Does anyone else worry that they're just a fetishist and

>>8629529
I do get worried, but I remind myself that just having a fetish doesn't mean you can't also be trans. That a fetish can't cause gender dysphoria. That AGP is probably a repression mechanism.

Brace for a thread full of people trying to convince you that you're just a fetishist though.

>>8629529
I am a fetishist. I dont care anymore, Ill become a hon and off myself in few years anyway if Im still miserable like Im now.

>Life's mostly great
This gives me some hope

>>8629539
>Miserable
If you experience Gender Dysphoria you're trans.

>>8629529
Shhhh don't go around saying that, that's our dirty secret. Of course it's a fetish.

>>8629529
No.
The fact that you have that worry and are 5 years into transition means you are trans, but you are also paranoid.
You wouldnt have come this far if it was just a fetishist.
Especially since most people Ive seen that detransition do it within 2 or so years.
Besides, even if you where, who gives a shit? You are no less legitamate than any other transwoman no matter what the spergs and /pol/ trolls on this board try to tell you.

>>8629539
What sets off your fetishes? Just having a female body or even just wearing women's clothes?

>>8629529
I don't worry that im a fetishist but I do worry that I'll kill myself and people will use my death to advance political agendas. If I commit suicide I just want to be forgotten.

>>8631318
Commit suicide inside a hall of mirrors so no one finds you

>>8629529
Why would a "fetishist" regret it?

>>8634047
Maybe they have a cis male identity but can't tell because of the fetish

>>8634061
Cis identity is a meme.

>>8629529
Why would u want to cut your dick off? And spend hours everyday sticking a dildo in your hole which is essentially an open wound. You really wanna take out a hairball everyweek out of your fake vag. Eeeeeeew

>>8629545
Unambiguously define gender dysphoria.

>>8634098
>Something being difficult to define means it is not real
Brainlet tbqh

>>8634113
>can't define it
Wonder why not.

Spoilers: Because it's not real.

>>8634126
>Gender dysphoria involves a conflict between a person's physical or assigned gender and the gender with which he/she/they identify.
>In adolescents and adults gender dysphoria diagnosis involves a difference between one’s experienced/expressed gender and assigned gender, and significant distress or problems functioning. It lasts at least six months and is shown by at least two of the following:

>A marked incongruence between one’s experienced/expressed gender and primary and/or secondary sex characteristics
>A strong desire to be rid of one’s primary and/or secondary sex characteristics
>A strong desire for the primary and/or secondary sex characteristics of the other gender
>A strong desire to be of the other gender
>A strong desire to be treated as the other gender
>A strong conviction that one has the typical feelings and reactions of the other gender

Providing a definition is easy. Providing an unambiguous definition is not because psychology is hard and we lack empiric tools.

>>8634152
>marked
>strong
Wow, this makes >>8629545 such a helpful post for >>8629539!

She just needs to question how "marked" and "strong" her dysphoria is!

You could have cut the chase and said "gender dysphoria means gender dysphoria"!

>because psychology is hard
Rather, because psychology is not hard.

>>8634152
>>8634180
PS your definition is totally not arbitrary at all

>>8634180
>Incoherent flailing
OK

>>8634245
You're definition is nonsense and this reply shows you know it.

>>8634249
Nah it works fine.

>>8634255
What you say != reality.

>>8634266
Nah it is.

>>8634270
Stop shitposting.

>>8634280
Stop spreading misinformation and I'll stop correcting you my fampai.

>>8630222
AGP are not legitimate trans. They're an embarrassment to the trans movement and need to stop being mega pervs.

>>8634285
I've thoroughly debunked you. The only misinformation are your posts that you managed to write more than four words for.

>>8634291
>I've thoroughly debunked you
lmao

>>8629529
>5 years on HRT and booked with suporn. Life's mostly great now but whenever I actually think about getting srs I get aroused and it makes me worried that its just a fetish.
Whenever I think of getting SRS or passing as a woman I get the sense that it's right, that it's how I was meant to be, and I get pleasant feeling in the bottom of my stomach. But I never get aroused while thinking about myself as a woman, it just comes from my discomfort with having a penis and dragging that literal burden with me through life.

When I see myself 5, 10, 20 years in the future I see myself as a passing penis-less woman and nothing else.

>>8634080
Life is a meme.

That's what's kept me in this awful limbo for so many years. It's super late now, and I'm doomed to hon-dom, but I still can't get over it and just move on.

I'm Super AGP, derive little to no sexual pleasure/attraction from anything else, have literally zero interest in sex with women, and only attracted to men while thinking of myself as a woman.

The reasons I'd want to transition are far far far more than just sexual, but I can't help but masturbate for release to AGP shit and I fucking hate it.

I'm forever trapped in this hellish cycle of obsession over transition, closeted peversion, lack of desire for a sexual relationship with the opposite gender, and extreme heart-panging sigh-causing curl-into-a-ball-feel-creating jealousy whenever I see cis girls, followed by the regret in being this way, the guilt of feeling like an absolute sick pervert male, and the fear of making decisions I might regret over what is probably a sick fetish.

Life is super fucking hard.

>>8634336
>The reasons I'd want to transition are far far far more than just sexual
T R A N S
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S

Are you absolutely sure you're doomed to being a hon? I'm repressing for that reason but some people are just unrealistic about themselves. Plus.. some hons seem happy, you know?

>>8634338
>implying she wouldn't be trans even if there weren't other reasons

>>8634286
AGP is not a real thing.
Its a theory pushed by trolls and people wanting someone to be underneath them. No professional in real life believes this bullshit.

>>8634343
I've heard of people who transitioned without experiencing any dysphoria and they went on to be happy so, okay, do what makes you happy. I'm not sure they really fit into the same category though.

On the other hand here's why I might be wrong: most of them told me that living as women for a few years basically turned them into normie girls and that they're no longer really AGP so who knows.

>>8634336
You and I are in the same situation.
Hang in there.

>>8634346
The theory is bullshit but it is a fetish that a lot of trans people have for whatever reason, at least pre-transition.

>2017
>people still struggling to define gender dysphoria

It's a pathological disgust and unfamiliarity towards the gendered traits of oneself, social and physical, that is allieviated by those traits being changed to a different specific configuration. The feeling of dysphoria is comparable to when you lose a tooth and feel the gap with your tongue, and it feels all big and lumpy and distorted and 'wrong', combined with the disgust of hearing nails on a chalkboard. It's as simple as that.

>>8634656
The issue is some people think it can be specifically define and some people think it's inherently fuzzy.

>>8634361
>The theory is bullshit
>for whatever reason

>>8629529
No, because I'm not a weirdo HRT loser

>>8634090
Thanks for proving to the world how retarded you are.

>>8634766
For the reasons stated on this board a thousand times before.

>>8634006
Spoopy kek

>>8634080
off yourself while memeing pls

>>8629529
I sometimes wonder if i'm really lesbian. I fantasize about male fictionnal characters and feel invalid. (rarely and i'm ""attracted"" to maybe 4 at best, because they're scientists or something alike and i have a fetish for that and it's difficult to find any character like that in female version,even more as a dom, and even if they were real i wouldn't do anything with them or want to do anything/b) but I wouldn't take a dick in real life or feel comfortable enough to date a guy.
I'm so confused sometimes.

>>8629529
>5 years on HRT
>I get aroused

really?

>>8629529
I never really felt AGP. I just would prefer to be a boy so not worried.

>>8634090
>he fell for the /pol/ hairball meme

>>8634195
no shit retard
a lot of mental illnesses have arbitrary definitions. next you'll be telling us depression and anxiety aren't real either...

>>8639844 >>8634195
>arbitrary
they are actually defined by healthcare professionals with decades of experience in the particular area and refined through many iterations