>tfw mtf and tend to relate better to the bi or straight ftms on this board
>tfw have the same problems interacting with or relating with other mtfs from here that I do with cis women, they all smell my masculinity and immediately treat me differently
>tfw the trolls were wrong and the mtfs here are real girls, but they were right about me, cause im a mans man manly man
>>8575119
I feel the same way desu, I'm hoping progressing further along my transition will "cure" me or atleast let me be content with my own personality.
You are not a man, op. You're a woman. You might still look like a male and your behavior might still be tainted with male socialization patterns, but these two issues can be helped. You're a girl inside and that is what matters.
>>8575133
Thats the thing its not a pattern its an essence. My essence is masculine and its totally off. I'm a clumsy, effeminate mess in real life but I still have a masculine essence and masculine instincts, poor empathy, poor innate social sense. I can try all I want but the best i can get is stapling a womans personality onto my male essence
>>8575119
Are you lesbian or straight? I'm a straight ftm and wondering why you'd relate to us.
>>8575119
I kinda feel the same sometimes...
I guess I'll just be myself and so long as everyone treats me as a girl I can be happy?
>>8575119
You're not the only one, my two best friends are mtf and I've been that I make them feel at ease, which is weird because all I do with them is play co-op videogames, I don't provide much in terms of conversation
t. straight ftm
>>8575848
*I've been told that
>>8575119
You are as much as a female as all the MTF on this earth.
>>8575140
Sounds like literal autism.
>>8575893
Maybe. I dont think so though. If it is its pretty mild. Do you hate me for being a disgusting autistic?
>>8575794
I'm lesbian. It's just easier to have a conversation with you. When I try with mtfs its just like feminine cis girls, they are cold and distant and constantly judging, its very uncomfortable and I dont understand how to build a positive relationship with them except outside of mutual benefits
>>8577153
Actually im bi*
>>8577148
also btw I have a good sense for social subtlety and tact, mostly in avoiding offending people though, so idk
it just seems like im a typical clueless man