaning based on context, context that a child would not be aware of without you explaining it to them.
A child is not a woman, a child is wearing those clothes to look like a character from a movie, not to be "immodest" or "show off my sexy legs" or be "literally sexual" or to "create boners". An innocent child does not understand any of that WITHOUT YOU TELLING THEM.
You have to be trying really hard to be this obtuse.

>>8630526
>I think he is cool for letting his kid express himself the way he wants to rather making him feel bad about himself.
>>8630520
>Girls do it all the time
>don't give a shit.
>>8630601
>I wish I had that sort of supportive family
> I think its cool
>>8630954
>I think he is a cool dad
>>8630551
>I want to fuck his dad.

These are reasonable responses and fairly sensible.

>>8630909
>It's a bad parenting that stems from Hollywood perversion of progressivism

I may not agree on your claim that the true sentiment was "Dueling Progressives", but parents like this do exist. However, I believe that if you have a child and you admire their ability to take risks that adults wouldn't be keen to, you understand that when they're young they will bounce back from things more easily. It's why you let your kids play rough, get dirty and take risks that as an adult you've grown increasingly wary over.

Hollywoods perverse nature...that's the most disturbing part about this picture. Obviously his child isn't in the acting business and raising your child in Hollywood has it's own set of risks ***pedophiles*** widespread in the entertainment industry at large.

>>8631458
youre trying really hard to ramble on about a lot of nothing. It doesnt matter what kids think or want, theyre kids. Dumbest humans on the planet. Literal fucking retards. They shouldnt be making decisions for themselves. Kids need structure or they make bad decisions, like dressing in a way that attracts pedophiles, not exactly the safest proposition.
Also to everyone else, your incessant attempts at claiming that Im somehow a pedo for pointing this out can go fuck yourselves, its not accurate and its not clever. Its like your ace in the hole, muh "ur just a pedo" card.
Meanwhile actual pedos are reading your argument and agreeing with you because they wanna look at more pictures just like that one.

>>8631712
>if we don't take the innocence of children to protect them then the pedos will take away their innocence!
same stupid argument as:
>if we don't give up all our freedoms for our own safety then the terrorists will win!

And I never once accused you of being a pedo. I just pointed out how obsessed you are with thinking like one, which is something you can't possibly deny at this point.

>>8630487
I dressed up as a girl for halloween in middle school. That's where the rabbit hole begins. I remember looking at this boy who was looking at me with wide eyes. I felt so proud to be a qt slut. going to the bathroom to retouch my makeup.

Now, I'm taking titty skittles and having sex with men..

dressing up as a girl for Halloween is like tranny training wheels.

that little boy is fucked.

>>8631789
there you go again with a fallicious comparison and then an insinuation that somehow the guy who doesnt want kids dressing up like sluts is the pedophile-like figure whereas someone like you defending this is somehow less creepy.

>>8631972
>tfw never got to be a girl for halloween

>>8632033
>there you go again with a fallicious comparison
I compared two examples of "cure is worse than the disease", and you saying they are "fallicious" (whatever that means) is not an argument.
Putting words or "insinuations" in my mouth, is also not an argument.

As I said before, you have to be trying really hard to be this obtuse.

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>>8630551
yep

>>8630487
Its not that he let his kid crossdress, its that he let his kid dress up as hot topic sailor moon.

>>8632335
you're thinking agp?

>>8632380
AGP isnt a real thing. Its a bullshit theory touted by morons. In the real world no actual professional believes that.

>>8632423
wish they did instead we have actual professionals in the real world refusing to diagnose you as trans if you have agp and not treating you

>>8630487
I THINK this question has been asked entirely too much, and the world would be a better place if you were physically removed from any and all internet sources for life, for the good of everyone gay, straight, cis or trans. Stop taking up board space.
Samefag or no.

>Halloween
C O M I C C O N

shes cute :3

>>8632101
it means its a false comparison. It means that regurgitation of nonsense is based on a logical fallacy.

>>8630529
/thread
Anyone who disagrees is a brain-washed drone bastard whose opinion is void.

>>8632556
It's not a false comparison. It's is not a regurgitation of nonsense and it is not based on a logical fallacy.

Ok, now it's your turn.
Or would you like to actually make an argument this time?

I literally don't care

>>8630529
I feel like this mindset you're showcasing here is why agp theory exists in the first place. It makes sense for women to become men because they're just upgrading themselves. But men have no reason to degrade in the reverse direction, because there's nothing inherently better about femininity. So their motivations must be sexual in nature. Classic misogyny and trans-misogyny at work

>>8632460
Ok, kiddo. You keep believing that. Im sure someone will take care of the big, bad, scientists and their scary data.

Wish I was allowed to dress up like that when I was a kid too

I'm okay with crossdressing, it's a costume, whatever. However, I'm put off by child being dressed as a very sexualized character in a sexualized costume.

>>8632974
I disagree with that viewpoint and think AGP theory should be applied to FTMs too.

>>8634560
AAP is a thing afaik

>Parents wouldn't let me dress as a girl for halloween as a kid

I am hecking triggered right now

>>8634565
What did you want to wear?

I melted when i saw that
Hopefully it was the kids idea
Itd be kinda weak if dad was like hey i want brownie points for dressing my boy in girls clothes

>>8631344
/pol/ stop you're being drunk again.

oh my god I wish my parents let me dress up like a girl for halloween. the closest I got was a male witch...

That poor kid.

It great that he's allowed to wear that costume but if he does turn out transgender he's going to have to fight that manly Liev Schreiber DNA

>>8634560
Yeah. That's sort of what I was trying to say but I don't think it came across right. The second, third, and forth sentences were supposed to have "/s" on them

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>>8630487
Good on them for both agreeing upon and being cool with it.

Besides, that kid pulled off that costume a lot better than most girls at my local convention.

>>8630487
Rule 34 please!

>>8634994
Life's a struggle for the young agp.

>>8630487
He's a kike filth, who cares what he does to his kike offsprings.

>>8630487
In high school, a kid dressed as a cheerleader for Halloween and everyone though it was great. This was a 6 years ago too. Only miserable people who are way overly political/sensitive will think this is a big deal.

>>8630487
Don't really care that the kid crossdressed.
But why did the dad let him crossdress as a character from Shittycide Squad?

Let your kid crossdress as a woman or something, not a literal walking pile of garbage. Poor kid.

>>8641228
It's the kind of movie the kid might have liked and picked a favorite character from to dress as.

>>8630487
I think it's weird that you care so much about one person's parenting style. It's not really any of your business if he's just "letting the kid harm himself".

>>8635845
Right, but his dad seems like a sweet guy. Hell probably be on blockers before puberty.

>>8641308
>I think it's weird that you care so much about one person's parenting style.
Do you care about kids being made to repress?

>>8630555
ok pedo

>>8641308
Im OP, I saw people talking about this and thought /LGBT/ mighthave an interesting perspective

Tried to be neutral as I could in the title but some assumed I was against it automatically,

maybe because I phased it as 'let'?

>>8630551
this was exactly what I said to myself after reading the OP

>>8630551
You're probably too old for him.