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>>8603121
It's a life sentence.

>>8603121
Good job

>>8603121
I've considered it many times but if I think about it realistically then continuing to transition is still better than detransitioning, even though it's almost as hellish.
The only real escape is death, but I slightly hate myself so I don't mind suffering (as I irrationally feel like I deserve it anyway), as long as I also feel happy every now and then. So I just keep on living just so I can suffer and have fun.
A mostly negative experience is still more interesting than no experience at all, and I take pride in perservering through cycles of depression anyway.

>>8603121
Unfortunately, transition is the only thing that is proven to treat dysphoria. There's nothing else that works.

I tried it

>stop hormones
>start trying my best to sort out my mind in a way that will let me be cis
>start lifting, dressing male, short hair etc.
>doing ok for a few months
>gradually dysphoria comes back worse than ever to the point where i can't even do anything
>nope.jpg
>have to start HRT again

and that's how I wasted half a year and fucked up my HRT progress. Testosterone is the most difficult part, because it causes dysphoria to worsen.

It might be possible for some people, though.
https://thirdwaytrans.com/ is a blog by one such person who claims to have successfully detransed. it's definitely full of decent exploration of these issues, and it was very helpful to me while I was trying (though maybe a bit biased in favour of non-transition).

if you're going to try it's probably best to do it before you start transition, because otherwise you risk fucking up your progress and making things worse if it doesn't work out.

>>8603121
Transition regret is VERY real and VERY common, but it doesn't get talked about because it contradicts some weird narrative that's going on. Many go off hormones and return to their starting gender.

>>8603197
>and VERY common
[citation needed]

>>8603211
I have a friend who works at a doctor's clinic, one of the big ones with a bunch of specialists. One of them specialises in hormones and sees a lot of trans people. Detransitioning and transition-regret is very common among their patients.

Alternatively you could look into it yourself. I'm not trans and have no stake in it. Or you could just jump on the yass queen slay bandwagon and do irreparable damage to your body.

>>8603220
>ask for source
>a friend who works at a place told me
>g-google it yourself

wew

>>8603220
What triptard said >>8603250

>>8603250
Okay I guess it's incorrect and you should go ahead with the surgery :^)

>>8603289
that's the plan, yeah

>>8603289
There's plenty of reasons to think twice about SRS.

"some guy on 4chan's friend said..." is not one of them.

I'm happy with who i am :)

>>8603301
>>8603304
>>8603297
>>8603311
Hey Curehon.

[citation needed]

>>8603301
do you believe in a cure for homosexuality?

>>8603121
To escape from the Transylvanian dungeon of Transness you must navigate these labyrinth's three. Be warned they are filled with all manner of feminizing traps and enemies.

>>8603326
why do you think there should be research if its not a mental illness

>>8603342
do you think research should be done on how to make straight people gay?

Are you familiar with the concept of internalized homophobia?

Why do you feel like you'd be "trapping" yourself?

You admited in another thread that you wouldn't pasd if you transitioned? If you believe you'd pass, would you transition?

>>8603326
>your shitposts
>your

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>>8603220

>>8603361
ok so you're a transphobe and a homophobe to boot and don't transition for that reason. No sympathy at all

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>>8603361
>The suicide rates remain high
[citation needed]
>it doesn't make people happy
[citation needed]
>Even if people do pass, they're often not happy
[citation needed]
>and it doesn't "cure" the underlying dysphoria
[citation needed]

If you want to make anyone feel insecure at least make your bullshit believable.
0/10 desu.

>>8603390
>>8603382
>I don't need to cite shit

i honestly dont understand why you guys work yourselves up so much over these things, they arent actually that big of a deal in real life.

some people are idiots who will probably end up offing themselves like: >>8603393
and thats fine it doesnt impact me in any way. transgenders will most likely get more and more visibility and it'll come to a place where it's completely normal within like 20 years.

I had to come out and go through all the talks and insults but i completed my transition, im happy with who i am and with where i am, i dont regret this, i dont feel ashamed. im just being who i thought i was and i was 100% correct. i have no mental issues other than some mild anxiety from time to time when things pile up in life, like any other regular person. i have a girlfriend who loves me so so much, and i have parents who love me, and im working on my social life irl and im not really as scared or as radical about not letting people just live their lives and having to try and speculate on FOUR CHAN about blanchard theories and a bunch of boring debates that reach nowhere other than to support the hostility on this website towards trans people. yall are lame

>>8603399
>Don't trust bitterhons!
Why do you think nobody believes you?

Weird how there's so many people living happily after transitioning.
Surely, if it didn't help a bit we'd see large swathes of people who detransitioned advocating for an end to that kind of treatment.
But strangely no such thing is observed.
And you'd think that the medical community would notice unchanged rates of depression and suicide.

Also, a treatment that's been established for several decades now is not "an experimental palliative care method"

>>8603427
>>8603438
no one really supports you outside of 4chan

no one supports conversion therapy anymore, at least no one with a political voice

it became a joke because people are happy living the way they feel a calling for and you have no place in trying to take that away. if somehow miraculously theres a pill that changes who someone is so intrinsically and probably related to the brain in some way, i wouldnt take it, although im sure some would and thats fine but dont advocate it as though as it's actually important. its much easier to just continue to push as we have for trans people to just be more accepted socially, because thats the only problem we have.

>>8603427
>A lot of people support me, actually.
[citation needed]

>>8603456
There's actually quite a lot of support towards a cure for AGP/Trans/Dysphoria. Maybe not in the scientific community, because anyone who actually wants to research this stuff is defunded by extreme SJWs.

But overall support is quite high, actually!
I think it's reasonable to suggest that it'd be great to find a cure for AGP/Trans/Dysphoria rather than trap yourself. What would society rather, hmm? And I'm not even being transphobic here, I'm just countering your point. Hons are like freakshows, they'd much rather them not trap themselves.

>conversion therapy
I'm not advocating for conversion therapy, as it's proven to be ineffective. I'm advocating for actual research into the real causes for AGP/Trans/Dysphoria, and a real cure / treatment that isn't transitioning that has proven scientific benefits with high evidence studies.

I'm not trying to take away your life. If you want to be a hon, go on ahead! It should be an OPTIONAL choice for those that wish to not trap themselves. If it was forced, it'd be just as bad and I'd be rioting with you!

It is very important. You know all these "closeted" trannies that keep coming out because they're force to and end up killing themselves? The cure could save millions of lives over time. If you wish to have people continue killing themselves, you're anti-life and in all honesty the argument ends there.

Societal acceptance does nothing to help the underlying mental condition, just a reinforced hugbox. If you need people to constantly boost your ego to tell you who you are, then you aren't who you are.

>>8603461
>Miss "I don't need to cite shit" demanding citations again

>>8603399
>Trans suicide attempt rate is at 40% and stays very high post-transition, actually goes up above repressor rates post-SRS.
lol of course you're doing the /pol/ thing of completely misreading that study. amazing someone can write so many words and yet be so bad at reading.

>>8603484
I'm refuting your points because you have no evidence. You don't need citations when there is no evidence of your views not being complete BS.

Also
>Miss
You hons really like to misgender people but yet whine about being misgendered.

In that case, please call me "King", "God", or "Master".

>>8603489
>/pol/ thing
What the fuck does this have to do with /pol/?
I didn't misread the study, bitterhon. I've been cited many and they were all low evidence unproven BS anyway with sample sizes lower than 100, letalone 1000.

>>8603498
>bitterhon
please stop talking like a meme

>>8603476
>there's tons of support
>j-just not in the scientific community
>it's those evil SJW extremists, you just gotta believe me
>but everyone else supports me
>especially those people I don't bother listing
>also dismiss that research that points to the notion that they might simply have the brain of the opposite sex
>that's not real science
>it's just someone pushing their political agenda
>so we need more support for "research" that will support my fringe beliefs
>also societal acceptance does nothing
>it's common knowledge violence has no effect on mental health

>>8603476
>There's actually quite a lot of support towards a cure for AGP/Trans/Dysphoria.
>But overall support is quite high, actually!
[citation]
[needed]

>>8603489
This is why she never cites sources. She doesn't have any, just misread headlines she got off /pol/.

>>8603540
>I don't use /pol/.
>[/pol/] actually told me to transition before.

>>8603220
yeah well my dad works at nintendo and he says cis ppl r dumb so there

But realistically if you actually googled statistics on transition regret, you'd find it's not common. Maybe if you live in a third world shit hole where being trans means becoming a social outcast, but not in the civilized first world.

>>8603533
>>nicole
>Opinion Discarded
Why don't you like him?

>>8603399
>Trans suicide attempt rate is at 40%

How are you a frequent user of this board and you STILL don't understand that one Swedish study? If you wanted to throw out what little validity your posts may have, then you've just done it. Good job.

>>8603607
>/repgen/ invading shitposting troll hon
Pot, kettle.

>>8603607
Sorry bud, but that 40% statistic? It comes from that study. You don't know what study I'm talking about because you haven't actually researched this yourself, but the 40% statistic comes from that study, and that study doesn't prove anything about transition efficacy, and also says that nowadays trans people only kill themselves about as often as cis people.

Sorry bub. Hate to be the one to pull back the curtains on reality for ya.

>>8603570
Where did you get your 40% suicide rate alternative fact from?

>>8603645
This is an ancient study anon, the hardest one to find, for it is seen only by the eyes of the uninformed. You'll never be able to find it without spending years slowly deactivating the logical parts of your brain while browsing /pol/. When you notice your abilities to cherry-pick and detach from reality that'll mean you're getting close, but still it's only the first step in citing this study. For you see anon, this study only exists within ones mind.
>>8603666
>See this post.
See my post, you're making shit up and you know it, which is why you won't ever cite anything.

>I'm not your search engine
What is the burden of proof.

>>8603666
>attempt rate
So now you know it was an attempt rate and just conveniently forgot the exact right detail to make a better lie?

>40% is inbetween 30% and 50%, and easier to say - averaged it's around 40% across all the studies.
AKA "I read it on /pol/ but now I'll just pretend it's from lots of studies"

>Piss off.
Calm down dear. No need to be so touchy.

>>8603677
>for it is seen only by the eyes of the /pol/ and people who want to believe their lies.
FTFY

>>8603686
A thing that applies to anyone who disagrees with Curehon and never to herself.

>>8603707
You see I can't believe you that you genuinely are just this opposed to giving sources(especially sources that you are already aware or) because everyone loves to have sources. Everyone loves to be able to whip out some shit like "look science says I'm right lolololol", but you don't, because you don't actually have any sources. I could try and make fun of you for how much effort you put into trying to talk your way out of presenting evidence(and not even doing a good job of talking your way out of it), I could try and make fun of you for the fact that you've lost every argument you've ever been in on this board, but to be honest I know you're just some dumb teenager(hopefully lmao) who learned to argue from 4chan so it's not all that surprising you don't know how to make a convincing argument, and I also know you're probably not really all that interested in winning arguments because the only person you're really here to convince not to transition is yourself. So whatever, have a nice day, keep wasting hours of your life spamming(and yes, you're spamming) this board with your bullshit. People will learn to ignore you eventually and you'll keep sitting around in your bedroom hating yourself and waiting for all of your problems in life to just magically go away.

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>>8603121
>become a normal happy cis person

>>8603666
No bruh studies say that no trans person has ever killed themselves never ever. I won't link them, but you can just google them, and if the results you find are different then you're just not looking hard enough and are facetiously cherry picking fake data. But trust me bro, no one who's trans has ever commit suicide and it's also a proven fact that hrt makes people 100% super duper happier even if they're cis.

Just trust me bro I'm legit science agrees

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>>8603758
This is bait.

>>8603764
I'm just using the same argument format in order to like get on her level. You know, like when you talk to babies but instead of talking you just mumble and make stupid sounds so they understand, it's the same thing.

>>8603666
>multiple sources that clearly state
>I'm not going to cite them
Every Curehon post summarized in two sentences.

>>8603390
One of them is a trap, isn't it?

>>8604016
No idea. Just posted that because they were both cute.

>>8604027
Based.

>>8603197
We don't doubt that it's real, and I'd expect trendies to detrans at quite often, but it shouldn't be made out to be a bigger issue than it is.
The idea of detransing myself is thoroughly repulsive btw.

>>8603607
Actually /repgen/ is getting sick of this poster too.

>>8604193
We are.
t. repressor

>>8603121
>been trans [...] become a cis person
oh, sweetie...
how could I tell you...
how could I put it...
where could I even start...

get a brain?

>>8603197
>the (((traditional narrative)))

>>8603328
Reminds me of that tranny oregon trail comic

>>8606907
>tranny oregon
Wot?

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>>8603121
Saved this from an old thread. (>>8605657)
There's hope, you just have to believe!